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Title: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 14, 2022, 04:07:24 PM


Holcomb Energy  Systems


https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article (https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article)


Mr Holcomb’s patents https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo)

So it begins (How’s it do what it do …(edit) “What is the Gain mechanism “ ??)


Respectfully submitted


Chet K
Ps
Ellen Holcomb cofounder
Just posted new Vid


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBa58s3QJE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBa58s3QJE)

Edit
PPS removed “where is energy coming from ( not my usual phrasing)
Replaced with above ( my usual question)






Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 14, 2022, 04:15:41 PM
                       ' Where is the energy coming from ? '

                           view point change :

                        ' Where is the energy a. going on b.  going in ? '

                                           Volume / Weight
                             specific Volume / specific Weight
F.e. the weight from 1MWh electricity in Grams ,this Grams its Volume ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on March 14, 2022, 06:34:31 PM
Ramset
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Holcomb Energy  Systems
https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article

Interesting links, apparently they have 15 years of research and patents dating back to 2009. The people in the video's can even speak fluent english, act professional and sound credible which was a nice change. This is not some redneck operation and they seem to have professional media presentations, large facilities and apparently many units already in operation. On the surface they seem credible and must have some substantial investment in play.

The patents all appear to have similar geometry dating all the way back to 2009. However the explanations of the working principals have varied over time. I find it fascinating that 15 years ago they probably stumbled onto an anomaly but have yet to understand the exact mechanisms of how it works. They also follow the standard evolution of technology starting with motional and PM systems, then no PM moving coil and then stationary coil systems. The iron atom electron spin theory is obviously a non-starter which was probably borrowed from others patents to fill in the gaps. So it appears they have followed a pattern very similar to most other inventors.

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How’s it do what it do …Where is the energy coming from ?

As is generally the case most are chasing smoke and mirrors because they don't understand what energy is. Like Holcomb they would try to use a backwards approach. So we see an anomalous increase in current, attribute it to an increased magnetic field then imagine ways this could take place like resonance, NMR or iron electron spins. However similar devices had no iron cores and supposedly worked just as well so that theory is out the window. As is often the case someone saw an anomaly, jumped to the conclusion they wanted then worked the problem backwards. This is a variation of the false cause fallacy.

At the end of the day all that was really required was some coils of wire, some switches and an understanding of energy. That's the kicker, anyone who understands energy would not ask "where it comes from" they would ask "how it was transformed". This is true because everything is energy and it doesn't come from anywhere per say. Energy cannot be created or destroyed only transformed...

Regards
AC








Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 14, 2022, 07:08:04 PM

Awesome news!    The video on this page seems to explain it fairly well:  http://www.koreaittimes.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=111470 (http://www.koreaittimes.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=111470)

The video from the site above:   https://youtu.be/Nm1VJ65LcXM (https://youtu.be/Nm1VJ65LcXM)

Holcomb Energy Systems website:  https://holcombenergysystems.com

Considering the current world situation let's hope we all live long enough to reap the benefits of this technology...   It could obviously change everything for the better in a huge way.

This seems somewhat similar to Pierre's looped system as first mentioned here:  https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/ (https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/)





Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 14, 2022, 08:19:11 PM
GIVE IT ANOTHER SIX MONTH AND VAMOOOSHE GONE WITHOUT A TRACE,
SUCKED IN BY THE EVIL TRILLION QUADRILLION DOLLARS EVIL PETROL BLACK HOLE.
 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 14, 2022, 08:43:17 PM
They have been in stealth mode for 15 years.   I directly wrote to them although I assume they already know about how past inventions have disappeared I let them know how it often goes and suggested ways to get things going without being 'disappeared'. 


Another video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNxBklaugpg
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on March 14, 2022, 09:32:41 PM
Quote
Another video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNxBklaugpg

What I thought is unique about there setup is how they integrated the technology into an AC motor topology. The AC motor outer stator is now the motionless rotor then they rewire the armature core as the stator. So there not reinventing the wheel simply rewiring a know commodity and adding specialized electronics. Smart setup...

Any bets on how long they will last?. It's one thing to do research but quite another to go public and start selling working technology. I hope they kick ass...

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 14, 2022, 10:02:55 PM
From one of Holcomb's patents:  - Tesla of course  ;)


The Lenz losses, as noted above, are related to inductive coupling between the rotor standing poles and the stator induced poles. Concerning efforts to reduce reverse torque, Nikola Tesla published an article entitled “Notes on an Unipolar Dynamo”, Nikola Tesla, The Electrical Engineer, N.Y. Sep. 2, 1891. Tesla reported on a modification of the Faraday Dynamo design. Tesla's design varied in two major ways:
[0019]
1. First, he used a magnet that was bigger in diameter than the disc, so that the magnet completely covered the disc.
[0020]
2. Second, he divided the disc into sections with spiral curves out from the center of the outside edge.
The Tesla modifications caused the current to make a full trip around the outside edge of the disc. Because the current is flowing in a large circle at the rim of the disc, the magnetic field created does not work against the field magnet. This modification eliminated a significant problem of electric power generation, i.e., the reaction to every action or, as is commonly called, reverse torque or back EMF.
[0021]
This design change and its effect on reverse torque was accomplished by geometric isolation of the standing pole from the induced pole of the machine. In the case of the present disclosure, the rotor is static, i.e., non-rotating, and, therefore, reverse torque is not an issue. The induced pole is induced by current flow which is generated by the standing pole. The induced pole is not responsible for current flow or power generation in the induced coils. This design change removes Lenz losses produced by the induced stator poles attracting and repelling polar coupling between the stator poles and the rotor poles.
[0022]
The solid state rotor of the present disclosure is virtually free of reverse torque due to four design changes when compared to conventional electric generators with rotating rotors:
[0023]
1. The rotor has no moving parts.
[0024]
2. The rotor does not rotate in the stator cavity.
[0025]
3. The magnetic poles rotate in proper frequency and sequence to generate the desired electric power output.
[0026]
4. The rotor can be used to retrofit any conventional generator—single-phase, two-phase, or three-phase.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 14, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
What I thought is unique about there setup is how they integrated the technology into an AC motor topology. The AC motor outer stator is now the motionless rotor then they rewire the armature core as the stator. So there not reinventing the wheel simply rewiring a know commodity and adding specialized electronics. Smart setup...

Any bets on how long they will last?. It's one thing to do research but quite another to go public and start selling working technology. I hope they kick ass...

Regards
AC


We agree on that!   ;)


Holcomb Energy System verification report from dnv.com :
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on March 15, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
I wonder how much trouble they will have getting it UL approved in the US and CA approved in Canada?

I don't know anything about Canada's CA authority, but here in the US it's a major $$ hurdle and anyone trying to manufacture it will likely have 'difficulties'.

.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 15, 2022, 07:05:30 PM
It has been stated on their site (or was it in one of their videos) that it has already been UL approved.   


Some info from the summary of the DNV verification report:



"The HES efficiency derived from 3 test protocols was:
- 374.1% efficient
- 399.6% efficient
- 489.9% efficient


That is 4.899 units: of power output for every 1 unit of power input.


2. HES self-generating Capacity


The ability of the HES to output 4 times as much power as is required for its operation allows
a continuous self regeneration ‘loop’ of the entire system while the HES simultaneously
powers an electrical load."
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: tsl on March 15, 2022, 07:07:00 PM
Hey there all,
So we have a PhD, a Dr. that was working 15 years on this. OK. Peer review should be a known term to this guy. I want a proof of concept experiment, some theory, anything.As long as i cannot see any of this i call it BS.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on March 15, 2022, 07:54:33 PM
Hey there all,
So we have a PhD, a Dr. that was working 15 years on this. OK. Peer review should be a known term to this guy. I want a proof of concept experiment, some theory, anything.As long as i cannot see any of this i call it BS.


I really do understand where your coming from, i mean converting is not perpetual indeed.


Think of it this way, if we were to convert for instance the earths spin, we can do that by simply converting the earths spin so it will make the device look perpetual but is not, if were to convert more from the earth well the device will spin thanks to the earth and also do work just like the earth by converting the work from the earth but is not perpetual.


I do know this can or could work, but it needs alot of knowledge to see it through and needs much more explanation from what i said but it should be easy enough that converting the earths motion for one could work indeed.

What i am pointing out is that if the earth spins and rotates and you somehow know how to tap to convert that motion, it will work seem perpetual but no, friction will not stop it because it has that !00% friction less somewhere else in the process, so the idea is to fully convert the earths processes to give you a device that will spin and do work just like the earth ok, this can be done seem perpetual but the explation is the earths processes as to how to tap it with converting techniques, with current knowledge well it would be tricky and you need to be educated.

Thankfully the knowledge of Spintronics or the topic Spintronics can help you understand > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spintronics

If you want to buy it or not what i said, the process of taping in to convert the potential is not impossible though.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on March 15, 2022, 10:16:51 PM
Cadman
Quote
I wonder how much trouble they will have getting it UL approved in the US and CA approved in Canada?

I don't know anything about Canada's CA authority, but here in the US it's a major $$ hurdle and anyone trying to manufacture it will likely have 'difficulties'.

There are a few easy solutions such as integrating known technology. The regulations revolve around the notion of doing no harm through proven concepts and technology.

For example you cannot just hook up any generator to the grid however you can tie one in through an approved grid tie device. It monitors under/over voltage, over current, phase angle and frequency to ensure it's safe. In most cases they could care less what the source of energy is so long as it is applied through an approve device *wink wink*.

So the breakers, grid tie device and transfer switch are mandatory but the source could be anything...

Regards
AC

 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: picowatt on March 16, 2022, 07:04:00 AM

We agree on that!   ;)


Holcomb Energy System verification report from dnv.com :

I just read the linked report.  I was seeing red flags throughout.

For starters, no instruments were used to measure phase angle.  Also, there was an "efficiency" calculation made based on how little the input power changed when the output was loaded, as if the unloaded input power was irrelevant.

The battery/cap bank 6 hr run time test with no Vdrop when looped was interesting, but any witness that would agree to AC power calculations using only V and I with no regard for phase angle probably did not fully understand what was or was not disconnected during that portion of the test (other than what he was told by HES).

It would be wonderful if true, but I will add a degree of caution to my optimism...

PW
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lota on March 16, 2022, 08:43:52 AM




Hello
could it be this system?
Greeting
Lota

pierre Cotnoir dz generator part 3 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn49fDHCHdo)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 16, 2022, 10:53:34 AM
            Where is the Gain (from energy,the mechanism):
            IHS Torricelli,mentor from IHS Galileo Galilei,his ouvre
            Puy de Dome,massive central France, theory about ' vaccuo'         
     
            by Blaise Pascal ; theory before experiment : correlation ? New definition ?
            Magdeburg/today BR Deutschland Otto von Guericke demonstrations


                           ' vaccuo' and the intertemporal and interlocation need ,
                                                                prae-/suf-/fix :
                                        a et ab,de ,ex,e,in,cum et sine ,pro et prae !
                   
                                          RAUM und ZEIT DIS-/KONTINUUM

                   1 ( editoring : upps, :P : quantmeter ,wrong dimension cause this only the first,clearly: )                       cubic-quantmeter=3 D space volume  Universum its weght,by given volume : its energy content ?

  Peczo ( pedir,1 pers. Sg.,Ind,Presence,Portuguese lusophonico) por me desculpar,s'il vous plait,a votre plaisir !

cz ~ c + cedilhe

Language and MATEMATICA ( all science facultas including)  with base and tect ,living speech

Where are the Anglistik notes,the accentuation= intonation  above and below letters in daily use ,excluding 'applied ARTS' ?
Making difference between hand-writing and machine-writing ,the soul ornament ! The feels  icons,the emojs !
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 16, 2022, 03:18:53 PM
Does anyone understand this technology well enough to explain it ?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190238011A1/en?oq=20190238011
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on March 16, 2022, 06:11:13 PM
This is the patent that is more relevant to what is shown.

WO2021063522A1 A unique method of harnessing energy from the magnetic domains found in ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2021063522A1
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 16, 2022, 06:18:51 PM
This is the patent that is more relevant to what is shown.

WO2021063522A1 A unique method of harnessing energy from the magnetic domains found in ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2021063522A1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2021063522A1)


He "discovered" that  weak magnetic field is amplified by ferromagnetic material  ::)
Principle used in every transformer or electrical motor.
Basically, what I see on his videos are stators of electrical 3 phase motors and in place of squirrel cage rotor he put a coils on magnetic core.
He uses rotating magnetic field generated by 3 phase motor stator to induce electric current in stationary coil on the wound core.
Rotating field transformer isn't something new.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 16, 2022, 08:05:15 PM
Since 1995 I do espacenet R&D,beside original patent and offered e-document clearly also cited and citing documents analyzing ,to see the technical standart and/or " open source" free " claims"applications use !

#17,18 : the given patents from google :

                         similar documents lists !

A Johnsmith probably would think,after research :  ;) AHA,take me on / take on me ! ;D
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Jimboot on March 17, 2022, 03:03:25 AM


A Johnsmith probably would think,after research :  ;) AHA,take me on / take on me ! ;D
wmbr
OCWL
That's stuck in my head now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: MagnaProp on March 17, 2022, 09:07:31 AM
He "discovered" that  weak magnetic field is amplified by ferromagnetic material  ::)
...
That threw me off as well. I hope this is real and hope that explanation was dumbed-down way too much for the layman. I thought his electron spin idea was interesting until he says that it's based on metal creating a better magnetic field than plastic.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 17, 2022, 09:22:57 AM
PERMANENT MAGNET IS INVOLVED IN THE CENTER CORE BUT NOT DISCLOSED.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
PERMANENT MAGNET IS INVOLVED IN THE CENTER CORE BUT NOT DISCLOSED.
Magnet : ~  Tamagochii https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi)   WHAT IS LIFE ? The MINIMUM ,strange
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs)

                                         EINS SEIN WITH YOU ?

Entering Police Department : "A permanent magnet is  :( stalking me  ! "
                       Police agent : " ??? ,You are not the first ! :-\ It is becoming PANDEMICAL,I think so ! ??? "

How long ? per manere ? For staendig ,for ever, let us hope "anstaendig,polite" !
"For ever" : Arpad Boday shorts this "ever" to circa 1000 years ! Fine,not to long ! Fine R&D-er  ::)

                                 


Tschau
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 17, 2022, 10:22:02 AM
PERMANENT MAGNET IS INVOLVED IN THE CENTER CORE BUT NOT DISCLOSED.
What would be a reason for that PM?
He has there regular stator from 3 phase motor that is creating rotating magnetic field.
Then inside he puts anchored iron core with peculiar windings.
Rotating field transformer, nothing new here.
The only way I could see a gain is utilising a nonlinear part of magnetisation curve of iron core, not saturation part. As he "discovers"   ::)   in his patent : "weak magnetic field generated by coil aligns domains in ferromagnetic material and resultant magnetic field is greatly amplified".[/size]
Wow!
What a discovery  ::)
Flyback converters, boost converters, Joule Tchief are already doing this.
The only difference-he is utilising regular 3 phase motor body.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2022, 10:22:32 AM
He uses rotating magnetic field generated by 3 phase motor stator to induce electric current in stationary coil on the wound core.
Rotating field transformer isn't something new.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=martin+hauck&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=martin+hauck&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
A permanent magnetic rotating field transformer/translator ?
" magnetic film " time document ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=40&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960808&CC=DE&NR=19500694A1&KC=A1#
medicine : body magnetics

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=61&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19930715&CC=DE&NR=4143311A1&KC=A1#
to ring -rotating- cycle :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=64&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900816&CC=DE&NR=3939081A1&KC=A1#
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=65&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910411&CC=DE&NR=3928644A1&KC=A1#

science + fiction   or                                                   science reality

wmbr
OCWL
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990708&CC=DE&NR=19737047A1&KC=A1#

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 17, 2022, 10:26:22 AM
Magnet : ~  Tamagochii https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi)   WHAT IS LIFE ? The MINIMUM ,strange
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs)

                                         EINS SEIN WITH YOU ?

Entering Police Department : "A permanent magnet is  :( stalking me  ! "
                       Police agent : " ??? ,You are not the first ! :-\ It is becoming PANDEMICAL,I think so ! ??? "

How long ? per manere ? For staendig ,for ever, let us hope "anstaendig,polite" !
"For ever" : Arpad Boday shorts this "ever" to circa 1000 years ! Fine,not to long ! Fine R&D-er  ::)

                                 


Tschau
OCWL


I don't know what kind of powder you are sniffing, but must be a good one  ;D
Can you share contact for your dealer?


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2022, 10:32:22 AM

I don't know what kind of powder you are sniffing, but must be a good one  ;D
Can you share contact for your dealer?


Cheers,
Pix
Special Ones : Angel Dust  ;)
                       Dark Matter  ;)
Tschau,Tschau
OCWL :)

p.s.: related Arpad Boday
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970921&CC=CA&NR=2172240A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970921&CC=CA&NR=2172240A1&KC=A1#)
The "description" is horrible - given -, I recommend to read and analyze the "original document" sides !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=CA&NR=2172240A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19970921&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=CA&NR=2172240A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19970921&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

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                            YOU,Pix,DO NOT,visible - living emphaizeable- taking and giving : without barrier/frontiers  !
                            You write a.pix b.Pix : why the difference,do YOU know : WHY ?

                           
                                   p (https://overunity.com/profile/pix.6551/)ix (https://overunity.com/profile/pix.6551/) entered : 2007 as Newbie  now,2022:   Sr. Member     

                                                               Cheers, Pix                                                             

                                                     (Be-)Cause from Newbie(Junior) now Senior membership ? ;D pP

                            Like chet, probably it would be an help : R.A.M.-set  and R.O.M.-set combination,and using !
                                        Before doing ,"outing/writting" ,conversation with wrong REQUIREMENTS !

                                                                          "ROHRKREPIERER"-risc !

                                                                             SIMPLE MIND(s)

 #24 "Tamagotchi" ITS OPERATION,with rechargeable battery/capacitor,life-time in years,decades,...
The Tamagotchi "processor" as permanent electric/electret/magnet/magnetret generator " Laplacesche Daemon Operator" ,chance/risc ?
Isaak Asimov ' robotics laws' : by 0/1 condition,by -1/0/1 condition : self-organizing ,
                                                                BY ≤ -1/-1/0/1/≥ 1 conditioning !?

                                                 WHAT DEMANDS IN IT ?   WHO DEMANDS IN IT ?

                                                                    SIMPLE QUESTIONS !?
                                                                    SIMPLE ANSWER :  ......... ! 

                                               By FATHER + MOTHER NATURE EMPATHY


                                                 " ......    Do n(o)t ( You) forget about me  ..... "
                                                                           REMANESCENCA
                                                                Tit For Tat ,Bio-/Nature Analytics


Some have "pets" at home ,un-/wished,non/buyed/ :
dogs,cats,mices(japonese dance mouse),rats(punky!) , birds,terrarium anima-ls,aquarium anima-ls,.....
Screen saver neuronal anima-ls

In our individual human "body-home" the micro-cosmos : bacilles,viro-..., Mikro-Lebewesen/Kreaturen
How much % ,or in Kg,from each human,animal,plant body without the Geruest/Statik/Skelett "soft core" part making ?

How do we treat them ? How do they treat US,the individual ' ME" ?
The " perpetuum"+ " mobile" artificial : how many from above animals their anima/BEING we do not/want ?
LIFE and TRANS-/FORMATION : con-/struction and de-/struction

Drinking : " pipi" Eating: " koko" Breathing : CO2,CH4,...... TRANS-/AS-PIRATION: snoring,halitosis,body odor

       Uterus,"Fruchtwasser" :

baby ? :  " Fruchtwasser ? kloake ! Anti-Genfer Konvention ABCD...- tools Inneneinrichtung !" Zum TOTZEN !

NO ! The Tamagotchi does not "pipi,koko,gas emission,......" forming like real humans and animals do !
                Plants ? Fungi ? FERMENTATION ! Degradation,interchange !?

                                                      Aesthetik and STERILITY ?!
EVER YOUNG,the mind - the body - the soul ( the battle scar,folds and wrinkles )
OMG,NOW - at last- fully ripe : for the 'box,coffin,insane institute,..." !     

Dante Aligheri !
To " Living al(l)egro" ,com toda a alegria im-/possibile : mind language and mind 2 reality : sans frontier/s

Dark Matter ? " MS-DOS or COBOL ..." from the Universum !? Licence free to use ,by " .... " ,Not the TM-version !

Informatics-question : an -1/0/1 AI neuronal/Notoric and motoral/Motoric free system in an EPROM installed :Storage capacity need ? Steady ? Growing capacity demands ?

PC-Virus,'Trojaner' analysis and experience !?  M.I.T. Media LAB  !?
Living Numbers ,Living Letters


Humans and

Mon Key ,Monkey,3/4 temple monkies

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproduction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproduction)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_psychology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_psychology)

Monkeies
"Sea Monkeies"  ,Urzeittierchen       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea-Monkeys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea-Monkeys)
              https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/medien/yps-ist-wieder-da-das-desaster-mit-den-urzeitkrebsen/7280888.html (https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/medien/yps-ist-wieder-da-das-desaster-mit-den-urzeitkrebsen/7280888.html)

Dirac/Moray "Sea-Monkies"             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea)

                         Vater-/Mutter-Tier/Zwitter         father-/mother- animal/hermaphrodite

                        Ei-Keim/Sperma-Keim GROESSE ?!  Egg germ/sperm germ SIZE ?!                               

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea#/media/File:Dirac_sea.svg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea#/media/File:Dirac_sea.svg)                   

                               Dirac sea for a massive particle.  •  particles,  •  antiparticles
                                      Dirac sea                                    + "no particles" = a. will be b. was "format"


        https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19580826&CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19580826&CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A#)
https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/gesellschaft/panorama/hiroshima-ein-opfer-bricht-sein-schweigen/1897420.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/gesellschaft/panorama/hiroshima-ein-opfer-bricht-sein-schweigen/1897420.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


                                                                  to be or "not to be"
                                                                      Un-/Certainty
                                                     Re-/Search tool (sub-)quanto-scopie
 

Kind of powder ? Selbst-beantwortend,oder nicht ? ;D   sub-plasmon

                                                                                      =   formon  ;)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontemplation (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontemplation)              see and be seen
                                                                                   hear and be heared
                                                                                   ......         ................
                                                                               

                                            https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesen_(Philosophie (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesen_(Philosophie))
                                                   ANTI-GOTT/                .                    /GOTT
                                                                     

GOTT IST MUTTER,GOTT IST VATER,GOTT IST TOCHTER,GOTT IST SOHN,GOTT IST ALLES ,GOTT IST ]    [  ,  GOTT IST {  },GOTT IST SYNTAX
                                                                       DU BIST ERROR (?)

                                                                              GOTT IST
                                                                                 }   {
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 17, 2022, 02:14:07 PM
Seems there may be some “New” theories about this operating principle ?
Some written here ( in topic ) https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98034;topicseen#msg98034 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98034;topicseen#msg98034)


Others being discussed between builders and researchers
Unrelated to those “New theories”,
  I have read a suggestion here ( this thread) on Pierre device …however.. as mentioned prior ( in his thread’s here )
A few who worked for years on Pierre device had no success ( except sore fingers from fabrication..and hair loss from ripping it out between changes and build upgrades….
Maybe a few head bruises from wall banging …. (all the times it failed to work as advertised )


I will ask Pierre builders that I am aware of …again …as it seems another video from a Pierre replicator (or himself ?)
Has been posted few months back ?


Also Will try to get a moderated builders board going on this H.E.S.…so more focused discussion can take place !
and persons (possible replicators and vetting sleuths) don’t have to read or listen or view so much unrelated info !
No stone left unturned!
*Member F6FLT collating H.E.S Data here ( also asking questions to community?


http://exvacuo.free.fr/Sciences/NewEnergy/Holcomb/ (http://exvacuo.free.fr/Sciences/NewEnergy/Holcomb/)


Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Yes discussion towards all possibilities (vetting too)
PPS
The open source community has enormous resources,not the least of which
are qualified people ..with vast and varied education and experience, and now more than ever, the time is right
For change !
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: shiraellis on March 17, 2022, 02:31:43 PM
https://www.expertmarketresearch.com/reports/microwave-devices-market (https://www.expertmarketresearch.com/reports/microwave-devices-market)

The growth of the global microwave devices market is driven by rising military & defense expenditure, growing need for secure and fast communications, and rising demand for microwave devices in patient monitoring. The rising penetration of 5G and IoT infrastructure, miniaturization of devices, soaring need for effective and non-radioactive patient treatments, and technological breakthroughs in microwave equipment pertaining to the materials used is expected to attract lucrative opportunities for market.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 17, 2022, 07:15:17 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 20, 2022, 01:43:08 PM
Dearest screaming fisherman , yes I know you have great zeal for this cause ( most here do)
Perhaps some offers or gratuities could be done via PM ?
—///
Here Jimboot posted a patent ( not necessarily solid State)
From last year
https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331)
Others are studying all relevant patents and applications  from claimant,
Which were Posted here and elsewhere !
Comments also here https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98108;topicseen#msg98108 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98108;topicseen#msg98108)
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Please try to keep thread on topic
It is ok if topic sits while investigation continues
No need to fill with ??
Trying not to have to move to moderated board


However if a build is started, it will go to a dedicated builders board


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Paul-R on March 21, 2022, 12:23:00 AM

Please try to keep thread on topic

I'm glad to see your concern but you might start by giving the poster of #30 above a Yellow Card for advertising and delete the message.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2022, 01:20:17 AM
I'm glad to see your concern but you might start by giving the poster of #30 above a Yellow Card for advertising and delete the message.
From a "silly Ire "? shiraellis (https://overunity.com/profile/shiraellis.108516/) ,retro reading,

 the advertise "information content "  I would couple with http://padrak.com/vesperman/ (http://padrak.com/vesperman/) !
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world :

# 17,18,19 : related "Weiss-sche Domaene" ,Domaene~ Bezirk

https://www-magnet--shop-net.translate.goog/lexikon/weisssche-bezirke?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-magnet--shop-net.translate.goog/lexikon/weisssche-bezirke?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
direct R&D relationship :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=UNIV+OKAYAMA+NAT+UNIV+CORP&IN=naoshi+ikeda&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=UNIV+OKAYAMA+NAT+UNIV+CORP&IN=naoshi+ikeda&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

and Astro-/hyper-physics "black/white wormhole" (A.Einstein,Stefan-Boltzmann) referring

https://www-futurezone-de.translate.goog/science/article229657042/im-kampf-zwischen-wurmloch-und-schwarzem-loch-das-ist-der-gewinner.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-futurezone-de.translate.goog/science/article229657042/im-kampf-zwischen-wurmloch-und-schwarzem-loch-das-ist-der-gewinner.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

and MICRO-/NANO-Cosmos (channel,tube; later toroid/donut : 

  Kekulé DREAM   https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/4a23fa0d-b836-463c-ac93-4af8dd753795/mcontent.jpg (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/4a23fa0d-b836-463c-ac93-4af8dd753795/mcontent.jpg) )

https://www.chf.de/benzolring/benzolring201501.pdf (https://www.chf.de/benzolring/benzolring201501.pdf)

"Let's learn to dream, gentlemen, then find we maybe the truth, but let us beware of our dreams publish before they through the alert mind has been tested are!" 


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=magnetic+diode (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=magnetic+diode)
https://physicsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Magnetic-diode-635x345.png (https://physicsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Magnetic-diode-635x345.png)


wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2022, 07:31:30 AM
Dearest screaming fisherman , yes I know you have great zeal for this cause ( most here do)
Perhaps some offers or gratuities could be done via PM ?
—///
Here Jimboot posted a patent ( not necessarily solid State)
From last year
https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331)
Others are studying all relevant patents and applications  from claimant,
Which were Posted here and elsewhere !
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Hello , chet and re-/searcher,some inputs :

Relevant :
german inventor/applicant  Wolfgang Hagedorn


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=wolfgang+hagedorn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=wolfgang+hagedorn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

to https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331)  a synonym/synchron idea/concept to refind DE3804440

also special attention :
               DE8901215

"a real physiologic ( ~ resonance point selforganizing) dynamo" :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960411&CC=DE&NR=4434834A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960411&CC=DE&NR=4434834A1&KC=A1#)

with perfect motor and perfect generator a perfect Eta/C.O.P. > 1 :   ROTOVERTER or rotative transformer/converter
                                                                                                                  FREE ENERGY CONVERTER with Eta > 1
https://www.chemie.de/lexikon/Wirkungsgrad.html (https://www.chemie.de/lexikon/Wirkungsgrad.html)

  https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Energy_conversion_efficiency.html (https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Energy_conversion_efficiency.html)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eta (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eta) 
https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Eta?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Eta?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)     
                                                            
   Success "in dreaming" and realizing wishing                                                                                                    
                                 
   OCWL                                                                                                         
all things :              https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate)  R&D  8)
                                                                                                                              WHE  :-* ENTER´TAINMENT
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Comments also here https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98108;topicseen#msg98108 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98108;topicseen#msg98108)Respectfully Chet K
Ps
Please try to keep thread on topic
It is ok if topic sits while investigation continues
No need to fill with ??
Trying not to have to move to moderated board


However if a build is started, it will go to a dedicated builders board

#30 : OMG in Mundart/-Dichtung/-Lyric G~ IoT   ergo OMIoT (: " O mei Ijodt,mei Jeses,mei Alles " ) o solo mio
                                                         
                                                                                                OMI :)
 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 21, 2022, 07:58:58 AM
Found this online from couple of years ago:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/6kk7aa/holcomb_scientific_research_llc_scam/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/6kk7aa/holcomb_scientific_research_llc_scam/)


Be careful. If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 21, 2022, 10:07:58 AM
Found this online from couple of years ago:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/6kk7aa/holcomb_scientific_research_llc_scam/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/6kk7aa/holcomb_scientific_research_llc_scam/)


Be careful. If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is...


