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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power  (Read 829548 times)

TheNOP

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1155 on: January 31, 2009, 07:52:53 AM »
Quote from: Grumpy on January 31, 2009, 05:37:09 AM
precursers to H2O
so, if i understand correctly.
you are saying that the ozone accelerate water dissociation, acting as a replacement of the amps.
right ?


@all
see this, good reading.
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/magnetic.html
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Grumpy

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1156 on: January 31, 2009, 06:11:16 PM »
Quote from: TheNOP on January 31, 2009, 07:52:53 AM
so, if i understand correctly.
you are saying that the ozone accelerate water dissociation, acting as a replacement of the amps.
right ?


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see this, good reading.
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/magnetic.html

No. 

Meyer broke down water/steam/air into constituents that possess a great amount of potential energy over a long period of time.   He then converted this potential energy into kinetic energy in a very short amount of time.   

Sort of a molecular spark-gap transmitter like Tesla often used and rported obtaining millions of horsepower out with only a few horsepower in.  Energy is conserved - power is not - and power is what runs the engine.
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1157 on: February 04, 2009, 03:45:57 PM »
Hello, i am new here and i need some help. Here is my WFC : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNuTvo_I-E
I have the problem that i have big bubbles, but the time between the bubbles is to big. Can somebody help me ?
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1158 on: February 07, 2009, 08:43:47 PM »
If no one else wants to help you out I'll give it a try.  Nice looking cell. If you have a pwm hooked up to your cell and the clearance between your tubes is about .064 and .045 thousandths of an inch, you are on the right track. You have to  condition your stainless steel tubes via Ravi's method. Go to panacea university.org (on the internet) and scroll down to Ravi's water fuel cell replication. The process is listed in this document.
Cheers, Ray.
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1159 on: February 07, 2009, 09:46:18 PM »
Thank you very much for your answer. First i tried it like ravi has it done, but i hade no real succes. Then i disassambled the whole WFC, cleaned the tubes and build it up new with only 2 tubes. Fist what i recogniced is that ther was no more brown junk. I wanted to follow ravis method of conditioning, but i never reached 2.5 or 3 amps, so i decided to condition the tubes for a few secends with max amp and then with only 0.2 or 0.3 for 30 minutes and the after this for a few sec max power again and then power off. HHO is still increasing, but am i on the right way ? Or do i have to modify the PWM for higer frequency ?
Thanks for every help !
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1160 on: February 09, 2009, 09:52:41 PM »
If you have a Dave Lawton style pwm at this time stick with those frequency's.
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1161 on: April 01, 2009, 07:37:13 AM »
Hello guys
I'm working and researching almost every day since 3 years ago and I got many information about it.
First of all I'm going to tell you 2 months ago I met an inventor witch already have invented this and patented this technology. Is a little different processes witch uses special catalysts materials and permanent magnets, he told me that he invented it I 1960 in New York university, we talked for 8 hours. He said the government    didn't allowed him to make it and had receive many advices to stop his work. All his stuff has been stolen. Hi is 80 years old now.

His stuff works as a tank circuit (resonance) at 500 khz very high Q 5 mm wire diameter coil and especial catalyst witch can lower the energy required to split the water. This catalyst makes the magnetism created by the coil witch round the cell together with the permanent magnets to splits the water.

About Stanley Meyer:
He used magnetic electrodes as all his drawings show it.
(try to search about catalyst, hot water hydrogen, EDTA, permanent magnet, ... )

Electron extraction circuit works like Bruce Perreaut device creating ozone with high voltage and at the same time generating a very high current at low voltage.
Pressure, heat, light are things that can help to. Search about Direct conversion of Energy. Think about Geet pantone.   

