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Localjoe

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2007, 08:52:48 AM »
Hello fellow reverse engineers.

I have been following this forum, watching the videos, and pondering how the TPU works.  I think it is an authentic freedom energy device.

I consider myself very much a novice in electronics, but maybe my conjectures could shed some new light on the "guess what answer I am thinking of" game we are all trying to play here with SM.  Please, pardon any major electronics dumb statements I make that reveal my inexperience in this field.  I hope my thoughts are not too disorganized and hard to follow, also.

I would like to start by commenting about the "rotating magnetic field" mystery.  I have been thinking a lot about that.  What I think is happening is SM has set up sets of inductive coils that are oriented in two, possibly three different directions.  On his small device there is the collector coil, which is wrapped around the circumference of the main circle.  I think he has wrapped the collector coil around the circumference several times, but since the wire strands are packed in with no kind of wrapping orientation (the strands are not wrapped side by side along a core or hollow tube), the magnetic flux lines look like they would be for a single strand. However, he has augmented the collector coil with other vertical coils, which seem to be wrapped around metal cores (and on which he placed the magnets in one video).  These windings could be extensions of the collector coil and connected in series with it and each other.  The input coils are oriented in such a way that their flux lines are 90 degrees to the output coil and vertical coils.  Again, I think the collector coil is somehow wired in series with the vertical coils.  Other sets of coils, which I don't see in any of the pictures could be oriented as if the windings were wrapping around imaginary wheel spokes. 

I also think this device is harnessing and augmenting the radiant energy surges that come from very quick, high voltage pulses.  I remember Bedini or Tesla or Bearden saying that the more resistance across the voltage spike, the more electrons that piles up on the negative side of the circuit being excited.  The trick is to let the electrons pile up and then switch them into the circuit without destroying the dipole .  The inductive coils seem to be perfect for this.  The voltage spike hits the input coil, the high inductive reactance resists electron flow and then as the magnetic field builds and collapses, the electrons move.  I think he has all of the coils attached to capacitors to create resonant tank circuits.  Also, I think he might have a diode in series with the capacitors of the tank circuits so that the current can only flow in one direction (maybe not, though).  No current is ever allowed to flow when the pulse hits the coil.  The kick hits a back-emf wall when it occurs, pulls in the radiant energy current surge, and then lets the current flow in the input coil when the induced magnetic field is building and decaying.  With the current flowing in the input coil, its magnetic flux induces a current and flux in the collector coil.  Using the flux created in the collector coil is one of the secrets, I think.

I also think he is using a small battery in all the devices to run the pulse control circuitry.  I imagine there are a few 555 ic's that are driving some kind of fast, high voltage mosfet driver to make 1 to 4 sets of very fast, short on-time pulses, which are harmonics of each other.  I would suggest doing pulse ratios that are in the Fibonacci series or each pulse being the previous pulse times phi.  However, the pulses may be tuned to a chord, like a major chord - root, fifth, octave, tenth (just a thought).  He has written about striking the right chord, correct?  I also think he has a solid state diode/cap circuit to step up the voltage from the battery for the pulses.  I remember reading about how to do this using diodes, caps, and pulses - it is basic stuff, which I don't know how to do yet.

When the fast, high voltage kick hits the first input coil and inducing current, its flux lines build and cut through the collector coil, causing current to be induced in the collector coil.  It also induces current in the vertically oriented coils that are adjacent to the first input coil.  I imagine that these are wired in series with the collector coil. The magnetic flux has just spun 90 degrees and moved over from input coil 1 to vertical collector coil 1.  I also imagine that the adjacent vertical coil is wrapped in such a way that it induces a current (and thus magnetic flux)  in the second input coil.  So when the now faster (1.618: 1 faster?) kicks hit the second coil, there is already current moving and flux building.  The second input coil is also attached to a resonant tank circuit which is tuned to have its resonant peak at the frequency of the pulses. I think the collector coil and its vertical coils have caps in series, also.  They form part of a LC resonant tank circuit but also store the voltage to power any attached load.  It think the collector coil with the vertical coils is tuned to have its resonance at the lowest fundamental frequency, and the input coils are harmonics of that - possibly odd order harmonics, Fibonacci series, phi, major chord, or empirically tuned by watching the behavior on a scope.