I told you guys.
This is just regular 3 phase motor stator ,inside that guy inserted  ferromagnetic core with windings. Typical rotating Field transformer. No OU herę. And what makes me laugh is his patent statement that he "Discovers" that a weak magnetic Field is amplified by ferromagnetic materiał 🙂.       Cheers, Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 21, 2022, 04:11:52 PM
Really?   You think Reddit is proof of a scam?   Maybe you didn't read far enough in that Reddit thread... From one poster in that thread:


"Ahh, someone else bored and wanting to cause trouble. When you're on track to succeed and do something that can benefit large numbers of people who need it, the detractors and bottom-feeders come crawling out of the muck.[/font][/size]If this were a legitimate issue, the original question would not have been posted on reddit, but somewhere with some credibility. Seriously??[/font][/color]
Let me tell you something, trolls. I have known Dr. Holcomb for nearly 50 years. Much longer than anyone here, I'd say, certainly longer than those of you spewing this jealousy-covered garbage. I have watched him dedicate his entire adult life to serving/healing others, frequently at great risk to himself. I was there when he created the MagnaBloc, and have personally benefited greatly from what it can do. When you create something that good, there are always others lined up to take it from you (private individuals, not the company Amway). I've watched him spend countless sleepless hours developing and perfecting the technology that has gone into this generator. I have never in my life met a more selfless individual. You, however, seem more concerned about speculating and slinging mud at a good man who is trying to help people, than getting up off your worthless hides and doing something to leave the world a better place than you found it.[/font][/color]
I don't know all the reasons for the things that he and Holcomb Scientific Research do. I don't care. I am not the science/business mind here. I don't have to know all the inner workings of this project to know that it's a good thing. Just as I don't understand all the reasons for why my mechanic does what he does, but I don't have to know. It's none of my business. All I have to do is trust that my car gets fixed. I don't care if HSR operates out of tent in the middle of the jungle, as if that mattered. If you were as sharp as you pretend to be, you would understand that. As an investor in HSR myself, I had enough sense to understand there are risks in any investment, trust the people behind this (and there are many), and chose to go ahead.[/font][/color]
I don't know who said this, but it is applicable here - "It is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Some of you should have kept your mouth shut. Have a nice day."[/font][/color]
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 21, 2022, 04:37:10 PM
Lanca
As you may be aware ..there are builders at all skill levels here !(and diverse languages etc)


Here we hunt for just one anomaly


Instead of posting unproven hunches ( many patents with no …meat/understanding with the potatoes) or intimating unknown knowledge ( you possess or ?)


One paragraph will suffice, well written and to the point ( no I cannot write this !:(


What is your preferred language ( origin)
Would you engage with professor of similar origin
To write the paragraph?


No need for song or dance
The world has no more time for fiddling….


Billions of persons without such luxury !!


Please ?
This is an offer to cut to the chase and waste no more time !
Respectfully
Chet K




Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on March 21, 2022, 07:23:36 PM
e2matrix
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"Ahh, someone else bored and wanting to cause trouble. When you're on track to succeed and do something that can benefit large numbers of people who need it, the detractors and bottom-feeders come crawling out of the muck.

Indeed, many seem to have an interest in distracting or taking away from any conversation on FE technology.

I find it strange that almost nobody even wants to take a crack at explaining how it could work. Isn't that what this forum is all about?, having a rational debate about how it could work so we can learn and move forward?...

AC

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 21, 2022, 09:49:04 PM
I have read through the main patent (actually most of them are very similar).


There is nothing in there that explains how it works. It's got some Tesla references in it, but no real physics explanation of where the energy is coming from and how it is accessed. It looks like it is all guess work. Actually, this thing looks very much like Pierre Cotnoir's device. That one appeared to work from his videos, but also no real explanation of how it works, just guesses. After the original was burned out, no one has been able to replicate it, not even Pierre himself.


You might as well check these guys out:


https://triadlimited.com/


At least they state they don't know how it works, but it just works.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2022, 10:06:07 PM
I have read through the main patent (actually most of them are very similar).


There is nothing in there that explains how it works. It's got some Tesla references in it, but no real physics explanation of where the energy is coming from and how it is accessed. It looks like it is all guess work. Actually, this thing looks very much like Pierre Cotnoir's device. That one appeared to work from his videos, but also no real explanation of how it works, just guesses. After the original was burned out, no one has been able to replicate it, not even Pierre himself.


You might as well check these guys out:


https://triadlimited.com/ (https://triadlimited.com/)


At least they state they don't know how it works, but it just works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation)  ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations)
          Caution : Maxwell/Lorentz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Maxwell%27s_equations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Maxwell%27s_equations)

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Physikalische_Gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fe?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Physikalische_Gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fe?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Internationales_Gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fensystem?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Internationales_Gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fensystem?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

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A good question of this system is how a particle such as a photon traveling at the speed of light could be further accelerated as it passed through this crystal. The answer to that question could be that the crystal accelerator provides an energy gain from its strong nuclear forces to the particles which shows up as an increase of their effective mass. Another answer is that the energy law E=Mc@2 is changed when radiant energy units are subjected to certain forces such as the nuclear forces in the crystal. The speed of light is no longer limited and it conforms to the new equation E=McX. The value of X in the crystal approaches 3.times.10@20 meters per second.

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                                                      Das Wort Psychologie stammt vom griechischem Wort psyché ab, was übersetzt "Seele" bedeutet.
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 22, 2022, 07:43:20 AM
Tesla explains a thing or two.


Read this article first:


https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/notes-on-a-unipolar-dynamo-the-electrical-engineer-sept-2-1891/ (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/notes-on-a-unipolar-dynamo-the-electrical-engineer-sept-2-1891/)


Tesla talks about how to change Faraday's homopolar generator such that the currents that are generated in the disc will re-inforce the magnetic field of the external magnet.


He even says


 "From this we see that the eddy currents flowing in the disc partly energize the field, and for this reason when the field current is interrupted the currents in the disc will continue to flow, and the field magnet will lose its strength with comparative slowness and may even retain a certain strength as long as the rotation of the disc is continued."


In other words, you could have a self-sustaining rotating disc if the current generated is used to turn the disc. The rotating disc then generates a current which produces sufficient magnetic field to sustain itself (no external magnets needed). This is probably the same principle upon which everything in the universe rotates as well (self-sustaining).


Then read this patent https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/67/d4/82/571078104931ec/US20190393765A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/67/d4/82/571078104931ec/US20190393765A1.pdf) section 19, excerpted below:


[ 0019 ] In conventional generators , as noted above , the rotor is stationed inside the coil loops of the stator . There fore , the rotor generates a current which in turn generates a magnetic field which is equal in force and opposite in polarity , hence reverse torque is a product of the design . The Lenz losses are related to inductive coupling between the rotor standing poles and the stator induced poles . Concerning efforts to reduce reverse torque , Nikola Tesla published an article entitled “ Notes on an Unipolar Dynamo ” , Nikola Tesla , The Electrical Engineer , N.Y. Sep. 2 , 1891. Tesla reported upon a modification of the Faraday Dynamo design . The design varied in two major ways :
[ 0020 ] 1. First , he used a magnet that was bigger in diameter than the disc , so that the magnet completely covered the disc .
[ 0021 ] 2. Second , he divided the disc into sections with spiral curves out from the center of the outside edge .
[ 0022 ] The Tesla modification caused the current to make a full trip around the outside edge of the disc . Because the current is flowing in a large circle at the rim of the disc , the magnetic field created does not work against the inducing / standing pole . This modification eliminated a significant problem of electric power generation , i.e. , the reaction to every action or , as is commonly called , reverse torque or back EMF .


Looks like a pretty simple principle to get rid of BEMF (invented by Tesla).


To be continued...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on March 22, 2022, 07:05:35 PM
I mentioned this elsewhere and it may be relevant as to why it works:
"I wonder if they are using Metglas cores since they mention "electrical steel".  Metglas is what Tom Bearden used in his "MEG" that claimed an overunity of five.   See this site:  https://metglas.com/distribution-transformer-electrical-steel/ (https://metglas.com/distribution-transformer-electrical-steel/) "
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 22, 2022, 07:16:37 PM
@pmgr
All true , but how this would apply for Holcomb?
Tesla did modified homopolar generator, where you have stationary magnetic field and rotating disc.
The only thing Tesla did was enlarging stationary magnet to cover whole rotating disc ( better efficiency) and cut disc into sections , avoiding circular currents because the only current path we are looking is fron disc centre outwards. Tesla was perfectionist.
In Holcomb we have rotating magnetic field ( from 3 phase motor armature)and some exotic explanations regarding unpaired electrons inside ferromagnetic material.
What striked me most is his "discovery"  that ferromagnetic material amplifies weak magnetic field acting upon it.
Primary school pupil is teached about it.
This rings a warning bell in my head about Holcomb.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 23, 2022, 08:38:09 AM
Please read the attached European patent application from 2019 which on page 8 describes the mechanism for the excess energy.


The summary of it is as follows:


He uses rotor coils to align the magnetic domains inside of the electrical steel and he says that the energy required to do this is little. The generated magnetic flux from the aligned domains is however much stronger (and carries much more energy) than what was required to polarize the magnetic domains into the right orientation (e.g. a north or a south pole).


The stator then converts this strong magnetic flux into a voltage/current that can be used to power a load and part of the stator output can be fed back to the rotor driving electronics to provide the little energy that was required to align the magnetic domains to either a north or south pole.


So basically he is saying, he is magnetizing electrical steel to form a north or south pole and this north/south pole, once formed, can provide more magnetic flux than the flux of the current that was required to align the magnetic domains.


Any physicists that can shed some light on whether this is possible? From everything I know, it takes energy to magnetize a piece of steel and to demagnetize it or flip the magnetic domains in the other direction. I have never seen a piece of steel being magnetized and the magnetic strength being larger than the magnetic field that was generated by the current that magnetized the steel.


And if this were really the case, why don't we see this with a regular transformer? Also, there should still be BEMF from the stator coils working back onto the rotor coils, just like in a transformer. Maybe after the rotor current is switched off, the steel will remain magnetized for a short period of time, but the BEMF from the stator coils would oppose that magnetization and try to flip the magnetic domains in the other direction.


Please post your thoughts...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 11:16:25 AM

So basically he is saying, he is magnetizing electrical steel to form a north or south pole and this north/south pole, once formed, can provide more magnetic flux than the flux of the current that was required to align the magnetic domains.


Any physicists that can shed some light on whether this is possible? From everything I know, it takes energy to magnetize a piece of steel and to demagnetize it or flip the magnetic domains in the other direction. I have never seen a piece of steel being magnetized and the magnetic strength being larger than the magnetic field that was generated by the current that magnetized the steel.


And if this were really the case, why don't we see this with a regular transformer? Also, there should still be BEMF from the stator coils working back onto the rotor coils, just like in a transformer. Maybe after the rotor current is switched off, the steel will remain magnetized for a short period of time, but the BEMF from the stator coils would oppose that magnetization and try to flip the magnetic domains in the other direction.



 ::) ?
Those kind of things you should hear in primary and secondary school at physics lessons.
1. It is well known that ferromagnetic materials greatly amplify magnetic field acting upon them. It is called magnetic relative permeability.  Please see attached magnetising curve of soft ferromagnetic material.
2. As you could see on this graph, first part of it, vertical is nonlinear and a weak external magnetic field 0.1-0.2mT creates a strong response inside ferromagnetic material 1000-1500mT. Further to the right magnetization line is going more horizontal- this is called "saturation" area. Increase of external magnetic field causes less amplified response from the ferromagnetic material. This "saturation" region is a place where common transformer works.
3.Relative Permeability of certain magnetic material gives you amplification  of applied external magnetic field. For example for an iron core it is 200, for a permalloy it is 8000, for mumetal it is 20000.
4. Magnetic field amplification by ferromagnetic materials , or "gain" is  widely utilised everywhere: in electromagnetic solenoids, in Current Transformers, in Flyback and Boost converters ect.


So, my friend. Holcomb didn't invent anything new. This is a basic physics knowledge at least from a two centuries.


Ferromagnetism (gsu.edu) (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html)
Magnetic Properties of Solids (gsu.edu) (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Tables/magprop.html#c2)


Cheers,
pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on March 23, 2022, 03:05:26 PM
No, Holcomb didn’t invent magnetic field gain. If he’s for real then what he has invented is a way to utilize the magnetic gain without reflecting the load back to the primary windings.

I’ve spent this last winter experimenting with gain from magnetic flux. I can tell you this much, gain can be had by avoiding counter emf (Lenz) produced by secondary windings during the magnetization phase of the core primary windings. Ordinary transformers and ordinary generators do not do this.

Cadman
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 03:56:09 PM
No, Holcomb didn’t invent magnetic field gain. If he’s for real then what he has invented is a way to utilize the magnetic gain without reflecting the load back to the primary windings.

I’ve spent this last winter experimenting with gain from magnetic flux. I can tell you this much, gain can be had by avoiding counter emf (Lenz) produced by secondary windings during the magnetization phase of the core primary windings. Ordinary transformers and ordinary generators do not do this.

Cadman
Who is saying that transformers or generators are doing this?

Flyback converter is doing this.
Boost converter is doing this.
Joule Tchief is doing this .
Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 04:56:17 PM
Who is saying that transformers or generators are doing this?

Flyback converter is doing this.
Boost converter is doing this.
Joule Tchief is doing this .
Cheers,
Pix
        Pix                                                        compared                            Cadman

Flyback,Boost,Joule thief   machine         versus                      ordinary/conventional,standart machine


% sell quote from all  converters                                                 % sell quote from all converters



Newbie versus professional technical standart,industrial and or lab R&D  view and meaning !?

wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on March 23, 2022, 04:57:32 PM
Who is saying that transformers or generators are doing this?
I said ordinary transformers or generators are not doing this

Quote
Flyback converter is doing this.
Boost converter is doing this.
Joule Tchief is doing this .
Cheers,
Pix
Are they? Completely? Think carefully before answering.

And while you think about it, ask yourself if this was really the most salient point in my previous post.

Cheers to you too.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 05:18:31 PM
Cadman,does He not shake the " principles of thermodynamic building " to write about
" energy is  ..... "

" energy is not ..... "

expand-/compress -

multification-/diminuation -

                                                                able ! (?)  8) ,if ......   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmQhEuDIhy0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmQhEuDIhy0)  CONDITION/-ING !

Sincerely
OCWL
p.s. :  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)

                                         pseudo conductor  superconductor ultraconductor   hyperconductor

Without proper cooling the efficiency and reliability of these transformers and motors are considerably reduced.

Another object of this invention is to provide a cooler operating high power electrical device that is of light weight, low cost, higher power density, and highly efficient design.

    These and other objectives are obtained by placing thermal conductive strips between the turn layers along the axis and perpendicular to the turns of an high power electrical device, such as a transformer or motor, which extends outside of the windings or between the laminates of the core.
The excess heat is conducted outward from the interior of the device along the strips to the outside of the device's windings where it is extracted from the protrusions by means of a highly thermal-conductive potting compound that has a short thermal path to a small heat sink.
"........   an anisotropec material that is highly efficient in conducting heat along the fiber orientation which is unidirectional.  .....

" ...... This invention allows for the reduction in size of a high power transformers by a factor of 4 to 8 and a reduction in weight by a factor of 4 to 6, and an increase in power density by 5 to 10 in power. The efficiency of the transformer is improved by maximizing the heat transfer from the transformers interior and minimizing voltage breakdown. ...... "


" ........ therefore a control device such as a timer (not shown) or thermal switch (not shown) may be integrated into the transformer 20 package to either increase the thermal conductivity or decrease it by switching the thermocooler on or off, as desired.  ...... "
Although this embodiment has been described in relation to an exemplary device such as a transformer, the claimed invention may equally well be utilized in other types of electrical devices where internal heat is a problem, such as motors, modulation transformers, etc. The size of the transformer is not of concern, it may vary from a small transformer used in switching power supplies to power transformers used in electrical distribution systems. Further, the frequency of the electrical current within the devices to be cooled is irrelevant, e.g., 60 cycles to 400 cycles operate the same thermally. High frequency transformers have higher copper losses due to skin effects. This additional heat may also be removed by the thermally conductive strip as set forth in this invention.

    When applied to electrical motors 30, as shown in FIG. 5a, pieces of thermally conductive strip 16 are placed between windings of the motor 30 or interleaved into vertically stacked motor laminations 32, as shown in FIG. 5b. The internal heat from the motor laminations 32 and windings 36 is conducted from the interior of the motor 30 to the outer portions where the heat is then dissipated through the motor case 34 to ambient atmosphere.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
-               https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_law
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 05:29:26 PM
Hello to All,


With all due respect about your expertise on Magnetic Fields and Induction-Induced Fields...


You keep pounding on existing -up to now- Technologies...and yes, Dr Holcomb keeps repeating something we all know...about Steel Properties related to  magnetism amplification...yes, We all know that.


IMHO what He has reached is a way to rotate a DC MAGNETIC FIELD, NOT an AC Field which is rotating just by turning it ON...


HOWEVER, the way an AC Magnetic Field "rotates" is completely DIFFERENT from a Rotating DC Magnetic Field.


And so, actually, an AC Field does NOT actually, physically rotates, but only "Flashes" N-S at a rate of 60 to 50 Hertz...generating the spinning feeling if we insert a metal "Egg" or a Laminated Steel Rotor, it will definitively spin a steel mass. (Tesla Induction AC Motors, 1896-98)


There are many inventors who have played with this scenario of "VIRTUALLY SPINNING DC FIELDS"...I have been also conducting experiments related to this way to induce an Electric Output by Rotating DC Fields...for many years back...


Figuera, back in the early 1900's had Patented his way to achieve this...


Steve Marks, has also played with this...


And many many more...


If You go to this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1VJ65LcXM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1VJ65LcXM)


At exactly 0:45 on...you will see an animation of what Dr Holcomb has achieved...a Rotating DC Magnetic Field...including a GRADIENT (Fade IN, Fade OUT) of the Magnetic Fields...


This can be done whether by mechanical commutating controls or by Electronics...FET's...with atenuation circuits to achieve the Fade Effect...


AC Rotating Magnetic Fields will NEVER, EVER, generate this effect...much less, the Fade Effect, Plus the OVERLAPPING Effect.


A simple example of a typical DC Exciter BUT actually moving physically the Magnetic Fields, we can see in a simple Single Phase Brushless Generator...where the Inducing Rotor is comprised by a CLOSED CIRCUIT (Closed by TWO DIODES) of just TWO COILS , generating a North and a South Pole at 180º...and having another CLOSED CIRCUIT COILS at Stator (with an AC Running Capacitor), exclusively to keep Inducing the Exciter Coils at Rotor...


Now, Diodes are there to convert the Induced AC into DC Current at Rotor, which keeps a steady NS-NS polarization of rotor steel core.


This Rotor will not generate nada, if we take off the diodes...just because it would be AC Flashes of magnetic polarization...not inducing nada at Output Stator Coils.


So, what I believe Dr Holcomb has achieved is a way to rotate the DC MAGNETIC FIELDS, with GRADIENT EFFECT, without PHYSICALLY moving the Steel Rotor itself...


Again, I will repeat myself...many has published his findings before...but no one has been able to replicate it...and there must be a specific type of DC Controllers behind these Patents, not explained at all...which are the "secret" behind these disclosed "Breakthrough Invention"...


I am pretty sure, there has to exist another Patent, somewhere, protecting this KEY device, and maybe not even under his name...and not even related to "Energy Induced Generation"...but simply "A New or Novel Type of DC Controller"...




Those are my Two cents here...




Regards to All.




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 05:42:04 PM
I can tell you this much, gain can be had by avoiding counter emf (Lenz) produced by secondary windings during the magnetization phase of the core primary windings[/size]


That's exactly what flyback converter is doing  :)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 05:43:51 PM
Hello again,


Any typical generation of electricity, will require a Delta Flux over a Delta Time, or a Variation of Flux over Time in order to work...
(Faraday Induction Formula), look at it again...


Over generations we have tried to figure out a way to "cheat" this formula...by "virtually" rotating the "Invisible" Magnetic Fields alone, without moving the Steel Core nor the Coils from the Rotor...


And also simulating the "Fade Effect" of approximation as moving further away of just the Magnetic Fields...which is in charge to Induce a very smooth AC Sine Wave at Output...


We all know, the day we achieve this scenario...well, this is it...we will have Free Energy.


Unfortunately, Dr Holcomb is not sharing how he achieves this Virtual Spinning of the DC Magnetic Fields...He just explains "the Theory", and , well,  we all know it could be done...for many years, but no one has been able to reproduce it, so far.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 06:14:42 PM
@Ufopolitics
3 phase sinusoidal signal creates rotating DC field.


Space vectors of 3-phase sinusoidal signals (umn.edu) (http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/spacevecmovie.html)
Three-phase space vectors (umn.edu) (http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/spacevectors.html)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 06:49:18 PM

Quote
...3 phase sinusoidal signal creates rotating DC field.



@Pix,


Sorry, Nope, you are not generating a true rotating DC Magnetic Field.


In order to generate a True Rotating DC Magnetic Field (note I was referring here to Magnetic Field, and not referring to a DC Electric Field!!


First, to get a DC Magnetic Field we need a FLAT Positive or Negative Wave on Scope...then a smooth up or down slope to simulate the Fade Effect at leave and approach.


It looks like a chopped (Flat on Top) Pyramid...then it needs to be alternating between Positive side and Negative side...


So, No, AC Sinewave will never generate a DC Magnetic Field, just because it does not stays Flat whether pos or neg, so, the DC Magnetic Field does not get to generate...


I have been playing with this for decades...


I hope you understand what am referring to, without storming this Thread too much...as I  got "plenty" of proof...related to what I'm talking about...and nope, it is not "conventional knowledge" that you could find "online"...




Cheers




Ufopolitics








Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 06:53:46 PM
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@Pix,


Sorry, Nope, you are not generating a true rotating DC Magnetic Field.


In order to generate a True Rotating DC Magnetic Field (note I was referring here to Magnetic Field, and not referring to a DC Electric Field!!

Ufopolitics


You are saying that in 3 phase electric motor it is DC electric field rotating?  :o
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 06:58:16 PM

You are saying that in 3 phase electric motor it is DC electric field rotating?  :o
;D https://overunity.com/19040/permanent-magnet-assisted-motor-coil-designs/msg564903/#new

                                   #113                      DC to AC to RC  ;)
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 06:58:58 PM

You are saying that in 3 phase electric motor it is DC electric field rotating?  :o


In a 3 Phase Electric INDUCTION Motor, we are getting THREE FLASHES of Three Magnetic Fields over a specific (Fraction of) time, if you freeze your Scope frame at One Point in Time.


That is what is called a ROTATING AC MAGNETIC FIELD...but NOT a DC Magnetic Field.


And you don't need 3 phase...it will also do it with single  phase...Duh!!




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 07:03:41 PM
@Pix,


Please answer this question...if you know it.


In a Brushless AC Generator (or could also be a Brushed old type) what Magnetic Field is utilized in the ROTOR to Induce the Stator Output Fields?


1- Is it an AC Magnetic Field?
2- Is it a DC Magnetic Field?




Easy, bro, is either 1 or 2...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 07:08:25 PM
         DC to AC to RC ,

        RC = a.Round Current or/and  b. Radiant Current or/and Wireless Current and/or Radio Current
                      TELE- ........,TRANS-.........


        Air Core converter technology,f.e .     
        From/to outside con-/in-/trans-/roto-/ verter  emitting/receiving energy,radiant energy !

        One specific,less observed current kind : DREHSTROM ~ Three phase current ,in geral ( to ≥3 = poly phase )

        Where "simple machines" becomes " capacitive machines" !

        Sincerely

        OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 07:11:17 PM



And you don't need 3 phase...it will also do it with single  phase...Duh!!
Ufopolitics
In a single phase electric motor to create rotating magnetic field you have to use SECOND winding at 90 deg with a capacitor. 
Capacitor creates a phase shift, which in turn creates virtual rotating field.
Similiar way like in 3 phase motor.
As I said before, in both cases resultant is rotating CONSTANT magnetic field.
INTENSITY of resultant  ROTATING magnetic field is CONSTANT.
So, it is a DC magnetic field ROTATING.
Please, do not question mathematical facts.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 07:19:46 PM
In a single phase electric motor to create rotating magnetic field you have to use SECOND winding at 90 deg with a capacitor. 
Capacitor creates a phase shift, which in turn creates virtual rotating field.
Similiar way like in 3 phase motor.
As I said before, in both cases resultant is rotating CONSTANT magnetic field.
INTENSITY of resultant  ROTATING magnetic field is CONSTANT.
So, it is a DC magnetic field ROTATING.
Please, do not question mathematical facts.
Pix,pix
Your 1 phase motor in combination WITH 1 phase generator  : O2 parallel resonant circuits,but as 2in1
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
@Pix,


Please answer this question...if you know it.


In a Brushless AC Generator (or could also be a Brushed old type) what Magnetic Field is utilized in the ROTOR to Induce the Stator Output Fields?


1- Is it an AC Magnetic Field?
2- Is it a DC Magnetic Field?




Easy, bro, is either 1 or 2...




Cheers




Ufopolitics


Answer is simple- it is rotating DC magnetic field. 
And voltage of generator is regulated by AVR, which is increasing or decreasing DC current to the rotor windings.
In brushless generator we ROTATE  physically rotor, that's why a DC current is in use to create magnetic field.


To create a rotating DC magnetic field without physical rotation- we use a clever trick invented a long time ago by Mr. Nicola Tesla, and used in every induction motor today.  :D
So please, don't look for some exotic things when you have all answers under your nose.


Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 07:22:14 PM
In a single phase electric motor to create rotating magnetic field you have to use SECOND winding at 90 deg with a capacitor. 
Capacitor creates a phase shift, which in turn creates virtual rotating field.
Similiar way like in 3 phase motor.
As I said before, in both cases resultant is rotating CONSTANT magnetic field.
INTENSITY of resultant  ROTATING magnetic field is CONSTANT.
So, it is a DC magnetic field ROTATING.
Please, do not question mathematical facts.




@Pix,


Why You keep citing "AC Electric Motors"??!!


We are referring here to Power Generation,  or AC Generators, not to Electrical to Mechanical Generation...apples and Bananas, Bro...


Can you answer my question on my previous post?




Thanks




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 07:23:30 PM
Pix,pix
Your 1 phase motor in combination WITH 1 phase generator  : O2 parallel resonant circuits,but as 2in1


Sorry lancaIV, but I have trouble getting you.
I have had to take the same stuff you are taking  ;)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 07:26:39 PM
http://www.rexresearch.com/alxandr/alexandr.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/alxandr/alexandr.htm) compact "the stuff" explained   ;D
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3913004A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3913004A/en)
Cited By (8)
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Oh Mann,oh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9VBMBS3qE  ::)
Tschau
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 07:30:30 PM

Answer is simple- it is rotating DC magnetic field. 
And voltage of generator is regulated by AVR, which is increasing or decreasing DC current to the rotor windings.
In brushless generator we ROTATE  physically rotor, that's why a DC current is in use to create magnetic field.


To create a rotating DC magnetic field without physical rotation- we use a clever trick invented a long time ago by Mr. Nicola Tesla, and used in every induction motor today.  :D
So please, don't look for some exotic things when you have all answers under your nose.


Regards,
Pix




Great!!...


You have said it...it is a DC Magnetic Field, NOT an AC Magnetic Field...and it is being fed as a Continuous Plus and Minus (+/-) input to rotor coils, NOT AC!!

With an AC Magnetic Field as the "Inducer" in absolutely ANY Generator in our Planet...you will get zero output at Stator Field Coils!!

...And Nikola Tesla Induction Motor is based on Rotating AC Magnetic Fields...NOT DC Magnetic Fields.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 23, 2022, 07:31:10 PM



@Pix,


Why You keep citing "AC Electric Motors"??!!


We are referring here to Power Generation,  or AC Generators, not to Electrical to Mechanical Generation...apples and Bananas, Bro...


Can you answer my question on my previous post?

Thanks
Ufopolitics
1. AC Electric motor- alternating current (driven) electric motor. That is a proper name of induction motor, isn't it? You want me to name it "AC magnetic motor"? Never seen such  naming in literature.  :o
2. I already answered your question in my previous post.
I am really tired trying to explain a basic stuff.
If you choose to belive there is something extraordinary in Holcomb patents- please feel free.
I am out.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 07:37:20 PM
http://www.rexresearch.com/alxandr/alexandr.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/alxandr/alexandr.htm) compact "the stuff" explained   ;D
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3913004A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3913004A/en)
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 07:54:50 PM

Hello,

I have already explained my take on what I believe these Patents shown here are based on, in my Posts #53 and #55...
And are based on Dr Holcomb Animations shown on the video and timing I have cited prior...plus reading his Patents.



And so, if you Pix, believe there is no difference between a DC Magnetic Field and an AC Magnetic Field, just "standing there", not even rotating...then that is just your own opinion...which differs with mine.


So, I say, Nope, they are NOT the same thing at all!!


Much less when they are set in a continuous loop of steel...whether a Generator Core or a Toroidal Core.


It is like speaking about two completely opposed things.


And as I have said before...


All ELECTRIC GENERATORS (Not Motors) in our entire Planet, are excited, Induced by DC Magnetic Field Coil(s)...hence fed by a DC Current signal.


And again, that is my take, period




Cheers




Ufopolitics


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 08:12:36 PM
A very simple way to explain AC versus DC Magnetic Fields...raw and very obvious knowledge...

"Polarity of generated magnetic field in an electromagnet depends on the direction of the current.
Alternating current changes direction 50 or 60 times per second, and the average direction is zero. Resulting average magnetic field is zero. Not very useful for most magnetic applications.


Btw, this explanation is a gross oversimplification, but close enough for illustrative purposes."

