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SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1545 on: December 08, 2022, 08:31:58 PM »
Hi, SolarLab!
I do not argue that the magnetic flux, even in dynamics, will be modeled very close to reality. I meant the simulation of an electric circuit and a magnetic circuit together in dynamics.
I encountered strong discrepancies between software calculation, engineering calculation systems (on paper) and reality.
Holcomb, I think it was not in vain that he complained about solving problems with reactance, when controlling the operation of magnets. I also encountered this.
Sincerely.


Hi Rakarskiy,

These "discrepancies" stem from the difference between Analytics (math formulas) and Numerics (CAE computer methods).

When professional CAE analyzes a 2D or 3D device (circuit) the CAD (Computer Aided Design) model is broken down into a huge
number of "Tetrahedra" - a.k.a. a "Mesh." A finer mesh (larger number of tetrahedra) gives a more accurate analysis but also takes
a longer time to compute.

This "mesh" engulfs the entire model, including the surrounding air or vacuum, with each type of element (air, copper, metal, etc.)
seperated by a "boundry" which accounts for the "boundry conditions" (e.g. air-copper interface and so forth). When the model's
"mesh" is solved using Maxwell's Equations (usually a matrix) all of the models characteristics, including shapes, materials and
proximities, ensure an accurate solution. 

Analytic (mathematical formulas) calculations would be near impossible to do accurately for even a modest complex device. 

For example, a distributed planar microwave layout can be analytically calculated pretty accurately but even a relatively simple
lumped element circuit (inductor, capacitor and circuit traces) can have widely varying results when done analytically. Numeric CAE
analysis of the same circuit can achieve a near exact solution (depending on mesh size) with respect to measured data.

This applies equally well to Electric and Magnetic fields in air or vacuum. 

It's rare that I have ever seen more than a 5% (usually <1%) discrepency between CAE and Measured results. Of course the model
has to be correct and the analysis set up properly with a fine mesh and small time steps!

As a bonus, for us at least, is Maxwell's Equations do not care whether the model is over unity (agnostic to conservation of energy)
- these simply give you the solved results with a variety of convient visuals, animations , graphs, charts and numbers. It's also quite
easy to vary any number of circuit parameters and observe what happens or to optimize the design. 

Non-linear characteristics of things such as the SMC ferromagnetic material's B-H Curve can also be taken into account insitu.

This is extremely important (critical) when developing an Excess Energy device.

SL 


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1546 on: December 09, 2022, 07:20:40 AM »
Dear  SolarLab!

I know what multi-way analytical calculations are, besides, at one time I was a developer of complex economic systems, where data collection was formed according to specified criteria.
I also do engineering calculations. My practice has always been based on repeatability and prediction. I adopted various calculation methods, while my methodology significantly reduced the material investment as for design.

If I say something, I know for sure. The magnetic circuit, you can very accurately calculate in dynamics, but this does not mean that you can quite accurately calculate the dimensionality of the EMF.
I will surprise you, but the EMF guidance system in the wire is very different from the one that is taught based on formula (1) [E=BLV] and the one that works in a generator and a transformer with a core, the so-called engineering transformer formula (2) [E=4.44kФNf].
I already know exactly how the static system of a transformer and a mechanical generator differ. Why Dr. Holcomb went by simulating the mechanical rotation of the magnetic poles in saturation in the stator core. The problem is solved more simply in a mechanical generator. A little more complicated with the switchable magnet system. And it's very difficult in the static system that I'm working on. By the way, I found a mistake in my modeling and got closer to a larger reality. It remains for me to check the controller system. It is definitely clear that there are two magnetic fields. There is a field in the core which is already independent. In a mechanical generator, it is enough to excite it to the maximum, taking into account the excitation source and phase current, and mechanically rotate it. In the system which I am working on, turning the flow through zero is not such an easy task as it turned out, and the first data simply baffled me.

The simple frame generator that I have discussed in this material ( https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html ) is fully consistent with general educational theory. The only thing I specified was the AMPER POWER, and confirmed that part of the electric field of the primary EMF turns into CURRENT POWER, and as a result, into the Vortex magnetic field around the conductor.
What is the difference between a slotted stator generator and a transformer? I will answer with the amplitude of the hysteresis of the magnetic field in the zone of the phase wire.