 When the kicks on coil 2 pull in the radiant energy current surge, that induces current and flux in the collector coil and the next adjacent vertical coil, which is wrapped in such a way that it induces current and flux in the next input coil (3).  This continues around the circle with the magnetic field cork screwing around the circumference of the main collector coil circle.  When the magnetic surge makes it round the circuit, it acts as positive feedback for the first input coil.  I also think this cork-screwing and spinning of the magnetic fields pulls in more radiant energy, which causes the current to keep flowing in the same direction.   If the pulses and resonance were optimized, the tpu would quickly pull in too much voltage and cause catastrophic arcs through the wire insulation or capacitor insulation.  This is why SM tunes the circuit off frequency slightly.  You can also see he has put fuses on the big tpu device.

I do not think the earth's magnetic resonance is critical to the operating of the tpu.  It is a radiant energy device pulling its energy from the vacuum.  I think you can pick different sets of frequencies.  In his first small device, maybe SM thought the earth's vibrating magnetic field played a role, but the later devices vibrated much faster.  By setting up his device to resonate at 7.3 Hz, maybe there was a significant braking effect from the earth's flux that happened when he turned the device upside down.  The magnet on the small device probably just triggered a magnetic switch that turned on the device.  He has said that the magnets are not critical to the operation of the device, correct?  On the larger device where he turns it on by placing two magnets, I think that he purposely underwound those two coils so that they would not produce enough flux to keep the positive feedback building.  The magnets were used to augment the flux of those two coils and allow the turbine effect to build. 

Also, I think that high ohm leakage resistors are placed in parallel with each capacitor in the various tank circuits.  On the large tpu it looks like he has resistors across the pair of vertically oriented caps.  These dissipate the voltage on the caps when the device is turned off as a safety measure.  They also serve to bleed some of the current and create some extra ac "hash" on the dc current, which causes additional resonance in the tank circuits.  It also causes the vibration of the device, which also contributes to the flux of adjacent coils inducing more voltage and current much like a guitar pickup picks up the vibration of a metal string.  Maybe all of the coil wire should be ferrous? Has SM said anything about what kind of metal the wire is made of?  This vibration and the current drawn from the device when it is powering a load are what cause the device to heat up.  I imagine having a bank of several units wired in parallel to abate overheating issues.

On the big tpu device the inductive coils in the center might be there because he needed a certain amount of induction for his vertical collector coils, but he did not need all of the coil to be close to the input coils creating the positive magnetic feedback.  It may have been a way of maximizing the LC tank resonance but reducing some of the positive magnetic feedback. 

I think the gyroscopic effect comes from the cork-screwing magnetic field that is constantly circling around the circumference of the device.  This also seems to match his statements about the tpu acting as a turbine or an accelerometer.

Please, let me know what you think, everyone (including you, SM).  I have to study a lot more before I can draw up a possible circuit to test.

@dfro
 After reading a bit here in what i have been missing in the tpu threads i find it interesting that you're the only poster who backed up my theory for using the phi increment and the Fibonacci seq.  My theory leads me to believe that the phi ratio is the golden "interval"  that allows your kicks to add together creatively and the chord pulse train chosen will create a high velocity repetitive cycle.. When the right harmonics of a chord are played at the golden interval from each other they seem to add to each other and become ever smaller in size yet greater in speed. This is the vortex theory behind phi spirals and what some see as the makings of life . Crazy where that dam ratio leads ya. Why do some power chords make your amp feed back more than normal when the distortion is turned on a little .........?
                                                                                       

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2007, 02:35:54 PM »
dfro,

A nice "summary" of some of the theories put forth so far over the last year and a half. Nothing really new here, sorry.

There are some problems.

- No induction occurs to the collector at 90?.
- Electron flow begins before the magnetic field builds.
- Diodes in a tank effectively kill the resonance effect.
- Synchronizing can not be done with 555 timers. Also precisely tuning each pulse width would be difficult as well.
- Flux cutting through the collector will not induce current in the collector. The orientation is out.
- Driving a resonant tank at harmonics above its resonant frequency will kill the resonant effect. The frequencies must be below the tank's resonant frequency.
- What do you mean by "different sets of frequencies" ? The frequencies ARE related to the device, that is a given.
- It is highly unlikely that the devices are set up to electrically resonate at 7.3 Hz. This 7.3 Hz vibration is likely a byproduct of other resonances.


You have hit on some good points, most of which have been mentioned several times in the past.

Keep up the good work.

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2007, 03:12:02 PM »
dfro,
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There are some problems.

- No induction occurs to the collector at 90?.
- Electron flow begins before the magnetic field builds.
- Flux cutting through the collector will not induce current in the collector. The orientation is out.
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These comments are incorrect.