The efficiency of the motor is a important thing to consider, the cars lost 70% of the combustible energy in heat, (can't we use this heat to make the efficiency of our engines goes up to 75 %?) meyers used the principle of direct injection that recently is being used in diesel and in modern gasoline motors. But today they use only super charge pumps and like. (Turbo makes engine more efficient as there is more pressure (heat) inside the cylinder "more oxygen"
 
We need help for continue our work, as we are going to work now with catalysts and they costs a lot of money we need about 200k for construct 3 or 4 prototypes. If you help us is going to be much easier and faster to bring this technology out of the papers as i'm working full time on this. For donations and more information on what we are doing visit our cause on facebook there you can join the cause and donate with your credit cards. If you want to invest contact us and ask for information on this. Thank you  http://apps.facebook.com/causes/248208/54585224?m=cc366e79
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dankie

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1162 on: April 01, 2009, 04:48:03 PM »
Its not about catalysts , its about KISS ... And its just straight up NOT about catalysts . Might I say also that your 3 years of studying have lead you nowhere .

200k... plz lol ,you can buy Stan's Buggy with that lol .
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sebosfato

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1163 on: April 01, 2009, 08:21:17 PM »
All I can tell you is that this catalyst (not electrolyte) is iron, barium and manganese oxides made like a sponge, the electrode materials. This way is possible to split liters of water with few watts and maintain it separated. Voltage goes up to 600kv. If you believe or not is up to you I'm sharing this information because I really need your help. I tried to talk with green peace, governments, bla bla bla and now I think that the only way to put this money together is find people interested in this the rest of the world care only about their selfs and just don't care about anything. Trust me I'm a musician and I play my guitar in the metro 1 year ago I wrote in my guitar help me to save the world and ask me how ... seeing +-100.000 people or more every day in 1 year, 8 asked how you want to save the world ;) 4 laughs ;D, 2 cops arrested me >:( :-\, and the rest of the people was to busy for think ???. Sorry about my poor english.
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TheCell

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1164 on: April 02, 2009, 12:26:42 AM »
@sebosfato
I don't know any application that claims to have overunity on the market.
If you don't spread your knowledge to the public for free you will keep it to the grave.
Others have tried to bring it to the market and have failed.
Even if this companies do exist, they are not well known.
Trying to commercialize it means destroying others buisnesses, and this buisnesses result in tax income.
There are so many forces against you, so you will fail.
I will buy evt. at a british store the whole device , and if it works I will find a way to spread my knowledge .
Not the internet , and not the media.
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dankie

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1165 on: April 02, 2009, 01:15:12 AM »
http://cartech.ides.com/datasheet.aspx?i=101&E=256

As much as I like your idea I have to disagreee , the electrodes were just normal 304 bare faced material and nothing fancy , KISS ...

The VIC has already been posted and now Dynodon has followed throught his research and found the original wire . A close replica was made and it had something like 10 Henries , its a very complex thing to try and replicate but luckily we have Don .

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=122

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1281
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sebosfato

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1166 on: April 02, 2009, 01:20:33 AM »
The problem is that we can develop this because we have the know how, patents ... we can bring it to the market and do it in a such way that it become cheap for the people in few time. Is not possible to construct one at time is not safe and it would cost to every one at least 50x more than would cost if he buy a ready product, mass production means less production cost, if you buy 100 grams of barium it costs much more for each gram than if you buy a 10 ton you understand what I mean. With the money would be possible to bring this to the all world. Than I believe everything will cost less money because wont have the energy cost inside. The pollution also would stop and thats what I really want. I started this work thinking in the future in 50 years how would my kids live with so much pollution. We also need to find a smart way to transform our waste and trash in something usable and clean but that is another story. I believe that the all world (this system) is arriving in a "crackdown" and things is going to be a little different for example if energy is free to every one water and food could also be free to everyone in some way not Communism. I changed my mind when I started working on this technology because I started thinking that after 100 years they didn't stop slavery but they found a way to slave everyone in their perverted and perverse system. If you work and you earn 1000 euros for month here in Milan for an example, you can pay the house rent, the bills, the supermarket bill and its all over. But why I have to earn 1000 euros if my boss earn 100 x or more over only my work. Why??? Because this way the next month I'm going to have to work to pay for my food and house. But what the slaves had 100 years ago house and food??? We are today a kind of sophisticated slaves witch still prefer living this way. But can you imagine the price of everything goes down every one will have less needs and thats why i think is a little kind of freedom water just came from the sky and the electricity come from the air what else can we need. wars? why? just some thoughts  ;D