Cheers




Ufopolitics



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 09:01:26 PM
A very simple way to explain AC versus DC Magnetic Fields...raw and very obvious knowledge...
      IMHK :  In MY HUMBLE KNOWLEDGE

"Polarity of generated magnetic field in an electromagnet depends on the direction of the current.
Alternating current changes direction 50       or  60      times per second,                                                            if 50 Hz or 60 Hz ( can be KHz,MHz,...) ,                                                     
     by Hz = 2 signals min. and max. pointing, per seconds and the average direction is zero.   
From " Magnetic Power Factor ZERO" average view ,by MPF -1/0/1 scale min/max.                 
        Resulting average magnetic field is zero. Not very useful for most magnetic applications.https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/power-factor-formula (https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/power-factor-formula)



                                                           Power kinds caution !
Btw, this explanation is a gross oversimplification  ;) , but close enough for illustrative purposes."
Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 09:20:19 PM


The hertz (Hz) is the unit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_measurement) of frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency) in the International System of Units (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units) (SI) and is defined as one cycle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_(unit)) per second (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second) . The hertz is an SI derived unit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_derived_unit) whose expression in terms of SI base units (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_base_unit), meaning that one hertz is the reciprocal of one second

from : Hertz reciprocal of Time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz)


So, "60 Hertz is equal to 60 cycles/seconds"


Reciprocal meaning:

re·cip·ro·cal
/rəˈsiprək(ə)l/


Mathematics

MATHEMATICS
(of a quantity or function) related to another so that their product is one.


MATHEMATICS
a mathematical expression or function so related to another that their product is one; the quantity obtained by dividing the number one by a given quantity.

"the compressibility is the reciprocal of the bulk modulus"
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 09:24:31 PM
Learn to become polylingual ! And to re-/act polydirectional !

Btw : ten years back ,the same theme related :
https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/15/ (https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/15/)   ;D

                                     extraordinary statement : #77

                               « Reply #77 on: March 07, 2012, 12:14:43 AM

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                                    Reply # 94 and # 95 and #98
https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/dlattach/attach/111744/image// (https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/dlattach/attach/111744/image//)

Gute Besserung
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 23, 2022, 09:35:25 PM
Hi Ufo,
An induction motor (say a 3-phase, 60 Hz 2-pole machine) will operate as a generator quite well if driven above 3600 RPM. This is well known and often used. There is no DC feed and no diodes or commutator or other means to convert AC to DC.

Thanks to Tesla (the guy, not car co.), we know a method in which the 3- phase stator windings are placed such that when excited by a sinusoidal 3-phase alternating current produces a constant magnitude (and polarity) flux wave which travels (rotates) around the air gap at synchronous speed (line frequency/pole pairs).
bi

ps.
Look it up. I think it can be found in all EE textbooks, at least all I've seen, which is more than a few.

Edit.
https://youtu.be/8XF-11MQGQ0

Short simple explanation video.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 09:38:53 PM
#77 :

"  .....  An induction motor (say a 3-phase, 60 Hz 2-pole machine) will operate as a generator quite well if driven above 3600 RPM.  ... "

                                                                 Yes and No !

AC motor  rated RPM dependent ,to become by higher RPMs an alternator function !

Difference attention : a. DC motor ccw and cw constructive ,

                                  b. AC induction motor ccw or cw constructive  ,

                                  c. universal motor


https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/90/ (https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/90/)
                                 gyulasuns´s its/his # 97 input

https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/dlattach/attach/111771/image// (https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/dlattach/attach/111771/image//)
                             
https://overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/dlattach/attach/111773/image//

wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on March 23, 2022, 09:55:19 PM

That's exactly what flyback converter is doing  :)

Hook your scope up to one and pulse it with DC. Then come back and tell me there is never any counter emf with the primary induction in the secondary. :)

Cadman
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 10:02:32 PM
                                                        -1                  0              1
                                                    BEMF                                 EMF

                    theme                                     Power Factor                         mono-phase circuit / tri phase circuit / poly phase circuit

                                                                          ::)
                               https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/power-factor-formula (https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/power-factor-formula)
                                                                     Feedback !?

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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 23, 2022, 10:04:55 PM
Hi Ufo,
An induction motor (say a 3-phase, 60 Hz 2-pole machine) will operate as a generator quite well if driven above 3600 RPM. This is well known and often used. There is no DC feed and no diodes or commutator or other means to convert AC to DC.

Thanks to Tesla (the guy, not car co.), we know a method in which the 3- phase stator windings are placed such that when excited by a sinusoidal 3-phase alternating current produces a constant magnitude (and polarity) flux wave which travels (rotates) around the air gap at synchronous speed (line frequency/pole pairs).
bi

ps.
Look it up. I think it can be found in all EE textbooks, at least all I've seen, which is more than a few.


Hi Bistander,


As you've written "it could be used"...
Plus have to be a "Two Pole Rotor"...why?
In order that those two Poles eventually magnetize as a N-S...right?


I also know that, however, it is not how a conventional Three Phase Generator works.


Otherwise I could also cite here that I can use a permanent magnet motor as a generator ..lol


And yes I know stator windings are also spaced at 120° apart, just like in a 3 phase generator...


You very well know, that in Conventional Power Generation Systems, the Exciter Coils are converted into DC to give a constant magnetic field polarization.


Anyways, point here was about my view on these Patents, not about "another class" about magnetic induction...




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 10:19:49 PM
                        Geben WIR dem gesuchtem Kinde den Namen :
                                            AC CONDUCTION motor
         or                               AC CONDUCTION CURRENT motor

         =                               AC    DISPLACEMENT CURRENT motor

         or                              AC    BLIND CURRENT                   motor

         or                              AC    WATT-FREE                          motor

                       https://www.quantumstudy.com/physics/electromagnetic-waves-2/ (https://www.quantumstudy.com/physics/electromagnetic-waves-2/)

                                        q.e.e.         quod  erat explanandum
                                   
       btw :                                   1 Hz = 2 pulses or 2 signals

       the controle tool called                  Pulse With Modulation  ,shortly MODULATOR,by Laplace theorem " Operator"
     
                                                                      AM  Amplitude Modulation
                                                                      FM  Frequency Modulation
                                                                     ? M         ?          Modulation    ? = DUTY  ::) dis-/continuum  ;)
      more : https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=kanarev+pulse+power (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=kanarev+pulse+power)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 23, 2022, 10:43:02 PM

Hi Bistander,
...
Plus have to be a "Two Pole Rotor"...why?
...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Ufo,
No. I was speaking about squirrel cage induction motors like what are most commonly used. So the number of rotor poles is the same as the stator pole count. And the generator operation is valid for  4-pole, 6-pole or any # of poles machine. The synchronous speed will vary with pole count. I just used 2-pole, 60Hz and 3600 RPM as an example to keep it short. Please look it up.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2022, 10:54:23 PM
#83 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor
3 Induction motor
3.1 Slip
3.2 Polyphase cage rotor
3.3 Polyphase wound rotor
3.4 Two-phase servo motor
3.5 Single-phase induction motor
3.5.1 Shaded-pole motor
3.5.2 Split-phase motor
3.5.2.1 Capacitor start motor
3.5.2.2 Resistance start motor
3.5.2.3 Permanent-split capacitor motor



4 Synchronous motor
4.1 Polyphase synchronous motor
4.2 Single-phase synchronous motor
4.3 Hysteresis synchronous motor

5 Other AC motor types
5.1 Universal motor and series wound motor
5.2 Repulsion motor
5.3 Exterior rotor
5.4 Sliding rotor motor
5.5 Electronically commutated motor
5.6 Watthour-meter motor
5.7 Slow-speed synchronous timing motor

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 23, 2022, 11:36:11 PM
Some hands on and ?
By Partzman post # 91 here
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98187;topicseen#msg98187 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4259.msg98187;topicseen#msg98187)


Will probably bump a builders board here soon , for build related discussions
And experiment suggestions !
Respectfully submitted
Chet K
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 24, 2022, 02:05:02 AM

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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 24, 2022, 02:22:46 PM
Lanca
If we could harvest FE by the ton ( based on post content ) ??


Hand waving is nice to keep cool sometimes?
…Dictionary of unreplicated links .. nice for by the ton info …


PLEASE ??


One well written paragraph will suffice  ( I wrote before …an offer to work with professor in your native tongue)
Variables for errors in translation and intent … can statistically take several lifetimes to sort out !


PLEASE
??
Let’s flip the noise to signal ratio , for those who truly need the help !


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
To lota question at Partzman topic
Seems a builder board will happen later today (here )
And schematics and other , will surely be a part !
Partzman and Smudge are moderators at that topic board here !


PPS
Who posted monster that made page so long here ?
Need sneakers to run back and forth reading text ?


Edit: to add partzman schematic !
From post 91 below

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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 24, 2022, 02:34:27 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 24, 2022, 02:46:26 PM
Ok Ladies and Gentlemen...


RE: Dr Holcomb Breakthrough



I have researched directly into the USPTO Patent Applications Database...which is the FULL Patent App...including all images and FULL Descriptions, basically about the Application Number 20190238011
Which is about a Non Moving Rotor, as what "moves" are the Virtual Magnetic Fields...


SOLID STATE MULTI-POLE AND UNI-POLE ELECTRIC GENERATOR ROTOR FOR AC/DC ELECTRIC GENERATORS (https://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220190238011%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20190238011&RS=DN/20190238011)


So, I was completely right, about what I have mentioned on my previous Post#53...


Dr Holcomb uses an ELECTRONIC SWITCHING SYSTEM based on MOSFET Gating Circuit, plus a Programmable Logic Control (PLC) System, Excitation Board, fed by Batteries and a Control Board...which is in charge to send the ALTERNATE AND SEQUENCED EXCITATION SIGNALS to INDEPENDENT COILS in each Slot of the Basic Rotor Core.


These Alternate Signals excite by groups of Four Coils on one end, to another four coils in the opposite end of rotor...and so on it will jump from the first coil of the 1,2,3,4 to do 2,3,4,5, then 3,4,5,6...while same takes place at 180º following a rotation sequencing.


Like I have mentioned before, Dr Holcomb uses a DC EXCITED VIRTUAL ROTATION OF DC MAGNETIC FIELDS which acts as the INDUCER of the outer "Stator", which could be single phase, two phase, or three phase....


The Justia Patents site cited here on first page, first post by Ramset does not show the Full Patent App Images...and without images, at least for me, it is almost impossible to understand the whole deal.


Here I will just post Image #23 from App, where it shows the main wiring Diagram to Rotor and all the Exciter and Control Board circuitry...so you have an idea of the basic Invention.




#23 Image shows the basic wiring of a Rotor consisting of 16 poles to the Controller Components (Output Stator is not shown here) what you see contouring Rotor are just the way it is wired to each Chanel from a total of Eight ( 8) Chanels.




@Ramset: Yes, definitively We will need a Builder's MODERATED THREAD, as there is too much NOISE here!!...for any serious builders to communicate in a cleaner, more reliable fashion... ;D


We do not need any "Naysayers, any Skeptics, any BS of ANY KIND, please...and so We could go deeper into this Patents....which, let me say...are NOT that easy to understand even though they are presented here in clear descriptions plus Graphics that are easy to interpret (for those skilled in the Arts, of course)


I want to also add an apology to Dr Holcomb for saying prior that He was not disclosing the Controllers for his patents....as they are all here in detail.






Respectfully






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 24, 2022, 04:41:50 PM
Here is the Explanation to previous FIG #23:


FIG. 23 is a diagram which depicts an exemplary four-pole rotor 91 along with its excitation circuit, consistent with embodiments of the present disclosure. The four pole rotor wound salient pole #1 in each group is connected to a MOSFET circuit from an excitation system in control panel 72. The wound salient poles are grouped into four magnetic pole groups, including group #1 (poles 1-4), group #2 (poles 5-8), group #3 (poles 9-12) and group #4 (poles 13-16). The poles are excited as follows: Pole 1 of group #1 is a first polarity and pole 1 of group #2 is a second polarity. Pole 1 of group #3 is a first polarity and pole 1 of group #4 is a second polarity. Pole 1 of each group is excited by a common channel #1 (CH1) of a solid state excitation system housed in control panel 72. Pole 2 of each group is excited by an exciter board channel #2 (CH2). Pole 3 of each group is excited by an exciter board channel #3 (CH3), and pole 4 of each group is excited by an exciter board channel #4 (CH4). The power to excite the salient poles is taken from battery 36 through conductors 35 into exciter system 34. The control signals for the exciter system are sent from PLC 32 through conductors 33. Commands to PLC 32 are generated in control panel 72. The poles are excited through conductors 37 and 38. The pole ads 39, 40, 41, and 42 are connected to conductors 38 in appropriate locations. This numbering scheme is representative for all poles 1-16. Pole 1 of each group is excited and, for example, 2.084 milliseconds later, pole 2 of each group is excited; and for example, 2.804 milliseconds later, pole 3 is excited; and for example, 2.084 milliseconds later, pole 4 is excited; and, for example, 2.084 milliseconds later, pole 1 is excited again but in a second polarity, and the cycle repeats continuously. The pole circuits are excited with a first polarity DC power in the first half cycle and a second polarity DC power in the second half cycle. The first and second half cycle makes up one AC power cycle every 16.667 milliseconds in the case of 60 Hz electric power. Appropriate adjustments are made in the control system for other frequencies such as 50 Hz electric power. For 60 Hz power each pole is excited, for example 4.167 milliseconds with, for example, a 4.167 millisecond collapse time for the magnetic salient pole iron. The excitation wave progresses clockwise with the magnetic flux of each pole being distorted in a clockwise fashion by the previous like magnetic pole. Therefore the discrete rotor pole made up of four salient pole pieces at any one point in time progresses clockwise due to the repelling flux of the preceding salient pole. This in effect constantly pushes discrete separated magnetic poles in a clockwise circular fashion at the desired frequency. The poles are separated and alternate first polarity and second polarity. The four discrete magnetic poles continue to rotate without physical rotation of the rotor member itself.




Also, in FIG # 53 (Loaded here) We can see a part of Circuit dedicated to a POLE SWITCHING BOARD


As in FIG # 54 is the Circuit dedicated to EXCITATION BOARD


Explanation of FIG 53 & 54:


FIG. 53 is a depiction of an exemplary circuit diagram of PLC circuit and pole switching circuits, consistent with embodiments of the present disclosure. FIG. 54 is a depiction of an exemplary circuit diagram revealing circuits of a rotor excitation system and an interaction with PLC and pole switching circuits, consistent with embodiments of the present disclosure. These two figures will be explained together.[0199] The programmable electronic logic gating system of the present disclosure allows sequencing of the alternating salient magnetic poles of the system. The system is diagrammatically presented in FIGS. 53 and 54. Upon receiving a signal from a frequency generator, such as a sensor wheel 240 or a solid-state frequency generator, the circuit in FIG. 53 generates a DC rotor excitation pulse. The circuit in FIG. 54 receives the pulse generated in the circuit in FIG. 53 for gating the north-south salient poles of the rotor. In the case of a 4-pole, 60 Hz generator, the cycle is 16.667 milliseconds or one 180.degree. rotation with a half cycle 8.333 milliseconds north and 8.333 milliseconds south. In the case of the rotating sensor wheel, 90.degree. equates to 8.333 milliseconds, 180.degree. equates to 16.667 milliseconds and 67.5.degree. equates to 6.250 milliseconds.[0200] The exemplary MOSFET PLC system allows sequencing of the alternating salient magnetic poles of the embodiments of the present disclosure. The sequencing for each pole is described herein. The excitation cycle for each salient pole through a complete north/south cycle is controlled by two channels of the PLC. The sensor wheel 240 in FIG. 53 rotates at 1800 rpm in the case of a 3-phase four pole 60 Hz generator. The sensor wheel may be replaced by a frequency generator set at 1800 signals per minute or other appropriate speeds. The sensor wheel opening passes through the sensor 241 and a signal is generated when the system is turned on by the on/off switch 236 of a HMI (Human Machine Interface). The DC pulsed signal is sent to the first and second channels of PLC 239 through conduit 242. PLC CH1 controls the signal to the excitation board through conduits 244 and 243. PLC CH2 controls the signal to the pole switching board through conduits 231 and 245.[0201] The excitation is transmitted to the excitation board and enters the circuit through contact block 277 (FIG. 54). The signals control MOSFET gates 272 and 269. The MOSFET gates 272 and 269 have 12+ volts, for example, of DC power current on them constantly to maintain the gates closed. The default position for these gates is open. The PLC CH1 and CH2 turn the DC current off of the MOSFET for 135.degree. and 180.degree., for example, of rotation respectively at 1800 rpm of signal speed and allows the gate to open for 135.degree. of rotation in the case of CH1 and 180.degree. of rotation in CH2 which allows current to be routed in the case of CH1 through conduits 279 and 273 to contact block 278. Contact block 278 has four contact points referred to here as contacts C#1, C#2, A#1 and A#2. Jumper connections connect contact C#1 block 278 to contact 213 on the pole switching board. Jumper connections connect contact A#1 block 278 to contact 214 on pole switching board. Jumper connections connect contact A#2 block 278 to contact 215 on pole switching board. Jumper connections connect contact C#2 block 278 to contact 216 on pole switching board. These circuits provide a timed alternating pulse of DC, current (for example, 20 volts and 6 amps) to the two sides of pole switching board. PLC channel #2 sends signal to MOSFET gates 209 and 225 on pole switching board to open for 180.degree. through conduit 245 to the first side and 231 to the second side.




Cheers...it is not that complicated... ;D



Ufopolitics


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 24, 2022, 09:00:02 PM
@Ufopolitics et al


Some points I would like to make:


1. The driver circuits that are in that particular patent are nothing special as far as I can tell (correct me if I am wrong). It's a simple bidirectional coil driver (similar to what a bidirectional motor driver looks like). Nevertheless, from his patents (and I have read all of the most relevant ones now) it appears Holcom doesn't understand where his excess energy is coming from, repeatedly stating electron spin in electrical steel, high permittivity etc as the explanation. That is not the cause, as we know it takes energy (B*H which is the area under the hysteresis curve) to magnetize and demagnetize material and there is no gain in that). But maybe he states that because he really doesn't know and probably had to give some explanation in the patent (after all he is not an electrical engineer; I believe was a medical doctor in the past). Looking at how detailed his patents are, I don't believe he is deliberately steering someone in the wrong direction.


2. If you take a look at the old Pierre Cotnoir's DZ generator threads, you will see Pierre was using a similar scheme of a rotating magnetic field generated by DC currents, but with relays instead of FETs. Although Pierre's device seemed to work from his videos, nobody has been able to replicate it.


3. I believe that the reason that Holcombs device works is because he has found a way to circumvent BEMF from coupling back into the rotor driving coils. I am not so sure if he actually understands that that is what he has done as he keeps on stating no BEMF because the rotor is fixed, but that's not the reason why it works. The reason it works is because the BEMF is diverted and doesn't make its way back to the driving coils. I will need to confirm what I think is happening with some calculations to be 100% sure, but based on what I can picture in my head so far, it should work that way.


Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 24, 2022, 09:51:03 PM


Pmgr
Quote
Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR
End quote


Sir
When a builder ( man or woman) takes the time and all associated personal costs
To share their work ,it can try the best of persons to endure “noise” at the build site (thread)!


It might be a good idea to have a general topic alongside the build topic ( for noise and even theorists etc etc
It has been my experience that those builders with deeper knowledge… who actually decide to build … have done all the
Vetting and diligence to their own satisfaction !


However, the beauty of working open source leads to a larger talent footprint
And typically that can be amazing if nurtured ( polite , respectful etc etc environment)


So for clarity
no biting ..closed fist punches, nothing below the belt
Definitely no eye gouging…..


All kidding aside
Respectful discussions must always be the standard we strive to !


Gonna be interesting indeed !
Here is one topic which will hopefully start soon( link below) !
Perhaps _this _ thread can be the general  non builder discussion thread ? ( this unmoderated thread I am typing in now)


https://overunity.com/19074/builders-investigation-into-things-that-spin-with-gain-and-other/msg564943/#new (https://overunity.com/19074/builders-investigation-into-things-that-spin-with-gain-and-other/msg564943/#new)


Respectfully
Chet K









Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 24, 2022, 10:04:18 PM
@Ufopolitics et al


Some points I would like to make:


1. The driver circuits that are in that particular patent are nothing special as far as I can tell (correct me if I am wrong). It's a simple bidirectional coil driver (similar to what a bidirectional motor driver looks like). Nevertheless, from his patents (and I have read all of the most relevant ones now) it appears Holcom doesn't understand where his excess energy is coming from, repeatedly stating electron spin in electrical steel, high permittivity etc as the explanation. That is not the cause, as we know it takes energy (B*H which is the area under the hysteresis curve) to magnetize and demagnetize material and there is no gain in that). But maybe he states that because he really doesn't know and probably had to give some explanation in the patent (after all he is not an electrical engineer; I believe was a medical doctor in the past). Looking at how detailed his patents are, I don't believe he is deliberately steering someone in the wrong direction.


2. If you take a look at the old Pierre Cotnoir's DZ generator threads, you will see Pierre was using a similar scheme of a rotating magnetic field generated by DC currents, but with relays instead of FETs. Although Pierre's device seemed to work from his videos, nobody has been able to replicate it.


3. I believe that the reason that Holcombs device works is because he has found a way to circumvent BEMF from coupling back into the rotor driving coils. I am not so sure if he actually understands that that is what he has done as he keeps on stating no BEMF because the rotor is fixed, but that's not the reason why it works. The reason it works is because the BEMF is diverted and doesn't make its way back to the driving coils. I will need to confirm what I think is happening with some calculations to be 100% sure, but based on what I can picture in my head so far, it should work that way.


Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR


Hello PmgR,


Well, I have being working (not full time though) on this same theory for a few years back...and the basic downfall of this kind of systems is when we accelerate the fields rotation...at least that is where I noticed some failure...but, I was using a similar type of driver as Clemente Figuera did on his 1908 Patent...
The failure being that fields do get to the desired speed, but Induced Voltage will drop as Amperage will rise above Input, in many amps above unity.
I have built two drivers, of which the second one I have not being able to test it....just because I was going to mount all coils in a Toroidal Core...I got the core(s), got the wire but never wound them...


The second driver I have built does not rotates DC Magnetic Fields but it reverses Field Polarization with the same +/- feed...and driven by a small dc motor...which onlky uses like 12V and milliamps.


This reversal scenario I was trying to mimic what takes place at high speed in a Generator Rotor...We get "Flashes" of fully developed fields which reverses every certain angle...mine was set to do it at 180º, just like a typical two pole house generator.


Anyways, I agree as I disagree that driver is just a bidirectional motor drive...maybe for just one chanel...but eight chanels?
Plus all this FET's are base driven by a PLC or Programable Logic Circuit, which gets the commands from a Control Panel...so, IMO it is not just a simple Motor driver...


As I have mentioned before...the failure here is at higher speeds...and reading the patent you see it is very well detailed at specific On and Off timings at the milliseconds ratings...which makes it very precise due to the accuracy of its micro processors in the logic controls...


Unfortunately I never got to watch the Pierre Cotnoir videos...as He took them all off by now...


I believe, that once we get these machines running, Lenz will not apply here...since there is no steel mass rotation present...and about BEMF, maybe you are right...and because it is diverged it also do not work here...


One thing that caught my attention about this patent...are the way the rotor core is wound...not overlapping coils, but winding each pole independent from the other...just like a BLDC Motor, I guess that is  a more effective way when it comes to faster on-off fields or reversing their polarity...


In general speaking...related to Dr Holcomb, not being an Engineer...well, I believe while he was designing his therapy magnetic equipments...He stomped into a phenomena, along with his team of engineers developing this machines...and it worked.


In History we can find a couple of doctors, who made incredible discoveries...some were seized...others mysteriously dissapeared...Dr Rife (Cancer Cure) and the other one that used also some magnetic frequencies through some copper rings machine to heal his patients...do not remember his name now...sorry.




Cheers




Ufopolitics



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 12:50:15 AM
Holcombs explanation


https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf (https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf)





Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 12:59:10 AM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 01:00:02 AM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 25, 2022, 02:21:07 AM
"By eliminating reverse torque, the Holcomb Energy System generates significantly more
power output than is required to operate the system. This allows the HES to recycle a portion
of that power output through a standard capacitor/battery interface in a self-regenerating
fashion, while simultaneously powering an electrical load. "

"In the Holcomb Energy System, the rotating armature/rotor of the standard electric power
generator has been replaced with a static rotor mechanism constructed of multiple
electromagnetic pole pieces which are sequenced by a computer excitation system and
solid-state relays. The poles are sequenced such that in the case of the 3-phase, 50 Hz
generator, 4 distinct alternating poles rotate at 1500 rpm. Unlike the rotating armature in
a conventional generator, the rotating magnetic poles in the HES are static. Therefore, the
Holcomb Energy System operates with no moving parts – it is entirely solid-state and
scalable to any application. "

"when a coil of magnet wire is wrapped around the electrical steel, and a weak current is
passed through the coil, the coil generates a weak magnetic field which aligns the
magnetic domains of the steel, and as the domains are aligned, they produce powerful,
moving, magnetic flux which, when organized and sequenced by our high speed computer
system, generates four powerful spinning magnetic poles which pushes electrons around
through the stator coils, producing clean, 3-phase power. Therefore, the weak magnetic
field generated by the power input creates powerful moving magnetic fields which are
responsible for generating the electric power. "

"However, the standard generator rotor only aligns the domains one time at start-up, and
then gets no further energy advantage from the aligning process. In comparison, the HES
aligns the domains and relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and relaxes continuously every
4 milliseconds. Therefore we get the magnification effect 250 times per second. "



Sounds like a transformer to me, and seems like it must have plenty of back EMf.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 25, 2022, 02:32:53 AM
"By eliminating reverse torque, the Holcomb Energy System generates significantly more
power output than is required to operate the system. This allows the HES to recycle a portion of that power output through a standard capacitor/battery interface in a self-regenerating fashion, while simultaneously powering an electrical load. "

"In the Holcomb Energy System, the rotating armature/rotor of the standard electric power generator has been replaced with a static rotor mechanism constructed of multiple electromagnetic pole pieces which are sequenced by a computer excitation system and solid-state relays. The poles are sequenced such that in the case of the 3-phase, 50 Hz generator, 4 distinct alternating poles rotate at 1500 rpm. Unlike the rotating armature in a conventional generator, the rotating magnetic poles in the HES are static. Therefore, the Holcomb Energy System operates with no moving parts – it is entirely solid-state and scalable to any
application. "

"when a coil of magnet wire is wrapped around the electrical steel, and a weak current is passed through the coil, the coil generates a weak magnetic field which aligns the magnetic domains of the steel, and as the domains are aligned, they produce powerful, moving, magnetic flux which, when organized and sequenced by our high speed computer system, generates four powerful spinning magnetic poles which pushes electrons around through the stator coils, producing clean, 3-phase power. Therefore, the weak magnetic field generated by the power input creates powerful moving magnetic fields which are responsible for generating the electric power. "

"However, the standard generator rotor only aligns the domains one time at start-up, and then gets no further energy advantage from the aligning process. In comparison, the HES aligns the domains and relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and relaxes continuously every 4 milliseconds. Therefore we get the magnification effect 250 times per second. "



Sounds like a transformer to me, and seems like it must have plenty of back EMf.
Does "new invention" violate an AXIOM,a law or an Order or it is "only based" by
applied geral ? specific ? absolute ? THEOREM  AXIOMS,Laws,Orders their "conditonized Freedom degrees " !

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem)
https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Theorem?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Theorem?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
German language and meaning RANDOM
English language translation and meaning RANDOM (human or automatic translator dependent)
Saxon      "                "                      "               "             "                 "                "                "

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Saxon (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Saxon)
(Ireland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland), Wales (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales), poetic (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/poetic)) An English/British person.

polylingual,polyintelligent : in analytics a need !


3 scientists in meeting = up to 5 opinions ! [ ? in-/out-sid(e/ing)] 8) Coming from everywhere,with different school/Uni education styles !

Brain- Analytics,human (m./f./n. experiments)brains(indiv. polybrainsorg and use ! or not  ;D ) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterministic_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterministic_system)

             Em-/Parasym-/Sym-/Ek-Pathie : all in one  " solar  ;) (com) plexus "


http://www.rexresearch.com/ide/thetipofaniceberg.pdf (http://www.rexresearch.com/ide/thetipofaniceberg.pdf)


For example, Holcomb object concurrence :

http://www.rexresearch.com/ide/ide.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/ide/ide.htm)

commercial :
Priority date(s),application geopolitical validity
only material parts costs/ mass small-serie exploration calculation !
Ultra-low margin,beside global average costs R&D R.O.I. !
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 03:15:57 AM
4 distinct alternating poles ROTATE at 1500 rpm.


Sounds like a generator to me.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 25, 2022, 04:34:48 AM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 25, 2022, 04:45:12 AM
The images that were posted are of of Holcomb's latest configuration (his latest patent). The patent that UfoPolitics mentions is an older patent and the structure in that patent is "outdated", yet the drive electronics probably still apply. The structure you see in the images above (@Feb2006: not sure where you found those; can you let us know?) is the latest structure that you also see in his videos. It consists of two rotors and one three phase stator (center) with lapped windings.


The flux flow in that structure is such that BEMF (and I am talking about transformer BEMF, not rotational BEMF which is of course not there as everything is fixed) from the stator coils back into the stator coils is avoided!


This means BEMF of the stator coils has nowhere to go but fold onto itself.


@Ufopolitcs


Here is a video of of Pierre's device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn49fDHCHdo&t=5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn49fDHCHdo&t=5s)

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 25, 2022, 05:06:11 AM
Electric fields are pulsing on and off = BackElectroMotivForce.

Rotating armature or not, still there will be BEMF.

The real question is whether or not the BEMF is usefully applied or not.

The fields in this device do not actually rotate, they instead are turned on and off, such that the
positions of the poles of the activated fields around an axis / in a circular arrangement of
coils forms a series of alternate polarity changes. Basic principle of / similar to all electric
motors and generators

Although truly not a conventional, nor a singular transformer, rather a series of interconnected
transformers, but still it is a transformer (magnetic fields are shared between two or more windings
via an iron core). Holcomb's design has the addition of an air gap.

