Author Topic: Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor (Read 235361 times)

scianto · « **Reply #285 on:** January 20, 2011, 08:01:17 PM »

Quote from: i_ron on January 20, 2011, 04:57:27 PM

scianto,
This is an open forum where we would love to hear about your motor and latest experiments also. Feel free to bring us uptodate.

I am very willing to share and all that was worth to share I did on my yt channel, as you can find it here posted.
I am still working on it but there is nothing new, no new findings, so not worth to post. If I post it must be something concrete, not a philosophy

i_ron · « **Reply #286 on:** January 21, 2011, 01:41:47 AM »

Quote from: scianto on January 20, 2011, 08:01:17 PM

I am very willing to share and all that was worth to share I did on my yt channel, as you can find it here posted.
I am still working on it but there is nothing new, no new findings, so not worth to post. If I post it must be something concrete, not a philosophy

I understand all too well. I have read much of your yt channel but wasn't really up to date on your work.

Just went through a learning experience these past few days... I can work with soic but tssop is beyond me, just too tiny. So back to square one and find a driver in a size I can work with.

There will be no reports for several days from me...

Ron

i_ron · « **Reply #287 on:** January 21, 2011, 08:56:18 PM »

Quote from: i_ron on January 21, 2011, 01:41:47 AM

Just went through a learning experience these past few days...

Ron

Thank goodness for Youtube!

Watched one of the tutorials and they say its easy, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY

But here is the proof, a bit messy in this magnification. The technique of "wiping" was what worked for me. With the chip fluxed and corner tacked, just a small amount on my regular tip and one pass down the row of half mm pins and a couple of dabs with the solder wick!

My first mistake had been buying the smallest tip which, like he says, doesn't work. In the pic the board is mounted on a 600 pitch machined pin 24 dip socket. These are great as there is a little spring catch in each pin socket that makes firm contact with 24 gauge buss wire.

Ron

Nali2001 · « **Reply #288 on:** January 21, 2011, 09:28:04 PM »

Quote from: scianto on January 20, 2011, 08:01:17 PM

I am very willing to share and all that was worth to share I did on my yt channel, as you can find it here posted.
I am still working on it but there is nothing new, no new findings, so not worth to post. If I post it must be something concrete, not a philosophy

Hi Scianto,
What is the best efficiency you have ever achieved from your machines?

Thanks!
Steven

Nali2001 · « **Reply #289 on:** January 21, 2011, 09:29:07 PM »

Quote from: i_ron on January 21, 2011, 08:56:18 PM

Thank goodness for Youtube!

Watched one of the tutorials and they say its easy, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY

But here is the proof, a bit messy in this magnification. The technique of "wiping" was what worked for me. With the chip fluxed and corner tacked, just a small amount on my regular tip and one pass down the row of half mm pins and a couple of dabs with the solder wick!

My first mistake had been buying the smallest tip which, like he says, doesn't work. In the pic the board is mounted on a 600 pitch machined pin 24 dip socket. These are great as there is a little spring catch in each pin socket that makes firm contact with 24 gauge buss wire.

Ron

Great video and nice little board you got there!
Hope it works out for you.

scianto · « **Reply #290 on:** January 22, 2011, 10:38:28 AM »

Quote from: Nali2001 on January 21, 2011, 09:28:04 PM

What is the best efficiency you have ever achieved from your machines?

The highest overal efficiency of motor=>alternator (or DC gnerator) setup, calculating as [total electrical Power out] / [total electrical Power in], was 98,9%. I did not measure I^2R losses and mechanical power output.

Nali2001 · « **Reply #291 on:** January 22, 2011, 01:23:06 PM »

Quote from: scianto on January 22, 2011, 10:38:28 AM

The highest overal efficiency of motor=>alternator (or DC gnerator) setup, calculating as [total electrical Power out] / [total electrical Power in], was 98,9%. I did not measure I^2R losses and mechanical power output.

Thanks,
So in other word purely mechanical this thing is overunity.
Have you ever tried capturing the inductive spike (or flyback, bemf as some call it)?

Regards,
Steven

scianto · « **Reply #292 on:** January 22, 2011, 07:58:01 PM »

Quote from: Nali2001 on January 22, 2011, 01:23:06 PM

Have you ever tried capturing the inductive spike (or flyback, bemf as some call it)?

I did and exactly that curciut gave me the 99% overall efficiency. This circuit:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/SRSM2i3_sterowanie_rys12.png

Also, all ICs I am using are with the pins, so no surface soldering. I bought the MC33035 on ebay USA, from him:
http://stores.ebay.pl/cordless89

BTW, I am uploading a new video to my yt channel, where I am showing, how PPMM can run well on one direction impulses. It should appear within a few hours but the English subtitles will take a day or two.

Nali2001 · « **Reply #293 on:** January 22, 2011, 11:36:22 PM »

Quote from: scianto on January 22, 2011, 07:58:01 PM

I did and exactly that curciut gave me the 99% overall efficiency. This circuit:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/SRSM2i3_sterowanie_rys12.png

Also, all ICs I am using are with the pins, so no surface soldering. I bought the MC33035 on ebay USA, from him:
http://stores.ebay.pl/cordless89

BTW, I am uploading a new video to my yt channel, where I am showing, how PPMM can run well on one direction impulses. It should appear within a few hours but the English subtitles will take a day or two.

Hi Scianto,
Yes I have worked with that chip before in brushless motors.
So that 99% includes the re-captured power?
Thanks for the circuit and video.

Steven

scianto · « **Reply #294 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:09:14 AM »

Quote from: Nali2001 on January 22, 2011, 11:36:22 PM

So that 99% includes the re-captured power?

Yes.

scianto · « **Reply #295 on:** January 23, 2011, 01:09:03 PM »

As promised, the new tests and video:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9713.msg271931#msg271931

Nali2001 · « **Reply #296 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:11:00 PM »

Hi Scianto,
Question, do you have some pictures of the inside of the motor?
Not all that important, but I am curious about the the core, coils, magnets and such.

Thanks,
Steven

scianto · « **Reply #297 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:31:13 AM »

Sure, Steven, I do have, as already posted a few times --
look in the folders starting with SRSM:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/

wings · « **Reply #298 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:28:53 AM »

Quote from: scianto on January 24, 2011, 07:31:13 AM

Sure, Steven, I do have, as already posted a few times --
look in the folders starting with SRSM:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/

see PM

Nali2001 · « **Reply #299 on:** January 24, 2011, 02:45:30 PM »

Quote from: scianto on January 24, 2011, 07:31:13 AM

Sure, Steven, I do have, as already posted a few times --
look in the folders starting with SRSM:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/

Hi Scianto.
Thanks! I see a few models.
But I can't see it too well, but does the latest model use solid steel instead of laminations? And did you had it laser cut or something?

Thanks!
Steven

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