Hi Dutch

I mainly posted it as I found it somewhat inspirational.  I do have one or two issues with the theories of operation suggested though.  Once sentence particularly concerns me:

I believe that some of the free electrons do take on a slightly positive charge,

What is meant by this is anyones guess as I don't think science will accept the fact that an electron could be come more negative or positive than it is.  The electron as far as I'm aware is a fundamental particle and as such of fixed value.  It think it would be wrong to think that the electron could have a variable charge.

But, having said that, like Meyer, you don't necessarily have to understand the science to make it work!

Okay I read all the post and feel that I might be able to aid some. I will first say I do not know all of Meyer/Dingle technology through and through. But the one thing I did is to replace the blocking diode with a voltage multiplier. I every post I have every read on Meyer type technology I have never read that someone was able to raise or lower the voltage independently of the frequency or has anyone ever pumped the water through the cells. I have designed a WFC that is totally isolated and all electricity has no choice but to go through the tubes. I have also made a circuit that can raise and lower the voltage independently, though on that one I had a lot of help. The circuit will produce three phases, since I desided to go back and take another look at Meyer's work.

Also I don't hear anyone talking about the skin effect of the wires too be used. This part is very new too me but I will be making some coils that look pretty much like Meyers. The chokes will be of 16 gauge wire, to take advantage of the skin effect. Dr. Daniel Dingle is still alive but not talking to anyone it seems. The one thing I do know about this technology is that greed is it's worst enemy. Most fail to see just how big the opposition is too this technology. Once they posted some of Dr. Dingles work, but it has been removed now, and I saw just how close it was to Meyers technology. So I combined the two in the hopes that I too can become energy independent, don't worry if I get it working I will make a how too pdf. and post it.

The WFC design has all the needed stuff in it as far as I can tell, a constant water level, water flowing through the tubes, voltage isolation, and auto filling of the water. I have to build the WFC first so I can match the chokes too it's capacitance. I still have a lot of testing too be done so lots of trial and error I am sure. But I seem to be alone in this type of thinking when talking about Meyer technology. Plus another thing I see is that a lot of people get Meyers air conditioner mixed up with his water fuel capacitor. The air conditioner is not even Meyer's work someone else created it and Meyer took it as his own. But he is pulling electrons from the incoming air or air intake system not the WFC.

I like you get upset when talking to stupids, but everyone should have a voice, for that part of this technology might just come from some of these unexpected sources. So in that I have learned to be open in a way, still working on my temper .

One thing I do know is we are running out of time to get this technology up and running. America is soon coming to an end once this North American Union is formed in 2010. All of these wars for oil have too be stopped, for America will sink into a depression if we keep this up. 

This is my latest WFC design I will hold out on the circuit until tested so no one gets mad at me if it doesn't work.

Hi Farrah, It takes me some time to get things done due to buget constraints, but I like the science you guys put up. The skin effect is when the current will nolonger flow through the center of the wire, raising the resistance of that wire due too the frequency used. In most transfromers this is not a desired effect, but with this technology it is. The voltage multiplier, works pretty good and I am going to try and get the frequency up to 48k Hz, for that is what Keely found to work best.  Like you I too hate reading Meyer's patents from all the hidding of his technology an made up words, like I said greed is this technologies worst enemy. What I did to force the WFC to put the voltage only where we want it is Isolate the positive and negetive. The positive is press fitted to an aluminum plate and the negetive is also going through a aluminum plate totally covered up with arcylic and using Tesla 18 gauge wire. The reason I am making it this way is that I have had the voltage go everywhere but where you want it too go, and notice that the water level needs to be ketp constant. The use of the water flow pump is to acheive these goals and more.

Camster6 and I have a lot in common but I am doing it with tubes, I am H2opower on You Tube. Ever since they raided Ravi I stop posting everthing. I just post the stuff to save gas and the effects of vacuum on normal electrolysis.

Dr. Dingle uses vacuum to draw in the Hydo/Oxy gas mixture into the combustion chamber, seems to be an easyer way to do it. Once I get the funds I will build more and more test too come. The coil for the air conditioner is already made and the diodes and capacitors are in the mail. I am putting everything into a 1985 VW Sirocco, most of what I build goes right to use. This is the coil I made for the air processor:

Hi Dutch

I found his post on another forum.

I'm not sure the white coating is necessary at high voltages, I have never seen or heard Meyer mention this.  I think that the white coating is more effective and hence important for low voltage cells. Though I could be wrong.

H2O

Impressive looking coil there.

