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Author Topic: Shake-em-up flashlight generator  (Read 25486 times)

Offline Formula1

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Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« on: March 07, 2008, 09:16:44 PM »
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Yes or no?

Offline nightlife

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 11:51:33 PM »
That is pretty much the same concept I had in another thread I started. One difference I see is that you are not utilizing the back EMF wich is actually a lot of power you are throwing away.

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 12:09:44 AM »
That is pretty much the same concept I had in another thread I started. One difference I see is that you are not utilizing the back EMF wich is actually a lot of power you are throwing away.

I know exactly what you mean!
It could definitly be harnessed... I didn't even think of that...

I was going to make it (The images are pictures I took eith my digicam)
-But somethings stopping me... so I'm posting it up so that other people can make it for me...

hell, I'd give up the patent to get this thing made...
-But I'd rather use the patent for publicity for other things...
--But for some reason I get a bad feeling when I say that....

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2008, 12:29:40 AM »
I am getting some unbelievable results and I can't wait to get it finished.

 Think about what you have and go back and watch the wind belt video posted in "nightlifes wacked out ideas". I will be adding to that thread later tonight and I think you will be very impressed with what I add to it.

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2008, 07:03:31 AM »
Formula1 I just bought one of those lights. It is a Super Power forever flash light. It says to shake for one minute and you get up to thirty minutes of light.

 I shook it for one minute and I tested the leads to the LED, it was 3.25volts at .18 amps. I shook it again for two minutes and I got the same results.

 This one has two coils, two rectifiers, I think that?s what they are and it has a capacitor. It also has a rather large neo magnet that is about 1X2 inches. The cylinder is about 1.5X8 inches and the coils are about 3.5 inches long and just fit in to the cylinder. The coils are in the middle with one lead from each going to one side on the board and the other leads going to the other side.

 The wind belt is said to produce 4.5 volts with a much smaller magnet as well as much smaller coils. With the wind belt, only part of the magnet goes inside the coil but the magnet is much more vibrant.

 It would take 2048 of these flashlight set ups to produce 130volts at 10amps. I do not know how many amps the wind belt puts out at 4.5 volts and I cant seem to find any specs on it. I will try and contact someone from that company to see what I can find out. I will also see if I can buy one and have them ship it to me. It may be impossible do to them still waiting on their patent to clear but I will still try.

 But based on what I have seen, the wind belt is much more efficient then the flashlight and I believe it has to do with it's vibrancy. I will try and do some testing with the flashlight to see if I can get better results by splitting the coils and vibrating the magnet in between them. I am thinking that do to the larger magnets and the larger coils, I should get much better results then the wind belt claims it does.
 One thing that I am not sure of is if the circuitry is going to handle any more then it may be rated for or if it will just max out at what it is rated for and I may not get any better results with using their circuitry.

 I will keep you posted with what I find.
 

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 05:04:40 PM »
Hm....... no other thoughts?

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 08:38:53 PM »
I recently also bought such a shake-it-up  flashlight in a 1 Euro Store where they did have this as a special offer
and some were already broken and I got these even cheaper and I dissassembled one and was amazed,
that it had 2 button cells batteries in them
and the supposed to be magnet was no magnet, but just a lightly magnetized iron rod.
So somehow this flashlight worked differently by just using the battery voltage
and the iron rod in the coil somehow only modulated the button cell voltage at the coil,
so the AC was rectified and then fed into a cap...

Did not disassemble it further, but I found it strange, that it had these 2 button cell
batteries in them...

So it probably was a cheap ripp-off, cause it still used these button batteries#
when I thought it would contain just a magnet and a coil...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 06:50:56 AM »
I recently also bought such a shake-it-up  flashlight in a 1 Euro Store where they did have this as a special offer
and some were already broken and I got these even cheaper and I dissassembled one and was amazed,
that it had 2 button cells batteries in them
and the supposed to be magnet was no magnet, but just a lightly magnetized iron rod.
So somehow this flashlight worked differently by just using the battery voltage
and the iron rod in the coil somehow only modulated the button cell voltage at the coil,
so the AC was rectified and then fed into a cap...

Did not disassemble it further, but I found it strange, that it had these 2 button cell
batteries in them...

So it probably was a cheap ripp-off, cause it still used these button batteries#
when I thought it would contain just a magnet and a coil...

