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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 517448 times)

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #570 on: July 27, 2008, 07:44:25 AM »
@All,

I really think we should start a new thread as XBoxHacker suggested, My Capacitor70 replication!

HV

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #571 on: July 28, 2008, 06:46:05 PM »
SO yeah i know :)

it leaves u with these questions

1) obviously theinverter isnt hooked up in video 1, but engine tried to run

2) obviously the charger isnt hooked up in video 2 but the inverter is and engine runs

3) how can the coil be the magic thing if it has 4 connnections and in video 1 there are only 3 wires going to it

4) ROTFLMAO if anyone can answer these question go right ahead

and oh yeah if you can have it hooked up so different from vid 1 to vid 2 and it still works, why the hell is it so hard to duplicate some thing that you can obviously just throw together any way and it runs.

I wish it worked but im sorry they way he is STATING it right now is false beyond a shadow of doubt imo

Park

You  seem to be assuming that  both  the videos  were  shot  using  all the same parts .

As I see it   many  different setups  were tried .           
As I see it   the setup that S1r  settled on was the cheapest  and  simplest ( to  make )  but hard to understand .


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capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #572 on: July 28, 2008, 06:55:53 PM »
 ??? Do what works, you are not doing work as previously suggesting me how things works and helped me to make this now we have some designs and problem one by one we are solving it and going towards water car  :-\, Lets experiment and put results and observations together to make our own design....

Park34

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #573 on: July 28, 2008, 07:27:58 PM »
Park

You  seem to be assuming that  both  the videos  were  shot  using  all the same parts .

As I see it   many  different setups  were tried .           
As I see it   the setup that S1r  settled on was the cheapest  and  simplest ( to  make )  but hard to understand .


gary

I agree on that behalf, but watching both videos it would be assumed they would be hooked up remotely the same, and as stated how is the coil he says is in the tin cup work if there is only three wires, this thread i assumed is for the replication of s1r circuit, well its hard to replicate when the information HE provided is incorrect

I vote for a new thread also :) :)

P.S i was just tryingt o show a few things i noticed betweent eh two, so new people trying to do his coil can see the facts

xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #574 on: July 28, 2008, 08:11:58 PM »
I second the motion for the new thread!!!!  ;D

But Cap70 told me that he wanted to keep all the info in one place...ie. this thread. So if anyone should start a new one it should be him!! His work has moved beyond S1r replication (i think).

NOW...back on topic... I should be getting my HV caps soon.  I will be testing my theory that more voltage into primary to get a better/bigger spark on the secondary. I will be testing with pressure also. I will also make a small piston and chamber to see results of piston movement.

@Cap70:
Why is it that you say common ground is a issue? What i did is take some solid wire and made a loop in it and put that over the threads and put the plug in the engine, the other end of the wire went right to the neg side of the LV cap.

Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #575 on: July 28, 2008, 09:34:02 PM »
As a side note, we should be able to run with extremely lean air fuel mixtures and save a ton of gas at least with the ignition circuit.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #576 on: July 28, 2008, 10:57:02 PM »
Capacitor70, have you heated the head and cylinder on your engine to 180F-200F before trying to start your engine on water?  If so did it improve the results?

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #577 on: July 29, 2008, 02:06:20 AM »
Hi all,

Why are you loosing time with S1r? He has been nothing but a lost of time, staling and not helping.
We are getting results here on this thread. Why flood this thread with s1r true or false coil?
He is not helping and we are getting allot of help here.
Focus people.

So anyway, has anyone tried the new cap70 proposed coil? What were the results?

Newsflash:
I got myself an old Briggs and Stratton 3hp engine to mess up. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs_XF5IWQY

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #578 on: July 29, 2008, 02:24:00 AM »
@XBox,

Whats the voltage of the new caps you ordered ?

HV

xbox hacker

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Re: My Capacitor70 replication!
« Reply #579 on: July 29, 2008, 02:54:30 AM »
IMPORTANT UPDATE!!!!:

Here are some info on the pressure and firing issues.....

I hooked up a Spark Trak Tester to the secondary of my coil. With no pressure it worked ok... ie. i got a visable spark on the testers gap. But when i added a little pressure it was not sparking!! So i added more pressure.. still no sparks..... The i adjusted the gap on the primary side to make it bigger....THE SECONDARY SIDE FIRED!!!! Soo...i thought, ok make the gap smaller and see what happens. The spark on the secondary went out! I was moving the primary gap while it was being fired and the results is...Their is a DIRECT correlation between the 2 gaps for it to work under pressure!!!!!

