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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121863 times)

Offline ramset

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Holcomb Energy  Systems


https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article


Mr Holcomb’s patents https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo

So it begins (How’s it do what it do …(edit) “What is the Gain mechanism “ ??)


Respectfully submitted


Chet K
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Ellen Holcomb cofounder
Just posted new Vid


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBa58s3QJE

Edit
PPS removed “where is energy coming from ( not my usual phrasing)
Replaced with above ( my usual question)






« Last Edit: March 14, 2022, 10:45:57 PM by ramset »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2022, 04:15:41 PM »
                       ' Where is the energy coming from ? '

                           view point change :

                        ' Where is the energy a. going on b.  going in ? '

                                           Volume / Weight
                             specific Volume / specific Weight
F.e. the weight from 1MWh electricity in Grams ,this Grams its Volume ?

Offline onepower

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2022, 06:34:31 PM »
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Holcomb Energy  Systems
https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article

Interesting links, apparently they have 15 years of research and patents dating back to 2009. The people in the video's can even speak fluent english, act professional and sound credible which was a nice change. This is not some redneck operation and they seem to have professional media presentations, large facilities and apparently many units already in operation. On the surface they seem credible and must have some substantial investment in play.

The patents all appear to have similar geometry dating all the way back to 2009. However the explanations of the working principals have varied over time. I find it fascinating that 15 years ago they probably stumbled onto an anomaly but have yet to understand the exact mechanisms of how it works. They also follow the standard evolution of technology starting with motional and PM systems, then no PM moving coil and then stationary coil systems. The iron atom electron spin theory is obviously a non-starter which was probably borrowed from others patents to fill in the gaps. So it appears they have followed a pattern very similar to most other inventors.

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How’s it do what it do …Where is the energy coming from ?

As is generally the case most are chasing smoke and mirrors because they don't understand what energy is. Like Holcomb they would try to use a backwards approach. So we see an anomalous increase in current, attribute it to an increased magnetic field then imagine ways this could take place like resonance, NMR or iron electron spins. However similar devices had no iron cores and supposedly worked just as well so that theory is out the window. As is often the case someone saw an anomaly, jumped to the conclusion they wanted then worked the problem backwards. This is a variation of the false cause fallacy.

At the end of the day all that was really required was some coils of wire, some switches and an understanding of energy. That's the kicker, anyone who understands energy would not ask "where it comes from" they would ask "how it was transformed". This is true because everything is energy and it doesn't come from anywhere per say. Energy cannot be created or destroyed only transformed...

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AC









Offline e2matrix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2022, 07:08:04 PM »

Awesome news!    The video on this page seems to explain it fairly well:  http://www.koreaittimes.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=111470

The video from the site above:   https://youtu.be/Nm1VJ65LcXM

Holcomb Energy Systems website:  https://holcombenergysystems.com

Considering the current world situation let's hope we all live long enough to reap the benefits of this technology...   It could obviously change everything for the better in a huge way.

This seems somewhat similar to Pierre's looped system as first mentioned here:  https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/






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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2022, 08:19:11 PM »
GIVE IT ANOTHER SIX MONTH AND VAMOOOSHE GONE WITHOUT A TRACE,
SUCKED IN BY THE EVIL TRILLION QUADRILLION DOLLARS EVIL PETROL BLACK HOLE.
 

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2022, 08:43:17 PM »
They have been in stealth mode for 15 years.   I directly wrote to them although I assume they already know about how past inventions have disappeared I let them know how it often goes and suggested ways to get things going without being 'disappeared'. 


Another video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNxBklaugpg

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2022, 09:32:41 PM »
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Another video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNxBklaugpg

What I thought is unique about there setup is how they integrated the technology into an AC motor topology. The AC motor outer stator is now the motionless rotor then they rewire the armature core as the stator. So there not reinventing the wheel simply rewiring a know commodity and adding specialized electronics. Smart setup...

Any bets on how long they will last?. It's one thing to do research but quite another to go public and start selling working technology. I hope they kick ass...

Regards
AC

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2022, 10:02:55 PM »
From one of Holcomb's patents:  - Tesla of course  ;)


