@EM

4549raymond said he tried it with no success ... A friend and I recently built Roy Meyers accumulator but we could not get it to work

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3403.345

He's still around so maybe send him a PM ....

tak

hummmm

zink not much mention of that material at all

lol   anybody know what the resonant freq for zink is?

what might happin if you set it into resosnance

i have not played with zink at all

however if you know anything about zink you would know there is free engery there all the time in the form of electricty

hummmmm


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i have done 0 reserch on zink perhaps the time is now!!

thanks guys,

I just played around with some iron wire and magnets and copper wire, and digital voltmeter, and I can see a small voltage (0.5 V) when I touch things with my hand.  It's definitely galvanic action (chemical), and different metals make a difference.   

So, I'm thinking this is simply a galvanic action type of a device, even though he says in his patent that it's not motional or chemical, but I think it's chemical all right, but not in the sense of a lead acid battery like what Meyers was probably thinking.  Dissimilar metals with different electro-negativities will produce a voltage at their junction, and he is using iron and zinc, and what do they use zinc for?   to prevent rusting through galvanic action. 

It would have been nice if it was some sort of generator based on the earth magnetic field, etc..   

EM

Weird man... Something possesed me to try that the other night a small 2 inch by 2 inch square of copper and a zinc skrew gave me like .7 v.  and started climing i wonder what the resistance of it is and if theres any current ..... would sure make that whole Egyptian septer thing a little easier to stomach.  Imagining all the pictures i've seen im my life and reference in stories throughout historyof some thing holding an object similar to a wand with both hands and a gem in it..........

@ Grumpy
 
I found this in another frourm from peter lindman .. this guy filled in a few gaps for me.

The most important thing to understand in all of this is that all of these phenomena follow ELECTROMAGNETIC INDUCTION LAWS. Currents are induced in relationship to the strength of the magnetic field and voltages are induced based on the rate-of-change of that flux. In standard transformer operations, voltages in the output winding (secondary) cannot exceed the voltage in the input winding (primary) times the turns ratio between the primary and the secondary.

The appearance of the very short duration, very high voltage transient, when the current powering an inductor on DC is shut OFF, does not follow these Laws, especially on CLOSE OBSERVATION. John Bedini has spent 30 years studying this situation and has articulated most accurately the conditions to maximize the production of this voltage spike. I refer to this situation as the energy of "the inductive collapse", since that distinguishes it from other varieties of CEMFs. The voltage producing phenomena produces a different QUALITY of electricity, according to the "Method of Conversion" described by Tesla. In fact, charging and discharging an inductor is the FIRST STEP in Tesla's "Method of Conversion" and the first step in the process of producing PURE Radiant Energy.

According to Tesla, the "fast transient phenomena" is a Longitudinal Wave, a time compressed zone of electrostatic charge or pure voltage, traveling ahead of the electron current. It appears BEFORE the current starts moving and is separate and distinct from it..... This answers how something could beat the electrons there .

This view was also very helpful

Dollard used large vacuum triodes for his Magnifying Transmitter, and glass enclosed hydrogen spark arresters for the other BSRF demonstrations.

But let's start at the beginning. What was Tesla trying to do? He was trying to produce a simple DC square-wave pulse train. But he didn't have ANY electronic control devices. No 555 timer chips. No transistors. No vacuum tubes. He only had coils, capacitors, mechanical contacters, and spark gaps.

So, what does Tesla's longitudinal electrostatic wave-front look like? It looks like a DC square-wave pulse train where the pulse repetition rate is one million impulses per second, the duty-cycle is 10% On and 90% OFF, and the voltage in each impulse is 50,000 volts DC or more. This is what Tesla wants the circuit to do. This is what he wants to create by the discharge of his capacitor stage in the circuit.

So, if the spark gap is his "circuit controller" then he only wants a "single crack" each time the capacitor discharges. Just a single, unidirectional impulse of electrostatic charge to proceed forward before the circuit shuts off again. Then, the capacitor can charge up again for the 900 nanoseconds the spark gap is quiet and then discharge all of the stored energy again in 100 nanoseconds. Then repeat indefinitely.

****NOTE WELL****It creates a "staccato of electrostatic bursts." NOTE WELL*** Don't make this mysterious, because it is not. It is no more difficult to understand than the output of a 555 timer chip. Its just that we are talking about very high voltage DC, and very high pulse repetition rates. What is difficult is finding the circuit components that allow you to create these conditions without self-destructing!

In my Tesla's Radiant Energy DVD I go through all of Tesla's patents and discuss the various methods he used. They included spark gaps quenched by magnets, spark gaps quenched by blasts of hot air, spark gaps in insulating oil, spark gaps across rotating contacters. All of these methods work to one degree or another.

In the 1920's, as vacuum tubes started becoming available, John Bedini and I are convinced that Tesla went to Lee DeForest and had him build the first experimental Thyratrons. This is a family of circuit controlling devices specifically designed to conduct a unidirectional impulse, only when triggered, and then automatically shut off when the voltage drops to ZERO. This is most easily seen today in the function of the Thyrister, the simplest of which is the SCR. The problem with SCRs today is that they are not designed to shut OFF fast enough for the purposes of these circuits.

This seemed to be pretty relevant
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@wattsup

The KDFFT info is very welcome here. Thanks. We live in a small community with a community well. BAD rust problems but not filterable until you agitate the water. I'll be contacting them.

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As far as the brain surgeon analogy - it is correct. I should have limited my post to something like 'If you don't know or believe or aren't sure then prove/disprove it to yourself'.

Unfortunately I was still ticked from putting the supposed tumor back so the patient could be revived then pointing the real problem out to the brain surgeons. They still don't believe me but the patient (communications system) is back to normal there.

I meant no disrespect to any individual or their work. My experiments in 'ringing the bell' with perpendicular induction follow current physics but I have never seen this in physics or electronics books. The method is being used in read/write/erase heads and sensors. I hope to apply it to power conversion.

BEP

@BEP (sorry if off topic)

With over 25 years experience in water treatment I can give you some guidelines to identify the iron type in your well since there are three major types, ferric, colloidal and bacterial iron.

Basically if you draw your water in a good sized clear bottle and if the water comes out clear, then just leave the bottle somewhere for 3-4 days. Eventually the water will change color and do one of the following.

Ferric Iron - Iron falls to the bottom of the bottle as a fine power.
Colloidal Iron - Iron stays in solution as an orange color and does not settle.
Bacterial Iron - Iron settles to the bottom but is clumped together in filaments.

All these iron types require different ways of treatment.

If you ever get a complete water analysis done, send me the results along with the water flow rate required and I can give you an idea on treatment. Whatever you do, if the water has manganese, children in their formative years should not take showers since this is a heavy metal that when vaporized in the shower, children breath in and it goes directly to the brain. Long term effects can be learning disabilities and conditions related to tremor type physical effects.

...This is a family of circuit controlling devices specifically designed to conduct a unidirectional impulse, only when triggered, and then automatically shut off when the voltage drops to ZERO. This is most easily seen today in the function of the Thyrister, the simplest of which is the SCR. The problem with SCRs today is that they are not designed to shut OFF fast enough for the purposes of these circuits.

So, would any non-SCR Thyristor do the job, or are none of today's Thyristors able to shut OFF fast enough for the purposes of these circuits?