Regards, Stefan.

Sounds a bit weird... Does it still work an infinite amount?
-Or less overtime?

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 05:51:32 AM »
I thought I would post you picture here so we can focus on it rather then have it get lost in all my idiotic ideas.

 Have you thought about what to use for the parts such as the pivoting action on the generator? Would it be like a freewheeling hub on a bike?

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 06:40:47 AM »
I thought I would post you picture here so we can focus on it rather then have it get lost in all my idiotic ideas.

 Have you thought about what to use for the parts such as the pivoting action on the generator? Would it be like a freewheeling hub on a bike?

To tell you the truth......

Wind up generators are the only thing I considered to be the pivoting point...
-The only generator that would work with rotation that I knew while allowing enough freedom in movement so that the magnet at the bottom could be attracted by each magnet

As for the switches... Not sure what I would use....
-I suppose I could rig up a really ghetto one using common switches but  I don't even think that would work

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2008, 06:52:57 AM »
 Are there wind up generators that wind up in both directions?

 As far as switches, I like the light activated ones because they dont create a drag on the motion of the motor.

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 07:40:13 AM »
So it probably was a cheap ripp-off, cause it still used these button batteries#
when I thought it would contain just a magnet and a coil...

  No.. your not crazy Stefan..lol

  Instead of shake-lights...Be-ware of Fake-lights..

Yup there's some rip-o f f shake flashlights out there !.... I got a shake flash light and it was totally fake.
(1) The coil was connected to nothing...the magnet was no magnet.. just a cylinder piece of metal...one resister, no diodes...
It was nothing more than two round flat batteries ran through a switch to the l.e.d. ....lol

(2) Another light I got that was fake.. Had a hand trigger type lever..which spun a motor inside for charging.
Like this one: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=241145&image=48837432&images=48837432,48837438,83574396&formats=0,0,0&format=0
and Again.. contained two batteries, ,a resister, a switch , and two l.e.d.'s... no diodes.
Although, This one did actually have the coil connected to the led's which would light up when you gave it a crank.
but of course, contained no rechargeable batteries. nor wired up to even charge a battery...
Actually works good after you add a re-chargeable battery and wire it up.  lol

So both of those flashlights contained two round 3Volt batteries.
Equaling 6volts. which will power the l.e.d. plenty long enough until you loose the flash light.
and the average joe is the none the wiser. and still thinks the cranking and shaking is charging up his flashlight.

Look at your shake light.. I bet it has two round 3v NON rechargeable batteries. They All do!  L-O-L


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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 07:42:17 AM »
Are there wind up generators that wind up in both directions?

 As far as switches, I like the light activated ones because they dont create a drag on the motion of the motor.

Yep both directions

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2008, 08:09:50 AM »
huhh, mine did not have any battery's. It did however have a capacitor.

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Re: Shake-em-up flashlight generator
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2008, 03:29:05 PM »
So it probably was a cheap ripp-off, cause it still used these button batteries#
when I thought it would contain just a magnet and a coil...

  No.. your not crazy Stefan..lol

  Instead of shake-lights...Be-ware of Fake-lights..

Yup there's some rip-o f f shake flashlights out there !.... I got a shake flash light and it was totally fake.
(1) The coil was connected to nothing...the magnet was no magnet.. just a cylinder piece of metal...one resister, no diodes...
It was nothing more than two round flat batteries ran through a switch to the l.e.d. ....lol

(2) Another light I got that was fake.. Had a hand trigger type lever..which spun a motor inside for charging.
Like this one: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=241145&image=48837432&images=48837432,48837438,83574396&formats=0,0,0&format=0
and Again.. contained two batteries, ,a resister, a switch , and two l.e.d.'s... no diodes.
Although, This one did actually have the coil connected to the led's which would light up when you gave it a crank.
but of course, contained no rechargeable batteries. nor wired up to even charge a battery...
Actually works good after you add a re-chargeable battery and wire it up.  lol

So both of those flashlights contained two round 3Volt batteries.
Equaling 6volts. which will power the l.e.d. plenty long enough until you loose the flash light.
and the average joe is the none the wiser. and still thinks the cranking and shaking is charging up his flashlight.

Look at your shake light.. I bet it has two round 3v NON rechargeable batteries. They All do!  L-O-L



Not mine....