Gary,
I found your reference that they are wet.

So, It is very like the NS coils with a little galvanic ax to stir things up. But so far all you are seeing is galvanic action, i think.

The thing you are getting that is exactly opposite what I get is that your voltage goes up after you read the amperage.

Mine always goes down. And it takes a long while to recover. I am very careful now to take any amperage readings in the end.

jeanna

Jeanna     

I am pretty sure that  my first   try at  building  a  responded in the same way . 
Reading   current   shunts  the current  though  the meter ..............
The earth battery is  producing  a certian    power ..... you  connect the  meter   and  the meter itself  creates a new current path .   
The  battery  is now   working with a different  set of  variables .......and it takes a few minutes  for everything to balance  again .   
Anyway  .....that is my understanding   of  it .......  I may be wrong .....   I can't  explain  what re balances ..... or how it  does it . .....

gary

Gary,

It is hard to see something from someone elses numbers so please forgive me,

I am trying to see what is more than reading across the 5 and 6 on the NS coil primary and having a reading of .5vdc. and a few mAmps or uAmps.

5 and 6 don't touch each other either (just like your 2 coils) and yet there is this consistent voltage. I think it must be galvanic caused by the metals coming off the wires across their length.

BUT the big thing that happens is that with a pulse or something mysterious because the charge/or magnetism causing a reversed charge is moving up one side of the core and back down as it follows each wire pair, the galvanic reaction might be reversing itself. Electrolysis

In your case the charge or magnetism ( etc) is moving out the circumference and back in toward the center.

 I am still skeptical about claiming more than galvanic, but I think there is something magnetic. I just can't say what or how fast, for that matter.

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I have been thinking lately that this may be a very low frequency rather than a very fast one. Sort of opposite what Tesla went for.

I was reading online looking for various frequencies and what fell into which category etc. I saw that an earthquake is in the range of 1Hz. I guess Tesla's eq machine made one a little faster, but still really slow.

It makes me think that the resonant frequency of the earth might be that slow. It can't be much lower than 1. so what if we are tapping into the earth freq since we are putting these things into the earth, maybe we can't tap into anything higher, and maybe we should be looking low and slow.

   

jeanna

I was testing my earth probes (copper and Ink) for voltage and amps. nothing new but what i did try was taking a small magnet and i tried to attach it the copper probe. it just keep falling no magnetic attraction to the copper none at all. so I was wondering if this may be part of the stubblefield mystery. the copper has no magnetic field but the iron wire and soft core did. as a note i did have a led shorted between the + and - for 24 hours or so. then i tried attaching the magnet to the copper.

Also i did figure out that an aluminum plate will show lots more Ac when checked. and used in place of the Zink.

Pardon

Yes ......I beleive that  magnetic fields  react  a little  bit  differently  to  metals that  a magnet  sticks to .   
I am   looking for ways that   the small  difference  can be made to  do some work for us .   

gary

Gary,

It is hard to see something from someone elses numbers so please forgive me,

I am trying to see what is more than reading across the 5 and 6 on the NS coil primary and having a reading of .5vdc. and a few mAmps or uAmps.

5 and 6 don't touch each other either (just like your 2 coils) and yet there is this consistent voltage. I think it must be galvanic caused by the metals coming off the wires across their length.

BUT the big thing that happens is that with a pulse or something mysterious because the charge/or magnetism causing a reversed charge is moving up one side of the core and back down as it follows each wire pair, the galvanic reaction might be reversing itself. Electrolysis

In your case the charge or magnetism ( etc) is moving out the circumference and back in toward the center.

 I am still skeptical about claiming more than galvanic, but I think there is something magnetic. I just can't say what or how fast, for that matter.

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I have been thinking lately that this may be a very low frequency rather than a very fast one. Sort of opposite what Tesla went for.

I was reading online looking for various frequencies and what fell into which category etc. I saw that an earthquake is in the range of 1Hz. I guess Tesla's eq machine made one a little faster, but still really slow.

It makes me think that the resonant frequency of the earth might be that slow. It can't be much lower than 1. so what if we are tapping into the earth freq since we are putting these things into the earth, maybe we can't tap into anything higher, and maybe we should be looking low and slow.

  

jeanna

I  agree with your description of   something  flowing   within the  stubblfield  battery ....... 
I  have some theorys  on  it ........



The  strange readings I  and the  power  transfering  from a winding in one coil to  a different winding in another coil  is  a magnetic related thing .
I wondered if it could be  some kind of short .....so I lifted  up   the  top  coil ........ the  effect  died  quickly  ...... within  an inch  of  the bottom  coil ........but it  did  go on  after  I had lifted it off the other coil ........ there  was no possability  it  being  a short of some kind . 

At this point ...........all I can say is that there is something  strange  going on  with this   particular  coil  configuation .
It should be fun trying to figure it out .   


gary

Stubblefield (if I read it correctly) had an antenna.If he had an antenna and a ground this thing to my according to what I have found would work

.A resistive load that would make sense,  

Andy

I have wondered a lot about this, Andy.

Thanks for bringing it up.

Please tell me where you would add a resistive load.

Would you wait and use it with the "secondary" most have yet to add? or would you just put it between the terminals.

I did an evening of tests with a coil and a resistor figuring the amperage from ohms law with a 150ohm resistor.

It was all predictable according to that law. there were no surprises. It behaved just like a battery run circuit of small voltage.

It was an experiment about the water solution and an electrolyte adding it in increments.

In the end the only thing I could say for sure was that the coil works better when it is NOT submerged, just moist.



Perhaps it is because I don't have a coil that produces enough amperage to even try it. I have tried it. I have a cd motor that works on a half dead AA battery. but it won't work on any of my coils, so I can't really tell.

I have a speaker/transducer/ thing from a modem it makes a scratching sound with very small charge. It agrees with what the meter says.

I would like to hear your suggestion about the antenna. where it is and what it is up to.

jeanna

Quote from: 1tesla01 on April 25, 2008, 04:26:45 AM

The larger diameter would be better.more mass more free electrons.Andy

Andy

yes  I remember ........but ........does it work the same   with aether  strawberrys ?

gary

So, I thought Tesla explained that it is because its function comes about as the square of the distance from the center. That is a lot more than just the distance from the center.

It is making me think I should try one that has many layers and not as much length. If the distance from the center applies to the NS coil. which it may not, but worth a try.

jeanna

Quote from: resonanceman on April 25, 2008, 04:33:55 AM

I wondered if it could be  some kind of short .....so I lifted  up   the  top  coil ........ the  effect  died  quickly  ...... within  an inch  of  the bottom  coil ........but it  did  go on  after  I had lifted it off the other coil ........ there  was no possability  it  being  a short of some kind . 

At this point ...........all I can say is that there is something  strange  going on  with this   particular  coil  configuation .
It should be fun trying to figure it out .   

I assume you meant to say it did return when you returned the coils to close together?

Yes, this is very cool.

lots o fun coming up.

jeanna

Jeanna

Yes it  did come  back ....... I could move the  little coil  up and down   a little and watch the  readings  change

It was hard to  get the original  readings  back .......it turns out  that it has to be  lined  up  very  well . 

To me that supports  the idea  that it might  be  something like a  vortex   


gary