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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #240 on: May 09, 2008, 01:34:36 AM »
Paul,

Nice photos.  Please post a schematic.

Thank you.
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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #241 on: May 09, 2008, 02:26:22 AM »
REPOSTED HERE WITH PERMISSION OF FATBIRD

I thought this important enough to aquire permission to cross post this here. Originally posted by Fatbird in "Steven Mark's patent something-or-other" thread.

Summary of Important Points From SM's Videos & Letters To Mannix:

1.   Compass will spin up when turned on.
2.   Never tune too closely to the exact frequencies
3.   Make a Kill Switch with Over Voltage & Heat Sensors.
4.   The control units are so very important to control the frequencies.
5.   The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.
6.   First frequency, then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.
7.   You could describe the useable current output of my coil as DC but with some hash in it.
8.   There are 3 Control Coils (all the way around) each of the 3 Collector.  Start them 1 at a time.
9.   The ?TPU? units heat up to a potentially dangerous temperature after a considerable period of time
10. The Collector is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other.  Other
      control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together.

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There is a wealth of knowledge in almost everyone of my letters.  You seem to be the only one who has the ability to absorb and digest the information the way it is intended.  After rereading my letters to you I became aware that in fact I have already sent you enough information to duplicate my power units.  I have certainly given you more to go on then I had when developing it.


Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other. But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils. There need to be three of them all the way around. Start them up one at a time each. First frequency then second harmonic component into the second, then the third. When you eventually strike the cord look out. you will know what has happened at that point. In the mean time you can measure a slight output even if you do not strike the exact cord.


In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.  The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the Collector Coil.

On to another point. There is an inertia. With the right combination of frequencies, you can actually create a revolving field with inertial! That is what I have referred to as , The inertia effect.

There is a genuine gyroscopic effect when the units are on. Everybody has noticed that when held and in operation, the units have a definite vibration and have a gyroscopic effect..  They seam to resist being moved through the air. When placed on a smooth surface it is very pronounced. Some of you should think about that.


Electron tube circuits work much more precisely then solid state units. Especially when first experimenting. You will be able to get some excitation with solid state units but we had to design with tubes first and then try to duplicate the functioning system with solid state circuits later. It was difficult. Solid state circuits are very dirty and imprecise.

Solid state devices are too slow to find the three major intersecting you know whats...

About the collector:   It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. Three is important. You can do many things with three coils. You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc. You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if need be.

The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils. Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together. Through the different control wire and coil wire arrangements you can keep complete control of the unit most of the time.

However, you must have an emergency KILL switch. A way of cutting off all the control frequencies simultaneity. This kill switch must be, manual and also connected through a heat sensor buried within the collector coil. it should automatically stop the function of the unit before it self destructs on it's own.

This is important for obvious reasons. Also the kill switch should also be connected to cut off whenever it measures over voltage. If that should ever happen, you would never have enough time to hit the kill switch before the inevitable explosion occurred. You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose. Picture a hose with water in it. If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving. You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water along as well. And you could do both to control the movement of the water more precisely. You can think of the movement of water as the movement of electrons through the collector coils.

I hope the things I share with you give you ideas about how my unit works. As you know, I am a great believer in understanding, not copying.
Sincerely,
SM.

As you know, Large amounts of FEEDBACK is essential to frequency and control when using SS devices for everything in the electronics world, HOWEVER, it is the enemy of generators!  If anyone ever gets one of these things operating, have them measure the electro magnetic and hash radio around the unit....it will blow your mind. so, what does that do to control devices in close proximity?


Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires. You can see them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering. They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires. They were run in multiple segments. each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillation and control. The control frequencies are important in order to make power from the collector.

By starting the oscillation you cause the current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation. It is electron flow of a high order creating a large magnetic field. Or vice versa.

My point to this story is.... WE spent months and months trying in every conceivable way to duplicate a unit. The only thing that kept us going night and day was the fact that we already had one. We knew it was possible to have a working device.. It was the only thing that kept us going on the project. And even then we said I GIVE UP so many times I cant count.

REMEMBER, all of that noise and hash in your solid state amplifier is in the output signal ! Now tell me? What do you think is happening inside the extremely sensitive torrid generator when you use solid state devices to attempt to create the required precise control frequencies to make catalyst and produce power???