PS
Perhaps I can now describe the work of Holcomb's pocket electromagnetic generator, in any case, on my discovery of the principle, this emerges into a general methodology. It remains for me to confirm or deny this.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1547 on: December 09, 2022, 10:41:03 AM »
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The simple frame generator that I have discussed in this material ( https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html ) is fully consistent with general educational theory. The only thing I specified was the AMPER POWER, and confirmed that part of the electric field of the primary EMF turns into CURRENT POWER, and as a result, into the Vortex magnetic field around the conductor.
What is the difference between a slotted stator generator and a transformer? I will answer with the amplitude of the hysteresis of the magnetic field in the zone of the phase wire.
...
Hi rakarskiy,
Looking at Mitch's generator, you (or he) measures 10.4 Volts output and 1.3 Amperes load current for 13.5 Watts using a 3 Ohm load resistor. Appears inconsistent with Ohm's Law, doesn't it?
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1548 on: December 09, 2022, 01:57:48 PM »
I don't think Mitch got the measurements wrong. But all calculations with Ohm's law are consistent more than ever exactly.
He did not change the output voltage at idle, in any case, he did not provide me with such data.
Everything else agrees very well with applied formulas and concepts.
By the way, the concept of full power is of interest only to electricity sellers, in order to eliminate their losses in measurements in the circuit section.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/static-electromagnetic-transducer.html


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1549 on: December 09, 2022, 05:29:09 PM »
I don't think Mitch got the measurements wrong. But all calculations with Ohm's law are consistent more than ever exactly.
He did not change the output voltage at idle, in any case, he did not provide me with such data.
Everything else agrees very well with applied formulas and concepts.
By the way, the concept of full power is of interest only to electricity sellers, in order to eliminate their losses in measurements in the circuit section.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/static-electromagnetic-transducer.html

Hi rakarskiy,
The diagram indicates 1.3 Amperes for load current. Load is 3 Ohms. Ohm's Law: 1.3A * 3 Ohms = 3.9V drop across load, but I0.4V is shown as the voltmeter reading and used in your power formula. Using 1.3A * 3.9V = 5.07W, or VA, depending on pf.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1550 on: December 09, 2022, 05:51:05 PM »
Dear  SolarLab!

I know what multi-way analytical calculations are, besides, at one time I was a developer of complex economic systems, where data collection was formed according to specified criteria.
I also do engineering calculations. My practice has always been based on repeatability and prediction. I adopted various calculation methods, while my methodology significantly reduced the material investment as for design.

If I say something, I know for sure. The magnetic circuit, you can very accurately calculate in dynamics, but this does not mean that you can quite accurately calculate the dimensionality of the EMF.
I will surprise you, but the EMF guidance system in the wire is very different from the one that is taught based on formula (1) [E=BLV] and the one that works in a generator and a transformer with a core, the so-called engineering transformer formula (2) [E=4.44kФNf].
I already know exactly how the static system of a transformer and a mechanical generator differ. Why Dr. Holcomb went by simulating the mechanical rotation of the magnetic poles in saturation in the stator core. The problem is solved more simply in a mechanical generator. A little more complicated with the switchable magnet system. And it's very difficult in the static system that I'm working on. By the way, I found a mistake in my modeling and got closer to a larger reality. It remains for me to check the controller system. It is definitely clear that there are two magnetic fields. There is a field in the core which is already independent. In a mechanical generator, it is enough to excite it to the maximum, taking into account the excitation source and phase current, and mechanically rotate it. In the system which I am working on, turning the flow through zero is not such an easy task as it turned out, and the first data simply baffled me.

The simple frame generator that I have discussed in this material ( https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html ) is fully consistent with general educational theory. The only thing I specified was the AMPER POWER, and confirmed that part of the electric field of the primary EMF turns into CURRENT POWER, and as a result, into the Vortex magnetic field around the conductor.
What is the difference between a slotted stator generator and a transformer? I will answer with the amplitude of the hysteresis of the magnetic field in the zone of the phase wire.

PS
Perhaps I can now describe the work of Holcomb's pocket electromagnetic generator, in any case, on my discovery of the principle, this emerges into a general methodology. It remains for me to confirm or deny this.


Dear Rakarskiy,

It's quite obvious you either do not read my posts or simply don't understand them; which is fine since many don't.

However to clarify:

- Analytical Analysis refers to doing analysis based on mathematical formulas (e.g. E = I x R where E is Volts, I is Current
and R is Resistance) {ok, now 'ya-all' can rag on my use of caps,  :D }

- Numeric Analysis refers to doing analysis based on Computer Numerics via Computer Aided Engineering (CAE) where the
design as a whole is entered into the computer as a physical model where the model's component characteristics are specified
and the Analysis is calculated for the entire device or system.

I took the time to provide some examples, including background information, a few posts back:

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg572182/#msg572182

Fortunately I found Holcomb's Patents very clear after a few hours of study and his approach is, in my mind at least,
extremely brilliant and straight forward. My OUR forum posts presented in the "Holcomb" thread show this.

The last remaining part is finding a suitable (affordable, high performance) material.

You can complicate the theory, analysis and design if that's what you prefer; but for me there was no need to. Plus, I do not
need, nor have the desire, to try and impress anyone with my wealth of knowledge (which usually shows as just jibberish )!