Holcomb's statement
"However, the standard generator rotor only aligns the domains one time at start-up,"
is untrue.

If it works...

Perhaps it is because the back EMF is to a large degree constructively utilized
                                 and / or
there is some kind of      escalating cascading    effect in the field interactions ?

What ever the case may be, Holcomb has not made / has not given the correct explanation.

There could be simplified models / experiments which can verify the effect ?

P.S.

  I think pmgr and I are saying essentially the same things here...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 25, 2022, 07:01:50 AM
@Floor, yes indeed the same thing.


Looking at the MOSFET driving schematic, the coils are driven with a regular 4 MOSFET H-bridge configuration. However at the top of the H-bridge are two sets of 2 MOSFETs added in each leg in series (269 and 270 in left leg, and 272 and 256 in right leg). Not sure exactly why yet, but...


When the coil is switched off, according to the patent, the upper H-bridge FET 272 (powered by battery B) is switched off first before FET 209 in the lower left leg of the H-bridge is switched off.


Based on this configuration, the electrical BEMF that is created when the pole is switched off has two paths to find its way back to itself:


1. Part of it will find its way back through the body diodes of MOSFETs 207,269,270 (in left half of H-bridge), then through battery A to GND and then from GND back to the coil through the body diode of FET  225.


2. Part of it will find its way back through FET 209 (which is still ON) to GND then through the body diode of FET 225  back to the coil.


Which one of the above 2 currents is larger will depend on the resistance in each path. Most likely FET 209 will take most current first and by the time that FET switches off, if there is still energy left in the coil, this will go to battery A.


So part of the electrical BEMF (energy that is stored in the coil) is partially recycled to battery A but most of is likely dissipated through the resistance of the coil itself and of FET 209 and body diode of FET 225.


And this brings me to the reason why Holcomb probably added these MOSFETS in the upper legs: to spread the BEMF voltage (which sizes will depend on how fast the MOSFETs are switched off and on the forward voltage of the body diodes) over these these 4 MOSFET body diodes (225,207,269,270) instead of over just two (225,207) so as not to burn out the body diodes (and thus the MOSFETs). The forward voltage of the body diodes will also determine how far the battery voltage on battery A can climb up above 12V; basically 4x the forward voltage of each body diode.


A similar reasoning can be applied to a pole of opposite polarity (basically driving the H-bridge in the other direction).


So the electrical BEMF is mainly dissipated but some reused to top off the batteries (this happens for both pole polarities N/S). It basically means that the energy that was stored in the coil is not just dissipated, but partially sent back to the batteries (Pierre Cotnoirs DZ generator did this too).


I note that all of it could have been sent back to the batteries if FET 209 were switched off first (instead of FET 272).


But now there is also the magnetic field BEMF from the secondary (the stator in this case) and this BEMF would be generated when a load is applied to the stator coils (and I am referring here to the same thing that @Floor mentions). This BEMF will work against the the batteries (same way as in a regular transformer) unless it can be avoided that the BEMF flux makes it to the rotor pole coils (think about something like a BITT configuration). I think that that is what could be happening here with the way the machine is designed (rotor-stator-rotor configuration). I think it could work, but I have to confirm it with simulations to be sure.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 01:53:40 PM
Back EMF doesn't matter transformers can be nearly 100% efficient


http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~khachan/PTF/Transformer%20explanation.pdf (http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~khachan/PTF/Transformer%20explanation.pdf)


What's matter is eleminating reverse torque !



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 25, 2022, 02:33:54 PM
Hello to All,


I do have to disagree with some comments here...as I agree with others.


First, thanks PmgR for the video link, I will take a look later on...


1- I do not believe this way to switch Coils is barely done by a simple ON-OFF kind of deal...otherwise it would not, definitively not required to have so much sophisticated electronics to do just a simple turn on/off like a wall switch.


Like I have said before, there must be an "attenuation" in  between on-off's, meaning a "fading on and a fading off" effect, in order that BEMF would be considerably reduced.


I also  said before, that if we get these signals in a scope (signals sent to rotor(s) coils, they will NOT be typical spikes, nor any square wave with steep ups and downs....and more likely they will look like a "Chopped Pyramid" with a flat top, which is the coil's full DC feed and therefore, full magnetic field exposure.


I will load an image (that I had to recover from an old account about ten (10) years ago) of a comparison between all three waves...and some call them "sawtooth waves"


I know this may sounds like "fiction" but it is not...believe me.


2- Related to Magnetic Fields Spectrum properties...please, let me remind you that magnetic fields are completely "Spatial" and linger around steel cores and copper, but further away in  space than any solid mass...as also (and very important to know) that whenever you turn off a coil, by cutting its supplied currents and voltages to zero...there is, still, lingering around space...that magnetic field in Space, not referring here to "domains on steel still aligned and still present...NOPE!!...I am referring to Spatial  Field, just like a ghost.


And this could be clearly verified with many new, state of the art techniques to "see" magnetic field spectrum...and NOT referring to the BS ancient type of using some steel shavings on a piece of paper.


I am talking about CRT Viewing, Magnetic Film viewing and Ferrocell viewing of the Real Field Spectrum.


Therefore, if we review AGAIN, 1 & 2 above...now let's apply some speed to the fractions of a millisecond, nanoseconds speed...then we will get the desired effect of seeing these fields transfering, jumping from one steel core to the other, without interruptions.


This is exactly the effect we need to achieve to obtain the great output that NO transformer, No Generator could ever perform.


And I will go to another post to discuss about Coils BEMF... cause I do not want to make them too long, but precise and  to the point.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 25, 2022, 02:38:59 PM
                                             https://engineeringlearn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Lever-1-1024x539.jpg (https://engineeringlearn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Lever-1-1024x539.jpg)

                                             https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/power-factor-formula (https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/power-factor-formula)

                                                         "  -1             /0/            +1            Power Factor  " -Balance

                                                         -100 %         0          +100 %


                                                        BEMF       FULCRUM     EMF





                                                                                          ETA  IDEAL :   net-grid electricity provider

                                                              +100%/  -100% = 1




                                                                                           ETA             IDEAL off-grid > IDEAL net-grid

                                                              +100%/  -  50% = 2

                                                              +100%/  -  25% = 4

                                                             +100%/   -  20% = 5


                                                                               BEMF     ETA

                                                             +100%/   - <20%= >5

                                         
                                         ergo :   battery/capacitor sourced circuit
                                                     or : one-way -/bypass -/filter- circuit
                     
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 OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 25, 2022, 03:04:07 PM

Geez, it's been such a long time ago...



About BEMF in a Coil...my take, my research since 2012...and before...dating back to 1996...when I started my first Patent application about Motors-Generators of a different configuration...and yes, it was granted in 2000.


There has been a way to "capture" Coils BEMF in a very simple way...and by now, there are many electronic circuits which play with similar design scenarios.


My Motors designs got me to discover this way to do it...and so, I have started a Thread in Energetic Forum, and thanks God is still there...back in 2012.


I simplified that circuit in a short image, that I have used as my Logo, for many years up to  now...I will upload it here.


Point is, I have conducted MANY, MANY Experiments, which proofs ALL I am saying here...Ahh, thanks we have YouTube!!....and those videos have a "Time Stamp" that absolutely no one, not even me, can change...to set time backwards...


Now, because this BEMF captured does NOT behave like "typical" Hot Electricity...as it moves MUCH MORE faster, as it does not cause the same "lethal" effects as HV/HA Electricity does...I called it "Radiant Energy"...or Cold Electricity...


In 2012 and further on, I conducted several experiments with this type of BEMF collected...or Radiant Energy, for example on video below, I used a specific and simple 555 timer with FET's  that I built -from scratch- to drive a single coil...set Diodes the way shown on  my Logo...and collected from the Blue side this Special BEMF, or Radiant Energy...and was abale to light a CFL Bulb (remember at that time they were still figuring out how to make Powerful LED's, but not available then...LOL


I added resistors to FULLY SHORT the Lamp circuit...and nothing happens...not even "warming up" the resistor....and you perfectly well know, than in "conventional" hot electricity, this resistor would have burnt right away...plus lamp will stop lighting.




Point is, that BEMF could be "manipulated" the way we desire...whether to store it (in special capacitors, any conventional Electrolytic Cap will blow up if you try....and I did... :) or do whatever you wish with it...


Video from 2012: RADIANT ENERGY/ COLD ELECTRICITY TEST 1 & 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzhKpEqUgc)




Regards






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 25, 2022, 03:11:27 PM
Qoute from Ufopolitics

"Like I have said before, there must be an "attenuation" in  between on-off's, meaning a "fading on and a fading off" effect, in order that BEMF would be considerably reduced."

End of that quote

Agree...

The speed of motion (field expansion and / or collapse) is always a factor in the voltage induced.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 25, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
Any one of You Guys, are familiar with Clemente Figuera's Generator (https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-44267-year-1908/) from 1908?

Figuera found a way to do this same, exact scenario, but by using a specific (it is said he had it made in Germany, back then) a Mechanical-Electrical Driver...


Well, I built that driver (still have it, and runs beautifully) as also experimented for a long time with different setups (videos available  on my Chanel)...and even went further in the design of the cores...


Figuera used resistors in between commutation changing plates contacts, and it was basically to achieve that "Attenuation Effect" on the coils...so, it was not abrupts, steep, radical turning Off-On's...


Now, when I see this newer images of Holcomb's design, where we have TWO Virtual Rotating Rotors, one outside and one inside, "sanwhiched" with the Generator Coils-Cores in the middle...it immediately remind me of my previous concept...back in 2015-17...that I am uploading here...




Cheers






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 25, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Some observations:


Pierrie didn't have this slow rising/falling in his DZ generator. He posted a "scope" shot somewhere and you can see all the switching spikes in his scope trace.


Holcombs patent description doesn't state anything either about slowly rising and falling. The FETs are justed switch on/off.


Now, the slow rise and fall of the current could simply come from the inductor charging/discharging over the 3.2ohms series resistor. I haven't seen any mention of coil inductance values in his patents so we can only guess what his tau=L/R time is.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 25, 2022, 03:40:28 PM

There could be simplified models / experiments which can verify the effect ?



Of course!!...Yes, there are ways to experiment with this in a much simpler way...do not expect any "outrageous results", but for proof of concept it will work...


You can get an Universal Motor, like the ones Dremel's use, as some AC Power Drills (not battery powered)...which have stator windings (not permanent magnets) and brushed-commutator Armature-Rotor...


Then you could drive the brushes-commutator remotely with a smaller motor, while fixing the rotor (otherwise it will start to spin while being loose inside stator...LOL!!!


Of course, you will need to solder the armature coils to commutator contacts, with longer wires in the same sequence to a second commutator away from testing motor-generator...which you will run just the two brushes by the smaller motor...and feed it through continuous slip rings...


Feed small motor with a regulated PSU, and check output voltage in a Scope and a Meter....You will be surprised.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 25, 2022, 03:46:01 PM
I am very familiar with Clemente's generator. Followed all the various threads everywhere. There still is the discussion of whether the switching happened over resistors or whether they were actually (resistive) coils. The opinions vary about that.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 25, 2022, 03:51:49 PM
I am very familiar with Clemente's generator. Followed all the various threads everywhere. There still is the discussion of whether the switching happened over resistors or whether they were actually (resistive) coils. The opinions vary about that.


Correct, I have used both ways...there was a guy in EF (a good friend of Bistander...LOL)...who designed some "Part C" which was based on a wound toroid...with contacts every certain # of loops...as the resistors, I got specific ones which can stand the spikes and have heat sinks mountings...




Cheers









Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 04:28:23 PM


What happens if we apply square wave to transformer?






A square wave is a combination of sine waves of various frequencies. So the transformer will resist those high frequency signals more.
More back EMF (impedance).

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 04:39:24 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 25, 2022, 04:41:01 PM
Feb2006, curious to know where you are pulling those images from? VLCSnap, hmmm, screen shots of his videos?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 25, 2022, 05:51:52 PM
Hello to All,


Well, thanks to PmgR, I just watched (for the first time) Pierre Cotnoir's videos 1 and 3 (missing#2), but just by watching #3 Video, is more than enough!!


Now...Cotnoir does the "proof of concept" very loud and very clearly!!


He gets to close the loop!!...


Do you need any more proof than this videos?


Or do you believe this is also "another fake"?


Did you look for "some miraculous" fine and transparent wires running under the table, feeding the whole thing??!!


And, yes, it is based on EXACTLY the same THEORY as Dr Holcomb...Rotating the Magnetic DC Fields!!


He uses relays instead of FET's, He uses an Arduino Board, instead of the PLC of Holcomb...a Microprocessor, period.


And of course, you will need a Bank of Supercaps so you could do the Loop, serving as a momentary storage to disconnect-reconnect power.


Can you all do the same thing with a Transformer?


Can You all do the same thing with a rotary generator?


The answer is a BIG NOPE, YOU CAN NOT!!


There is a very old proverb, an old saying...

"There is not worst blind...than those who do not want to see..."


I really do not have the time now...but, eventually I will continue my experiments, as I have almost everything required to do the testings.


I had learned over the years that it is NOT Good to "jump" from one experiment to the other...otherwise you will finish zero, none...




Respectfully






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 06:07:49 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 06:08:59 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on March 25, 2022, 06:09:50 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 25, 2022, 11:39:05 PM
Hello to All,


I do have to disagree with some comments here...as I agree with others.

...
Image did not show in quote. See Ufo's  original post.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
In your image, graph of induction vs time, by induction do you refer to generated voltage in the conductors? I suspect so. Here is an image showing actual waveform. Also a link to the thread where I found it. You may find this interesting/helpful.

https://overunity.com/14020/parallel-core-generator/

bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 26, 2022, 03:51:55 PM
There is one more optional topology that has a higher tangential induction factor than the image on the right, see attached.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 26, 2022, 04:19:37 PM
Hello  to  all,


Hello Bistander, and thanks for sharing your graphic by Naudin, I will check on that link later on.


Yesterday I've spent the whole day, till late last night, reading the WHOLE 94 Pages from P. Cotnoir moderated board...amazing work done there by so many replicators, in particular by L192 as by Moderator Gotoluc...


I got an image from there, related to this "kind" of confusion related to Magnetic Fields Polarization versus Coils Induction...it says it all in just a couple of images.


Like Pierre said, so many times there...Please, concentrate how a typical rotary Generator WORKS!!!...Imagine the Rotational Fields...

As from there you will get all your answers...your solutions, and so "the works".




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 26, 2022, 05:11:09 PM
Here is an example of the induced current waveform with the topology in my previous post.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 26, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
There is one more optional topology that has a higher tangential induction factor than the image on the right, see attached.

Regards,
Pm

Thanks. Can you explain 'tangential' induction?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 26, 2022, 05:27:03 PM
Here is an example of the induced current waveform with the topology in my previous post.

Regards,
Pm

So, is this with the magnet moving through the center of the coil?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 26, 2022, 05:34:29 PM
Hello  to  all,


Hello Bistander, and thanks for sharing your graphic by Naudin, I will check on that link later on.


Yesterday I've spent the whole day, till late last night, reading the WHOLE 94 Pages from P. Cotnoir moderated board...amazing work done there by so many replicators, in particular by L192 as by Moderator Gotoluc...


I got an image from there, related to this "kind" of confusion related to Magnetic Fields Polarization versus Coils Induction...it says it all in just a couple of images.


Like Pierre said, so many times there...Please, concentrate how a typical rotary Generator WORKS!!!...Imagine the Rotational Fields...

As from there you will get all your answers...your solutions, and so "the works".




Regards




Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
Your graphic agrees with Naudin's example on the left side of the image which I posted except having greater interpolar distance, doesn't it?
bi

edit:
Looking at it some more, maybe not. I'd like to see the topology. Can you provide a link to your source, Ufo? Thanks.

2nd edit:
OK. Thinking further on it, I think Naudin's signal train is generated from all N poles passing the coil and Ufo's graphic is N, S, N, S ....
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 26, 2022, 05:46:10 PM
Thanks. Can you explain 'tangential' induction?
bi

The center line of the induction coil is tangential to the PM flux field.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 26, 2022, 05:49:04 PM
So, is this with the magnet moving through the center of the coil?
bi

The magnet moves left-to-right or right-to-left at a right angle to the center line of the induction coil.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 26, 2022, 06:00:40 PM
The magnet moves left-to-right or right-to-left at a right angle to the center line of the induction coil.

Regards,
Pm

So motion is not in the direction of the arrow? But perpendicular to the arrow?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 26, 2022, 06:38:50 PM
So motion is not in the direction of the arrow? But perpendicular to the arrow?
bi

Yes, that is correct.  I should have changed that arrow and showed the proper direction on the graphic. 

The advantage of this topology over what Naudin showed is the larger ratio of the areas above and below the zero reference line and in these examples, the positive and negative areas respectively.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on March 26, 2022, 08:36:19 PM
Here is an example of the induced current waveform with the topology in my previous post.

Regards,
Pm
You give the shape of the current in the coil.
And what forces act between a short-circuited coil and a magnet moving past it?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 26, 2022, 09:59:15 PM
I don't see anything new or extraordinary in Holcomb setup.
I will put this into points.


Device construction and operation.

1.In the  picture "setup" middle part- it is regular 4 pole stator from squirrel cage 3 phase motor. It might be double winding, it is hard to see. I assume in that stator windings there are induced  output currents from that device.  That kind of winding is called "distributed". Inside , in the place of rotor, we see mechanically locked slotted iron core with concentrated windings, 16 of them. Outside we see another stator core , also with concentrated windings, 16 of them.


2. The principle of operation  is to energize  simultanously inner and outer concentrated coils, by pairs, then next pair, ans so on- to create rotating magnetic field vector. This rotating magnetic field vector is cutting middle stator  coils from 3 phase motor, and induces EMF in them. This rotating magnetic field vector is created by control circuit that is switching power to the inner/outer coil pairs. Energizing of inner/outer coil pairs in this particular build needs to be done in 4 pole  way.
Induced EMF=B x L x v x sin (alpha)   , B- intensity of magnetic field created by pair of inner/outer coils , L- summary active length of middle stator  coils , v- speed of magnetic vector rotation.


3.On the picture "lock screws" you could see that inner core shaft is locked with a lock screws to the frame . I bet that inner core is custom cut from regular squirrel cage rotor. That gives me a clue that there may be some torque  on that inner core during operation.


My thoughts.


1. The same kind of rotating "DC" magnetic vector  we can get without such sophisphicated switching technique, simply by use of balanced 3 phase signals ( 120 deg out of phase).  Tesla did it over  2 centuries ago.  Some people on this forum still can't understand that by combining 3 balanced sinusoidal signals  with the coils separated 120 deg on the stator circumference- as result we will get a rotating constant value magnetic vector,  some say rotating "DC magnetic field". 3 x AC magnetic field IN = 1 DC  rotating magnetic field  OUT. Magic, isn't it?  ;)


2. Holcomb device looks the same like typical  permanent magnet generators people do for wind projects. They modify  regular 3 phase squirrel cage motor by inserting permanent magnets on the rotor.  Magnets are positioned on the rotor in a slotted way to minimise magnetic "drag" when magnets are facing iron poles. The only difference is that in such PM generators rotors are physically rotated by wind. In Holcomb device, there is no mechanical rotation of the rotor, but switching coil pairs to create rotation of "virtual permanent magnets". In both cases there is energy input- in PM generators  it is mechanical energy to turn the rotor with permanent magnets, in Holcomb's there is used electrical energy to energize and switch coil pairs to create rotating PM vector.


3. Holcomb device resembles "locking rotor"  regime of 3 phase motor.  Sometimes electricians describe AC motors as "rotating transformer". If you lock shaft of 3 phase squirrel cage motor and switch on 3 phase current, rotating magnetic field will induce huge EMF and currents in the rotor  aluminium "cage coils", according to exactly the same formula E=B x L x v x sin (alpha). Better do such a test for a short time, othervise high temperature generated by rotor cage coils will burn stator windings. If instead of squirrel cage AC motor we would use  a slip ring AC motor with wound rotor- then when we energize  that motor with locked shaft we would utilise  induced EMF in locked rotor coils to external load. But this would be just normal transformer work, no OU there.


Given all above similiarities, I don't see why and from what kind of magic Holcomb device would give more energy out than he puts in.
I don't see any mechanism of energy gain.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 26, 2022, 10:54:15 PM
You give the shape of the current in the coil.
And what forces act between a short-circuited coil and a magnet moving past it?

This depends on the circuit topology.  With a shorted air coil, there will be a slight Lenz effect produced.  With a constant current on the air coil, there will be no Lenz effect.  With a tracking constant voltage sink on the air coil, there will also be no Lenz effect.

With a cored coil in either of the above conditions, there will be a Lenz effect however, the resulting torque forces can be cancelled with proper PM fields on the opposite end of the rotor.  This is simplified but gives the overall general basics.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 26, 2022, 11:29:31 PM
In My Honest Opinion:



I really do not see the point -at all- to keep arguing with anyone who do not, plain and simple, denies, to open their minds to see beyond their limited schooling and education, even if we are talking about a University Degree in Electrical Engineering...or even a PHD in EE Science...I really could not care less which of which!!

It is wasting and wearing both of our times in the process.


All I can say - again- I have seen these systems working, and they do work, and it was not "yesterday" but a long time ago...before Pierre Cotnoir put together his DZ Generator in 2018...and I  have all the proof there is.


But debating with people who do not want to accept "the difference" I consider a waste of time.


Basically in a place like this, called OVERUNITY



Where we all should be -at least- OPEN MINDED for new or even old inventions and ideas of disclosed methods that were not tought in Engineering Classes...




Being a stubborn and stock with whatever you've learned will never get you to overunity, ever...it was "designed" to do exactly that...deny and deny anything that even smells to OU.




Sincerely






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: partzman on March 27, 2022, 12:38:28 AM
UFO:  I have to agree with what you say.  I would like to hear more about what you have seen as a working OU device.

Pix: How many sets of coils do you see in the Holcomb generator you posted?  I see a rotor, stator, and a third set on the very outside.  What is the function of this third set?

Anybody have an answer?

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 01:04:22 AM
UFO:  I have to agree with what you say.  I would like to hear more about what you have seen as a working OU device.

Pix: How many sets of coils do you see in the Holcomb generator you posted?  I see a rotor, stator, and a third set on the very outside.  What is the function of this third set?

Anybody have an answer?

Regards,
Pm


Hello Partzman,


Thanks man, and I have to recognize your help as contributions to the Pierre Cotnoir Thread as to Gotocuc build!!

You will see it soon, I have asked Stefan to either add me as a second Moderator to that Thread, or to make me a new one, where I will help previous builders to redo, basically their coils set up...where I see there is a problem, as why they get such low Induction.


This Systems do not need the higher RPM's in a virtual field as we utilize in a massive rotating armature...for a generator...and talking in Hertz Frequencies (Cycle/Time)...


Related to your question on the Holcomb image...I  am pretty sure that's the outer Stationary Rotor, similar to the way Cotnoir used as his outrunner rotor.


Take a closer look at the way it is wound...one (Thicker coil than inner) per pole notch, but aligned spatially.


So, when you "sandwhich" the Output Core-Coils in between Two Static Rotors, the Induction would be huge, much higher than just one static rotor...as they should also be in sync related to virtual spinning...Something that can never, ever, be done with a rotary, conventional generator...think about it.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 27, 2022, 03:27:29 AM
Still, I see no simplified explanation of, or theory of operation presented here.

Does someone have one ?

Three coils...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2022, 04:28:52 AM
Still, I see no simplified explanation of, or theory of operation presented here.

Does someone have one ?

Three coils...

Hello floor,
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=drehstrom (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=drehstrom)

f.e.:  https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Dreiphasenwechselstrom?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Dreiphasenwechselstrom?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

Colloquially, the three-phase alternating current is referred to as heavy current , which is incorrect or at least imprecise. [2] (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Dreiphasenwechselstrom?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp#cite_note-2) The name is understandable from the fact that twice the electrical power (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Elektrische_Leistung?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) can be transported as with single-phase alternating current with the same amount of material.The three-phase system is mainly used in the field of electrical energy technology (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Elektrische_Energietechnik?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) for the transport and distribution of electrical energy (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Elektrische_Energie?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) in power grids (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Stromnetz?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) . Examples of this are the national three-phase high-voltage transmission networks (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Drehstrom-Hochspannungs-%C3%9Cbertragung?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) , low (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Niederspannungsnetz?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) -voltage networks in the area of ​​local power supply or three- phase (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Drehstrommaschine?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) machines that are used to drive elevators (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Aufzugsanlage?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) or in electrically powered vehicles (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Elektrofahrzeug?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) .

happy Sunday wishing
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 04:32:26 AM
Still, I see no simplified explanation of, or theory of operation presented here.

Does someone have one ?


Hello Floor,



I believe I have explained it before...but is ok, my  pleasure to explain in more detail.


Honestly, I find it so simple, that I do not see it as that hard to understand...


It does  not affect -at all- Faraday Law of Induction...same parameters apply without absolutely any change...


For better understanding, let me brake it down in two parts, a Physical and a Virtual .


The Physical Switching consist of single coils which are connected isolated into series of Pairs, set at 180º apart across (whether output stator is inside or outside), and here the "Higher the Resolution" (as Pierre Cotnoir mentioned), the more compact of a field we will have...Higher Resolution meaning higher number of coils around the 360º, to then  nbe divided in Groups, depending on the total number of poles we are working with...say in a 36 poles rotor we choose six groups of six independently excited coils, so each group will have 60º, as each coil have around 10º.


Meaning we have Six Groups which are going to be switching NNNNNN-SSSSSS-NNNNNN-SSSSSS-NNNNNN-SSSSSS spread along the 360º every 60º


Now to start the Virtual Rotation we start reversing three pairs of two single coils simultaneously @ 120º apart...and so on and on...


And the point here is to switch only one single coil per group at a time, this way the magnetic field of each group will never collapse.

Realize that whenever we magnetize a full group of individual coils, next to each others, at the same time, we generate a Single Field,, whether North or South.


The Virtual displacement of the Main Group of Fields is a consequence of above individual coils reverse switching, actually, since we are not allowing the Main Group Field to collapse, it just makes a Spatial Jump to the next level, in this case every 10º  and 180º apart...


If you look at the image below...it may help to understand the geometry here...




Hope you understand it




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2022, 04:37:29 AM
Hello II,

What is the difference between alternating current and three-phase current?
https://ladefragen-de.translate.goog/28/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://ladefragen-de.translate.goog/28/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

Image result for three-phase current The only difference between alternating current and three-phase current is that three-phase current consists of three alternating currents (L1, L2, L3). These are 120 degrees out of phase. So three-phase current is twisted alternating current.


07/28/2021 Direct current, alternating current and three-phase current: What is that actually?

For VA and VAr power,related DC or Direct Current, the difference to observe and apply ! :
https://ladefragen-de.translate.goog/43/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://ladefragen-de.translate.goog/43/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-gFgnG7XU8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-gFgnG7XU8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOS5Id0OcKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOS5Id0OcKk)   and all other right side explaining audio-vid´s


f.e. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSQO0Y2b2oo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSQO0Y2b2oo)

        an asymetrical tri-phase             to symetrical tri-phase

                         
                                                              to

                                       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system)

        an asymetrical   poly-phase > tri-  to symetrical poly-phase > tri-

                                by Tri-to POLY-angulation of Power Factor Tri- to POLY-angle


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=power+factor+triangle (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=power+factor+triangle)



                                            to finally :  PWM Power
                                     https://www.vishay.com/resistors/pulse-energy-calculator/ (https://www.vishay.com/resistors/pulse-energy-calculator/)

here explained for example by P. Kanarev https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=kanarev+pulse+power (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=kanarev+pulse+power)


more:
https://www.google.com/search?q=electrical+pulse+power&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBvabj791bZKCcJ9ZWweqNNnFhWGqg%3A1648350356634&ei=lNQ_Yq-nJoKzsAfJgIjACg&oq=electric+pulse+power&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIGCAAQBxAeMggIABAIEAcQHjIICAAQCBAHEB4yCAgAEAgQBxAeMggIABAIEAcQHjIICAAQCBAKEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjoHCCMQsAMQJzoECAAQQzoKCAAQCBAHEAoQHkoECEEYAUoECEYYAFCLClixNWC8R2gBcAB4AIABbYgBhQySAQQyLjEzmAEAoAEByAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz (https://www.google.com/search?q=electrical+pulse+power&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBvabj791bZKCcJ9ZWweqNNnFhWGqg%3A1648350356634&ei=lNQ_Yq-nJoKzsAfJgIjACg&oq=electric+pulse+power&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIGCAAQBxAeMggIABAIEAcQHjIICAAQCBAHEB4yCAgAEAgQBxAeMggIABAIEAcQHjIICAAQCBAKEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjoHCCMQsAMQJzoECAAQQzoKCAAQCBAHEAoQHkoECEEYAUoECEYYAFCLClixNWC8R2gBcAB4AIABbYgBhQySAQQyLjEzmAEAoAEByAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz)



making part :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=plasma+current (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=plasma+current)

here "current" as "actual" ;)
         https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=fermilab+current (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=fermilab+current)



https://www.google.com/search?q=fermilab+&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBtq64VMp1sOXDKhOc_4O1nZ8QKntQ%3A1648350728473&ei=CNY_YrfNHIe4lwS4y7iwDA&ved=0ahUKEwi38Yr9qOX2AhUH3IUKHbglDsYQ4dUDCA0&oq=fermilab+&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAwyBAgjECcyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIECAAQHjIECAAQHjIECAAQHjIECAAQHjoHCAAQRxCwA0oECEEYAEoECEYYAFDiEFiAFmCpL2gBcAF4AIABbYgB3gWSAQMwLjeYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz (https://www.google.com/search?q=fermilab+&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBtq64VMp1sOXDKhOc_4O1nZ8QKntQ%3A1648350728473&ei=CNY_YrfNHIe4lwS4y7iwDA&ved=0ahUKEwi38Yr9qOX2AhUH3IUKHbglDsYQ4dUDCA0&oq=fermilab+&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAwyBAgjECcyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIECAAQHjIECAAQHjIECAAQHjIECAAQHjoHCAAQRxCwA0oECEEYAEoECEYYAFDiEFiAFmCpL2gBcAF4AIABbYgB3gWSAQMwLjeYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tevatron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tevatron)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_beyond_the_Standard_Model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_beyond_the_Standard_Model)

GRT  SRT    ART ( A = Absolute Relativity Theory)   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarity_(physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarity_(physics))

wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 27, 2022, 05:30:07 AM
@partzman et al,


The inner part is a rotor consisting of 16 poles.
The outer part is also a rotor consisting of 16 poles.
The poles of inner and outer rotor are aligned and reinforcing when biased.
These 16 poles are grouped in 4 groups of each 4 neighboring poles,
leading to an overall rotor pattern of 4 magnetic poles (N-S-N-S)


The center part is the stator with 36 slots. Since we have 4 poles on the rotors,
we have 4 groups for each phase on the stator.
Each group has 3 coils in series. The coils are lapped with a span of 6, so e.g. 1-7.