BUT, i guarantee you that their SS control devices are all sitting right beside the collector... aren't they? They will probably never start the coil and get to catalyst. I am not saying it is impossible, but it will Damn difficult for these guys to get more then a big bang once in a while. And just like me, that big bang will excite them enough to continue for a while longer. Maybe one of them will read back and see where I said the SS control device must be placed inside the collector coil. then they will explode with, MY GOD, maybe that is the reason why...... and off they will go. in the right direction at least.


I hope things are calmed in your life when you receive this.  I fully understand your feelings of frustration. To work hard to see nothing of a positive is sometimes shattering to one's self.  I know very well... I had a great deal of help and it took us years just to develop a SS control system that would work! And this is after we knew how to make generators!!!

Some of the units in the demo videos did in fact have one or two 9V batteries to provide a separate controllable DC source for the solid state control circuit.

We eventually learned how to make the power converters start with only the flick of a permanent magnet across the coils.  You may find it humorous that we had to find a way to make the things work without any batteries purely because UEC needed us to honestly answer the question:  Does it have any batteries inside of it?  They wanted us to be able to truthfully answer NO, to anyone who asked that question.  You would be surprised how difficult it can be to explained to a lay person how impossible it is to convert a 9V battery into the juice needed to light a single 100 watt 120 volt light bulb, let alone make toast with an electric toaster!!!


The output of the unit is high voltage DC with a frequency component of around 5k Hz.  Think of the output as dc (pulsed) 5 KHz with lots of Hash in it.

The unit had been in steady operation for exactly two hours and fourteen minutes (2hours and 14 min).  The load of 2 amperes amperes at 137-volts did not change through the test period. I can personally state that I do not know of any battery or storage device of this size or weight with this capability.

The time was 12:47 when the inventor removed the large toroid device from operation. It had been in constant operation for three hours and eight minutes (3-hours and 8 minutes).

The ?TPU? units apparently heat up to a potentially dangerous level after a considerable period of time, and must be shut off at that point. This makes some people suspicious of a battery that is being depleted and which must be recharged after a few minutes. However, after having cooled down, the inventor has always managed to start the unit up again and light the lamps again for the same amount of time as before, until the unit heats up again, without removing the device from the observers sight to be ?recharged?.

This can apparently be done any number of times, such as the cumulative ?ON? time can be extended to at least 30 or 40 minutes. This is several times longer then the theoretical limit of any kind of concealed battery pack that I, the battery experts or electrical engineers have yet been able to discover. I have personally seen this demonstration at least fifty times.

By the way, we found that ordinary multi strand lamp cable worked very well for use as a collector.  Thick gage wire can dissipate the heat very well but there are two problems.  First the heavy gage wire isn't as efficient as the multi strand copper and also there is a safety advantage in using the multi strand lamp cable.

If the unit goes too far on frequency it may begin to convert too much current and try to dissipate way too much voltage.  The multi strand wire will just burn up and open the circuit whereas the heavy gage wire will continue to conduct until there will be the equivalent of a lightning strike of the unit.  That of course ends the operation of the unit but can also prove to be rather dramatic and also somewhat dangerous if you are in close proximity to the power unit.


The coils get hot. THis problem has not been resolved. It apparently due to the windings moving.  The destructive heating caused by the eddy currents become the problem we face when we make a really large powerful coil. Now you understand more about the heating problem and why using a fan does not work.  The time was 11:20 AM when the inventor removed the small toroid unit from operation because of heat build up. I examined the small toroid unit and it was indeed quite hot to the touch.

Strangely, using the left hand rule for magnetism, this toroid is an aberration.  Because when one thinks of the current beginning the flow through a load, the magnetic flux this winding creates is ADDITIVE to the pulsing magnetic flux created by the coils.

When it is unloaded the voltage climbs substantially and I do not mean a spike. it lasts for several seconds and is a good third higher. Steven calls it the turbine effect..


YES NORBERT, WE DID TRY THEM SOUTH OF THE EQUATER,   THEY WORK IN REVERSE. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY?


Outside Diameter:   6"
Inside Diameter:   5"
Height:   1 - 3/4"
Weight:   12 ounces
Output Power:   250 Watts
Output Voltage:   160 Volts
Voltage Frequency:   5000 Hz.
Duration of Performance: 30 Minutes


Univ Prof = The first unit was roughly shaped like a large donut. It measured approximately 4.72? across with an inside diameter hole of 3? making a core width approximately 1? thick.  The unit was exactly 2? tall, resembling a toroid. I did not measure the weight however the unit was extremely light when held in the hand.

