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Author Topic: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !  (Read 12516 times)

hartiberlin

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Hi All,
the newest Newman video showing his motor running on about 400 Volts of solar panels
with 0.27 Amps,so about 108 Watts input
and pumping water:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5684495902617203266


Public demo will be at the 5th of July 2007 in Phoenix , Arizona !
Regards, Stefan.

« Last Edit: June 30, 2007, 03:24:51 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2007, 03:25:20 AM »
Forwarded from Evan Soul?:

It's Done!
And the results are phenomenal.

To view the latest energy machine video, visit:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5684495902617203266

The video shows something which has never been done before:

A 7,500-lb Newman energy machine with a 1,200-lb rotary and a 450-lb flywheel (spinning at hundreds of rpms) powering a 375-lb positive displacement pump with a 4-inch diameter intake/out-take & 10-foot head pumping 5,000 GALLONS PER DAY is running off only:  4 SOLAR PANELS that can produce a MAXIMUM OF JUST UNDER 120 WATTS (up to 400 volts x .287 amps)!!!

* * * * * * *

Joseph Newman plans to demonstrate the above technology in Phoenix, Arizona
on Thursday, July 5, 2007.

Please contact Joseph Nolfe at (205) 835-9022
to obtain location/time details in Phoenix.
(As of this email, details are being arranged.)

* * * * * * *
Note:

JOSEPH NEWMAN WILL AGAIN BE FEATURED ON THE SCIENCE CHANNEL:

"BEYOND INVENTION --- New Energy"

Energy machine inventor Joseph Newman will be featured on THE SCIENCE CHANNEL
three (3) times Wednesday & Thursday, July 4th & 5th.

Please consult your local listings for details.

Also, here's the weblink address for the Science Channel broadcast times featuring Joseph Newman:

http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=48.13776.120356.11352.x

Please let others know about the upcoming broadcasts!

Best regards,

Evan Soule'
JNPCo./NECorp.
http://www.josephnewman.com
Additional important video seen at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1610087835473512086&hl=en

For additional information, please contact:

Mr. Joseph Nolfe
President & CEO
Newman Energy Corporation
(205) 835-9022

* * * * * * *

THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN

An Invention Whose Time Has Come!

Nikola Tesla once wrote:

"The day when we shall know exactly what electricity is,
 will chronicle an event probably greater than any other
 recorded in the human race."

* IMAGINE a civilization with an access to virtually
 unlimited energy . . .

* IMAGINE an energy source that is abundant, inexpensive,
 and environmentally-friendly . . .

* IMAGINE a stable and durable alternative to oil, gas,
 coal, and nuclear . . .

* IMAGINE an electromagnetic Motor which runs cool and
 harnesses the elemental forces of the universe in
 complete accord with the 1st Law of Thermodynamics . . .

* IMAGINE such a Motor powering the world --- every
 automobile, appliance, home, farm, factory, ship, and
 plane, at a FRACTION of the present cost of energy . . .

* IMAGINE such a Motor enabling us to someday reach the
 stars --- safely and inexpensively . . .

Such a technology now exists:

***********************************
THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN
 ***********************************

The A & E (Arts & Entertainment) Network aired a national Special entitled
"Conspiracies" which featured the revolutionary technology of Joseph Newman.

Joseph Newman has been featured on the CBS Evening News, The Tonight Show,
ABC/CNN National News, LIFE Magazine, PBS's "All Things Considered," in thousands of
newspapers/ magazines across the world, and on hundreds of radio talk shows
presenting his revolutionary technology.

Better than 30 physicists, nuclear engineers, electrical engineers, and electrical technicians
have signed Affidavits attesting to the validity of Joseph Newman's revolutionary invention:
an electromagnetic Motor/Generator that could supply every America's home, farm,
business, automobile, and appliance with electrical power at a fraction of the present cost
and enable you to become energy independent.

 **********************************************************

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2007, 03:28:36 AM »
Forwarded from Evan Soul?:

Stefan --

The energy machine is now running entirely from several solar panels --- nothing else.