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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2007, 03:42:30 PM »
Grumpy
Would you care to expand on your comment



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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2007, 06:05:39 PM »
Why does the physical shape of a sine wave have anyting to do here ive seen that sneaky wave guide shape on bep's, and recent model and when dfro says wind like your going around spokes ....  As well grumpy's right induction will happen at 90 degress from the control coil so dont make this sound like dfro is off his rocker ... dfro's post broke down some key things a little further.. and well im sure as hell gonna make a loop in aduicaty of 4 tones matching that description and when you go looking for the tenth make sure you count natural half steps or dont.. ha figure that one out if you dont know anything about music theory :) and see what intervals may be good to use... wait only golden ones will give results...
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 02:17:44 AM by Localjoe »

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2007, 06:19:46 PM »
According to Maxwell, and practical applications, in order for there to be magnetic flux, there must first be electron flow. They occur at the same time.

Prior to electron flow, there is only potential.. no B-field. Electron flow begins after one time constant of relaxation time, and from our perspective, that's almost instantaneous.

But feel free to indulge us and explain yourself grump. I am especially interested in your thoughts on 90? magnetic flux induction.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 02:33:15 AM by z_p_e »

Localjoe

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2007, 09:50:57 PM »
@zpe ive got a few ideas on how to prove it i'll be back with examples tongihte :)

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2007, 02:21:46 AM »
Alright...Was that a trick question... the torridd.jpg explains how that happens... 3 layers one sandwiched in the middle controls wound on top and bottom but clockwise on one and cc on the other that way the magnetic pulse is left in the ring and the second winding on the lower ring same wire sends the pulse in the opposite direction...?
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 08:46:34 AM by Localjoe »

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2007, 06:56:56 AM »
Grumpy
Would you care to expand on your comment
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Doesn't seem like you'll get an answer AM. I wonder why?

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2007, 04:47:35 PM »
Grumpy
Would you care to expand on your comment
AM

Doesn't seem like you'll get an answer AM. I wonder why?

I do not care to expand my comment except to reiterate that your comments are incorrect and you should verify them for yourselves.

You guys already know everything there is to know.  You are experts in the field of "anomolous energy production".

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2007, 04:49:39 PM »
Sweet, so let's all just build what otto suggested and get some real results!  It looks good to me!  Can't wait to get those frequency generators!

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2007, 05:26:44 PM »
Grumpy
Would you care to expand on your comment
AM

Doesn't seem like you'll get an answer AM. I wonder why?

I do not care to expand my comment except to reiterate that your comments are incorrect and you should verify them for yourselves.

You guys already know everything there is to know.  You are experts in the field of "anomolous energy production".

That's rather evasive grump. Don't you think that those making claims that go against conventional knowledge are the ones who must explain themselves if their ideas are to be accepted?

I do not need to verify this. I have done the conventional experiment with two 90? coils....have you?

There is no magnetic flux coupling with this setup.

Can one cause the collector to "oscillate" by pulsing the toroid coils around it? Yes. Is it induction via magnetic flux? NO.

What value is added here by being coy and evasive? You can do better than that.

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2007, 10:56:01 PM »
okey some night time reading again

rest are here http://magneticcurrent.blogspot.com/

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2007, 03:14:07 AM »
@Zapnic

Leedskalnin's experiments were great, but his theory while supporting and explaining his experiments is a useful working model for some limited uses only, but nowhere near the true 'reality' of the situation, just like current electromagnetic, relativistic and thermodynamic theory isn't, you don't want to be taking his words to literally...

and look here, if you haven't already: http://www.coralcastlecode.com/index.html

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2007, 05:12:41 AM »
Grumpy
Would you care to expand on your comment
AM

Doesn't seem like you'll get an answer AM. I wonder why?

I do not care to expand my comment except to reiterate that your comments are incorrect and you should verify them for yourselves.

You guys already know everything there is to know.  You are experts in the field of "anomolous energy production".

That's rather evasive grump. Don't you think that those making claims that go against conventional knowledge are the ones who must explain themselves if their ideas are to be accepted?

I do not need to verify this. I have done the conventional experiment with two 90? coils....have you?

There is no magnetic flux coupling with this setup.

Can one cause the collector to "oscillate" by pulsing the toroid coils around it? Yes. Is it induction via magnetic flux? NO.

What value is added here by being coy and evasive? You can do better than that.

I had a nice long informative post, but deleted it.   Perhaps I am being rather cynical, just a drama queen, or just don't give a rat's ass...

It's a big world out there - bigger than Maxwell, and bigger than magnetic induction - where the hell have you been for the last 100 years?

Look it up - that's what I did.