Univ Prof = Mr. Mark connected the unit directly to a 100 watt 120 volt incandescent light bulb and caused the unit to operate. It did in fact illuminate the incandescent bulb quite brightly. I measured the
voltage at 137 volts D.C. exactly, (ObS). See note*

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Univ Prof = The second unit was again toroid shaped with a large hole in the center. It was approximately 15? at the outside and 13? inside with a core thickness of approximately 1?.  The unit was 4? tall. The unit was not measured in weight but could be easily lifted with one hand, (ObS).

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Univ Prof = I asked the inventor if this was the limit of the unit and he replied, ?no way.? He provided a quick blow fuse rated at 50 amperes.

Univ Prof = With two large electrical clamps and wiring, he shorted the fuse across the output terminals of the toroid and destroyed the fuse, (ObS). There was only a slight flickering of the ten incandescent bulbs as observed although there was a tremendous discharge of sparks from the output terminals of the toroid unit.

Univ Prof = The inventor then gave me the fuse for examination. It was warm to the touch and smelled acrid, (ObS). It was a large 240 volt AC air conditioner disconnect fuse and designed for severe service duty, (OsS).

Univ Prof = The inventor?s claim that the large toroid output terminals were at lethal potential was no longer in question. The time was 11:20 AM when the inventor removed the small toroid unit from operation because of heat build up. I examined the small toroid unit and it was indeed quite hot to the touch.

I had only this to go on when I started and little by little I figured out how to make many several thousands of kicks per second. . .  AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IT ISN"T DIFICULT AT ALL.  No, I take that statement back.  Actually it is difficult if you refuse to start thinking.  Some of the information I have given to you is golden.  I have certainly given you enough information to move in the right direction.  I will continue to give you more information but I am so disappointed with the complete lack of ability I see in most everyone so far.

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12 Ounce Open Unit in the 38 Min Film.

OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 1 inch.
Output = 186V @ 5 Amps.  7 Amps with a Heat Sink.

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Small 1 Pounder, Open Coil.  Took Magnet from his pocket.

OD = 4 inches.
Height = 1 3/4 inches.
Output = 100V @ 1 Amp.  7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
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Small Open Coil, 1 1/2  Pounder:

OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 3/4 inches.
Output = 120V @ 5 Amps.  7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
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Large 17" Open Coil.

OD = 17 inches.
Height = 4 inches.
Thickness =
Output = 830V @ 10 Amps.

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I intend to make this info available in pdf format for download on my website! (valuable stuff here, Good Job Fatbird!)

Paul Andrulis

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #242 on: May 09, 2008, 06:18:35 AM »
Why don't you use the origional document i have made?
There is a lot more info available.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2383.0;attach=9211

M.

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #243 on: May 09, 2008, 06:42:10 AM »
Hello all,

@Feynman

Im building variable oscillators because every TPU has his specifical frequency. The difference is maybe a few Hertz but its a difference.

Im totally confused. The reason is that I have soooo much questions for myself. Just a few here, if allowed:

1. The height of a 6" TPU is 1 3/4" = 44mm. Why has a deflection coil the same height?? I mean the core with the windings.
2. Why is a primary coil of a TPU wound in layers???? like a deflection coil??? Oooooo......you didnt know it??? But you all had a discussion about various Tesla patents!! Didnt you see it??

The stuff about the layers is NOT from me. I will mention the man who told me this later, if he agrees. I dont want the people would think that Im soooo bright. Im NOT!!

You all remember the story about the TV!!

With my yesterdays post I didnt want to say not to use tubes!! I wanted to say that with  additional coils like in the video, or like with the outer deflection coils I got really big signals. This signals nice and clear, with almost no hash. And the kicks - perfect!! Very fast on and off signals.

In one way connected I have sine waves and in another way connected I have kicks. It seems that I have to wright everything down because I forgot how to connect the coils. Im a little bit fast because its soooo interesting to play with coils.

The big problem is that we dont know what kind of metal as the core SM used. Im talking about the 2 additional coils in the big TPU or the coil sitting on top of the 6" TPU. Its NOT Aluminium, thats for sure.

Otto

PS: maybe somebody knows something about the Aluminium - Manganese alloy???