Daniel Dingle or is it 'Dingel' has always been a little bit of a puzzle to me because, as far as I'm aware, he just uses straight dc from the car battery.  There was also another unit by a Carl Cella that was using straight dc and apparantly able to power a car.  I used to be extremely dismissive of these people and consider them frauds as their claims seemed impossible, but now feel I may have been a little hasty in my judgement.  I'm wondering (assuming that is, they are/were genuine) if there might be a crossover in technology here between the wfc and the Joe cell. Almost like a hybrid in the technologies.

Afterall, we seem to currently have a lot of people being able to 'charge' water and then set it alight.

Hi Farrah day,
That stuff I found on Dr. Dingle was pulled down off the net in just a few months, but what it showed was that the two technology are very close. In the place of the blocking diode Dr. Dingle used a voltage multiplier, most of the rest of it looked very similar to Meyers. They both used just about the same types of stuff, so my conclusion was that their is more than one way to skin this cat, but dealing with the skin non the less. I will have to look through my records and see if I saved any of what I found on Dr. Dingles technology. I have been writing him asking that he give his technology away, since it has been close too forty years now that he has been running cars off of water, and the IMF and World Bank is not going to let up anytime soon. All I can do is hope he hears me, and help save humanity for we really need this right now. If you have been following world events you will know time is short, and that the One world government is well underway in it's planning. We need to be free of their systems of control and most of it is through energy and the control there of. Times are going to get really hard in the next few years as the dollar crashes and they bring in this Amero for the 2010 planned North American Union. Well enough of that, huh? But I can see what they are planning and it is nothing less than slavery for about 98% of the worlds population.

Anyway once I have enough money to buy a new intake crossover tube I will build the air conditioner with the lights, voltage extraction circuitry, and all. That is suppose to help any type of fuel burning device, so too save on even more gas I will make that ASAP. The new WFC I have too have made for the tolerances are too tight for me too make at home for I will be using a 1 inch diameter outside tube with .035 walls and a 7/8 inch solid bar in the center. That gives just about 1/64 to 1/32 of an inch on both sides too be centered, not a lot of room to be playing with.  I went with a solid bar for in the end Meyer did too. I will try it both ways negative inside and positive to see if it will make any difference. I just wish I have the income to get things done in a timely fashion.

I fairly certain that Purarich never claimed to run a car off ac electrolysis, but I see Purarich as being the most likely source of Meyers inspiration.

Hi Farrah

I fully agree to that. There are just too many similarities to dismiss any connection between the two.... The question now is what exactly is it that makes this thing tick? Is it the audio type signal that comes from an alternator? If so, how did SM copy that into his solid state technology......OR didn't he??? We can see the alternator in he demo cell video and the car that ran on water has a alternator of course. This raises the question, do we have proof somewhere that SM was NOT using an alternator and still got the massive production?

So far i've only looked at Puharichs patent. Have you got any more stuff or relevant links that you're willing to share? (Puharich related that is....)

Robert

Dr. Andrija Puharich's vibratory method of breakin


May 6, 1990

Vibrations that Split Molecules
Produce Energy

Seawater - or even dirty rainwater - could be transmuted into fuel
through a new technique serendipitously discovered by a researcher
in medical electronics.

Dr. Andrija Puharich has found a way to split water molecules by
tuning in on the vibrations of their atoms and breaking the
molecules into hydrogen, which could become fuel, and oxygen.

Alternating-current impulses augment naturally occurring
vibrations in the H2O molecules. By boosting the vibrations out
of control, Puharich makes the molecules fly apart into the
component atoms.

He likens the water-splitting effect to the way soldiers marching
in step across a bridge risk damaging the structure by making it
vibrate at a critical, stress-producing rate.

Electrolysis by simple direct current would create hydrogen and
oxygen with a net energy efficiency of only 54 percent, according
to Puharich, a Virginia-based inventor. But he says his
alternating-current system reaches better than 90 per cent
efficiency.

A former physician, Puharich discovered the water-splitting
technique a dozen years ago but has only recently presented his
findings publicly.

Originally, he was investigating the DISRUPTIVE EFFECT of
electrical resonances on blood clots and noticed a peculiar thing:
in dilute blood, a SPECIFIC FREQUENCY made bubbles appear in the
liquid.

Lab analysis showed that the bubbles were composed of oxygen and
hydrogen.

A barrel-shaped cavity contains the water in Puharich's recently
refined system. He introduces alternating current at A KEY
FREQUENCY of 600 cycles per second.

The cavity resonates with the impulses in somewhat the same way
the body of a violin resonates with the sound of one string,
ADDING HIGHER AND LOWER HARMONICS TO THE PRINCIPAL TONE.

The additional harmonics, Puharich says, cause the proton in the
hydrogen atom TO ROTATE, further forcing the hydrogen to split
from the oxygen.

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Puharich suggests that the splitting energy could be provided by
solar or wind generators. The hydrogen could then be stored and
used conveniently in fuel cells or hydrogen-powered cars.