 If i put a standard plug on the secondary, and adjust the primary gap while it is arching, the secondary fires all the time no matter where the primary gap was. But for pressurized chamber tests, the gaps must "dialed-in". I have 3 coils that i made. It was the same for all 3!

coil 1: 40 turns on the secondary and 10 primary (heavy duty transformer wire form a microwave for both)
coil 2: 38 turns on the secondary and 8 primary (heavy duty transformer wire form a microwave for primary and what looks like 28ga for secondary)
coil 3: 20 turns on the secondary and 10 primary (heavy duty transformer wire form a microwave for both)

@happyvalley808:
30kV @ 500pF "Door Knob style"
« Last Edit: July 29, 2008, 03:20:15 AM by xbox hacker »

xbox hacker

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Re: My Capacitor70 replication!
« Reply #580 on: July 29, 2008, 02:58:32 AM »
Hi all,

Why are you loosing time with S1r? He has been nothing but a lost of time, staling and not helping.
We are getting results here on this thread. Why flood this thread with s1r true or false coil?
He is not helping and we are getting allot of help here.
Focus people.

So anyway, has anyone tried the new cap70 proposed coil? What were the results?

Newsflash:
I got myself an old Briggs and Stratton 3hp engine to mess up. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs_XF5IWQY
I agree...please lets stay on topic (even if the topic does not apply anymore  ;D)

Also, you might want to use a socket on a drill to start your motor....its going to kill your arm...LOL  ;) I tried the Bifilar coil design it didnt work. here is a quot form him....
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bifillar coil not works ! ! !, It creates opposite force on the LV side and on spark plug this prevents spark
« Last Edit: July 29, 2008, 03:20:38 AM by xbox hacker »

capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #581 on: July 29, 2008, 05:41:52 AM »
Why is it that you say common ground is a issue? anyone tried the new cap70 proposed coil? What were the results?
I hooked up a Spark Trak Tester to the secondary of my coil. With no pressure it worked ok... ie. i got a visable spark on the testers gap. But when i added a little pressure it was not sparking!! So i added more pressure.. still no sparks..... The i adjusted the gap on the primary side to make it bigger....THE SECONDARY SIDE FIRED!!!! Soo

Coil works under pressure If you adjust spark gap. I also tested this and it really works under pressure with proper gap.

As a side note, we should be able to run with extremely lean air fuel mixtures and save a ton of gas at least with the ignition circuit.
yes, you can run engine on 5 to 10% fuel and water, those who are not getting results, start with gasoline RPM of engine changes with plasma. Then put water at gasoline intake and give gasoline vapors (Be careful keep very very less quantity of gasoline back fire may ignite it or use bubbler) or HHO at air intake, this will give you time to tune the engine.

have you heated the head and cylinder on your engine to 180F-200F before trying to start your engine on water?  If so did it improve the results?
No, At very first time I did this but due to dripping of water on the cylinder it cooled, But engine is working in cool state also. To confirm that engine is not running gasoline present in carburetor, preheating is not done in any further test.



Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #582 on: July 29, 2008, 12:33:34 PM »
So to recap, under pressure (in the engine) the gap needs to be "tuned" for this system to work and yo must use trial and error to get it right.  Very good find xbox and cap70!  Moving along.  The leaning of the fuel mixture is a great start to running on water, we can slowly introduce water to get the engine running faster.

Park34

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #583 on: July 29, 2008, 06:37:00 PM »
X-Box

Is it possible for you to post a current circuit setup, so I can go to the electrnic store today and try to replicate tonight?? it would be so much appreciated, It appears I am becoming confused as to where the current circuit stands

thanks
much

capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #584 on: July 29, 2008, 07:11:56 PM »
Is it possible for you to post a current circuit setup, so I can go to the electrnic store today and try to replicate tonight?? it would be so much appreciated, It appears I am becoming confused as to where the current circuit stands

I think, I should make pdf file of important information.

Here are two working circuits.
1. Using diodes.
2. Using coil under testing. (Not properly tested on engine, It works)
Coil 8 turns primary (can be transformer wire) and 24 Turns secondary, use good insulation wire for secondary (don't go for transformer wire as shown in picture) use wire for secondary shown in green color.