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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #244 on: May 09, 2008, 09:22:01 AM »
@otto,
Hello. Why do you think your oscillator must be made with tubes?
It is possible to design a Variable frequency oscillator with Sine output and high voltage using transistors.
The reason I am asking is that I can understand FETS and transistors but not valves.

@All,
What do you understand by Magnetic shadow? I have searched everywhere and can not find anything.

Regards

AM

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #245 on: May 09, 2008, 10:07:19 AM »
Hello all,

@AM

I have to be honest: I promised a nice man here in the forum to build my tube oscillators.....

35 years ago I learned everything about tubes. I was really good. Tube radios, tube TVs. In the times of tubes I learned in school how to repair tube TVs and in the same time had a lot of TVs to repair!! And I earned a good money as a very joung guy.Then came the time with transistors, ICs.......and as it happens, I forgot everything about tubes....

How I see the development of a TPU:

- SM was a TV repair man, he knew about the TV story and wanted to know what happened when the TV got out of frequencies.
- I think he was playing around with a deflection coil
- as a TV had tubes, SM used them also in his work
- the voltage on tubes plates is say 300V more or less
- with such signals he was pulsing his TPU and got it work
- later he had to use SS because tubes are a little big, ha,ha.
- with SS devices, to say MOSFETs, he had nice signals but at a low voltage level and so he had to think about how to rise the voltage of the signals - to get biiiig signals, like with tubes
- the solution is well seen: additional coil(s) sitting in the center of the TPU

In this way he got an easier acceleration of the particles, he didnt had to use a soooo high frequency to accelerate the tornado and at an unknown (?) frequency mix the tornado accelerates for itself so....
He got nice clean signals
and he got biiiig signals

This all I see with my setup.
I only need to rise a little the voltage from my power supply and then......I can again repair my equipment.

I think its enough crap from me this week.

Otto

PS: AM, maybe you know something about the AlMn alloy???


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« Reply #246 on: May 09, 2008, 10:51:51 AM »
I have had another "Thunk" situation, and people REALLY ought to read Steve's words in the pdf CAREFULLY, but especially with an OPEN MIND, not cluttered with presuppositions. (Like I originally did.)

I was ALMOST correct before. Now I am cautious. :o

The device is ALMOST solely Tesla type tech. I think Tesla himself would have achieved this if he would have retained his lab and funding. It is based quite heavily upon what he proposed.

Steve himself stated EXACTLY how to wind the setup...... This ought to sound familiar.

"Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other. But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils. There need to be three of them all the way around." <-SM

"About the collector:   It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. Three is important. You can do many things with three coils. You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc" <-SM

"The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils. Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together. Through the different control wire and coil wire arrangements you can keep complete control of the unit most of the time." <-SM (otto AND tao were each half right. I was quarter right.)

"About the collector: .....................You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if need be."


   BOTH the controls and the collectors are pulsed. You will remember that SM stated that we should imagine a field rotating in TWO directions at once. (Rotating around the coil, with spin. IE rotation on two axis. This is what happens with field collapse in the coils, the second rotation,  or spin, starts and is accentuated with the pulsed collectors.) Now consider a basketball. If you shoot the ball with your hand placed improperly to the side and back, it imparts a two axis spin, rotating backwards and to the side at the same time. Magnetic fields out of alignment try to align with each other. That is why a compass works.

The pulsed controls set up the initial field and start rotation. The pulsed collectors induce secondary spin and help control the effect. Rotation lifts the hose, spin squeezes it.

High voltage short duration pulses in the collector provide for alot of "squeeze"..... (Center toroid is a pulsed step up resonance transformer) Cap discharge through High voltage mosfets into both collectors and at least one, preferably two or more collectors.

Man, my brain is on fire, and it is LATE here, I hope I can get some sleep. I mentally feel like a rabbit being chased by a bobcat!

Paul Andrulis


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« Reply #248 on: May 09, 2008, 04:37:48 PM »
Hello all,

@AM

thanks for the links.

AlMn alloy has special magnetical properties, like the alloy in the patent. I found only 1 site with a short description.

