Author Topic: Proven, smartphone-sized overunity (open sourced:) Steven E. Jones 8x overunity (Read 3401 times)

patch6 · « **on:** August 16, 2023, 08:21:56 AM »

Someone developed device sized overunity, like an always on smartphone kind of overunity.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.homemade-circuits.com/8x-overunity-circuit-using-joule-thief/amp/

Guy is advanced in years, someone just has to champion it out.

Just isn't mainstream because of shibboleths.

PDF of page is attached.

I'll post instructions when I'm on PC.

Paul-R · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2023, 11:22:18 AM »

This is an old project, run by our member, Physicsprofessor (or Physicsprof at OUR). He hasn't posted for a long time.

Cloxxki · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2023, 01:42:03 PM »

Joulethief was all the hype on forums a while ago.
Has anyone been able to form an understandable verdict on it? Can it get me more than 1 kWh from my 1 kWh mobile battery, proven by useful work? An EV goes 7 km on 1 kWh, how much will that be with a joulethief circuit?

I suspect there is no significant gain to be had, but I'd LOVE to be wrong on that one.

lancaIV · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2023, 02:06:04 PM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on August 16, 2023, 01:42:03 PM

Joulethief was all the hype on forums a while ago.
Has anyone been able to form an understandable verdict on it? Can it get me more than 1 kWh from my 1 kWh mobile battery, proven by useful work? An EV goes 7 km on 1 kWh, how much will that be with a joulethief circuit?

I suspect there is no significant gain to be had, but I'd LOVE to be wrong on that one.

Science is step by step re-/search and development !
' .....An EV .....' EV as experimental object ,Shell ECO-Marathon,AUDI R&D,....!
81 Wh/100 Km consume for 1-manned ( in this case : female passenger) electric vehicle by average 25 Km per hour velocity .
≤ 1 Wh per Kilometer ! Public World-Record !
Means : a continuous working 25 W generator output gives continuous drive,long range !

Tesla Inc. model World-Record drive,average 25 Km per hour,2 passengers ( father and son) :
6000 Wh/ 100 Km
Too fat to survive,overpackaged e-saloons !
Smartphone sized OU devices

81 Whp eVs !?

Btw: city max.velocity,24 hours continuous,human force :

2018
https://www.media.stellantis.com/de-de/opel/press/nici-walde-die-rekordjagerin

2022

https://hpv.org/neue-weltrekorde-durch-nici-walde/

wmbr
OCWL

ramset · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2023, 03:06:34 PM »

I believe there was topic here for this claim ?
Also I am fairly certain there was an issue with 8x claims,

Unfortunately equipment can not be relied on for ultimate proof ,
Autonomous running with gain ( should be a runaway )
Batteries and equipment not required…

The holy grail…
Quite certain Dr.Jones ( I believe his handle here now is “Dr.Jones”)
Still hunts for the elusive FE anomaly or gain mechanism.
As does most of the scientific world.
No stone left unturned!
Respectfully
Chet K

panyuming · « **Reply #5 on:** August 17, 2023, 10:14:28 PM »

$:-\$ :'(

Cloxxki · « **Reply #6 on:** August 18, 2023, 05:21:57 PM »

Quote from: ramset on August 16, 2023, 03:06:34 PM

I believe there was topic here for this claim ?
Also I am fairly certain there was an issue with 8x claims,

Unfortunately equipment can not be relied on for ultimate proof ,
Autonomous running with gain ( should be a runaway )
Batteries and equipment not required…

The holy grail…
Quite certain Dr.Jones ( I believe his handle here now is “Dr.Jones”)
Still hunts for the elusive FE anomaly or gain mechanism.
As does most of the scientific world.
No stone left unturned!
Respectfully
Chet K

It's said that Nikola Tesla supplied energy to large exhibitions (there was no grid at all) via his long distance towers for wireless transmission, all the way from Niagara Falls where I guess there were hydro generators.

If we could just reverse engineer and manage to broadly implement wireless power, we'd be killing off the vast battery industry and have money to spare, for instance to get Congo children meals and educuation rather than mining jobs.
No OU needed to make a huge impact. No extra energy produced even, perhaps less actually, skipping the battery production and transport. Because in the case of vehicles, the do move a lot of tonmiles of batteries.

adrouk · « **Reply #7 on:** August 18, 2023, 11:54:08 PM »

Or we may learn how to use batteries correctly

275 days and nights an LED was lit up by 6 AA batteries https://youtu.be/wEesPlaSzWI

ramset · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2023, 12:01:22 AM »

Years ago
Member pirate (Bill) lit 400 LED’s with a dead triple a battery?
Not sure how long it went?( I believe it was in joule thief topic here )

Unfortunately
LED’s can be poor load reference
To be clear, not diminishing your you tuber
Link again https://youtu.be/wEesPlaSzWI[/font][/size]