The maximum external energy input that the solar panels can provide is 120 watts.

And yet those 120 watts are sufficient to:

1) Turn a 1,200-lb rotary!
2) Turn a 450-lb flywheel 500-600 rpms!
3) Power a 350-lb positive displacement pump, pumping water at the rate of 5,000 gallons per day!

Moreover, the fluke meter is showing back-spikes in excess of 1,000 volts!

The sparking that appears on the commutator is LESS than the single spark that might occur when your hand touches a door handle after crossing a carpet on a cold, dry day.

For anyone to claim that the 120 watts from the solar panels can perform the above would be ludicrous.

The energy to power the system is coming from the atomic domains of the copper conductor inside that 7,500-lb energy machine.

rgds,

Evan


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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2007, 07:44:39 AM »
Public demo will be at the 5th of July 2007 in Phoenix , Arizona !

WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!

Consider me there! I'll post some videos of the demo if they'll let me.
WOW I was uber bummed out today, right up untill I just read that!

~Dingus Mungus
« Last Edit: June 30, 2007, 08:09:12 AM by Dingus Mungus »

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2007, 08:09:12 AM »
the only problem is the cost of a 7500lb motor is prob more then an house LOL

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2007, 08:53:04 AM »
After further review I'm slightly concerned by the numbers now...

Basically its descibed load is 5000gallons in 10 hours. (appox 9gpm)
The described solar power source is capable of 120w max.

Go and crunch the numbers against pumps designed to do this.
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/performancepropumps.html
It says that pump will move 100% more water at the same wattage.

Anyone else slightly confused by this?

~Dingus Mungus

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2007, 08:03:08 PM »
Hello Dingus:

The calculus I have seen and I have done say that the work done is around 20 to 30 watts, so I guess that what poor old Joseph has is a very unefficient and massive way to pump water wasting otherwise more useful solar power.




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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 03:10:03 AM »
Hmm,
so let?s try to calculate,how much power it needs to move how much water
up 10 Foot ( 3 Meters) in one second ...

Okay, Newman says in the video he is moving up 9 gallons of water (about 34 Liters)
in a minute 10 foot up.

So now to move 1 Kg = 1 Liter of water up 3 Meters ( 10 foot ) you need a work energy W
of:
W= mass x earth gravitational acceleration x height.
So W=  1 Liter x 9.81 x 3 Meters= 29.43 Wattseconds ( Joule)

So if you want to bring up every second 1 Liter = 1 Kg of water 3 Meters up you need
a Wattage of 29.43 Wattseconds / 1 Second= 29.43 Watts.

Now Joe is pumping 9 gallons per minute, that is 34 Liters per minute and divided
by 60 to get a value per second :
34 Liters/minute  / 60 = 0.5666 Liters/second.

So Joe is pumping just 0.5666 Liters/second 3 Meters up.

So as it is less than 1 Liters per minute we must multiply the
29.43 Watts x 0.5666  and thus get 16.68 Watts.

So we only need 16.68 Watts contant power input to pump up
the same volume of water Joe is pumping up, if we would have
a 100 % efficient electrical to mechanical conversion pumping system.

Now Joe needs about 120 Watts of power for this.
So it seems his system is pretty inefficient to do this job.

But you never know, how much losses his system has
internally, e.g. how much energy goes into heating
his coil, how much enery is lost in turning the gears,
how much energy is lost inside his pump as friction...
Hmm... So as I said before, the mechanical output of
the Newman motors is less than the inputed electrical energy.

I don?t understand, why Joe Newman does not see this ???

He should better try to enhance his machine in putting out more RF
power and light bulbs with it as he has done with his earlier machines...
The real strength in his machine is the RF power output via the sparks
and the DC component energy spike with the bigger coil machines.
But mechanically they are only around 60 to 70 % efficient I guess.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2007, 04:28:06 AM »
The more RF per rotation the more chance that extra power by transmutation.

