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turbo

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1500 on: August 10, 2009, 05:19:12 PM »
That would depend on how you define core.
If you mean copper collectors,then yes i use a core...
But if you are talking about a ferromagnetic core or a core like in transformers then no.

Why?
Because IT DISTURBS THE EARTHS MAGNETIC FIELD.
Any piece of ferromagnetic metal will alter the field,that is why the units stop when you bring iron close.

Also if it is running UHF or even 245Khz like Steven talked about....which core can handle that Otto?
Don't you know aircore is the prefered methode in high frequency applications?

Steven NEVER mentioned the word CORE in his writings, NEVER so WHY are you talking continously about it Otto??
He did mention TUBES many,MANY times...who is using them?? Besides me??

Why does nobody seem to understand it is a very small road to sucess.
You have to examine the signs and information carefully.
That means there is no room for going off road and do things in a diffrent way....

Marco.

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I always start with tubes.
I wish people could use vacuum tubes.
Remember i told you that it was easer to experiment with tubes.
However if you NEED exact frequency then use tubes.
It should be a lot easer to use tubes.
Using tubes to control the unit is easer at first TUBES are NOT as sensitive as SS control devices and DO NOT require the massive amounts of feed back to operate.
There is an advantage in tubes just from that standpoint alone
It was much easer to make one of these things work if you use tubes as a control system
Use tubes from the beginning and then try to switch to SS for the control unit.
I have said, there is a difference between solid state control devices and tube based control.
I believe it has something to do with the fact that solid state devices in of themselves are so very dirty and also that they require such a large amount of feedback to operate.
Tube control systems are stable in themselves!
I am sure this will be helpful to anyone who has not been able to understand why using tubes to control the unit is easer at first then trying to use solid state devices in the beginning of research.
NONE of us could think of a reason why SS devices would not work. After all they did the same things as tubes, just better, didn't they?
The reason it took soooooo long to make a successful SS control unit is because we maintained that attitude for so long. Finally we came to the conclusion that there must be SOMETHING that tube control devices did differently then SS devices.


 

MACEDONIA CD

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1501 on: August 10, 2009, 05:56:25 PM »
@otto

you  tell true  beacouse is  some strange old secret about  CORES

LIKE MAGIC

i have vonder what is there in to the big tpu   what core is that 

ho IS EASY TO CUT IN PICES  ;)

ONLY WHIT SIMPLE DRILL CUT

IS STUPID TO THING IS  METAL THAT OR FERITH MATERIAL  CORE

IST
<WHERE IS THE DOMAIN MATERIAL HAS DOING THE RESTING OF THE  JOB  FOR ICREASING THE ....
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Grumpy

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1502 on: August 10, 2009, 08:18:55 PM »
That would depend on how you define core.
If you mean copper collectors,then yes i use a core...
But if you are talking about a ferromagnetic core or a core like in transformers then no.

Why?
Because IT DISTURBS THE EARTHS MAGNETIC FIELD.
Any piece of ferromagnetic metal will alter the field,that is why the units stop when you bring iron close.

Also if it is running UHF or even 245Khz like Steven talked about....which core can handle that Otto?
Don't you know aircore is the prefered methode in high frequency applications?

Steven NEVER mentioned the word CORE in his writings, NEVER so WHY are you talking continously about it Otto??
He did mention TUBES many,MANY times...who is using them?? Besides me??

Why does nobody seem to understand it is a very small road to sucess.
You have to examine the signs and information carefully.
That means there is no room for going off road and do things in a diffrent way....

Marco.

Any metal near the device detunes it, nut just iron.

SM stated over three years ago that the devide had no ferromagnetic core.  This was about 3 to 6 months after the initial TPU threads started.

The units in the videos did not use tubes, SM said they used solid state controllers, so why do you talk about tubes endlessly?

sparks

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1503 on: August 11, 2009, 05:05:07 AM »
    SM used a negative plasma as a core intentionally or not. Then there seems to be introduced some phased compression of the magnetic field within the copper mass which takes on the form of a coil.
If we replace a choke coils core with a copper core what happens when we hit the copper core choke with various pulses at various duty cycles.  Normally setting and resetting the magnetic domains of the core material converts the hf spikes (kicks?) to heat as the core goes into hysterics.  But with a copper core something else must happen. 

rotaryfcg

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1504 on: August 11, 2009, 08:36:15 AM »
    SM used a negative plasma as a core intentionally or not. Then there seems to be introduced some phased compression of the magnetic field within the copper mass which takes on the form of a coil.
If we replace a choke coils core with a copper core what happens when we hit the copper core choke with various pulses at various duty cycles.  Normally setting and resetting the magnetic domains of the core material converts the hf spikes (kicks?) to heat as the core goes into hysterics.  But with a copper core something else must happen.
could it be a lot easier than that?could it be like cyclically compressing the flux that surround the conductive core(copper or not)?