I understand he has other experiments which could use some discussion?
Respectfully
Chet K

x_name41 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2023, 02:21:36 AM »

A Russian named Valery Matalin had used this [joule thief] principle in his industrial floodlights, but this could hardly be called overunity...

adrouk · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2023, 08:19:43 PM »

Quote from: ramset on August 19, 2023, 12:01:22 AM

Years ago
Member pirate (Bill) lit 400 LED’s with a dead triple a battery?
Not sure how long it went?( I believe it was in joule thief topic here )

Unfortunately
LED’s can be poor load reference
To be clear, not diminishing your you tuber
Link again https://youtu.be/wEesPlaSzWI[/font][/size]

I understand he has other experiments which could use some discussion?
Respectfully
Chet K

I’m not sure that I got your point.

Initial post claim 9 hours continuous use of an LED with an electronic circuit and 1 AA battery.
In the video from YT someone else has kept an LED lit up for 275 DAYS with just 6 batteries AA connected 3 series with 3 parallel (claiming it is a Tesla Switch that configuration)

I’m saying again 275 days continued usage of an LED 3.2 V 20 mA which is basically lit up with just 3 batteries AA, while the other 3 batteries charge first set in use and he just swap them regularly.

This concept charge/discharge under load needs some investigation being batteries or capacitors … and we may find out that we don’t need huge power banks off the grid or we can just cut half of it.

Indeed that man, have loads more to share free and is able to provide instructions for whatever he is teaching/ showing to public, including .FE. and .ou! And they are quite basic (embryonic stage) compared with what 7 red orbs shared earlier . He is showing diy devices with instructions at moron level.

ramset · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2023, 08:45:51 PM »

Sorry for interrupting your thoughts
Please explain more ?

(Please no “moron” stuff here ..)

Leads to completely unnecessary conflicts which can derail topics ( often)
Respectfully
Chet K

adrouk · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2023, 09:43:30 PM »

Quote from: ramset on August 19, 2023, 08:45:51 PM

Sorry for interrupting your thoughts
Please explain more ?

(Please no “moron” stuff here ..)

Leads to completely unnecessary conflicts which can derail topics ( often)
Respectfully
Chet K

Use of batteries in series+parallel gives some .ou.

Just try to lit up an led with batteries as usual and see how long it will last. Than, double amount of batteries and connect them in series-parallel in the way described in the video and swap series with parallel at regular time interval.

In this way you will extend in an incredible way the time led will stay on. So one is charging the other that is connected to load, by swapping them at regular time interval they will recover a huge amount of what is spent. Just have a look at his other videos where you can see schematic for connections.

Cloxxki · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2023, 11:18:14 PM »

Quote from: adrouk on August 19, 2023, 08:19:43 PM

I’m not sure that I got your point.

Initial post claim 9 hours continuous use of an LED with an electronic circuit and 1 AA battery.
In the video from YT someone else has kept an LED lit up for 275 DAYS with just 6 batteries AA connected 3 series with 3 parallel (claiming it is a Tesla Switch that configuration)

I’m saying again 275 days continued usage of an LED 3.2 V 20 mA which is basically lit up with just 3 batteries AA, while the other 3 batteries charge first set in use and he just swap them regularly.

This concept charge/discharge under load needs some investigation being batteries or capacitors … and we may find out that we don’t need huge power banks off the grid or we can just cut half of it.

Indeed that man, have loads more to share free and is able to provide instructions for whatever he is teaching/ showing to public, including .FE. and .ou! And they are quite basic (embryonic stage) compared with what 7 red orbs shared earlier . He is showing diy devices with instructions at moron level.

Batteries are tricky. Are the batteries still chemically the same after, or perhaps used up in some way? I'd rather see a more inert system such as capacitors used.

adrouk · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2023, 11:50:27 PM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on August 19, 2023, 11:18:14 PM

Batteries are tricky. Are the batteries still chemically the same after, or perhaps used up in some way? I'd rather see a more inert system such as capacitors used.

You may want to ask him on his yt video, or you can experiment yourself.

But, right now I would be more interested to find out if batteries connected in series-parallel can do the same job as joule thief + 1 battery as in original post for same amount of time … it might be something really great to find.

It looks like Bedini ssg but without bemf to recover … could it be an unknown effect of an LED ? Or maybe we can replace the led with low wattage incandescent bulb and see the same behaviour of batteries connected series-parallel ? Could it be an effect that joule thief circuit mimic of what is happening with batteries ?

Could be some extra energy added by this configuration from an unknown source ?

I guess something is happening in that circuit as those batteries should be dead after 1-3 days.

Can this system of usage of batteries be used for electric vehicles that run on batteries ? Like extending their range for 1 charge ? Can we use joule thief instead if it is able to mimic the effect ?

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