Anyway - Good Luck!

SL

 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1551 on: December 09, 2022, 07:52:18 PM »
I wanted to suggest filling the gaps in Holcombe's generators with a ferrofluid.
Whatever shape the rotors and stators have...
To reduce magnetic resistance.
How this is done, for example, in some loudspeakers.
In general, Robert could being take me to his company. :)
capitalist comrades, you have not a drop of conscience.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1552 on: December 09, 2022, 11:13:31 PM »
capitalist comrades, you have not a drop of conscience.

Hahaha!  Kolbacict, you nailed it!


Jimboot, I had to quote the above.  Just struck me as too funny.  Give it a week and you can kindly remove this post.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1553 on: December 09, 2022, 11:43:30 PM »
Holcomb is building a 200KW ILPG unit… latest video from FB ..
https://fb.watch/hjsjjv33h2/

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1554 on: December 10, 2022, 01:48:06 AM »
Hello all,

It is very uncomfortable for me to make this post.  No one is a bigger fan and supporter of Holcomb Energy Systems than I.  I previously shared some of this information with Jimboot in a PM but feel increasingly that it should be shared with the general forum.

This information comes from two people I have spoken with at length who had recent hands-on demonstrations of the Holcomb In Line Power Generator (ILPG) at the HES Sarasota, FL lab.  The following conclusions come from these first hand witnesses, both of whom are in agreement with them.

1.  The ILPG which HES is planning to market does not at all resemble the generators described in their patents or patent applications.  The ILPG is identical to a fixed-rotor, slip ring motor.  It is powered by 3-phase AC mains, not by pulsed DC as are the generators described in patents and patent applications.  You can deduce this by careful study of public posts by HES.   

2.  The ILPG produces a large current gain between the input and output measuring points, verified with a current clamp meter.  This has also been publicly posted by HES.  But the witnesses conclude this current gain is an accompanied by a large phase shift in current with respect to the voltage.

3.  The ILPG does NOT produce more power than it consumes.  HES made an unwitting error, without purposeful deceit, in wiring their input and output power meters.  Because the meters show a power gain, HES is convinced it is real and are proceeding full ahead when, in fact, there is no power gain at all.

When measuring 3-phase power, the voltage probes and current transformer probes for each of the 3 lines must be properly associated when connected to the power meter.  If the voltage and current probes are shifted with respect to each other, the current and voltage phase relationships the meter sees are incorrect and the meter reads false power values. 

The witnesses surmise that HES wired the power meter voltage and current probes incorrectly in order to show a power gain commensurate with the current gain, which they otherwise could not make sense of.  The witnesses say the current gain, however, is due to its being measured inside an LC circuit, not because of an increase in power.   

4.  The ILPG can be configured to work as a power factor correcting device and reduce the electric bill in a facility with 3-phase mains that previously did not have appropriate power factor correction.  But it will not produce any excess power.

HES has been made aware of the metering error.  However, they believe the ILPG's unique properties require that the power meters' voltage and current probes should indeed be shifted with respect to one another, that the power meters should not be connected in the normal manner.  HES is convinced that unorthodox power meter wiring is correct for the ILPG.

The situation is very discouraging to me.  Both witnesses are impeccable.  A big part of me wishes they are wrong.  But I would not bet on it.  Raising further red flags, despite multiple, repeated requests, HES has yet to provide them with verification of power gain in the ILPG by an independent third party who knows how to correctly measure 3-phase power, using their own meters.

I sincerely hope HES realizes their error and reverts to their patented generator which possibly might work.  Best wishes to everyone who is trying to replicate that earlier technology! 















 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1555 on: December 10, 2022, 02:23:35 AM »
Sir
Not really a good idea to post such 3rd party anonymous hearsay .
I realize it’s a tuff place to be !
Would be much better if sir names of those involved?
And yes,
There was some mention privately a while back about concerns for proper measurement of 3 phase system ,
Caloric ( heating of water) being best foolproof method !
And then very recently a satisfied customer appeared who claimed huge benefits of system?

Here we need concern for our hosts liabilities in regard to Holcomb and effecting their reputation!


I will reach out for forum owner regarding this !
Respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1556 on: December 10, 2022, 02:47:43 AM »
 Hi Beginners Mind,

Does that mean Florida Power and Light (FPL) has a "wiring" problem in their Power Distribution,
Metering and Billing Systems as well?

Or maybe FPL simply knows nothing about "Power Factor" and it's effects on their grid. Do you
believe PF correction could actually affect an over 100% increase in VAR consumption?

Just curious! 

BTW, who are these "anonamous sources?" - We hear a lot of stuff these days from
so called "anonamous sources - unfortunately about 127% of it is BS from LARPS, TROLLS & SHILLS;
therefore I always prefer to confirm their stories and their sources.