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1505 on: August 11, 2009, 09:43:17 AM »
@rotary

i thing is easy to  spin only magnet fild WHITOUT MOVING

THE POINT IS THAT
ISt

whit simple setup we make here we dont moving the magnet fild  or  elektromagnet

ist @rotary..
what you thing about  that

rotaryfcg

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1506 on: August 11, 2009, 10:08:02 AM »
@mac
i mean just that ;compress the field that surround a conductive core.
squeeze the water hose.
the whole thing has tremendous emp capabilities - that's why the secrecy.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1507 on: August 11, 2009, 10:29:32 AM »
@mac
i mean just that ;compress the field that surround a conductive core.
squeeze the water hose.
the whole thing has tremendous emp capabilities - that's why the secrecy.

for me using thin magwire is like squeezing the water hose that produce a high voltage but little water  8)  ???

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1508 on: August 11, 2009, 01:41:39 PM »
@ROTARY


is ok that thE same thing but in ather way

is hard to spin  whitout moving  we thing that elktromagnet is spining BUT IS NOT SPIN

BUT I HOPE SOON WHILL BE  SEE SPINIG FILD




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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1509 on: August 11, 2009, 02:53:47 PM »
@mac
i'm sorry but i don't get your point.have no clue whatsoever what are you talking about.

sparks

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1510 on: August 11, 2009, 02:56:10 PM »
More like squeezing a hoola hoop.  With the phasing of the squeeze at different points around the hoop we start to get like a moving magnetic field compression within the core. 

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1511 on: August 11, 2009, 09:56:08 PM »
Hello all,

@Marco

Im talking about a core made with copper. We cant say that the collectors are a core because they have for each frequency a only few turns.

The frequency of 245kHz is nessesary to charge my 1 ring TPU. With a few vibrations - I see them on my scope - the core is charged. I dont know from where the vibrations are but they are NOT like a steady frequency from outside, not from power lines or from the grid. When we have here a storm then I see more powerfull vibrations...Only with this frequency my core is charged and I can see how kicks are "distorted" into very nice and fine looking sines and only with such sines I have a nice light. Not much but its a start point for me.

This is valid with a power supply. I dont want to mention when I use a battery because then everything changes in a positive way.

Im all the time talking about cores in a TPU because I saw in a video that SM had a 4" TPU in his hands and he said " 1 pound"!!!! Then he had a 6" TPU in his hands and said " 1 and a half pound".

I hope he didnt hide bananas in his TPU as I already posted a time ago.

Is it soooooo impossible that a TPU has a core? Why not? All the "big guys" used a core in their inventions: Tesla, Hendershot......all of them. Whats so bad to use a core?

Steven also NEVER mentioned why to use this 245kHz frequency. But he DID mention the weight of his TPUs.

Who is using ANY core in his TPU??

NOBODY!!!!

because ...... never mind, your all choise.

Otto


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1512 on: August 12, 2009, 09:31:00 AM »
@otto
i'm not saying that there's no core, there's one, a conductive one.
put hans coler and tesla in and you'll get steven mark out.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1513 on: August 12, 2009, 10:32:33 AM »
Hello, guys!

I've already read a lot of this thread (but not all). Sorry, if this idea already was here? or maybe I've got somthing wrong. I just really want to help you.

I assume that TPU is heating very much, and particulary thick copper wires are being heated.
What if we use not a thick copper wire, but a copper tube with a clean (distilled or not - it is for you to decide) water which is being pumped thru the tube by a small water pump (which is frequently used in small fountains). This tube will be connected with a reservoir with a cold water. This may be, for instance, a central hot-water heating system of your house (if it is a privat house) where there is already a water pump (usually).
Besides that might be possible to use water as an electricity conductor (in this case it shouldn't be distilled) instead of (or together with !) copper conductor you are using now. Remember solder wire from the PDF file - it's negative property is low melting temperature - it's difficult to use it. Water is already a liquid, conducting electricity!
Take into consideration that water is a substance that has very high thermal/heat capacity.
If wated can be used instead of copper, tube can be plastic.
Also it's possible to use any other coolant (like coolant in cars) but I know nothing about their electro-conducting properties.

So TPU, as an electrical generator, will be combined with water heating system (some sort of synthesis).

Thank you for your efforts, I will try to help you as much as I can.

rotaryfcg

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1514 on: August 12, 2009, 10:42:51 AM »
Hello, guys!

I've already read a lot of this thread (but not all). Sorry, if this idea already was here? or maybe I've got somthing wrong. I just really want to help you.

I assume that TPU is heating very much, and particulary thick copper wires are being heated.
What if we use not a thick copper wire, but a copper tube with a clean (distilled or not - it is for you to decide) water which is being pumped thru the tube by a small water pump (which is frequently used in small fountains). This tube will be connected with a reservoir with a cold water. This may be, for instance, a central hot-water heating system of your house (if it is a privat house).
Besides that might be possible to use water as an electricity conductor (in this case it shouldn't be distilled) instead of (or together with !) copper conductor you are using now. Remember solder wire from the PDF file - it's negative property is low melting temperature - it's difficult to use it. Water is already a liquid, conducting electricity!
Take into consideration that water is a substance that has very high thermal/heat capacity.
If wated can be used instead of copper, tube can be plastic.
Also it's possible to use any other coolant (like coolant in cars) but I know nothing about their electro-conducting properties.

Thank you for your efforts, I will try to help you as much as I can.
why not just use multi stranded(litz-) wire where each strand is insulated?