This is the slot assignment for the rotor.


x-y means a single coil sitting in slot x (left side of coil) and slot y (right side of coil)
(x1-y1,x2-y2,x3-y3) means these three coils are wired in series


Phase 1 group 1: (  1-7,    2-8,     3-9  ) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 2: (10-16, 11-17, 12-18) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 3: (19-25, 20-26, 21-27) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 4: (28-34, 29-35, 30-36) facing N pole of rotor



Phase 2 group 1: (13-19, 14-20, 15-21) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 2: (22-28, 23-29, 24-30) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 3: (31-1  , 32-2  , 33-3  ) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 4: ( 4-10,    5-11,   6-12) facing S pole of rotor



Phase 3 group 1: (25-31, 26-32, 27-33) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 2: (34-4,   35-5,   36-6  ) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 3: (  7-13,   8-14,  9-15) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 4: (16-22, 17-23, 18-24) facing S pole of rotor


For each phase, coils in groups are wired in series as group1 - group2 + group3 - group4 (N-S-N-S)


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 27, 2022, 05:50:17 AM
@LancaIV


If you insist on posting noise, the least you can do is to keep your lines short so that it doesn't mess up the formatting of everyone else and we don't have to scroll all the way to the right to find the reply button.


Thank you!
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2022, 05:58:29 AM
unconventional noise output applications  ;) :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=wolfgang+hagedorn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=wolfgang+hagedorn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
 DE8901215  Magneton

 https://www.britannica.com/technology/magneton (https://www.britannica.com/technology/magneton)

               DE8813063
~  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)


related #142  :)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3804440A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19890209&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3804440A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19890209&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

wmbr
OCWL

btw : application,B1 = Award : EP PATENT ! 1993 the decision published !

         https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=19931006&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=EP&NR=0367760B1&KC=B1&ND=4# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=19931006&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=EP&NR=0367760B1&KC=B1&ND=4#)

The physical manifestations and phenomena of permanent and electromagnetism,
 in particular the attraction of unequal and repulsion of like magnetic poles, induction and the magnetic field are theories that are based on experimental,
 electrodynamic and mathematical evidence of laws such as those of Ampère, Coulomb, Faraday , Gauss, Lenz, Lorentz, Maxwell and Oersted.


The Unitarity(Physics)-Model,to ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewissheit (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewissheit)
                     
                                                 ABSOLUTE RATIO,          https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_fidei (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_fidei)
optical demonstrator about laws apply and the orders( pleni-/magni-tude  )
 EE and Mandelbrot Fractale abstract to concrete and wise-/vice-versa reflection by 'Licht-/Welle-Brechung' 

                                                              typo : wipping balance
EE and https://www-ingenieurkurse-de.translate.goog/physik/kraftwandler/hebel/zweiseitiger-hebel.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-ingenieurkurse-de.translate.goog/physik/kraftwandler/hebel/zweiseitiger-hebel.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) relationship,conditio : fulcrum ~ Dreh-/Angel-Punkt or   0-point



        in equity&tribunal law : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice)

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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 11:33:43 AM
Still, I see no simplified explanation of, or theory of operation presented here.

Does someone have one ?

Three coils...


Hi Floor,
Yes, it is basically Holcomb setup. Nothing fancy.
1. Outer coils (green and blue) are : blue-locked rotor concentrated winding (16 pcs),  green- outer stator concentrated winding (16 pcs) . Middle coil mangenta(?)- it is 3 phase motor stator with distributed windings, 4 pole.
2.So outer/inner concentrated windings pair are pulsed by control circuit , then next pair and so on to create rotating magnetic vector that induces EMF in middle stator windings.
That's all.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 11:46:26 AM
UFO:  I have to agree with what you say.  I would like to hear more about what you have seen as a working OU device.

Pix: How many sets of coils do you see in the Holcomb generator you posted?  I see a rotor, stator, and a third set on the very outside.  What is the function of this third set?

Anybody have an answer?

Regards,
Pm


Partzman.
I already explained it in my previous post with a pictures.
3 ferromagnetic cores.
In the centre there is a locked rotor with 16 concentrated coils- then outside is a stator with another 16 concentrated coils. Those two are generating rotating magnetic vector, controller is pulsing adjacent concentrated coil pairs one pair a time I guess, to create rotating magnetic vector.
Between them we have a middle stator with distrubuted coils, it is regular stator from 3 phase motor. Here in that middle stator rotating magnetic vector is inducing EMF, from that windings we take generated power.
Simple like that.
Holcomb setup is mimicking Permanent Magnet generator or normal 3 phase motor with permanent magnets attached to the rotor.
Only difference- no need for mechanical rotation of the rotor, Holcomb creates magnetic field rotation by control circuit pulsing inner/outer cconcentrated coil pair pulsing.
I don't see anything extraordinary in that setup, neither a reason to be OU.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 12:07:36 PM
https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf

...In comparison, the HES alignst the domains and   relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and   
relaxes continuously every 4   milliseconds (250Hz) . Therefore we get the magnification   effect 250 times per   second.   

The key = relaxes
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 27, 2022, 12:19:04 PM
JUST TRYING TO GRASP IT ALL.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 27, 2022, 12:29:22 PM
THIS INVENTION CAN BE VERY EASILY FURTHER ENHANCE BY MARRYING THIS GREAT INVENTION
TOGETHER. IT WILL TAKE A PURE GENIUS TO DO SO. https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 03:02:59 PM
https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf (https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf)

...In comparison, the HES alignst the domains and   relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and   
relaxes continuously every 4   milliseconds (250Hz) . Therefore we get the magnification   effect 250 times per   second.   

The key = relaxes


Magnetization and demagnetization of ferromagnetic material may be this novelity in Holcomb? :o
Every flyback and boost converter is doing this.


If we want  talk about energy gain, we should talk about utilisation of non linear region of magnetization curve, and only that region- then yes, there is amplification there. But I don't see it in Holcomb setup. For that nonlinearity we should use very soft magnetic material with small demagnetization losses.  Such material should have high saturation point, above 1,5Tesla and very narrow hysteresis, nanoperm would be good.
And device should operate only in that nonlinear region, not going into saturation region.
In my opinion better device to utilise gain from nonlinearity od ferromagnetic material would be a flyback converter.
With a large ratio of primary to secondary, like 1:100 it would take a very small magnetizing current to magnetize ferromagnetic core with a few primary turns (without BEMF from secondary during  magnetization part "ON") , and during "OFF" time collapsing magnetic field is acting upon 100 times more windings. Some air gap in the magnetic path of such flyback would be beneficial to increase energy level stored in magnetic field.


Cheers.
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2022, 04:02:33 PM
THIS INVENTION CAN BE VERY EASILY FURTHER ENHANCE BY MARRYING THIS GREAT INVENTION
TOGETHER. IT WILL TAKE A PURE GENIUS TO DO SO. https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html (https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html)

Hello to Praislin and elsewhere,

Taking their Genius,multiple motors and/or generators on 1 shaft :


Ernie Esters,U.S.A.


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=dynamoelectric&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=esters&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=dynamoelectric&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=esters&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)


LUTEC,AUS

https://www.google.com/search?q=lutec+magnetic+motor&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBsl3qJ2940eJozOelBSUsPnt9Nc7w%3A1648389500281&ei=fG1AYsTiEKKblwTChLygCw&oq=lutec+motor&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYATIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BwgAEEcQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6EgguEMcBEKMCEMgDELADEEMYAToSCC4QxwEQ0QMQyAMQsAMQQxgBOgwILhDIAxCwAxBDGAE6BQgAEIAEOgQIABBDOgQIABATOggIABAWEB4QEzoKCAAQFhAKEB4QE0oECEEYAEoECEYYAFCjBliSE2C-JGgBcAF4AIABkQGIAZEGkgEDMC42mAEAoAEByAENwAEB2gEECAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz (https://www.google.com/search?q=lutec+magnetic+motor&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBsl3qJ2940eJozOelBSUsPnt9Nc7w%3A1648389500281&ei=fG1AYsTiEKKblwTChLygCw&oq=lutec+motor&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYATIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BwgAEEcQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6EgguEMcBEKMCEMgDELADEEMYAToSCC4QxwEQ0QMQyAMQsAMQQxgBOgwILhDIAxCwAxBDGAE6BQgAEIAEOgQIABBDOgQIABATOggIABAWEB4QEzoKCAAQFhAKEB4QE0oECEEYAEoECEYYAFCjBliSE2C-JGgBcAF4AIABkQGIAZEGkgEDMC42mAEAoAEByAENwAEB2gEECAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz)


Happy new week and work-flow wishing
OCWL

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                 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz-Spule (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz-Spule)

                 https://www.britannica.com/science/Helmholtz-resonator
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 27, 2022, 04:09:49 PM
I see it’s quieter at ( less interruptions /FE noise / tonnage??)
And no sneakers needed to run back and forth to read the page ( do to oversized images posted repeatedly in this thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831 (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831)




Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 04:32:30 PM
If the Holcomb devices work, it must use a power source such as some fuel. There's no other way. No spinning the magnetic field will do anything.
 It is only needed to perform the conversion of energy into other energy. A possible version is iron conversion. He also writes about it.
The magnetic field is only needed for the conversion process and is frequency and power dependent for iron.
 This is similar to NMR but only for a given process.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2022, 04:38:11 PM
If the Holcomb devices work, it must use a power source such as some fuel. There's no other way. No spinning the magnetic field will do anything.
 It is only needed to perform the conversion of energy into other energy. A possible version is iron conversion. He also writes about it.
The magnetic field is only needed for the conversion process and is frequency and power dependent for iron.
 This is similar to NMR but only for a given process.
https://overunity.com/13165/the-true-tesla-coil/msg554012/#msg554012 (https://overunity.com/13165/the-true-tesla-coil/msg554012/#msg554012)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
Method and apparatus for converting energy from the surroundings into electric energy.

 The invention relates to a method for converting .kinetic energy present in the surroundings into electric energy, in which the kinetic energy is converted by means of magnetic flux variations, brought about in or near an electrical conductor, into electric energy in said electrical conductor. Preferably use is made of kinetic energy, which is present in the surroundings in the form of magnetic energy to generate an electromotive force in the electrical conductor.

 The invention also relates to an apparatus for converting kinetic energy present in the surroundings into electric energy, which apparatus is provided with an electrical conductor and means for generating magnetic flux variations in or near an electrical conductor, for generating from the kinetic energy present in the surroundings, into electric energy in the electrical conductor. Preferably, from the kinetic energy, present in the surroundings in the form of magnetic energy, an electromotive force is generated in the electrical conductor.

 It is known from the physics of particles that gravitons can convert, inter alia, into photons as they pass through space and matter, as a result of which energy is released. These photons occur both in space and in matter and they represent energy, i.e. kinetic energy. Said photons, inter alia, determine the mutual interaction between electrons, and said electrons can b.oth emit and receive photons. As is known also electron spin moments can be directed in a material by the technique of permanent magnetization, as a result of which kinetic particles, among which photons, released also start to flow through the material in a direction, the so-called magnetization direction. The disturbed energetic balance is restored by a field of kinetic particles in the surroundings of the material directed along the known magnetic field lines outside the material.

 Likewise in the case of an electron current through an electrical conductor, a flow of kinetic particles flowing along the magnetic lines of force will likewise be produced outside or around the conductor. By winding the electrical conductor into the form of a coil , a flow of particles can likewise be produced which is comparable to the flow of particles in the case of a permanent magnet and so a concentrated field of particles is obtained.   In the method and apparatus of present invention use is made of abovementioned phenomenon, in which<'> the external field of kinetic particles is influenced such that the energy thereof is absorbed in an electrical conductor. This absorption of kinetic particles energy, among which also heat, can be obtained by means of the application of a suitable stationary magnetic field and/or a variable magnetic field.

 For example, by varying or pulsing the electron current through the electrical conductor in the current direction at high frequency, the photon field, which compensates for the balance around the conductor, becomes active to such an extent that photons are absorbed from the surroundings into the electrons in the electrical conductor. As a result, energy is taken up from said surroundings into said electron current.

https://www-maschinenbau--wissen-de.translate.goog/skript3/werkstofftechnik/metall/3-kristallstruktur?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-maschinenbau--wissen-de.translate.goog/skript3/werkstofftechnik/metall/3-kristallstruktur?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Holcomb pulsing controller process ?
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:07:51 PM
@partzman et al,


The inner part is a rotor consisting of 16 poles.
The outer part is also a rotor consisting of 16 poles.
The poles of inner and outer rotor are aligned and reinforcing when biased.
These 16 poles are grouped in 4 groups of each 4 neighboring poles,
leading to an overall rotor pattern of 4 magnetic poles (N-S-N-S)


The center part is the stator with 36 slots. Since we have 4 poles on the rotors,
we have 4 groups for each phase on the stator.
Each group has 3 coils in series. The coils are lapped with a span of 6, so e.g. 1-7.


This is the slot assignment for the rotor.


x-y means a single coil sitting in slot x (left side of coil) and slot y (right side of coil)
(x1-y1,x2-y2,x3-y3) means these three coils are wired in series


Phase 1 group 1: (  1-7,    2-8,     3-9  ) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 2: (10-16, 11-17, 12-18) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 3: (19-25, 20-26, 21-27) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 4: (28-34, 29-35, 30-36) facing N pole of rotor



Phase 2 group 1: (13-19, 14-20, 15-21) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 2: (22-28, 23-29, 24-30) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 3: (31-1  , 32-2  , 33-3  ) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 4: ( 4-10,    5-11,   6-12) facing S pole of rotor



Phase 3 group 1: (25-31, 26-32, 27-33) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 2: (34-4,   35-5,   36-6  ) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 3: (  7-13,   8-14,  9-15) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 4: (16-22, 17-23, 18-24) facing S pole of rotor


For each phase, coils in groups are wired in series as group1 - group2 + group3 - group4 (N-S-N-S)


Hi PmgR,


You were right in the first part, until you wrote the bold sentence by me: "Each Group has three coils in series"...and so, from there on, the explanation  is not right.
That is incorrect, each group has Four (4) Coils in series.


This is all about understanding Spatial Geometry...in this setups...


We do not need to be "required" to use any specific configuration of number of poles...as long as we can combine Pairs in series of single coils all along the 360º circumference.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 05:08:14 PM
lancaIV: Patents do not confirm that this is true, and such a device only works that way. In the future, if someone does it, maybe.
You know how many patents of this type are there, right. How many real devices are there?
One thing is for sure, it must be a conversion.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:12:33 PM
If the Holcomb devices work, it must use a power source such as some fuel. There's no other way. No spinning the magnetic field will do anything.
 It is only needed to perform the conversion of energy into other energy. A possible version is iron conversion. He also writes about it.
The magnetic field is only needed for the conversion process and is frequency and power dependent for iron.
 This is similar to NMR but only for a given process.


You are dead wrong pal...period.
No "Fuel" is used here, except for the "Fuel" of DC Magnetic Field GHOSTS DANCING IN A CIRCULAR MOTION... ;D




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:16:33 PM
I see it’s quieter at ( less interruptions /FE noise / tonnage??)
And no sneakers needed to run back and forth to read the page ( do to oversized images posted repeatedly in this thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831 (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831)


Hello  Chet,


The fact pages stretch and you need sneakers to run back and forth...is not due just to oversized images...now, on this page we still have to run quarter mile to reach right end...


It is the copied and pasted links here, by Ianca, with a specific longer format that our editor can not correct automatically...


Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:36:39 PM
https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf (https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf)

...In comparison, the HES alignst the domains and   relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and   
relaxes continuously every 4   milliseconds (250Hz) . Therefore we get the magnification   effect 250 times per   second.   

The key = relaxes




Wrong again...


The "key" is not any relaxation...anywhere.


Every Pair of Coils from each Group are REVERSING POLARIZATION on a timely bases.


In a Four Group set, Two Pairs of Coils are reversing polarity simultaneously...


In a Six Group of Coils Three Pairs are reversing polarity at unison.


There is absolutely NO COILS COLLAPSING TO ZERO -IN STATIONARY ROTORS- AT ANY POINT OF THE ENTIRE OPERATION HERE!!!

So no "relaxation" but reversal of domains at molecular steel levels.


At the same token, these constant reversals do not allow steel cores to saturate ever...magnetically.


It keeps constantly "cleaning domains arrangement" from only one directional orientation to develop at the millisecond level of time.




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:49:15 PM
THE ONLY START UP "SETTINGS" ON THIS TYPE OF GENERATORS:

The only requirement whenever starting these type of generators -from cold- (after long periods of inactivity)- is to start first at a low "idle" speed...to start "waking up" all randomly set steel alignments...which set them in the reversal axis spatial positioning, ready for higher speeds...


Something similar to what we need to do whenever starting an ICE farting machine...idle at low speed to get the right temperatures on  metals, plus allow oil pump to grease all rotating components...
except that the time for these generators in only a  couple of minutes.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 27, 2022, 05:55:33 PM

Hi PmgR,


You were right in the first part, until you wrote the bold sentence by me: "Each Group has three coils in series"...and so, from there on, the explanation  is not right.
That is incorrect, each group has Four (4) Coils in series.


This is all about understanding Spatial Geometry...in this setups...


We do not need to be "required" to use any specific configuration of number of poles...as long as we can combine Pairs in series of single coils all along the 360º circumference.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
@Ufopolitics


My write up is correct. I think you probably overlooked the very last line.


For each phase, coils in groups are wired in series as group1 - group2 + group3 - group4 (N-S-N-S)


For each phase, each group 1-4 is in series as well. So total of 12 coils per phase in series. Each group 1-4 of course in proper polarity to match the rotors (N-S-N-S) and have the induction effects add up instead of cancel out.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 06:08:16 PM
Series 3 stator coils.
Distributed windings.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 06:13:20 PM
I see it’s quieter at ( less interruptions /FE noise / tonnage??)
And no sneakers needed to run back and forth to read the page ( do to oversized images posted repeatedly in this thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831 (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831)


Please send lancaIV to  addiction rehab. ;D
Guy is on something.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 06:18:18 PM



Wrong again...


The "key" is not any relaxation...anywhere.


Every Pair of Coils from each Group are REVERSING POLARIZATION on a timely bases.


In a Four Group set, Two Pairs of Coils are reversing polarity simultaneously...


In a Six Group of Coils Three Pairs are reversing polarity at unison.


There is absolutely NO COILS COLLAPSING TO ZERO -IN STATIONARY ROTORS- AT ANY POINT OF THE ENTIRE OPERATION HERE!!!

So no "relaxation" but reversal of domains at molecular steel levels.


At the same token, these constant reversals do not allow steel cores to saturate ever...magnetically.


It keeps constantly "cleaning domains arrangement" from only one directional orientation to develop at the millisecond level of time.




Ufopolitics


1. Field reversal means going through ZERO. That means field collapsing. And yes- ferromagnetic material domains changing it's orientation  :)
2. Please explain mechanismo of gain.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 06:38:17 PM

1. Field reversal means going through ZERO. That means field collapsing. And yes- ferromagnetic material domains changing it's orientation  :)
2. Please explain mechanismo of gain.


Cheers,
Pix


1- If we are talking about fractions of miliseconds taken in the reversal time, from positive to negative as neg to pos...then can you figure out the timing that it takes to "pass" by the zero line?


Answer: The time passing by zero line is such small fraction of time, that in our Scientific Community, we call it to  "disregard it"... ;D


2- Sure, if you can imagine FIRST, the rotation of a massless, weightless, entity which can go through steel and copper in zero time, and cut it like a knife does to air...without absolutely any obstruction...


Versus moving 50 pounds of steel and copper to do just the same exact, operation...


Thing here is that that "ENTITY" called Magnetic Field can reach speeds that never any mass body could ever reach...


Can you analyze and compare?


Good enough?




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 07:13:15 PM

You are dead wrong pal...period.
No "Fuel" is used here, except for the "Fuel" of DC Magnetic Field GHOSTS DANCING IN A CIRCULAR MOTION... ;D

Ufopolitics

Maybe so, but you have nothing but your words.

....The "key" is not any relaxation...anywhere....   It depends on what we mean by relaxation.

I have worked with Pierre.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 07:39:20 PM
Maybe so, but you have nothing but your words.


Please allow me to Laugh Out Loud... ;D ...or ROTFLMAO

I have worked with Pierre.


Great!!!...so  maybe you could reveal "his secrets" here....hahahahahahahahaha


Oh, this was funny!! ;D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 07:47:21 PM
Ufopolitics:
You're a funny guy.
You have been standing in the place for a long time. Don't move because it may fall.

You probably believe in UFOs and Santa Claus.

Uhahahaha
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 27, 2022, 07:47:30 PM

1- If we are talking about fractions of miliseconds taken in the reversal time, from positive to negative as neg to pos...then can you figure out the timing that it takes to "pass" by the zero line?


Answer: The time passing by zero line is such small fraction of time, that in our Scientific Community, we call it to  "disregard it"... ;D


2- Sure, if you can imagine FIRST, the rotation of a massless, weightless, entity which can go through steel and copper in zero time, and cut it like a knife does to air...without absolutely any obstruction...


Versus moving 50 pounds of steel and copper to do just the same exact, operation...


Thing here is that that "ENTITY" called Magnetic Field can reach speeds that never any mass body could ever reach...


Can you analyze and compare?


Good enough?




Cheers
Ufopolitics


1. "Disregard it because you think it is happening a short time ".  :D  it is not working like that. What is enough of short time to disregard it, in your opinion?? Milisecond? Microsecond? I think you are joking.  Also, typical Si-based laminated ferromagnetic steel do not like  quick pulsed signals, typical AC motor stator and rotor are done from "transformer steel" laminations and they are working good  at 50-60Hz. Increase in frequency increases eddy current losses and produces a heat, and abrupt changes are chocked because solenoids do not like abrupt changes of current. In Holcomb device I see regular stator from 3 phase motor, made from laminated  silocone based "transformer steel".


2....and you have a transformer  :D . Flipping domains by "massless, weightless entity". No mater how fast you are going to do this flipping, Lenz law applies plus core losses.


 The same situation happens when you put slip ring AC motor with wound rotor in "locked rotor" mode of operation. You have also "massless, weightless entity cutting through the steel and copper", no physical rotation. And it is eqiuvalent of transformer operation, nobody claimed any OU there  ;)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 07:51:16 PM
Pix: I agree 1,2
There is a lot of confidence that Holcomb is a scam. Looking for sponsors.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 07:53:05 PM
Seriously now... 8)




I found a while back a glitch on the previous Diagram  I  posted from Holcomb Patent, as also member Bistander did, and brought it to my attention on EF...


So here are the errors outlined in red circles, as they look shorted out by adding the white dots (white connection circles)...


But, basically this is also to see clearly how Two Coils are exactly paired at 180º and driven by just one chanel.


I outlined Coils 8 and 16, apart by 180º, as connected to CH 8


Now, it seems Coils Pairs are connected in Parallel between them...then running to Chanels  -/+ ...However, this Chanels are reversing polarity every 180º turn.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 08:13:08 PM
Pix: I agree 1,2
There is a lot of confidence that Holcomb is a scam. Looking for sponsors.


Oui, messie, sil vous plait...



If Holcomb is a Scam...then your friend's Pierre Cotnoir DZ Generator was also a Scam?


What's the difference?...except a different config, but same, exact principle?


Au revoir... ;D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 08:22:19 PM

Oui, messie, sil vous plait...



If Holcomb is a Scam...then your friend's Pierre Cotnoir DZ Generator was also a Scam?


What's the difference?...except a different config, but same, exact principle?


Au revoir... ;D

You think plugging one coil into another will give you OU. Hahahaa

You can't prove anything. Only blablabla

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
You think plugging one coil into another will give you OU. Hahahaa

You can't prove anything. Only blablabla


Maybe so, but you have nothing but your words.


Messie, sil vous plait...


See that image below?...it dates back to August 2016, ...when you and your friend Pierre Cotnoir were still learning about magnetic fields... ;D


 So, keep believing I got nothing but "my words", "nothing in my hands"...


Just to mention something "slightly" over Cotnoir Setup...


He was using maybe around a 30 to 40 % of Output, just because the inner stator he used...with one single coil...


He could have done 60 to 70% more if he would've used a round armature from a Motor with several windings in series...


Capisci?




Ooops, my bad, it was French, not Italian...so, let me fix this...




¿Comprenez vous?






Au revoir








Ufopolitique... ;D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 27, 2022, 08:33:07 PM
Can we please be nice to each other....


@Ufopolitics
Yes, there are mistakes in his patents. I have found several in the ones I have gone through. I have gone through tons of patents in my career and that's just the way it is. No matter how often you proofread, you overlook things. On top of that, whoever reviews patents is supposed to fully understand them, but my experience is, most of the time they don't. In most cases only the claims are thoroughly examined and research is done to other inventions in the area to see if anyone else has claimed something like it.


@r2fpl
Whatever happened with Pierre and DZ2? How come he never went back to rebuilding his original DZ generator? It was the only working prototype.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 08:47:11 PM
Can we please be nice to each other....


Hello PmgR,


But I was being nice to r2-d2 !, oops, sorry!!, meant to r2fpl !

@Ufopolitics
Yes, there are mistakes in his patents. I have found several in the ones I have gone through. I have gone through tons of patents in my career and that's just the way it is. No matter how often you proofread, you overlook things. On top of that, whoever reviews patents is supposed to fully understand them, but my experience is, most of the time they don't. In most cases only the claims are thoroughly examined and research is done to other inventions in the area to see if anyone else has claimed something like it.


I know that PmgR,


I was just pointing out the errors...but basically analyzing coils setup geometrically...versus chanels.

@r2fpl
Whatever happened with Pierre and DZ2? How come he never went back to rebuilding his original DZ generator? It was the only working prototype.


I already asked him for the "secrets"...but nothing yet...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 27, 2022, 09:45:51 PM
Hello Ufo, &/or anyone,
In that circular wiring diagram, Fig. 22, posted above, how many of the eight channels are energizing coils at any instant? I realize the 8 channels are sequenced as to cause 2 poles to migrate around the core and assume each pole consists of, or spans, multiple teeth & coils, right? Just trying to get a handle on how it is accomplished

I also assume each channel is simply switched at rotation frequency and not modulated. Is that right?

Thanks.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 10:50:19 PM
Hello Ufo, &/or anyone,
In that circular wiring diagram, Fig. 22, posted above, how many of the eight channels are energizing coils at any instant?


All eight channels are on all the time during operation.



I realize the 8 channels are sequenced as to cause 2 poles to migrate around the core and assume each pole consists of, or spans, multiple teeth & coils, right? Just trying to get a handle on how it is accomplished


The best way is to watch this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1VJ65LcXM&t=264s) starting at 0.45 to see animation, which is also based on the same config. or 16 poles rotor and 4 magnetic poles

I also assume each channel is simply switched at rotation frequency and not modulated. Is that right?

Thanks.
bi


When you see video animation, you would see the answer.


But, yes, in this case of four groups conforming four poles, NSNS, configured each 2 group (NS) by Pairs of coils apart by 180º...What channels do is to reverse polarity, by reversing voltage through an H Bridge of MOSFET's....where the excitation to base is operated by the PLC...or microprocesor.


The point is simple, start> all coils ON, then only two pairs, remember one pair is across two groups NS, (one per group, one NS, other SN) start to reverse polarity, passing to the next group and so on...until a full group has changed its polarity and so all the rest...


Group1= N1N2N3N4 >S-1 G2=S1S2S3S4>N-1 G3=N1N2N3N4>S-1G4=S1S2S3S4>N-1
Where G1 N4 will reverse Adding to G2 S-1, while G2 reverses S4 adding to G3 N-1...and so on...
Edit 1: I changed S0 for S-1 not to confuse NO or SO...




Hey, I got a question for you,


What is the advantage, for this scenario to reverse coils polarity in series versus in a parallel connection, like it is connected in FIG 22?


I forgot, but I think in inductance is opposite to resistors in series or parallel...related to V & A...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 27, 2022, 11:19:17 PM
Thanks Ufo,
Multiple component inductance combine like resistors in series and parallel connection. Capacitors are opposite.
About advantage, series vs parallel, for coils, maintaining the same mmf for each coil, you'd have to adjust turn count and wire size, then the result would be the same, no advantage to the series or parallel. This assumes the coils are identical to each other. The designer chooses which to use for ease of winding and connecting. In some strange cases, parallel connected coils can support circulating currents which are undesirable so series connection is preferred.

I'll have more on the coil sequencing. You confirm what I thought. Have you verified this is how he is doing it, or telling me how'd you do it? There is a fallacy in that method. I'll elaborate latter.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 11:43:01 PM
Thanks Bistander,


Ok, so it is better series connected, but not much difference...