Regards,

SL

As our good friend Brandon would say - "Come On Man!"  ;)   

BTW - the Florida Power and Light (FPL) billing data sheet with respect to the "HES" was
posted a while back or it can be found on the Holcomb Energy System web site
...

You might want to bring this data to the attention of your anonamous sources.
Then you can also include FPL in your hit piece posts as well.

But, good luck with that!

The FPL Billing Chart is below (in case you can't find it): (make sure you check the usage - kWh vs Temp)
« Last Edit: December 10, 2022, 05:55:42 AM by SolarLab »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1557 on: December 10, 2022, 07:17:20 AM »
Hi rakarskiy,
The diagram indicates 1.3 Amperes for load current. Load is 3 Ohms. Ohm's Law: 1.3A * 3 Ohms = 3.9V drop across load, but I0.4V is shown as the voltmeter reading and used in your power formula. Using 1.3A * 3.9V = 5.07W, or VA, depending on pf.
bi

Are you seriously? Why do you calculate voltage drop per section and voltage drop per power?

To everyone who is trying to figure it out, I propose to solve the energy problem:

You have a resistive load of 1 kW, a single-phase generator is connected to it at the terminals of which: the voltage is U - 220V, at a frequency of 50Hz, the resistance of the generator phase winding is 1 ohm.
It is necessary to find the emf of the generator phase. In my material for this, everything is on a living example.

Many people are confused by this task. This is a very simple task for a power engineer involved in the design and construction of generators.   This is what distinguishes knowledge of energy from general education. You need to know how the generator works with a load, and what it represents, the voltage in your outlet is 220V.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1558 on: December 10, 2022, 01:02:11 PM »
Maybe you will come forward with your real name and the real names of these "Anonymous witnesses" to see, if they really have the expertize to measure these things correctly...
Otherwise it is just an Anonymous claim and nobody will believe you...
 :o :o :o 8) 8)
Regards, Stefan. (Admin)



Hello all,

It is very uncomfortable for me to make this post.  No one is a bigger fan and supporter of Holcomb Energy Systems than I.  I previously shared some of this information with Jimboot in a PM but feel increasingly that it should be shared with the general forum.

This information comes from two people I have spoken with at length who had recent hands-on demonstrations of the Holcomb In Line Power Generator (ILPG) at the HES Sarasota, FL lab.  The following conclusions come from these first hand witnesses, both of whom are in agreement with them.

1.  The ILPG which HES is planning to market does not at all resemble the generators described in their patents or patent applications.  The ILPG is identical to a fixed-rotor, slip ring motor.  It is powered by 3-phase AC mains, not by pulsed DC as are the generators described in patents and patent applications.  You can deduce this by careful study of public posts by HES.   

2.  The ILPG produces a large current gain between the input and output measuring points, verified with a current clamp meter.  This has also been publicly posted by HES.  But the witnesses conclude this current gain is an accompanied by a large phase shift in current with respect to the voltage.

3.  The ILPG does NOT produce more power than it consumes.  HES made an unwitting error, without purposeful deceit, in wiring their input and output power meters.  Because the meters show a power gain, HES is convinced it is real and are proceeding full ahead when, in fact, there is no power gain at all.

When measuring 3-phase power, the voltage probes and current transformer probes for each of the 3 lines must be properly associated when connected to the power meter.  If the voltage and current probes are shifted with respect to each other, the current and voltage phase relationships the meter sees are incorrect and the meter reads false power values. 

The witnesses surmise that HES wired the power meter voltage and current probes incorrectly in order to show a power gain commensurate with the current gain, which they otherwise could not make sense of.  The witnesses say the current gain, however, is due to its being measured inside an LC circuit, not because of an increase in power.   

4.  The ILPG can be configured to work as a power factor correcting device and reduce the electric bill in a facility with 3-phase mains that previously did not have appropriate power factor correction.  But it will not produce any excess power.

HES has been made aware of the metering error.  However, they believe the ILPG's unique properties require that the power meters' voltage and current probes should indeed be shifted with respect to one another, that the power meters should not be connected in the normal manner.  HES is convinced that unorthodox power meter wiring is correct for the ILPG.

The situation is very discouraging to me.  Both witnesses are impeccable.  A big part of me wishes they are wrong.  But I would not bet on it.  Raising further red flags, despite multiple, repeated requests, HES has yet to provide them with verification of power gain in the ILPG by an independent third party who knows how to correctly measure 3-phase power, using their own meters.

I sincerely hope HES realizes their error and reverts to their patented generator which possibly might work.  Best wishes to everyone who is trying to replicate that earlier technology! 















 
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« Reply #1559 on: December 10, 2022, 01:35:10 PM »
There  is a famous DNV third party verification, do we really need more ?
Beside this, such systems could be tested in battery modus without the grid power...