Otto

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Re: The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)
« Reply #249 on: May 09, 2008, 04:43:00 PM »
ahura:   

Triode Tubes are just like N-channel MOSFETs.   aka gate, source,drain.   They are voltage amplifiers.


http://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/electron/elect27.htm#PowTri
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Basics_04_Triodes.html
http://www.aikenamps.com/Equations.htm


I have several PDF books from the 1950s which are excellent as well, I can post them if you decide to make somethign with tubes.  ;)

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« Reply #250 on: May 09, 2008, 04:43:31 PM »
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« Reply #251 on: May 09, 2008, 04:50:59 PM »
    @Pauldude


     I don't know if you pickedup on the information supplied by Spherics.  (I believe this was SM giving his disciples a little lecture ::)   What was most important in his postings were that if you pulse a piece of copper wire that is run in parallel (physically and electrically) with a piece of iron wire that there will be an acceleration of the magnetic field in the direction you want.  The kick pulse when applied to this parallel or bifilar arrangement causes the copper to create a magnetic field change first.  While this is happening the kick pulse is causing the iron wire to rearrange it's atomic lattice and then the resultant magnetic field response to the kick.  The reaction of the two different metals to the same spike (or spark) causes a magnetic field shift at great speed and in a predictable direction.  When this bifilar arrangement is wound into a solenoid coil and a collector piece of copper is placed within it's interior this collector winding experiences this magnetic field shift.
    In later designs sm came to the realizaton that the iron wire could be replaced by a copper winding that is pulsed at a lagging frequency to get the same effect as the timed iron/copper response to a single pulse.  This makes the tpu a dragless dynamo.  The backemf of the copper collector winding not dragging down the prime mover because we moved the magnetic field across the copper electrically not physically.

   @Mannix

    This would be a good time to deny or support a speculation on the dynamics of the tpu and Stevens work.

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« Reply #252 on: May 10, 2008, 02:49:52 AM »
@Sparks

Ion wire has a differnt conductivy than copper. Different conductivity means different speed of propogation. DIfferent sped of propogation means lagging or leading pulse at same frequency. ANother form of phasing.

Man, I think I am running a fever. I feel like I am burning up.

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« Reply #253 on: May 10, 2008, 04:25:26 AM »
    SM also used this timing effect by pulsing metal in the base of his premier design.  I'm not sure what to call it but it is the one that puts out 800watts.
In this unit he uses two frequencies as one can obviously deduce from the two identical oscillator setups he has in the middle.  The two white transformers are air core torroidal transformers that are used to charge the two identical caps.  When the caps get to a certain voltage they are discharged into the kick windings through a semiconductor avalanche circuit .  They are being fed by a feedback winding sensing the magnetic field shift induced by the respective kick windings.  One for the leading and one for the lagging kick. 
   Spherics comes on board in 2008 and tells us that the kick windings should be face postitoned and no iron, but this is not what we see in 98. We see steel in the base of the tpu's being pulsed to stretch out the solenoidal magnetic shift towards some 1/2 ass secondary coil.  Master of Magnetics LOL.  He didn't have the first clue as to how a dragless dynamo should be built and if he was spherics posting still doesnt.  What he did know is that the way to get free energy is to use a kick to act as a catalyst in producing a magnetic field disruption that will yield thousands of times more translatory energy than what is needed to produce the kick.  This guy tried to package one of Tesla's designs that GK is working on right now and pawn it off to some chumps.  Total asshole then and total asshole now.

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« Reply #254 on: May 10, 2008, 03:10:58 PM »
@Chef

     I see energy as change and antienergy as inertia.  And matter as the combination of both.  So when we change the inertial field around a form of matter potential energy or the potential for change stored in the matter is released.  Pure energy displaces the aetheric inertia and is able to manifest through spacetime and excite the release of potential energy from matter that it encounters.

    If you believe that spinning the aether is the only way to release, use, and store potential energy from matter I guess it's your right. 

@all

      I believe anybody with experience with transformers, alternators, dc generators,  or electric motors will see the benefit of effecting a magnetic field change by use of an energy pulse.  The antiquated way of changing the magnetic field around a conductor by physical movement of the conductor through a compressed magnetic field or the use of an iron laminated core to direct a magnetic field compression by resetting magnetic domains of the metal should be a museum piece soon.  The sooner the better.
    In your experiments and designs please remember that the kick that SM credited energy conversion to is the scource of free energy.  The kick can elicit mass conversion to energy without loosing any of it's ability to do it over and over and over.  The spin energy of the Earth itself is the capacitor in this energy circuit.  It is the scource of back emf.  Back electromotive force.  It restores the electrical magnetic resonance of the mass disrupted by the kick.  So simple even and idiot like me can understand it. ;D
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