And no, that is the way I "assume" based on circuit from page 22 and video animation...


I have not tried that single coils setup as Holcomb, I have used overlapped coils before, but wound a bit differently...


Wonder where is the "fallacy"...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hermesatar on March 28, 2022, 04:36:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzhKpEqUgc
Hi, Ufopolitics
I have a few questions about your schematics from 2012:
Can a NPN or a PNP transistor be used, instead of the N-channel MOSFET?
The coil, is it better to use an aircoil? instead of a coil on a ferrite core?
The diodes, As it is cold electricity. Do the diodes warm up?

The cheap 1N4148 has a reverse voltage of 75 Volt and a Average forward current[/font]of 150 mA[/font]
[/font]Could 1N4148 be used or should I use a fast Schottky diode with a higher reverse voltage?[/font]
[/font]Best Wishes, Hermes
[/font]
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 28, 2022, 04:59:47 AM
In other words, no explination as to how it might work in such a
manner as to give O.U..
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 28, 2022, 06:52:07 AM
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ROUND.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 28, 2022, 06:55:11 AM
FLOOR WHEN A SO CALL GENERATOR ELIMINATE LENZ, EDDY CURRENT, AND BACK EMF IT IS
OVER UNITY.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 28, 2022, 09:10:35 AM
Ufopolitics:
You've been working with it for 20 years and still only spinning the magnetic field.
You want it to magically increase its power.
You don't understand LENZ and what it does I guess. You should have understood this long ago, but you still think LENZ can be removed.
You can't talk normally anymore. Do you want him to reveal a secret? why should i do this? It's funny.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 28, 2022, 10:55:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzhKpEqUgc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzhKpEqUgc)
Hi, Ufopolitics
I have a few questions about your schematics from 2012:
Can a NPN or a PNP transistor be used, instead of the N-channel MOSFET?
The coil, is it better to use an aircoil? instead of a coil on a ferrite core?
The diodes, As it is cold electricity. Do the diodes warm up?

The cheap 1N4148 has a reverse voltage of 75 Volt and a Average forward current[/font]of 150 mA[/font]
[/font]Could 1N4148 be used or should I use a fast Schottky diode with a higher reverse voltage?[/font]
[/font]Best Wishes, Hermes
[/font]


Reverse diodes and you have a boost converter .


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 28, 2022, 03:06:35 PM
FLOOR WHEN A SO CALL GENERATOR ELIMINATE LENZ, EDDY CURRENT, AND BACK EMF IT IS
OVER UNITY.

O.U. or may be just unity.

electric polarity                  + or  -
electric potential                high or low potential
electric potential                constant or changing

electric current direction    forward or reverse
electric current                   high or low
electric current                   constant or changing


magnetic polarity               N or S
magnetic potential             high or low
magnetic field                    expanding or collapsing or constant

electric durrent flows because of electric potential
electric currents produce magnetic fields

resistance                           transformation into chaotic molecular kinetic energy as heat
Inductance                         reluctance and reactance or respectively expansion or contraction
  of a magnetic field in space   and/or   within the fields closely associated with atoms and
   molecules
magnetic fields bound with and/or in interactions with physical atoms are affected by the
  limitations of the    speed     at which atoms can physically reorient in direction due to
  their inertial drag and electric field drag
current lags behind potential in time (voltage can shift more rapidly than amperage)
capacitance is a specific    static  electric charge storage due to coulomb force    within a three
   dimensional region within the fields surrounding atoms and molecules

changes in the magnitude of a magnetic field are resisted by something which is kind of
analogous to the inertia of physical objects

magnetic fields during the reversing of their polarity decrease in volume and strength
  then increase in volume and strength (even when physical magnets are rotated to reorient those
  polarities)

Lenz's observations are akin to Newton's observations of action and reaction, if you get rid of
them you have nothing / no action at all. 
                                        also
The model of increasing efficiency until unity is exceeded, is a flawed one.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 28, 2022, 03:15:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzhKpEqUgc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzhKpEqUgc)
Hi, Ufopolitics
I have a few questions about your schematics from 2012:
Can a NPN or a PNP transistor be used, instead of the N-channel MOSFET?
The coil, is it better to use an aircoil? instead of a coil on a ferrite core?
The diodes, As it is cold electricity. Do the diodes warm up?

The cheap 1N4148 has a reverse voltage of 75 Volt and a Average forward current[/font]of 150 mA[/font]
[/font]Could 1N4148 be used or should I use a fast Schottky diode with a higher reverse voltage?[/font]
[/font]Best Wishes, Hermes
[/font]


Hello Hermes,


1- Regular, typical transistors can NOT be used, only MOSFETS can be used, and fast switching, high currents (A) typically the ones used on High Wattage Motor controllers.
FETS are High and Low switchers, N-Channel is an NPN, P-Channel is a PNP...but with the MOSFET stronger, more robust config.
2- Air Core WILL NOT work, Coil MUST have a Steel Core.
3- Diodes I used NTE576 5A, 400V, Ultrafast switcher.


Yes, Diodes get hot, MOSFETS get hot, Coil gets hot, so they must be on Heatsinks, plus air fan controlled.


Cold side electricity can not be stored in a Typical Electrolytic Capacitor.


Note: This is NOT related to Thread Topic, Hermes, so, please,  make this your last post related to your questions

Thanks






Ufopolitics


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 28, 2022, 03:51:32 PM
A VERY SIMPLE TEST TO DO...





I have recommended to Floor (and to anyone who wants to do it) to conduct a simple test to verify the difference whenever we rotate just the DC Magnetic Fields, since He asked if there was a simple way to check this out.


All you need is a Universal Motor: Which is a brushed armature with wound stators...and you could find them in several tools, like hand ac drills, Dremel and Ryobi small hand tool, Vacuum cleaners motors, etc,etc...


Then you need to get the same exact commutator number of plates as your chosen motor...or could be double, say a 16 plates could work with a 32 commutator elements, by joining 2 plates you have a 16 plates comm.


Then, a very small motor, you will have to build a base mount with continuous slip rings, typically found in car alternators, and brushes mounted to run on the 16 plates comm and the slip rings.


Solder all 16 wires remotely from universal rotor to your small motor base commutator, keeping same positioning as in the motor....


Secure the Universal rotor firmly inside its stator...and run power to slip rings while spinning small motor...your output would be out of the universal motor stator.


Start applying smaller voltages first, while spinning slowly...Scope your two signals, Input to Rotor, Output from Stator.




And that's it...check out how it behaves at low and at higher speeds while increasing power.


You will just need two PSU's:


1- To  run small motor, maybe 5-10V 1-2 A
2- To feed power to Rotor through brushes, normally these motors I mentioned above work with 120V and will get to high RPM's...so, you could go that high with PSU...


Note the rotor will get hot, since its built in fan would not be turning, so, keep measuring temp. not to burn it.


A small cylindrical magnet mounted on a shaft, could have a fan installed and will spin freely, just by fields rotation, without needing any power to it...and it will cool your stationary rotor.


Also, you could apply AC Power to stationary rotor and see the difference for yourself in the output...versus DC Power feed. And you could use your same PSU, with a Diode AC/DC Bridge to regulate your AC Power to Rotor.


Simple Test Guys...and the best way to know for yourself if this works or not, is by getting at least this simple test done...




Not using several relays, Not complicated Logic Circuits, no MOSFET's, no Transformers...simple and easy to the point test.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 28, 2022, 04:03:14 PM
Show me.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 28, 2022, 04:05:12 PM
Show me.


I am working on it...


But You could do it too...I am very busy with other projects...but I will try to find the time.


I mean, Pix went through so much work lately...trying to make a Generator out of the "this one is interesting" Thread, with a big Three Phase Motor...I saw pictures, impressive work!!


And You guys can not do this such simple test??




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 28, 2022, 04:26:43 PM

I am working on it...


But You could do it too...I am very busy with other projects...but I will try to find the time.


I mean, Pix went through so much work lately...trying to make a Generator out of the "this one is interesting" Thread, with a big Three Phase Motor...I saw pictures, impressive work!!


And You guys can not do this such simple test??

Cheers
Ufopolitics


At least I did put some effort  rather than talk.
Wish You a  big success making OU with Holcomb  ;D


Cheers,
pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 28, 2022, 05:01:10 PM

At least I did put some effort  rather than talk.
Wish You a  big success making OU with Holcomb  ;D


Cheers,
pix




Of course, you wanted to make sure if it works or not...I agree it is the only way to know for sure...
Unfortunately it didn't work...but, this is the way we can ever get to know...


And thanks, but it is not "exactly" how Holcomb works the test I suggested above...same principle though.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 28, 2022, 05:23:43 PM
Did make temporary post to a builders board for post 189 above

https://overunity.com/19074/builders-investigation-into-things-that-spin-with-gain-and-other/msg565096/#new (https://overunity.com/19074/builders-investigation-into-things-that-spin-with-gain-and-other/msg565096/#new)

Just to keep it in easy to find place to share with builders ….


With Gratitude
Chet K



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 28, 2022, 06:55:21 PM
Hello Ramset et Al,


Here is the simple schematic for test connections and structure...for sake of simplicity to understand it, I did not add any mountings nor base stands.


It should be understood that second flat type commutator is fixed to a base, as also the small motor.


Please, make sure you wrap your rotor with some tape which holds high temperatures, as to make it pretty stock/locked inside Stator, so when you load output it will not try to spin lose!!


Brushed Symmetrical Motors Armatures are wound by series coils in a close loop with a derivation to each commutator element solder contact...So, +/- Brushes divides the whole armature in two (for two brushed motors) so, it divides Rotor in a perfect Half with N/S Magnetic Field set at 180 degrees apart.


So, if we just rotate the feeding +/- brushes to the armature static coils through this remote setup with the small motor on the right, we will be spinning just the DC Magnetic Field of the Rotor within the stator...


Your Stator Coils, connected in series would be your output


Your Rotor would be your Input at the Continuous Slip Ring Brushes contact.


These I/O could be measured in a Two Channel Scope.


The Input for the small motor needs to be isolated from a second PSU, small power, maybe 5V and max 2A...


I used a Flat type commutator as the fixed one where brushes spin, since it is more secure at higher speeds,as it will not loosen contacts by centrifugal forces pushing brushes away from contacts...


You could also "beef up" your Stator with thicker wire and more turns...for higher output levels...or get a full 360º wound stator from another AC Induction motor of same inner diameter as your rotor...so there will not be a too wide air gap...


As you could do a lot more of improvements as you like...or adding an AC Cap to Input to smooth the waves...or adding a Diode Bridge to run DC Output to store it in Supercaps...


It would be good to add reflective tape to your small motor shaft, to read the RPM's you are turning your Magnetic Field...


Make sure you keep reading the temperature of all coils, Input-Output...do not get "excited" by the results and forget that this is NOT a Real Generator... ;D


It is a very "interesting test"... :)




You will have fun, when loading your output... ;D




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: broli on March 28, 2022, 08:00:25 PM
Looks very similar to what Thane Heins is/has been doing:


THE NEW NORMAL FOR HUMANITY AND PHYSICS IN 2022 AND BEYOND... - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibg2FrDogYY)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 28, 2022, 08:19:00 PM
...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 28, 2022, 09:19:59 PM



Of course, you wanted to make sure if it works or not...I agree it is the only way to know for sure...
Unfortunately it didn't work...but, this is the way we can ever get to know...


And thanks, but it is not "exactly" how Holcomb works the test I suggested above...same principle though.

Cheers
Ufopolitics


Actually it worked.
The part when I tested 3 phase motor to work as asynchronous generator was a success.
Everyone could make an cheap emergency generator out of lawn mover engine and regular 3 phase squirrel cage motor  with capacitors. Don't even needs to be spinned above nominal speed.
Efficiency of such ansynchronous generator is 75-85%, better than some regular generators. The only regulation it needs is to increase capacity if load increases.


Converting AC motor to PM generator is not very efficient setup to run ac inductive loads. Yes , I got nice voltages: 153V at 1200rpm up to 200V at 2000 rpm per phase. Didn't tested higher rpm's.
Such PM generator is best to spin well above nominal speed and rectify output with 3 phase rectifier. Then it is  very efficient machine.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: broli on March 28, 2022, 09:25:09 PM
I have to say as soon as they started talking about "reducing your consumption by half" and claiming the discovery to be literally the permeability of iron, red flags started going up.


Any device with that much excess energy can easily be looped back, the "inline" aspect of it makes it shady as hell.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 28, 2022, 09:49:27 PM
I have to say as soon as they started talking about "reducing your consumption by half" and claiming the discovery to be literally the permeability of iron, red flags started going up.



AMEN.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on March 28, 2022, 10:11:01 PM
I am hopefully going to speak with someone who visited the claimants facility soon !


Perhaps get a bit more insight  ?
EDIT
To bistander comment below
I can ask another party about that too !


Hopefully next few days


Respectfully
Chet K


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 28, 2022, 11:50:35 PM
I am hopefully going to speak with someone who visited the claimants facility soon !


Perhaps get a bit more insight  ?

Hi ramset,
Can you ask somebody in the area to check with DNV and see if that "Holcomb Energy System verification report from dnv.com" is actually valid and they stand behind it?
Thanks,
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 29, 2022, 12:10:52 AM

Here is the simple schematic for test connections and structure...for sake of simplicity to understand it, I did not add any mountings nor base stands.


and so on...

@ Ufopolitics

Thank you for the nicely done and simplified wiring example, although it's not what I
am inquiring about.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
What happens in the magnetic fields shared by the coils that might be novel/give rise to O.U. ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2022, 05:52:06 AM
floor,do You think probably in an EMP-magnet and its MMP-output and in-/out-put ratio  or Eta ?
Applied Biot-Savart-/Ampere-/Laplace law !?
WIPO : inventor Dr.res naturalis Pavel Imris,CSc

             or Andreas Schenk,applicant Max Planck Institut fuer Festkoerperphysik (Dresden)

Charles Gilbert Page and Garfield Jr A Wood and Hector :

rotoverter              transverter                ?
rotatory                 translatory              linear   

theme terms : beam,trajection

wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 29, 2022, 06:53:31 AM
@Lanka IV

I don't understand your question / statement.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2022, 07:17:10 AM
Parting the Duality ? Left/right side,above/below side,external/internal side !? Right/wrong side ?

An EP-magnet and its MMP !?  electret and/or magnetret function/applyability/potential

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_coil

Sincerely
OCWL

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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 29, 2022, 11:24:11 AM
@Lanka IV

I don't understand your question / statement.
To get LancaIV you have to sniff the same stuff he is on. :D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 29, 2022, 11:58:31 AM
Hello Ramset et Al,


Here is the simple schematic for test connections and structure...for sake of simplicity to understand it, I did not add any mountings nor base stands.


It should be understood that second flat type commutator is fixed to a base, as also the small motor.


Please, make sure you wrap your rotor with some tape which holds high temperatures, as to make it pretty stock/locked inside Stator, so when you load output it will not try to spin lose!!


Brushed Symmetrical Motors Armatures are wound by series coils in a close loop with a derivation to each commutator element solder contact...So, +/- Brushes divides the whole armature in two (for two brushed motors) so, it divides Rotor in a perfect Half with N/S Magnetic Field set at 180 degrees apart.


So, if we just rotate the feeding +/- brushes to the armature static coils through this remote setup with the small motor on the right, we will be spinning just the DC Magnetic Field of the Rotor within the stator...


Your Stator Coils, connected in series would be your output


Your Rotor would be your Input at the Continuous Slip Ring Brushes contact.


These I/O could be measured in a Two Channel Scope.

The Input for the small motor needs to be isolated from a second PSU, small power, maybe 5V and max 2A...


I used a Flat type commutator as the fixed one where brushes spin, since it is more secure at higher speeds,as it will not loosen contacts by centrifugal forces pushing brushes away from contacts...
You could also "beef up" your Stator with thicker wire and more turns...for higher output levels...or get a full 360º wound stator from another AC Induction motor of same inner diameter as your rotor...so there will not be a too wide air gap...


As you could do a lot more of improvements as you like...or adding an AC Cap to Input to smooth the waves...or adding a Diode Bridge to run DC Output to store it in Supercaps...
It would be good to add reflective tape to your small motor shaft, to read the RPM's you are turning your Magnetic Field...


Make sure you keep reading the temperature of all coils, Input-Output...do not get "excited" by the results and forget that this is NOT a Real Generator... ;D


It is a very "interesting test"... :)
You will have fun, when loading your output... ;D




Cheers
Ufopolitics


1. To get the same result it is simpler to use a slip ring AC motor , no need for your setup  :D
Slip Ring Induction Motor - Construction, Working and Its Speed Control (elprocus.com) (https://www.elprocus.com/what-is-slip-ring-induction-motor-and-its-working/)
Slip ring Induction Motor, How it works? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPn5Ou-N0b0)


Or even simpler, just use typical squirrel cage induction motor and connect  running capacitors in triangle  and rotate it.  You will get the same thing, AC output.
Cheers,
Pix





Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on March 29, 2022, 01:06:05 PM
EVEN SIMPLER A VARIABLE FREQUENCY 3 PHASE 240 VOLTS INVERTER FROM CHINA.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 29, 2022, 01:13:34 PM
I'm not objecting to the explaining of principles of operation, but to say that such and such
"really works", when that "such and such" is already a common and established principle or
method of operation can / seems to imply that there is O.U. there. There is no reason to think such ?

Virtually rotating magnetic polarities and three phase electricity are interesting wangles, for
sure and they "really work" / can be more efficient than other options in various applications.

I'm inclined to say 'so what'... and again ask,  is this Holcomb device topic, about increased efficiency
or O.U. exploration ?   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 29, 2022, 02:13:32 PM

1. To get the same result it is simpler to use a slip ring AC motor , no need for your setup  :D
Slip Ring Induction Motor - Construction, Working and Its Speed Control (elprocus.com) (https://www.elprocus.com/what-is-slip-ring-induction-motor-and-its-working/)
Slip ring Induction Motor, How it works? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPn5Ou-N0b0)


Or even simpler, just use typical squirrel cage induction motor and connect  running capacitors in triangle  and rotate it.  You will get the same thing, AC output.
Cheers,
Pix




Hello Pix,


Thanks for the suggestion, and that YT Video 3D Graphs were awesome, beautifully done...I am going to make something similar in graphics so it would be clearly understood.


However, It will simply NOT work as you are mentioning.


I still see you are not getting it right....you keep anchored to Constant Rotation of Three Phase AC Fields...it won't do it like that


I will repeat myself (again)


There MUST BE COMMUTATION (ALTERNATED SWITCHING) of the SERIES-PARALLEL Coils TO SPIN the DC Magnetic Fields!!


It is Not just to feed Coils continuously through slip rings...no matter if AC or DC feeding.


And so, I do NOT need to rotate the rotor...just the magnetic fields, man!!


But, look, I am making the whole thing so you ALL could watch it in your screens...the real thing...


Just a very small little motor would be rotating huge magnetic fields by COMMUTATION of a Symmetrical winding, found in any Universal Motor...


However, I will wind it myself, from a blank armature core...just to make sure the field width is exactly the same as the Generator Stator Fields...


I will not keep arguing with you or anyone else...until I show you ALL what I mean.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on March 29, 2022, 02:54:54 PM
floor,do You think probably in an EMP-magnet and its MMP-output and in-/out-put ratio  or Eta ?
Applied Biot-Savart-/Ampere-/Laplace law !?
WIPO : inventor Dr.res naturalis Pavel Imris,CSc

             or Andreas Schenk,applicant Max Planck Institut fuer Festkoerperphysik (Dresden)

Charles Gilbert Page and Garfield Jr A Wood and Hector :

rotoverter              transverter                ?
rotatory                 translatory              linear   

theme terms : beam,trajection

wmbr
OCWL


@Lanka

I don't want to discuss EMP tech. its weaponry, but also not O.U. .

I'm looking for how to do what can be done with permanent magnets, but
with out the permanent magnets. 

 If Holcomb's device is O.U., maybe it is closely related in some principles ?
Holcomb describes various of his devices but I do not think he understands their
O.U. functioning. 
                   Does his device really work ?  Why ?

Every event is mystical when we look deeply enough into it.  Intuition is the common
denominator in all communication.  The symbols / words when also held in common,
facilitate connection to specific areas of the brain, having to do with speech / make
thought accessible to convention and to conventional brain storage / memory...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 29, 2022, 03:05:47 PM



Hello Pix,


Thanks for the suggestion, and that YT Video 3D Graphs were awesome, beautifully done...I am going to make something similar in graphics so it would be clearly understood.


However, It will simply NOT work as you are mentioning.


I still see you are not getting it right....you keep anchored to Constant Rotation of Three Phase AC Fields...it won't do it like that


I will repeat myself (again)


There MUST BE COMMUTATION (ALTERNATED SWITCHING) of the SERIES-PARALLEL Coils TO SPIN the DC Magnetic Fields!!


It is Not just to feed Coils continuously through slip rings...no matter if AC or DC feeding.


And so, I do NOT need to rotate the rotor...just the magnetic fields, man!!


But, look, I am making the whole thing so you ALL could watch it in your screens...the real thing...


Just a very small little motor would be rotating huge magnetic fields by COMMUTATION of a Symmetrical winding, found in any Universal Motor...


However, I will wind it myself, from a blank armature core...just to make sure the field width is exactly the same as the Generator Stator Fields...


I will not keep arguing with you or anyone else...until I show you ALL what I mean.




Regards




Ufopolitics

Hello Ufo,

Pix is correct/you are mistaken. His video does a nice explanation. This "rotating magnetic field" in the 3-phase stator is what I've been attempting to show you for years. It may be difficult to grasp at first, but is quite eloquent. It is in fact a constant magnitude (as you call DC) magnetic field which travels in space (and steel) with stationary apparatus. No physical motion required, just polyphase AC applied to the winding.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 29, 2022, 03:15:27 PM


There MUST BE COMMUTATION (ALTERNATED SWITCHING) of the SERIES-PARALLEL Coils TO SPIN the DC Magnetic Fields!!


It is Not just to feed Coils continuously through slip rings...no matter if AC or DC feeding.


And so, I do NOT need to rotate the rotor...just the magnetic fields, man!!

Regards

Ufopolitics


Ufo, you don't need to rotate anything.
I already mentioned it many times - in Slip Ring AC motor when you LOCK rotor from rotating, and feed 3 balanced sinusoidal signals to the slip rings, you will have ecactly what you want to achieve with your commutator,slip rings and a small motor: rotating DC magnetic vector.
Such locked rotor situation is a TRANSFORMER.
And it doesn't matter which way you are going to rotate DC magnetic vector- by your slip rings and small motor, or by use of balanced 3 phase signal- LENZ law apply.
And no OU there.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 29, 2022, 03:43:18 PM

Ufo, you don't need to rotate anything.
I already mentioned it many times - in Slip Ring AC motor when you LOCK rotor from rotating, and feed 3 balanced sinusoidal signals to the slip rings, you will have ecactly what you want to achieve with your commutator,slip rings and a small motor: rotating DC magnetic vector.
Such locked rotor situation is a TRANSFORMER.
And it doesn't matter which way you are going to rotate DC magnetic vector- by your slip rings and small motor, or by use of balanced 3 phase signal- LENZ law apply.
And no OU there.


Cheers,
Pix


Thanks Pix,


In my setup, I do not need to go and find any EXTERNAL Three Phase balanced sinusoidal signals...I will generate them, I can make single phase, two phase or three phase and very well balanced...depending on the Generator Core and coils utilized.




I am going to start off a Single Phase Generator Head, built from factory windings first, without OEM Rotor, to make things simple to "digest"...and you know every single phase genny comes with two outputs, one Main AC and a secondary pair of coils which are typically connected to a running cap...right?


Well, those two secondary coils and cap are in charge to induce rotor coils back in a normal rotary generator...correct so far?


This is the famous "loop back" that takes place in the Excitation System (Stator Secondaries>Running Cap-Rotor Coils>Closed circuit with Diodes) of every Brushless Generator out there....


I will show you in real time, that after having the fields rotating, and adding the right input to exciter stationary coils in order that secondary start generating induced EMF...then... ;D


You will see how I get that running cap terminals and plug them into the Input of Stationary Rotor...then disconnect the power in (PSU) to Stationary Rotor and it will not collapse...it will keep feeding itself.


How is that to start a demonstration here?...


Just give me the time to set it all up...need to get a lot of stuff together first...then build, build and build...


However, I will be migrating all into a Moderated Thread...and you will see it all there...promise man!!




Cheers...We got it bro!!




Ufopolitics

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2022, 03:50:38 PM
Oh Yeah, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Um3jmQHhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Um3jmQHhI)


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander)
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APq-WBuPW4uV9YTG6k8wayo7XzgrN8mqGw:1648562080612&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander&client=firefox-b-d&fir=LoKUfu-VVMoAoM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BMxuJKavSGk8KrM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253B9R5LKAxUhew2jM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BSdAA3BMPOXhieM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253Bo-SZTu33hrlQ5M%252CwRjfP4tKl9MDvM%252C_%253Bk7sxhXwgH1PATM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BqvMSpR_-uR4ftM%252CvLnNz-3ekWYMzM%252C_%253ByT9acga_SrreSM%252CwRjfP4tKl9MDvM%252C_%253B-ko0_cqXdm1zTM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253Br9LHGlNxEYwrNM%252CCJ1UaHzER1dmZM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRSuPtckarInM-stpudbjLJYVdpmQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjawtGpvOv2AhUJ8LsIHXi0CqcQjJkEegQIHBAC&biw=1366&bih=546&dpr=1
o so disharmonic,the mass of info ! ::)
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 29, 2022, 03:59:31 PM

Hello to All,



Let me be straight and right to the point here...




I know everything about the history of "Loopers" in the past...and it never ends right and well.


I will NOT hide ANY "secrets" from anyone who is willing to replicate my design...as I am NOT planning to Patent nothing...


However, I do need "Protection"...but wait...do not get disappointed... :)


My "Protection" will be that as many of you as possible, are successfull in replicating my setup, BUT, in exchange, I will ask you to SHARE IT WORLD WIDE and as fast as you could!!


IT NEEDS TO BE WIDE SPREAD AND VIRAL...ASAP!!


I have more than 7000 subscribers in my YT Channel...But not enough...it needs to be spread fast and viral...




That's all folks




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 29, 2022, 04:05:18 PM
Hey Pix,


Man, did you finally take the same stuff that Ianca is taking?...LOL  ;D


Just checking...




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 29, 2022, 06:10:02 PM
Just rotating the poles will not provided good induction in the three phase output coils. The poles must have a variable flux as they rotate. He claims that he  achieves this via the inner coils which have a variable amplitude flux over the three active coils in each pole (shown in the patent).


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 29, 2022, 06:55:58 PM
@Ufopolitics et al


Some points I would like to make:


1. The driver circuits that are in that particular patent are nothing special as far as I can tell (correct me if I am wrong). It's a simple bidirectional coil driver (similar to what a bidirectional motor driver looks like). Nevertheless, from his patents (and I have read all of the most relevant ones now) it appears Holcom doesn't understand where his excess energy is coming from, repeatedly stating electron spin in electrical steel, high permittivity etc as the explanation. That is not the cause, as we know it takes energy (B*H which is the area under the hysteresis curve) to magnetize and demagnetize material and there is no gain in that). But maybe he states that because he really doesn't know and probably had to give some explanation in the patent (after all he is not an electrical engineer; I believe was a medical doctor in the past). Looking at how detailed his patents are, I don't believe he is deliberately steering someone in the wrong direction.


2. If you take a look at the old Pierre Cotnoir's DZ generator threads, you will see Pierre was using a similar scheme of a rotating magnetic field generated by DC currents, but with relays instead of FETs. Although Pierre's device seemed to work from his videos, nobody has been able to replicate it.


3. I believe that the reason that Holcombs device works is because he has found a way to circumvent BEMF from coupling back into the rotor driving coils. I am not so sure if he actually understands that that is what he has done as he keeps on stating no BEMF because the rotor is fixed, but that's not the reason why it works. The reason it works is because the BEMF is diverted and doesn't make its way back to the driving coils. I will need to confirm what I think is happening with some calculations to be 100% sure, but based on what I can picture in my head so far, it should work that way.


Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR




This would be my take on how OU is acheived with this device, BEMF circumvention via the three phase stator core. A reproduction of the magnetics in FEMM would allow the coupling factors to be verified both ways between the energizing coils and the output coils. It is also noteworthy that one patent implementation has an additional stator core between the inner core and the output core. This has no windings.


L192


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 29, 2022, 07:45:03 PM
@L192


Yes that inner part with no windings is visible in the simulation in his video, yet not in the real device. The only thing I can think of is that it is expanding the poles of the very inner rotor so they spread a larger area to avoid saturation. I have to dug into this a bit more to see if there is another reason.


Update
The configuration for his simulation image is actually a stator-double rotor-stator-rotor configuration, but same operating principle, all rotor fields re-inforcing themselves. Only reason this is done is to increase the power output.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 29, 2022, 08:09:16 PM
Just rotating the poles will not provided good induction in the three phase output coils. The poles must have a variable flux as they rotate. He claims that he  achieves this via the inner coils which have a variable amplitude flux over the three active coils in each pole (shown in the patent).


L192


Lenz law still apply. 
It applies for rotation ( motor/generator action).
It applies for flux intensity variation ( transformer action).


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 29, 2022, 08:12:50 PM
Hey Pix,


Man, did you finally take the same stuff that Ianca is taking?...LOL  ;D


Just checking...


Ufopolitics


Didn't took any stuff in my life.  :)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 29, 2022, 08:33:14 PM
@L192:


Does the constant Rotating Magnetic Field on a Typical 1,2,3 Phase Rotary Generator ever fluctuate (Variable Flux amplitude)?