I believe i won't fail because I'm not going to follow the steps people who fail follow. I also would like to share this technology but until it is on papers i can't tell you spent 50.000 dollars on it trying to see if it works by your self, can you imagine how many people would spent their money with no results doing the same experiment. Otherwise if we put our forces together money could be spent on the right way don't you think? I got the key i got the inventor, patents and all we miss is the money to elaborate it.  ;)
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dankie

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1167 on: April 02, 2009, 01:45:55 AM »
Quote from: sebosfato on April 02, 2009, 01:20:33 AM
The problem is that we can develop this because we have the know how, patents ... we can bring it to the market and do it in a such way that it become cheap for the people in few time. Is not possible to construct one at time is not safe and it would cost to every one at least 50x more than would cost if he buy a ready product, mass production means less production cost, if you buy 100 grams of barium it costs much more for each gram than if you buy a 10 ton you understand what I mean. With the money would be possible to bring this to the all world. Than I believe everything will cost less money because wont have the energy cost inside. The pollution also would stop and thats what I really want. I started this work thinking in the future in 50 years how would my kids live with so much pollution. We also need to find a smart way to transform our waste and trash in something usable and clean but that is another story. I believe that the all world (this system) is arriving in a "crackdown" and things is going to be a little different for example if energy is free to every one water and food could also be free to everyone in some way not Communism. I changed my mind when I started working on this technology because I started thinking that after 100 years they didn't stop slavery but they found a way to slave everyone in their perverted and perverse system. If you work and you earn 1000 euros for month here in Milan for an example, you can pay the house rent, the bills, the supermarket bill and its all over. But why I have to earn 1000 euros if my boss earn 100 x or more over only my work. Why??? Because this way the next month I'm going to have to work to pay for my food and house. But what the slaves had 100 years ago house and food??? We are today a kind of sophisticated slaves witch still prefer living this way. But can you imagine the price of everything goes down every one will have less needs and thats why i think is a little kind of freedom water just came from the sky and the electricity come from the air what else can we need. wars? why? just some thoughts  ;D

I believe i won't fail because I'm not going to follow the steps people who fail follow. I also would like to share this technology but until it is on papers i can't tell you spent 50.000 dollars on it trying to see if it works by your self, can you imagine how many people would spent their money with no results doing the same experiment. Otherwise if we put our forces together money could be spent on the right way don't you think? I got the key i got the inventor, patents and all we miss is the money to elaborate it.  ;)

Man all you need is a small tube , a VIC and nice pulsing circuit thats not the crappy lawtons , the PLL might be good also.

Not every VIC is as good with the PLL , it depends on the sensitivity of the core and how precise is your resonance signal .Everything was taken into consideration when the VIC was designed by Stan Meyers ...

Plz watch this video .

From 49 to 55 minutes .

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2253510522219690451&ei=0PvTSe-wEo-WrwLAzqWLDw&q=stanley+meyers+colorado&hl=en


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sebosfato

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1168 on: April 02, 2009, 01:46:27 AM »
Quote from: dankie on April 02, 2009, 01:15:12 AM
http://cartech.ides.com/datasheet.aspx?i=101&E=256

As much as I like your idea I have to disagreee , the electrodes were just normal 304 bare faced material and nothing fancy , KISS ...

The VIC has already been posted and now Dynodon has followed throught his research and found the original wire . A close replica was made and it had something like 10 Henries , its a very complex thing to try and replicate luckily we have Don .

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=122

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1281

If you are working with the injectors type maybe, the Res F would be very low, Yes the ferritic 430 wire interacts better with the magnetism for restrict the flow of current (do you know reactor effect like for the fluorescent lamps) but the Q of the circuit becomes to low, and any way is also possible to do it with the copper wire. With plates like 200 square centimeters we have here 7uF and the coil 10 mH with very high Q About more the 1000, the variable transformer is needed to match the impedance to the water and the other coil is also a variac this way is possible to make fine adjustment. Impedance in secondary is = to total impedance in primary * by the factor of transformation ^2


I also have the pll circuits and all  ;)
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #1169 on: April 02, 2009, 01:55:39 AM »
Resonance is what anyways ? Efficiency ?

Dam right a low Q ...
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