The Lenz losses, as noted above, are related to inductive coupling between the rotor standing poles and the stator induced poles. Concerning efforts to reduce reverse torque, Nikola Tesla published an article entitled “Notes on an Unipolar Dynamo”, Nikola Tesla, The Electrical Engineer, N.Y. Sep. 2, 1891. Tesla reported on a modification of the Faraday Dynamo design. Tesla's design varied in two major ways:
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1. First, he used a magnet that was bigger in diameter than the disc, so that the magnet completely covered the disc.
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2. Second, he divided the disc into sections with spiral curves out from the center of the outside edge.
The Tesla modifications caused the current to make a full trip around the outside edge of the disc. Because the current is flowing in a large circle at the rim of the disc, the magnetic field created does not work against the field magnet. This modification eliminated a significant problem of electric power generation, i.e., the reaction to every action or, as is commonly called, reverse torque or back EMF.
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This design change and its effect on reverse torque was accomplished by geometric isolation of the standing pole from the induced pole of the machine. In the case of the present disclosure, the rotor is static, i.e., non-rotating, and, therefore, reverse torque is not an issue. The induced pole is induced by current flow which is generated by the standing pole. The induced pole is not responsible for current flow or power generation in the induced coils. This design change removes Lenz losses produced by the induced stator poles attracting and repelling polar coupling between the stator poles and the rotor poles.
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The solid state rotor of the present disclosure is virtually free of reverse torque due to four design changes when compared to conventional electric generators with rotating rotors:
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1. The rotor has no moving parts.
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2. The rotor does not rotate in the stator cavity.
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3. The magnetic poles rotate in proper frequency and sequence to generate the desired electric power output.
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4. The rotor can be used to retrofit any conventional generator—single-phase, two-phase, or three-phase.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2022, 10:30:51 PM »
What I thought is unique about there setup is how they integrated the technology into an AC motor topology. The AC motor outer stator is now the motionless rotor then they rewire the armature core as the stator. So there not reinventing the wheel simply rewiring a know commodity and adding specialized electronics. Smart setup...

Any bets on how long they will last?. It's one thing to do research but quite another to go public and start selling working technology. I hope they kick ass...

Regards
AC


We agree on that!   ;)


Holcomb Energy System verification report from dnv.com :

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2022, 06:47:59 PM »
I wonder how much trouble they will have getting it UL approved in the US and CA approved in Canada?

I don't know anything about Canada's CA authority, but here in the US it's a major $$ hurdle and anyone trying to manufacture it will likely have 'difficulties'.

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Offline e2matrix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2022, 07:05:30 PM »
It has been stated on their site (or was it in one of their videos) that it has already been UL approved.   


Some info from the summary of the DNV verification report:



"The HES efficiency derived from 3 test protocols was:
- 374.1% efficient
- 399.6% efficient
- 489.9% efficient


That is 4.899 units: of power output for every 1 unit of power input.


2. HES self-generating Capacity


The ability of the HES to output 4 times as much power as is required for its operation allows
a continuous self regeneration ‘loop’ of the entire system while the HES simultaneously
powers an electrical load."

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2022, 07:07:00 PM »
Hey there all,
So we have a PhD, a Dr. that was working 15 years on this. OK. Peer review should be a known term to this guy. I want a proof of concept experiment, some theory, anything.As long as i cannot see any of this i call it BS.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2022, 07:54:33 PM »
Hey there all,
So we have a PhD, a Dr. that was working 15 years on this. OK. Peer review should be a known term to this guy. I want a proof of concept experiment, some theory, anything.As long as i cannot see any of this i call it BS.


I really do understand where your coming from, i mean converting is not perpetual indeed.


Think of it this way, if we were to convert for instance the earths spin, we can do that by simply converting the earths spin so it will make the device look perpetual but is not, if were to convert more from the earth well the device will spin thanks to the earth and also do work just like the earth by converting the work from the earth but is not perpetual.


I do know this can or could work, but it needs alot of knowledge to see it through and needs much more explanation from what i said but it should be easy enough that converting the earths motion for one could work indeed.

What i am pointing out is that if the earth spins and rotates and you somehow know how to tap to convert that motion, it will work seem perpetual but no, friction will not stop it because it has that !00% friction less somewhere else in the process, so the idea is to fully convert the earths processes to give you a device that will spin and do work just like the earth ok, this can be done seem perpetual but the explation is the earths processes as to how to tap it with converting techniques, with current knowledge well it would be tricky and you need to be educated.

Thankfully the knowledge of Spintronics or the topic Spintronics can help you understand > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spintronics

If you want to buy it or not what i said, the process of taping in to convert the potential is not impossible though.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2022, 10:16:51 PM »
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I wonder how much trouble they will have getting it UL approved in the US and CA approved in Canada?

I don't know anything about Canada's CA authority, but here in the US it's a major $$ hurdle and anyone trying to manufacture it will likely have 'difficulties'.

There are a few easy solutions such as integrating known technology. The regulations revolve around the notion of doing no harm through proven concepts and technology.

For example you cannot just hook up any generator to the grid however you can tie one in through an approved grid tie device. It monitors under/over voltage, over current, phase angle and frequency to ensure it's safe. In most cases they could care less what the source of energy is so long as it is applied through an approve device *wink wink*.

So the breakers, grid tie device and transfer switch are mandatory but the source could be anything...

Regards
AC

 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2022, 07:04:00 AM »

We agree on that!   ;)


Holcomb Energy System verification report from dnv.com :

I just read the linked report.  I was seeing red flags throughout.

For starters, no instruments were used to measure phase angle.  Also, there was an "efficiency" calculation made based on how little the input power changed when the output was loaded, as if the unloaded input power was irrelevant.

The battery/cap bank 6 hr run time test with no Vdrop when looped was interesting, but any witness that would agree to AC power calculations using only V and I with no regard for phase angle probably did not fully understand what was or was not disconnected during that portion of the test (other than what he was told by HES).

It would be wonderful if true, but I will add a degree of caution to my optimism...

PW