@Pix:


 I was joking about what you wrote before..."taking  same stuff as Ianca in order to understand him"... :)




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2022, 08:41:58 PM
Overunity as "absolute rated output ,<=100%" by input >= -100%",by negative and positive energy scale

                   
                      absolute negative to absolute positive : - 100%  to 0  to 100%
same re-/search section like Holcomb :
https://overunity.com/12177/thane-c-heins-regenx-generator/msg565144/#new (https://overunity.com/12177/thane-c-heins-regenx-generator/msg565144/#new)


here we see Nikola Tesla´s Universal-transformer-Genius in application manner :

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents)

Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.: youtube-ing , a trial to translate 2D to 4D  ::) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geT94tV-xBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geT94tV-xBM) and right side offers in vid-aud
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on March 29, 2022, 08:42:54 PM
Oh Yeah, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Um3jmQHhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Um3jmQHhI)


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander)
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APq-WBuPW4uV9YTG6k8wayo7XzgrN8mqGw:1648562080612&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander&client=firefox-b-d&fir=LoKUfu-VVMoAoM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BMxuJKavSGk8KrM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253B9R5LKAxUhew2jM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BSdAA3BMPOXhieM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253Bo-SZTu33hrlQ5M%252CwRjfP4tKl9MDvM%252C_%253Bk7sxhXwgH1PATM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BqvMSpR_-uR4ftM%252CvLnNz-3ekWYMzM%252C_%253ByT9acga_SrreSM%252CwRjfP4tKl9MDvM%252C_%253B-ko0_cqXdm1zTM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253Br9LHGlNxEYwrNM%252CCJ1UaHzER1dmZM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRSuPtckarInM-stpudbjLJYVdpmQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjawtGpvOv2AhUJ8LsIHXi0CqcQjJkEegQIHBAC&biw=1366&bih=546&dpr=1 (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APq-WBuPW4uV9YTG6k8wayo7XzgrN8mqGw:1648562080612&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=rexresearch+robert+alexander&client=firefox-b-d&fir=LoKUfu-VVMoAoM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BMxuJKavSGk8KrM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253B9R5LKAxUhew2jM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BSdAA3BMPOXhieM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253Bo-SZTu33hrlQ5M%252CwRjfP4tKl9MDvM%252C_%253Bk7sxhXwgH1PATM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253BqvMSpR_-uR4ftM%252CvLnNz-3ekWYMzM%252C_%253ByT9acga_SrreSM%252CwRjfP4tKl9MDvM%252C_%253B-ko0_cqXdm1zTM%252C5cNYclfs4d4KgM%252C_%253Br9LHGlNxEYwrNM%252CCJ1UaHzER1dmZM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRSuPtckarInM-stpudbjLJYVdpmQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjawtGpvOv2AhUJ8LsIHXi0CqcQjJkEegQIHBAC&biw=1366&bih=546&dpr=1)
o so disharmonic,the mass of info ! ::)
wmbr
OCWL


What is so special about the motor that needs to be powered both from AC and DC power supply? ::)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 29, 2022, 09:12:41 PM

What is so special about the motor that needs to be powered both from AC and DC power supply? ::)

The AC is a load, not source. Like a RediLine M-G, motor generator.
https://www.kollmorgen.com/sites/default/files/public_downloads/redi-line_users-guide_en-US_revA.pdf

Neat units. I have one. 24Vdc to 115Vac.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2022, 09:13:43 PM

What is so special about the motor that needs to be powered both from AC and DC power supply? ::)
To not overcome ,in average,the rated output (differing rated from maximal) because EE-machines https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonanzkatastrophe
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2022, 09:31:04 PM
#210 : energy and power UNLIMITED and ultra-cheap : is the society global ready for this case,the industries ,the finance system ?!
                                                                       2012/2013
                                                                    ten years later  2022/2023    !
                                                              twenty years later  2032/2033    ?                                     

                                   https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/3555/ (https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/3555/)

                            https://overunity.com/search2/ (https://overunity.com/search2/)    entering : THINKER ? Progress included ?!

Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.:                     


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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 29, 2022, 10:16:34 PM
An AC generator with a fixed rotor Flux would cut the stator coil wires,  as the rotor comes into registration with the respective stator coil, so the stator coil wires would see a flux change effectively.


In the Holcome and DZ generator only flux linkage couples the coils as there is no physical flux movement (flux cutting).


In the DZ generator moving fixed amplitude poles across the rotor produces very poor induction in the rotor coil. I found that the rotating poles needed their flux modulated in a sinosoidal fashion as they crossed the rotor to obtain reasonable induction. However energy is wasted when the stator coils are energised out of registration with the rotor. Also relatively low turns for each stator coil is required to minimise inductance, allowing the current rise in the coil to occur within the switch period. Holding these low inductance coils on for several switch periods is wasteful in terms of I/R losses. Modulating the coils so the current was always changing in each coil did mitigate this while improving induction.


L192 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on March 30, 2022, 12:08:50 AM
An AC generator with a fixed rotor Flux would cut the stator coil wires,  as the rotor comes into registration with the respective stator coil, so the stator coil wires would see a flux change effectively.


In the Holcome and DZ generator only flux linkage couples the coils as there is no physical flux movement (flux cutting).


In the DZ generator moving fixed amplitude poles across the rotor produces very poor induction in the rotor coil. I found that the rotating poles needed their flux modulated in a sinosoidal fashion as they crossed the rotor to obtain reasonable induction. However energy is wasted when the stator coils are energised out of registration with the rotor. Also relatively low turns for each stator coil is required to minimise inductance, allowing the current rise in the coil to occur within the switch period. Holding these low inductance coils on for several switch periods is wasteful in terms of I/R losses. Modulating the coils so the current was always changing in each coil did mitigate this while improving induction.


L192

Hi L192,
Did you find that out by personal experiment on the actual device? And the DZ isn't the same as the Holcombe device, is it?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 09:09:43 AM


I built the DZ and you can see my findings reported in the Pierre Cotnoir threads along with images. I tried many configurations including relays and solid state and two  different sized rotors and stators


The DZ is not the same as the holcombe device apart from the concept of moving poles around a stator. DC energization of coils and possible saturation of steel is going to result in I/R losses in the form of


heat. You can see they have a fan on the top of the holcombe device this is indicative of this. Why they say in the video "no heat is generated" I do not know?


L192

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 09:39:41 AM
Read from this point  https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/1350/
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
Hello to All,


I read the whole DZ Generator Cotnoir Thread (94 pages)...and it was a big disappointment to see the end results, basically starting when Pierre decided to go away taking all his videos off the net, before any of you got to know every detail about his setup.


At the same time it was great to see such incredible builds, a lot of work there!!


@L192: Your build was very impressive, a lot of time and money spent!!...but basically very well put together...And I feel your frustration and disappointment not being able to achieve the expected results...


In my very honest opinion, and with all due respect to all that replicated there...the development process to Replicate DZ Generator was not handled properly from Page#1...not your fault at all.


1- The very first thing that was supposed to be done in Pierre Cotnoir Thread, since Page 1, like in any setup development is always a "Normal Procedure"...is to make a Main Diagram of ALL MAIN COMPONENTS PARTS AND CONNECTIONS.


1a- From the main Diagram, then it should have been reduced to a simple BLOCK DIAGRAM, to simplify the whole setup into Subsystems, which gives easier access to point something out on further discussions.


This very important part I never saw it there (maybe I missed it, but I don't think so, correct me if I am wrong)...as it serves as a Guide to refer all new incomer builders to go first to those TWO MAIN DIAGRAMS.


2- Is a consequence of not having #1 above...and that is to start randomly picking up where to concentrate first in your builds...as I noticed so many people concentrating first, in how to write the codes for the Arduino setup...or what type of Relays were used...or what diodes, or what Board # for the processor (Arduino), and a long etcetera, etcetera...
And of course...it concludes as disregarding some of the main Components, or leaving it for the end...


For example, no one ever asked, why Pierre used that Old Type and modified Bulky Transformer to charge and supply power to the switching coils as to charge the Supercaps?

Pierre could have used instead of that Bulky Transformer, a nice, newer, cheaper, less consuming...switching PWM Digital Display PSU...I mean, a 30V 10 Amps is so cheap in online shopping!!


Did you guys ever ask that question?...why an old transformer?




I noticed many replications did not include that Transformer.




But, forgetting about the Transformer...what about a Diagram for the way that Coils were WOUND?


Yes, I saw many Diagrams there about winding and setting coils...but they were all by replicators, "assuming or guessing" what Pierre meant...


Pierre only shows one or two videos with his UNFINISHED coils diagram, but trying to find a way how to solve some issues...so it is NOT a Final Update on his windings circuit...




IMHO, the MAIN COMPONENT in Pierre setup is his Switching Static Rotor, then the Transformer use.


I would say that his Inner Secondary design, was not very efficient...since it was only one coil, with a huge piece of steel, but this design does not allows for greater collection of Induced EMF of the whole 360º Rotary Fields...However, Pierre stills loops the system.




Anyways...I again, thank you for all your efforts in trying to replicate his design, and could say your setup is much better built than the original.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 03:48:43 PM

Here I will point out some errors in the replications due to what I previously mentioned...




 One example of wrong interpretations when Replicating something...In my opinion, due to not good guidance.


Member Jeg, John G in You Tube did an AWESOME Replication of Pierre Cotnoir!!...I mean, he even have the old type Rotary Transformer...superb build!!


However, whenever seeing his Coil Windings Diagram, and the actual built result...it is simply not right.


In my opinion, the way he wound his core, will not, ever, direct any induction at the center, inner secondary.


All the Induction Force will keep spreading through his steel core...while secondary won't even notice.


On video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6xv7qhcdTM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6xv7qhcdTM)   go to 0:28, I took a screenshot loaded here, versus Pierre's Coils.




Magnetic Fields are purely DIRECTIONAL, with the precision of a LASER Ray!!!...And so, Coils generating Magnetic Fields should follow a Related Spatial Positioning to where we want to send/direct fields...in this case, we need to send all switching fields to INNER CENTER of Core, where the "Collector" or Secondary is located.




Correct me if I am wrong...






Regards






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 03:57:06 PM
I did not post everything that I tried but certainly a transformer was used for one trial providing halfwave rectified DC to the switches, to provide an amplitude changing stator flux. I had my system synchronised to the line zero cross point to start my switching sequence. 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 04:05:35 PM
I did not post everything that I tried but certainly a transformer was used for one trial providing halfwave rectified DC to the switches, to provide an amplitude changing stator flux. I had my system synchronised to the line zero cross point to start my switching sequence.


Great that you use a Transformer L192...may I ask you to show me how you connected your coils to be switched?


If you do not mind, I am just trying to help you diagnose your setup, basically from where my expertise is...Magnetic Fields.




Thanks




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 04:07:54 PM
@ufopolitics


No frustration really, as I have spent many hundreds of hours previously, replicating patents for various devices, unsuccessfully.


I believe the DZ was a hoax, as when his original burnt out, why would he not just replicate what he knew to be working, instead of starting a whole new design (unsuccessful). The replication attempt was not wasted as it illustrated the problems  encountered with the concept generally.


Regards


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 04:59:49 PM
@ufopolitics


No frustration really, as I have spent many hundreds of hours previously, replicating patents for various devices, unsuccessfully.


I believe the DZ was a hoax, as when his original burnt out, why would he not just replicate what he knew to be working, instead of starting a whole new design (unsuccessful). The replication attempt was not wasted as it illustrated the problems  encountered with the concept generally.


Regards


L192


@L192


I am sorry you feel that way...but I have to disagree that it was a hoax.


Pierre was a Newbie on Magnetic Fields, (He admitted that on a post in that Thread,...he said that about one or two years before, he did not know anything related to Magnetism, He just decided to try the "Rotating Fields" experience, based on whoever knows what influenced him...and it just happened he hit the "sweet spot"...but, I bet He did not know exactly how he did it.


Then He started to think big...so "protecting himself" , while keeping "his secrets"...and all it lead was to have a crashed development.


Obviously his decision to start everything new from scratch, and not just repair his working device, is the typical behavior of an unexperienced researcher and builder...on these fields.


So,  as you said...it did not worked out the second try, was due to the fact, he did not know exactly how his deviced was successfull...He may have assumed...but was wrong.


Either that, or He simply applied for a patent on his invention and may have even sell it to some big money corporation by now...


I do not think it has developed as a typical Scam or Hoax does, basically first trying to get high hits on YouTube...then asking for Investors...I mean, He proves he looped his device...then later on took all videos from YT?!


I have been working on these type of setup before Pierre had his idea...and further development of the DZ Generator.


Originally, I started first working on the Figuera development, I invested many hours on it...unsuccessfully...then I wanted to test this same principle with a different approach by using real Generators and Motors configurations in the windings...since Figuera is just about moving the Fields back and forth...




And let me say that even by Figuera movements, I observed a lot of "phenomena" not supposed to be there...as a considerable increase of amperage on output...above Input.


With Pierre Thread and videos, it triggered this ideas again, and now, I honestly think I know what I was doing wrong...




Anyways, I will be making some simple experiments during this week...if I am successful this time...then I will open a Moderated Thread for it (Thanks Stephan and Ramset!!) , where you are welcome to give it another try...if you wish.


Either way I will open a Thread, whether not successful, to just completely not insist any more on it...or to start bigger developments further on, if I get the results I want.






Thanks and Best Regards






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 30, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
Now you like the Pierre device?  You just laughed at it.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 06:57:47 PM
Now you like the Pierre device?  You just laughed at it.


I never laughed at Pierre's DZ Generator!!


I never considered it as a Hoax...


I just laughed with you about his "secret"...


That's all r2d2, sorry, meant r2fpl... ;D




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on March 30, 2022, 07:19:26 PM
I don't understand your jokes. Maybe because I use google translator.  :o

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 07:51:49 PM
Sorry site does not allow standard attachments at the moment.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 07:58:56 PM
The 36 slot stator started with the attached 6 pole 6 slot pitch scheme.
Many other combinations were experimented with.






L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 08:45:13 PM
@L192,


Ok, thanks...let me ask you, the red coil top right has other red Coils below, is that the way you wound each coil, by stepping forward (to the bottom of screen) or jumping one slot at a time?
And if you could also provide Coils interconnections plus all terminals (36 right?) for switching...


Thks




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 30, 2022, 09:58:28 PM
Pierre wired it moving over one slot at a time, not stepping over the blue coil and continuing there.


I understand what you are getting at Ufo; you would want to see it wired like a general 3 phase stator, but Pierre didn't do it that way. Neither did the replicators. And the outer iron is the "rotor' in this case, not the stator. Center iron is the stator (where you pick off the output). The stator has only two poles (two ends that interact with the field).


Anyway, the reason there is no flux in the center iron is because the way this is biased with 6 poles is such that it creates a magnetic field from each N-S pole pair into the center iron, but all three poles are 120deg out of phase, so in the center iron, it adds up to ZERO. Magnetic fields are not just magnitudes that add up; they also have a phase and order to get constructive interference, the phase would need to be the same for all 3 pole pairs which it is not in Pierre's case.



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 10:17:57 PM
Pierre wired it moving over one slot at a time, not stepping over the blue coil and continuing there.
...


I understand what you are getting at Ufo; you would want to see it wired like a general 3 phase stator, but Pierre didn't do it that way. Neither did the replicators. And the outer iron is the "rotor' in this case, not the stator. Center iron is the stator (where you pick off the output). The stator has only two poles (two ends that interact with the field).


Hey PmgR...are you trying to read my mind, or guess here, assume my thoughts now?...hahahahaha
Man, of course, I know very well in Pierre's design, the Outer Core are the Rotating Fields as the Single Inner Coil is the Stator, or Secondary where output is taken from...Duh!
(I just do not want to take your comment above seriously... so I rather laughed).

Anyway, the reason there is no flux in the center iron is because the way this is biased with 6 poles is such that it creates a magnetic field from each N-S pole pair into the center iron, but all three poles are 120deg out of phase, so in the center iron, it adds up to ZERO. Magnetic fields are not just magnitudes that add up; they also have a phase and order to get constructive interference, the phase would need to be the same for all 3 pole pairs which it is not in Pierre's case.


Magnetic Fields DO ADD UP as simply as 2+2=4, depending on how they are set spatially.


So, I see you've got "all the answers" as why it does not work?!!


Did You Replicated this setup from Pierre, PmgR?


Please, let me finish with L192 (without interruptions)...as all I am trying to do here, is to help him on his excelent replication.


I will appreciate it.




Thanks




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on March 30, 2022, 10:18:13 PM
Excuse me for butting in but I always thought he wired it to be 2 poles (NS) 180 degrees apart and stepped the connections to rotate the 2 pole field.

Cadman
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 10:26:21 PM
Excuse me for butting in but I always thought he wired it to be 2 poles (NS) 180 degrees apart and stepped the connections to rotate the 2 pole field.

Cadman


Hey Cadman,


Many years back, I also thought like you wrote above...as I test it and it did not work as expected...I stepped Two Isolated Coils apart at 180 degrees at a time (switching)...and overlapped with next pair...I did get output, it does induce...but not the way that we all are looking for.


Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 10:49:52 PM
In the initial build all the coils are wired in series, with 6 coils forming a pole at a 6 slot winding pitch, as per Pierres diagram of this.


This was the original switch sequence I used.




digitalWrite(1,HIGH), digitalWrite(13,HIGH), digitalWrite(25,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(2,HIGH), digitalWrite(14,HIGH), digitalWrite(26,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(1,LOW),  digitalWrite(13,LOW),  digitalWrite(25,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(3,HIGH), digitalWrite(15,HIGH), digitalWrite(27,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(2,LOW),  digitalWrite(14,LOW),  digitalWrite(26,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(4,HIGH), digitalWrite(16,HIGH), digitalWrite(28,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(3,LOW),  digitalWrite(15,LOW),  digitalWrite(27,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(5,HIGH), digitalWrite(17,HIGH), digitalWrite(29,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(4,LOW),  digitalWrite(16,LOW),  digitalWrite(28,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(6,HIGH), digitalWrite(18,HIGH), digitalWrite(30,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(5,LOW),  digitalWrite(17,LOW),  digitalWrite(29,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(7,HIGH), digitalWrite(19,HIGH), digitalWrite(31,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(6,LOW),  digitalWrite(18,LOW),  digitalWrite(30,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(8,HIGH), digitalWrite(20,HIGH), digitalWrite(32,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(7,LOW),  digitalWrite(19,LOW),  digitalWrite(31,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(9,HIGH), digitalWrite(21,HIGH), digitalWrite(33,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(8,LOW),  digitalWrite(20,LOW),  digitalWrite(32,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(10,HIGH), digitalWrite(22,HIGH), digitalWrite(34,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(9,LOW),  digitalWrite(21,LOW),  digitalWrite(33,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(11,HIGH), digitalWrite(23,HIGH), digitalWrite(35,HIGH);   // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(10,LOW),  digitalWrite(22,LOW),  digitalWrite(34,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(12,HIGH), digitalWrite(24,HIGH), digitalWrite(36,HIGH); // turn the LED on (HIGH is the voltage level)
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(11,LOW),  digitalWrite(23,LOW),  digitalWrite(35,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second
  digitalWrite(12,LOW),  digitalWrite(24,LOW),  digitalWrite(36,LOW);     // turn the LED off by making the voltage LOW
  delay(x);              // wait for a second

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 10:58:23 PM
I would like to provide more but I dont seem to reliably post messages with attachments
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 10:58:56 PM
...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 11:01:27 PM
Wired like this
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 30, 2022, 11:26:28 PM
Ok, thanks L192,


I finally understood how Pierre wired his setup...


I see a lot of problems in that design...from the winding of the coils (stepping down by one slot), to the way he is switching coils.


Now I realize why his setup caught on fire.


He has too many relays per group of 6 or 4 coils, as I understand now, what he meant by "isolating" the coils, or the magnetic fields...


Poor relays, they were getting super high reverse currents at all times...very hot inside contacts!!...maybe not reflected high temp. on their outer casing...




I finally understand what has happened here...




I will go in detail tomorrow, as I will have to make some graphics for better understanding.




And I rather open a dedicated thread just to go over this setup in detail, not to keep over populating this Thread here...






Regards








Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 30, 2022, 11:36:55 PM
This was the last iteration using a series parallel scheme to increase coil current.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 31, 2022, 02:57:32 AM
Read from this point  https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/1350/ (https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/1350/)


Reply #1376 on: December 20, 2020, 06:30:22 AM » Quote (https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/1365/post/quote/554064/last_msg/564891/)
 'open DZ2 ' compared 'enclosed micro wave owen chamber with rotating disc'


and EMdrive https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=emdrive (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=emdrive)

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a35991457/emdrive-thruster-fails-tests/ (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a35991457/emdrive-thruster-fails-tests/)

The EmDrive, copyrighted by its parent company SPR Ltd (http://www.emdrive.com/), theoretically works by trapping microwaves in a shaped chamber where their bouncing produces thrust. The chamber is closed, meaning from the outside, it will appear to simply move without any fuel input or any thrust output.




Sincerely
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on March 31, 2022, 03:58:18 AM
Hey PmgR...are you trying to read my mind, or guess here, assume my thoughts now?...hahahahaha


Yes, I have a bit of that supernormal capability, mind reading

Man, of course, I know very well in Pierre's design, the Outer Core are the Rotating Fields as the Single Inner Coil is the Stator, or Secondary where output is taken from...Duh!
(I just do not want to take your comment above seriously... so I rather laughed).


Yeah, that was for anyone who would mistake the center piece as the rotor, since it is n the rotor place and that was what it was called in Pierre's thread. So no, that didn't apply to you 8)


Magnetic Fields DO ADD UP as simply as 2+2=4, depending on how they are set spatially.


So, I see you've got "all the answers" as why it does not work?!!


Did You Replicated this setup from Pierre, PmgR?


I am not saying I have all the answers, but I did simulate that rotor/stator configuration in FEMM and played around with all kinds of configurations to see where the flux would go. Even calculated flux couplings to the stator for different rotor positions. Anyway, what came out of that is that the total field in the stator is the sum of the field of all poles, but that is also equivalent to the field of one pole pair + that same field of that pole pair shifted by 120deg + that same field of that pole pair shifted by 240deg (spatial 3 phase geometry), so in total it sums to zero. Hence barely any flux with this 6 pole configuration in the stator. Similar to how 3 electric phases cancel out when added up.

All the replications found the same thing as my simulation results (no flux in the center iron) and that begs the question: what did pierre do different so he got a large flux coupled through the stator; he basically got 120-140V AC out of that stator while all the replicators only got maybe up to 10V out on their initial tries.

PmgR
Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 31, 2022, 04:34:12 PM

After reading the patent in some depth, this is a summary of the action of the device.

The rotating outer N-S DC poles develop a small three phase output in the output stator. The steel in the outer rotor (patent reference) is close to saturation. The inner rotor coils are wired as a three phase 4 pole motor and are driven by this small output from the output stator coils.


This will develop a travelling MMF wave back into the output stator (see attached animation) and its this MMF that really pushes the output voltage up in the output stator coils.
The variable amplitude flux shown on the patent drawings for the inner rotor coils, is the flux due to the MMF travelling wave.


Due to the file size limitations on this site, here is the link if you wish to run the GIF  http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/sinvec.html (http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/sinvec.html)
 


The synchronism between the outer stator pole phases and the inner pole phases is important so they totally reenforce, hence the design has rotational alignment requirements in the initial setting up of the device.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 31, 2022, 04:48:41 PM
It now makes me wonder if there is some merit in the attached device which appears to cut out  the middle man so to speak, by driving a stator with a three phase current and via a set of additional windings allows an output of 3 phase current, at first sight a rotary transformer however, the inventor is insistant that the traveling MMF wave provides additional induction/output on top of the flux linked output.


L192   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on March 31, 2022, 06:45:29 PM
Here is the section of the patent that refers.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hartiberlin on March 31, 2022, 10:19:20 PM
here is the link to the patent on Google patents...
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040007932A1/en

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on March 31, 2022, 11:57:27 PM
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=overunity.com+hyun+labs (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=overunity.com+hyun+labs)  8)


https://overunity-com.translate.goog/2329/die-technik-der-zukunft-oder-die-zukunft-der-technik/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://overunity-com.translate.goog/2329/die-technik-der-zukunft-oder-die-zukunft-der-technik/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


 Re: "The technology of the future" or "The future of technology" (https://overunity-com.translate.goog/2329/die-technik-der-zukunft-oder-die-zukunft-der-technik/msg31220/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp#msg31220)   « Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007, 02:37:15 PM

Up-to-date:
from the current "Maxmat" brochure (hardware/home improvement store) an
Einhell "machine" offer, in this case as a mini air compressor, AK12/250:
9.95 euros, including the local 21 % VAT, !
What a euro/kg market price?
 
The US engineering company Lynx Motion Technology (Roy Kessinger) speaks of a degressive motor/generator price development to 5 US$/HP!
Can this already be achieved for micro-machines?
so for decentralized power supply the mechanical entry effort can be reduced to 1/10 ("decimated") of the current price level (1000 Euros/KW)!
 
Via hydro/aero/solar power converters to rotary motor/generator systems,
semi-rotative (~Mukherjee) to finally realize the "static dynamo" concept
(Kunel/Asaoka/HYUN Lab)!


Hyun labs : https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040007932A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040007932A1/en)
                  https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070145959A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070145959A1/en)
                 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/015943741/publication/JPH0923637A?q=pn%3DJPH0923637A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/015943741/publication/JPH0923637A?q=pn%3DJPH0923637A)
                 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/026496590/publication/JPH09191636A?q=pn%3DJPH09191636A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/026496590/publication/JPH09191636A?q=pn%3DJPH09191636A)

https://www.volksbot.de/ (https://www.volksbot.de/)



https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APq-WBs_02qIAuApNhb9IiFIMpUj-62WTQ:1648763812300&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=overunity.com+hyun+labs&client=firefox-b-d&fir=GpJhA7OqjTFECM%252CAjNcjBT8zTSGdM%252C_%253BbcsS8-eOYyv6nM%252CVk9zko51A4OpKM%252C_%253B234m0nmyu6c-uM%252Cwn3R0lxzaJEmTM%252C_%253Bu1aPdKXnxKRUYM%252CYBvmpoq160zmRM%252C_%253Bgjps8DU2DyXV2M%252Cf7IFjfTKv3QwgM%252C_%253Bs82qFn3MCulv_M%252CpHH6A_q7JOmBIM%252C_%253BOFQyn4-1Jt6ioM%252CYBvmpoq160zmRM%252C_%253B13EzekJmBwCgbM%252CAvhYsCpitEjFYM%252C_%253B73oDyG9ikk4QnM%252CHUFnlATC6gmVHM%252C_%253BsK5nAjeLCZnovM%252C-AgwUnuVM42BQM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQtp6rFDJRCp0WGHc0qHBVNXkL3bg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikz-bqq_H2AhUyz4UKHRqbCHsQjJkEegQIAxAC&biw=1366&bih=546&dpr=1 (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APq-WBs_02qIAuApNhb9IiFIMpUj-62WTQ:1648763812300&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=overunity.com+hyun+labs&client=firefox-b-d&fir=GpJhA7OqjTFECM%252CAjNcjBT8zTSGdM%252C_%253BbcsS8-eOYyv6nM%252CVk9zko51A4OpKM%252C_%253B234m0nmyu6c-uM%252Cwn3R0lxzaJEmTM%252C_%253Bu1aPdKXnxKRUYM%252CYBvmpoq160zmRM%252C_%253Bgjps8DU2DyXV2M%252Cf7IFjfTKv3QwgM%252C_%253Bs82qFn3MCulv_M%252CpHH6A_q7JOmBIM%252C_%253BOFQyn4-1Jt6ioM%252CYBvmpoq160zmRM%252C_%253B13EzekJmBwCgbM%252CAvhYsCpitEjFYM%252C_%253B73oDyG9ikk4QnM%252CHUFnlATC6gmVHM%252C_%253BsK5nAjeLCZnovM%252C-AgwUnuVM42BQM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQtp6rFDJRCp0WGHc0qHBVNXkL3bg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikz-bqq_H2AhUyz4UKHRqbCHsQjJkEegQIAxAC&biw=1366&bih=546&dpr=1)

Die übrigen Suchergebnisse enthalten vielleicht nicht das, wonach du suchst. Trotzdem weitere Suchergebnisse anzeigen


wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: for cheap production related applications :

       https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=wolfgang+hagedorn&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=wolfgang+hagedorn&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

especially : 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=wolfgang+hagedorn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=wolfgang+hagedorn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
and

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=andreas+sumera&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=andreas+sumera&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

https://paxscientific.com/ (https://paxscientific.com/)
https://biomimicry.net/ (https://biomimicry.net/)
RECHENBERG INGO PROF DR ING  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Rechenberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Rechenberg)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1#)

[0012]
The invention is based on the knowledge that there is an analogy between electrical engineering and flow technology. [0013]
This consists in the fact that an electromagnetic field around an arbitrarily bent wire-shaped conductor and a flow field around an arbitrarily shaped vortex thread are described by the same law, the Biot-Savartsche law.

The quantities "increase in magnetic field strength" and "increase in speed" therefore correspond to one another.

 Since magnetic field strength can be concentrated by winding a current-carrying conductor into a coil, you can also achieve an increase in speed in fluid mechanics by winding a vortex thread into a coil.


If one arranges several vortices rotating in the same direction in such a way that their axes lie on a circle, they will rotate around the center of the circle as a result of mutual induction.


The induction increases with the number of vortices.

The winding speed increases and the whirl threads approach the shape of tightly packed ring vortices.
 The velocity field that these ring vortices induce in their interior forms the desired concentration effect.



We,gyulasun and I ,found this listed formula as described " Biot-Savart law"-application in an old russian EE book

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780601&CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780601&CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1#)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 01, 2022, 12:54:50 AM

Lanca
Please !!
No more
Free energy potpourri patent tsunamis…
thousands of varieties and flavors !


Patents a plenty ( need a shovel to get through all this FE tonnage you posted in this thread….
No meat all potatoes!!
And still we burn our tiny atmosphere to ….etc etc





Please stop !!