I've been reviewing Newman's old right-up he put a short out segment on the commutator to reduce  "wasteful sparking" ??? But he has many different commutator
setups. One fired 28Xper rotation. I'm building one out of tungsten firing 22X per rotation.
 I think he found out later what was happening. I'll read some more.

I'm having problems downloading anything off Newman's site, problems staying logged on and posting here as well ???
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 05:02:30 AM by maxc »

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2007, 06:11:54 AM »
So then the question remains:
Why would Joeseph Newman make this a demo???

I'm sure he realizes that the pump is not efficient, but what about the device is going to provide this excess energy. I would assume he has something up his sleeve, but I can't imagine what... Unless maybe the pump is also a heater that brings the output temp up high enough to signify a Cop>1. Who knows though... I'll go to the demo if it still happens and see what I can find out.

~Dingus Mungus

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 11:00:17 PM »
So then the question remains:
Why would Joeseph Newman make this a demo???

I'm sure he realizes that the pump is not efficient, but what about the device is going to provide this excess energy. I would assume he has something up his sleeve, but I can't imagine what... Unless maybe the pump is also a heater that brings the output temp up high enough to signify a Cop>1. Who knows though... I'll go to the demo if it still happens and see what I can find out.

~Dingus Mungus

Yes,please go to the demo and ask Joe,
why his pump should be better than one of these compact desgin pumps:
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/performancepropumps.html
which pump more water the same height high at the same power input.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 01:20:44 AM »
I spoke with Joe Nolfe and discovered that the Arizona demo was unfortunately cancelled due to venue problems, but the demo will be happening this Thursday in Alabama. If we can get one of our south eastern American members to attend, I still believe it to be benificial to have a trusted member on site to assist in measuring any anomolous output. I told Mr Nolfe about our efficiency estimates on the water pump, and while he was skeptical about my assertions of low efficiency we discussed it to the extent that the phone call would allow for. He said he would visit this site tonight to see our work on the newman concept motors, and hopefully ask Mr Newman or a technical representive from ASU to come and answer some questions for us. As I understand it himself and Mr Newman were unaware of our efforts here, but fully support the our goals of open source free energy systems.

I'm suppost to give him a call back in a few days, and I'll update this or another appropriate thread with any new information I obtain.

Anyone in the Alabama who would be willing to visit the demo this thursday please get in contact with Mr Nolfe ASAP to reserve a spot in advance.

Thanks to all,
~Dingus Mungus

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 04:00:59 PM »
Forwarded from Evan Soul?:

JOSEPH NEWMAN'S CHALLENGE TO THE WORLD:

Joseph Newman has issued a $10,000 challenge for ANYONE to provide a conventional motor that can be hooked up to those same solar panels in the video demonstration and then produce sufficient mechanical energy to power the 7,500-lb Newman energy machine (meaning: spin the energy machine's 1,200 rotary and 450-lb flywheel at 100's of rpms) PLUS power the 350-lb Positive Displacement Pump (meaning: spin its shaft at 100+ rpms) PLUS pump 5,000 gal/day of water against a 10 foot head.

Can anyone provide such a conventional motor (that is not using Joseph Newman's technology)?

-- Evan Soule'

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 04:06:12 PM »
The question really is, how much friction this huge Newman motor and the pump will have  at the used RPM ?

Only the frictional  losses at these RPM will count and the heat losses inside the Newman machine
from the input current.

It would be good, if this could be measured and then compared to the input power.

Then we can see, if there is enough power left to pump the water this high.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Newman now runs its 7500 pounds motor solely on solarcells !
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 04:31:42 PM »
From www.plumbingsupply.com/performancepropumps.html  ,
their "Artesian LOW 1725 RPM":
1/8HP motor,but max.152 W
head up to 14?                               Newman :10?
Pump-Volume: up to 1500gph !!!         "    "    "  : up to 5000gpd !!!   
                                      hour                                          day

S
  dL

p.s.: I would provide the Artesian pump a "power saver"(soft driver) !!!
       1/8 HP= 94,125 W

       
« Last Edit: July 05, 2007, 06:08:06 PM by lancaIV »