Edit for comment below

Thank you !!
Lanca the offer stands ,
If you have …(amongst all this info you post !)


Just one true anomaly,
 which you know works as advertised…
to share Open source! ??


 We can help this go out to the world ( have crystal clear paragraph written
by professor to peer standards !!


Just one will do !!
















Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on April 01, 2022, 01:09:07 AM
Lanca
Please !!
No more
Free energy potpourri patent tsunamis…
thousands of varieties and flavors !


Patents a plenty ( need a shovel to get through all this FE tonnage you posted in this thread….
No meat all potatoes!!
And still we burn our tiny atmosphere to ….etc etc





Please stop !!
:o
The en-/de-coding base  from em-based free energy devices : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot-Savart-Gesetz (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot-Savart-Gesetz)
With pleasure now : stopped the information management !  ::) ;) By experts,ever their bests ram-and rom- sets applying, demand !
Have a good day

OCWL :)
p.s.: nice the life from "elder forums-mens" ,probably the symptomatic phaenomen from Menopause(female) and /or   Andropause(male)
        https://dualdiagnosis-org.translate.goog/de/ratgeber/wechseljahre-mann/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://dualdiagnosis-org.translate.goog/de/ratgeber/wechseljahre-mann/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

       Wechseljahre, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsel_(Wertpapier) ,  Leben auf zuviel US$/EURO Kreditpump ,Typ "Schmarotzer"  ;D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 01, 2022, 02:46:34 PM

I would suggest that this is examined carefully.

https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on April 01, 2022, 04:03:13 PM
The essence of  Holcomb's invention is that the input energy  spent on creating a magnetic field.
And we get the rotation of this field for free. Rotation does not consume energy.
I understand correctly ? :)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on April 01, 2022, 04:06:51 PM
The essence of  Holcomb's invention is that the input energy  spent on creating a magnetic field.
And we get the rotation of this field for free. Rotation does not consume energy.
I understand correctly ? :)

The rotation of a regular world / physical object does not consume energy either ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 01, 2022, 05:24:25 PM
This attached paragraph is key..


If the rotor (outer coils) impedance is reduced, then the rotating DC poles with a flux level close to saturation, can be achieved with less voltage for a given current, hence less input power is required, or looking at it another way, more three phase stator output power can be achieved for the same input.


L192
 



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: r2fpl on April 01, 2022, 05:39:04 PM
I would suggest that this is examined carefully.

https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services
There is a lot of confidence that Holcomb is a scam. Looking for sponsors.

Sorry, but the patent doesn't prove it works.
Well !
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on April 01, 2022, 05:56:43 PM
I would suggest that this is examined carefully.

https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services (https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services)


What I got out of skimming that is first - Holcomb is one very smart cookie - a PhD in Pharmacology among other degrees and MD's is probably one of the most difficult to get with all the complex chemistry involved in getting that degree.


Secondly it appears he was developing electronic healing devices.  Big Pharma hates anything that can heal electronically as it will greatly reduce their profit from all their pill pushing.  Not sure if this is related to this case but Big Pharma will always go after anyone making or selling such devices.

Third it appears that he won the case - quote "JUDGMENT is hereby granted to the Plaintiff Holcomb Healthcare Services, LLC" although it appears he didn't get all he was seeking in terms of attorney fees being covered and some other points.   

Bottom line is I don't think this makes him out to be a scammer if that is what was intended by pointing out this link.


 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 01, 2022, 06:18:05 PM
Without independent testing, for example MIT, how could anybody be sure about this device?


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 01, 2022, 06:21:24 PM
The essence of  Holcomb's invention is that the input energy  spent on creating a magnetic field.
And we get the rotation of this field for free. Rotation does not consume energy.
I understand correctly ? :)




@Kolbacict


Nope, you do not understand it correctly...you have it backwards... :)


Rotation of just the magnetic fields...without moving steel cores or copper windings...just the virtual fields which could go through steel and copper like a knife through wind...
Rotation of this field is very inexpensive...cheap, and so, no need to apply any humongous super powers to turn the Generator Static Rotor...like we have to do to turn the rotor of a typical generator with a max load on...

And maybe some ppl won't believe something like this can "ever" happen...'cause is too "fictional" for them...


Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on April 01, 2022, 06:58:28 PM
The rotation of a regular world / physical object does not consume energy either ?
I don't know.
If you mean rotation of earth ?
In this case i don't know as well.

Quote
Rotation of just the magnetic fields...without moving steel cores or copper windings...just the virtual fields which could go through steel and copper like a knife through wind...
The fact that there are no mechanically rotating parts in the device is what I understand.

Quote
Lanca
Please !!
No more
Free energy potpourri patent tsunamis…
thousands of varieties and flavors !
:D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 01, 2022, 07:02:02 PM

What I got out of skimming that is first - Holcomb is one very smart cookie - a PhD in Pharmacology among other degrees and MD's is probably one of the most difficult to get with all the complex chemistry involved in getting that degree.


Secondly it appears he was developing electronic healing devices.  Big Pharma hates anything that can heal electronically as it will greatly reduce their profit from all their pill pushing.  Not sure if this is related to this case but Big Pharma will always go after anyone making or selling such devices.

Third it appears that he won the case - quote "JUDGMENT is hereby granted to the Plaintiff Holcomb Healthcare Services, LLC" although it appears he didn't get all he was seeking in terms of attorney fees being covered and some other points.   

Bottom line is I don't think this makes him out to be a scammer if that is what was intended by pointing out this link.


 


HHCS brought the case against Dr Robert Holcomb and won their case. Not the other way around!




https://www.nashvillepost.com/home/legal-dispute-over-holcomb-intellectual-property-expands/article_2afcce0f-8ac1-5240-b7fb-afd4444ce1e4.html

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on April 01, 2022, 07:27:06 PM
SO IN 2022 WE HAVE MOTOR WITH EFFICIENCY OF 98.8 %. NOW
THIS IS  A MOTOR WITH MOVING PARTS. SO THE MOST EFFICIENT GENERATOR.
WOULD BE NEARLY THE SAME. SO HOW COME SOME PEOPLE FIND IT IT SO DIFFICULT TO
ACCEPT THIS GREAT SOLID STATE NO MOVING PART GENERATOR. QUESTION TO ASK IS WHAT
HAPPEN TO THE BRISBANE  AUSTRALIA FREE ENERGY GENERATOR. VAMOOSH. SO WILL BE THIS
ONE SOON.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 01, 2022, 07:50:06 PM
I believe they were discredited a long time ago.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on April 01, 2022, 08:09:08 PM
I AM WILLING TO GIVE 50 AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS TO UFO IF HE WANTS TO GET
TAKE THE GREAT CHALLENGE OF REPLICATING THIS PROJECT. BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS
HE HAVE PROVEN WORTHY OF ENDEAVORING TO PERSEVERE ONTO THIS GREAT CHALLENGE
OF ACHIEVING THIS ULTIMATE HOLY GRAIL OF FREE ENERGY. AND SO SHOULD ALL WHO CAN AFFORD
  TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS GREAT VENTURE.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 01, 2022, 08:51:46 PM

There certainly is enough detail in the patent to allow a replication.

I don't think any standard motor or generator stators could be used though.
 
I think they would have to be laser cut, which along with the cost of sheet silicon steel, is an expensive undertaking.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 01, 2022, 09:51:30 PM
I AM WILLING TO GIVE 50 AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS TO UFO IF HE WANTS TO GET
TAKE THE GREAT CHALLENGE OF REPLICATING THIS PROJECT. BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS
HE HAVE PROVEN WORTHY OF ENDEAVORING TO PERSEVERE ONTO THIS GREAT CHALLENGE
OF ACHIEVING THIS ULTIMATE HOLY GRAIL OF FREE ENERGY. AND SO SHOULD ALL WHO CAN AFFORD
  TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS GREAT VENTURE.


I will just take some vacations to the Seychelles Islands...LOL




Regards, just kidding.




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 01, 2022, 10:15:07 PM
There certainly is enough detail in the patent to allow a replication.

I don't think any standard motor or generator stators could be used though.
 
I think they would have to be laser cut, which along with the cost of sheet silicon steel, is an expensive undertaking.




@Listener 192


I do not need a Patent to build the primary concept, which is what I am putting together.


The concept is so simple...I was making a mistake in the past, which gave me output but no OU...
For the last couple of weeks the words from Tom Bearden (RIP) keeps pounding in my ears : "Do not kill the Dipole!!


Now, I am sure it will be much more positive results than I had in the past 6 years.


Main error...I was Collapsing the Magnetic Field in every single angle turn (Asymmetrical Winding of Isolated Coils apart by 180º)...not good, the Field MUST remain in at least 85-90% ON at all times during operation.


A standard Generator head stator would do, just taking off the rotor and replacing it with a Lap Winded armature at very closed gaps.


I do not agree that it is required any 3 Phase AC like to turn the fields...at all!!


If You want 3 Phase AC output, then get or wind a 3 Phase Stator...but the rotor technology is exactly the same for 1,2,3 phases.


Even with a Universal Motor (OEM, as is) we will see anomalies...not easily understood.


Laser cutting is too expensive...I had cut laminations of 2.0 mm with Waterjet tech (many years back)...then stack them together, apply MIG welding tack points and high temp. epoxy all interiors and top-bottom...ready for winding... :)


I have done that so many times...in  so many different configurations.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 01, 2022, 11:59:57 PM
About my previous post...
It is obvious that the Lap Armature or Stationary Rotor now, to be inserted into a Gen Head Stator, needs to be rated for 120-180 VDC and from 2 to 5 amps min.


For the generation of a strong enough field, we need a Higher Voltage than one Main Out V...(eg: 170V In 120 Out) as only 2 Amps required into rotor for an output from 25 to 20 Amps in just one single phase.


Of course, a 220 Output will put half amperage than 120V...the same exact thing as it works on a typical Rotary Gen...




As every Gen Stator has a secondary set of coils set at 180° just to feed rotor...




Cheers






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 02, 2022, 07:13:28 AM

Below is the explanation of the so-called free energy. Makes no sense. He is simply explaining a B-H curve of electric steel. In a PV array, indeed photons are converted into electrons in a wire.
But this is magnetism. No electrons hopping from the steel into the coils... the magnetic fields moving the electrons in the coils, that is called induction. Nothing special about that.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on April 02, 2022, 08:48:12 AM
And the installation of Clement Figuera is not about the same thing ?
Only in linear version.
Or is there no traveling magnetic field in this ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 02, 2022, 12:02:54 PM
Below is the explanation of the so-called free energy. Makes no sense. He is simply explaining a B-H curve of electric steel. In a PV array, indeed photons are converted into electrons in a wire.
But this is magnetism. No electrons hopping from the steel into the coils... the magnetic fields moving the electrons in the coils, that is called induction. Nothing special about that.


Agreed nothing special there.


There is no full explanation of how inner rotor tuning capacitance reduces the generator rotor coil impedance by 50%, which then allows each inner rotor pole to devlop 4.3 units of power in the output stator for each unit of power fed back from the output stator windings.


Reading the patent again this appears to refer to the inner rotor coils, not the outer rotor coils, which only develop a weak flux into the output stator, as their steel poles have large airgaps in the closing members either side.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 02, 2022, 04:20:18 PM
...

Reading the patent again this appears to refer to the inner rotor coils, not the outer rotor coils, which only develop a weak flux into the output stator, as their steel poles have large airgaps in the closing members either side.

L192

Hello all,
Since we're back to discussing the inner stationary rotor, I want to finish my thoughts which I previously mentioned to Ufo. On my device I have some difficulty with attachments/images. Therefore I'll attempt to post the images here and then add my comments via edits.

Looks like I have the four images attached. Hopefully they are of proper size.
1st is a photo from subject's website of the completed 'rotor' to give some reference to the hardware and size.
2nd is a diagram lifted from a textbook or educational website. Sorry but I don't have a link. Google can find it for you. It shows the way a typical generator field 2-pole rotor is wound. The winding current is fed via slip rings or other method using a DC source. The winding is placed in slots which are in between teeth around the surface. Shown is a cross section perpendicular to the centerline of rotation (shaft). In the slots see circles representing the current. An X in the circle represents current direction into the screen. A dot in the circle represents current direction out the screen.
Note the magnetic field lines, and the direction of the cumulative field or as I call it, flux vector.
3rd attachment is from the patent showing how the rotor is connected.
4th is the center of the above diagram which I snipped out and enlarged. Then I drew in two circles in each slot to represent the two coil sides which lay in the slot. Each tooth on this core (16 total) is shown to have a 5 turn coil. So each of the circles drawn in the slots, represents 5 wires. Next I traced out the currents on the wiring diagram above from the 8 channels + & -, using conventional current direction, + to - outside the source. With this I am able to assign current direction to each coil side (circle) and add the X or dot, out of or into screen.
When the two coil sides in a slot have opposing equal currents, the net mmf contribution is zero. So it is apparent that 14 of the slots contain opposing coil sides therefore make no contribution to the field. Only slots between teeth 16 & 1 and between 8 & 9 have coils sides which aid each other and contribute. Hence the rotor will have effectively two coils of 5 turns each. This means only 12.5% of the copper is utilized at any instant. Actually less if you consider end-turns. About 90% of the copper is along for the ride or worse, needlessly wasting power and heating the machine.
It is for these reasons such cores are typically wound using lap or overlaid coils where the coil span (distance between coil sides) is nearly equal to the pole pitch. Winding such a core as they have done makes absolutely no sense.

bi
Title: Holcomb Energy System Questions ?
Post by: TommeyReed on April 02, 2022, 04:36:40 PM
Hello All,

 This company is making claims that seems to breaks all laws of conservation of energy.

Are there any true verified documents from independent companies?

This is nothing more then a transformer, I think by looking at this simple design they could be using Back EMF.

https://holcombenergysystems.com/ (https://holcombenergysystems.com/)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy System Questions ?
Post by: TommeyReed on April 02, 2022, 04:52:01 PM
This is a simple transformer. ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 02, 2022, 05:25:00 PM
Agree Bistandar. That's how the inner rotor is configured. It imitates a permanent magnet spinning around. The outer rotor is wired the same way and in sync with the inner rotor and reinforces the inner rotor. Per his patent images, the center stator is wired exactly as a 4 pole 3 phase generator stator. So basically no different from a regular 3 phase generator. For those of us that don't know, you can read this link https://electricalacademia.com/synchronous-machines/three-phase-ac-generator-working/ (https://electricalacademia.com/synchronous-machines/three-phase-ac-generator-working/) for a basic explanation of a 2 pole and 4 pole 3 phase generator.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on April 02, 2022, 06:59:40 PM
snip < Winding such a core as they have done makes absolutely no sense.

bi
> snip


Makes no sense unless it happens to work  ;)    If you are basing your statement on their patent info you do know patents often mislead with details that make it impossible for others to copy their work.   Maybe consider this is intentional misdirection...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 02, 2022, 08:02:53 PM

Hello All,



I agree with Bistander, in the fact that the way that rotor is wound has no sense from the wiring side or the magnetic output side. IMHO, it does not output a strong Magnetic Field outwards, but "mini fields"...however, as they are mentioning on Patent, that is their purpose, to start with a very low intensity field...


Now, apart from all "possible technical errors"...let's filter just the "Basic Principle"


And so, I, basically like to see the Big Picture here...and that is Rotating a Magnetic Field through metal cores and windings...the Basic Principle here...and so, the means to achieve it,  could be right or wrong...I still remain with the Basic Principle.


So, I want to bring out here a couple of frame images from an animation scene I created a long time ago...(I had to scrap it from old drives, so glad I found it!!)... but now I consider it is of great value...


If We analyze a typical Lap Wound Armature Magnetic Field, simple, two brush type, two stators, while it is in Rotation...and, yes, this "scenario" applies to ALL Motors, PM DC or Universal Type, no matter if Three (3) poles all the way to 36 Poles.


We realize the Rotor Magnetic Field is completely Static*...while the rotor steel frame and copper windings are rotating...as the Two (Positive-Negative) Brushes imaginary line defines the North from the South Poles of the Field...


This Field Static Positioning (Independently of multiple series coils being reversing electrical and magnetic polarization at millisecond rates), this Static Field causes the steel rotor (that could be of massive weight) to spin...


completely static* Yes, I know it is not perfectly static, as there are acceleration and deceleration forces involved, which makes it oscillate in the borders, as a tendency to diverge the field in the sense of rotation in some kind of distortion.


And, please, correct me if I am wrong, anytime.


Point here is simple...we have a Steel Rotor with windings spinning THROUGH an invisible field, which remains STATIC.

Now, let's do the "REVERSE ENGINEERING" of above fact.

Why, can we just hold the Rotor-Coils assembly in place, keeping same air gap...and spin the same, intensity Field?

We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :(






Cheers






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 02, 2022, 08:27:10 PM
@Bistander,


Don't this type of winding on Holcomb's Design, reminds you of the typical Outrunner BLDC Inner Static Armature winding?...where coils are basically wound on each pole?


And the BLDC (Hub Motor Type, Outrunner) uses Three Phase DC (Square Wave), but also set at 120º apart....some work with a sensor and others use one of the phase as the guidance for positioning...




See attached image...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 02, 2022, 08:30:57 PM
Hello All,

...
Now, let's do the "REVERSE ENGINEERING" of above fact.

Why, can we just hold the Rotor-Coils assembly in place, keeping same air gap...and spin the same, intensity Field?

We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :(
...
Ufopolitics

Yes Ufo,
We have it. With the polyphase AC stator. Stationary steel and copper with a rotating constant magnitude magnetic field. That field can be 2-pole, 4-pole, 6 ...., just like you can develope with the wound (or PM) rotating rotor. A charge in the air gap won't know the difference.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 02, 2022, 08:40:33 PM
@Bistander,


Don't this type of winding on Holcomb's Design, reminds you of the typical Outrunner BLDC Inner Static Armature winding?...where coils are basically wound in each pole?


And the BLDC (Hub Motor Type, Outrunner) uses Three Phase DC (Square Wave), but also set at 120º apart....some work with a sensor and others use one of the phase as the guidance for positioning...




See attached image...




Cheers




Ufopolitics

Sorta. But what you show is an armature, not a field winding. The field on that motor is PM, and a lot more than 2 or 4 poles. What you see in the photo are teeth and slots, not poles. The magnets determine the number of poles. If you were to wire those coils like they did for a 2-pole application, you'd have the same issue.... only 2 effective coils and a lot of wasted copper.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 02, 2022, 08:44:04 PM
Yes Ufo,
We have it. With the polyphase AC stator. Stationary steel and copper with a rotating constant magnitude magnetic field. That field can be 2-pole, 4-pole, 6 ...., just like you can develope with the wound (or PM) rotating rotor. A charge in the air gap won't know the difference.
bi


So, what you are saying is basically what Cotnoir did...in his own way of winding and switching...He used 6 Poles in his outer static rotor.


Now, in the other scenario, (lap winding) when we apply power to coils in series, with a "T" derivation to commutator element, and apply power at just two or four points of armature coils...current will remain the same within the whole series of coils, typically lower, no matter if we apply more power (V) to Armature...that is what happens in any lap wound motor...as I will dare to say that it even lowers amps, as we increase V...correct?




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 02, 2022, 09:00:53 PM
Sorta. But what you show is an armature, not a field winding. The field on that motor is PM, and a lot more than 2 or 4 poles. What you see in the photo are teeth and slots, not poles. The magnets determine the number of poles. If you were to wire those coils like they did for a 2-pole application, you'd have the same issue.... only 2 effective coils and a lot of wasted copper.
bi


Yeah, sorry, my bad, confused poles, meant teeth... :(


But point here is that a number of coils wound on each teeth, next to each others, determine a Pole, and that arrangement could be modified through their electronic switching PLC (programmed) and executed by each channel in many different "fashions".


I do not know if you've noticed, but on Holcomb's Patent Diagrams, he shows different configurations of magnetic poles (N-S) arrangements...


See image 23 of a different setup below. note the polarities change versus the FIG22 (which you upload it before)....yes, I know it has a different inner rotor coils added...but referring to same rotor as seen on Image 22 Poles config.




Cheers






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 02, 2022, 10:16:58 PM

So, what you are saying is basically what Cotnoir did...in his own way of winding and switching...He used 6 Poles in his outer static rotor.


Now, in the other scenario, (lap winding) when we apply power to coils in series, with a "T" derivation to commutator element, and apply power at just two or four points of armature coils...current will remain the same within the whole series of coils, typically lower, no matter if we apply more power (V) to Armature...that is what happens in any lap wound motor...as I will dare to say that it even lowers amps, as we increase V...correct?




Regards




Ufopolitics

Sorry Ufo,
I don't know what the other fellow did. And you lost me. What I am talking about it the common universally available polyphase machine like the NEMA standard 3-phase induction motors or standard synchronous generators of which millions are working in industry today.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 03, 2022, 12:27:02 AM

Yeah, sorry, my bad, confused poles, meant teeth... :(


But point here is that a number of coils wound on each teeth, next to each others, determine a Pole, and that arrangement could be modified through their electronic switching PLC (programmed) and executed by each channel in many different "fashions".
...
Ufopolitics

Ufo,
It depends. Here, they appear to wind a core which appears to be from a DC armature to use as a field. Used as an armature, the field would determine the number of poles. Typically the coil span on the armature is made to be very close to the pole pitch, so one coil side is under a N while the other coil side is under a S. The point here is that it is a waste of copper to have conductors (coil sides) in the same slot carrying current in opposite directions. Current one way simply cancels opposing current. The net current in the slot contributes to the work.

And I had not seen Fig. 23. Obviously a 4-pole attempt. Has same issue as the 2-pole Fig.22. This has 2 coils on each tooth, in parallel of the same magnetic polarity, seemingly separated by some sort of magnetic bridge to adjacent teeth. Pardon me, but seeing what I have of this guy, I'm not likely to read the patent to further understand his logic, or lack thereof.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: TommeyReed on April 03, 2022, 04:14:10 PM
Hi All,

 I have found in the past doing Back EMF this simple diode set up works very good. It also protects mosfets at high speed switching.

Output should have capacitors to collect return voltage of BEMF.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: marcosbk on April 03, 2022, 04:36:21 PM
Hi Ufopolilitics...
"We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :( "


in my only  post some time ago I was also asking something that looks very close.
anyway, a lot in common with Figuera and Antonio D Angelo patent.
Just rewinded a old rotor as holcomb/D Angelo have...need sometestings

rgds
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 03, 2022, 09:38:23 PM
Hi Ufopolilitics...
"We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :( "


in my only  post some time ago I was also asking something that looks very close.
anyway, a lot in common with Figuera and Antonio D Angelo patent.
Just rewinded a old rotor as holcomb/D Angelo have...need sometestings

rgds


Hello Marcos,


Great!!...good luck!!


I tried Figuera way back, is a different approach, about ramping up and ramping down magnetic fields...by use of resistors or inductors, either way it is just a short linear movement which plays with field intensity...


My new approach would be to keep a steady field (Input power constant), while rotating it 360º continuously inside a Stator Field...I see this approach much more robust and easier (flexible) to adjust field speed and intensity until desired results...then leaving it there...


I read your previous posts, yes, you have tried before...but no one paid attention... :(






Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 05, 2022, 07:28:52 AM
I was reading the DNV. These two pages sum it all up. Really, no kidding. A magnetic material with a high mu generates more electric flux for a certain current, than plexiglas... really... Now you know why we don't use plexiglas in transformers.


The third party who tested this (btw at Holcomb's facility in Florida, not somewhere else) must have had absolutely no experience in magnetism (except probably for his fridge door magnets)...  :o
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on April 05, 2022, 08:28:03 AM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 05, 2022, 08:50:07 AM
Also, I was looking at Holcomb's patent. Starting with the first claim, see below, how can something like this be patented?


This claim applies to most motors, generators, ceiling fan.... also considering that Pierre Cotnoir already did the same/similar thing and put it in the open domain.


I guess these days you can patent anything that already exists. If you invent something and start manufacturing it, yet then someone who buys your product decides to patent it, you are out of luck I guess (this assumes that a "first to file"  versus "first to invent" system is in place).


Correct me if I am wrong here...

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on April 05, 2022, 12:39:46 PM
Maybe this device is just a three-phase transformer?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 05, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
Hello to All,




Why is it that hard to distinguish the huge differences between AC versus DC Magnetic Fields in a Rotation?


AC keeps flashing currents between positive and negative at a rate of 60 or 50 cycles per second, which generates -IN THE SAME SPOT- Flashes of North-South @ 60Hz per Cycle. Hence there are absolutely no magnetic poles going anywhere, but flashing exactly in the same place.
Actually AC Currents keep resulting in zero in every frequency up-down, except it happens over a short period of time (60cycles/sec)


When several coils are positioned in a circular fashion, where they are aligned each others at 90, 120 or 180 degrees, and wound around circular steel cores and fed with AC, we get ALTERNATED N-S poles flashing -in place- at every coil...So, if we put a piece of steel within that circle, it rotates, NOT because there is a magnetic field "rotating" and the rotor is "following it", but because it is flashing constantly N-S Magnetic Poles across the center of steel stator, which generates alternated attract-repulse fields, which bolts down to "pull and push" forces across the circle, and placed 90º, 120º or 180º apart...or for a Three Phase it is a stepping action over time of three sequentially placed coils.


There are absolutely NO ROTATION THROUGH SPACE of the SAME North-South Poles in AC Currents.




A typical COMMUTATED DC Motor (PM or Universal, NOT BLDC) works thanks to a STATIONARY, IN PLACE, AND NOT VARYING Magnetic Field, and what makes it "rotate" are the constant Coils reversing polarities at every step of commutator, while Magnetic Field is STATIC within the whole motor embodiment, including the Stator.


Brushless DC Motors (BLDC) runs thanks to a Three Phase DC SQUARE WAVE, spread at 120º apart (except for PC Fans and other small motors, which work with just one phase DC with Hall Sensors) This 3Phase DC generates a FLASHING STEPPING FIELD, similar to AC, except they have a full positive,  FLAT LINE alternating between Positive and Negative...above and below.


NONE of ALL Motors mentioned above, Not ANY Transformer, have a FULLY ROTATIONAL MAGNETIC FIELD, MUCH LESS, DC MOTORS.



*Developments on Figuera, Cotnoir and Holcomb did or are doing, is Moving THROUGH SPACE, a Constant, not flashing, not changing over time, NEVER COLLAPSING TO ZERO, Magnetic Field...and that, can only be achieved with a constant one Directional Current...called DC.

Exactly as Generators Rotors-Exciter, Inducing Fields do...except they rotate physically the Magnetic Field, by rotating the whole thing who carries it, namely the Steel Core and Coils...



What has taken place with above developments* is a CONSTANT, FULL MOVEMENTS or ROTATIONS of JUST the VIRTUAL Magnetic Field, without involving physical rotation of Steel Cores nor Coils.










Huge difference People...






Regards






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 05, 2022, 05:48:55 PM
Hello to All,




Why is it that hard to distinguish the huge differences between AC versus DC Magnetic Fields in a Rotation?


AC keeps flashing currents between positive and negative at a rate of 60 or 50 cycles per second, which generates -IN THE SAME SPOT- Flashes of North-South @ 60Hz per Cycle. Hence there are absolutely no magnetic poles going anywhere, but flashing exactly in the same place.
Actually AC Currents keep resulting in zero in every frequency up-down, except it happens over a short period of time (60cycles/sec)


When several coils are positioned in a circular fashion, where they are aligned each others at 90, 120 or 180 degrees, and wound around circular steel cores and fed with AC, we get ALTERNATED N-S poles flashing -in place- at every coil...So, if we put a piece of steel within that circle, it rotates, NOT because there is a magnetic field "rotating" and the rotor is "following it", but because it is flashing constantly N-S Magnetic Poles across the center of steel stator, which generates alternated attract-repulse fields, which bolts down to "pull and push" forces across the circle, and placed 90º, 120º or 180º apart...or for a Three Phase it is a stepping action over time of three sequentially placed coils.


There are absolutely NO ROTATION THROUGH SPACE of the SAME North-South Poles in AC Currents.

...
Ufopolitics

Ufo,
You are wrong. The Alternating Currents produce mmf's which vary in amplitude over time in locations around the circular air gap. All these mmf's are a "field" in themselves which is, or gives rise, to the flux field, which is the sum of all the point mmf's at each instant. This "sum" or combination is in fact a non alternating constant magnitude flux which travels with respect to time around the air gap. A stationary charge, or test probe, in the air gap would detect absolutely no difference between the rotating magnetic field produced by the 3-phase stator and that from a rotating wound field or PM rotor.

It is not intuitive, but I've seen the mathematical proof as well as experimental demonstration. I realize that you do not believe this is possible, however it is the truth. Every engineering textbook that I can recall covers this at the beginning of the chapters on AC motors and generators. It helped to have the professor cover it in the lecture/classroom.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 05, 2022, 06:14:53 PM
@Bistander,


You are correct. I have done extensive modeling of EM fields in various areas and it makes no difference by what source a field is excited (DC or AC). I also note that Holcomb mentions that his DC exciting coils can be replaced or supplemented by an AC 3 phase rotor (he actually mentions the use of a 3 phase motor stator in one of the patens to create/supplement the moving field).


The fact that this device is over-unity is because Lenz is being circumvented/manipulated! None of this electron-spin stuff.



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 05, 2022, 06:49:45 PM


... A stationary charge, or test probe, in the air gap would detect absolutely no difference between the rotating magnetic field produced by the 3-phase stator and that from a rotating wound field or PM rotor.

bi



Bistander,


If it makes no difference a 3 phase stator and a Permanent Magnetic Field then why, going through the trouble to insert Diodes in every Rotating Inducing Field in a Generator?...may as well get an AC wound Rotor, without Diodes, and it should do exactly same thing, with AC Inducing Fields...


Could You explain why it is not done with AC?


Also, we could just get a three Phase Stator, feed it with 3 Phase currents, and set in the center a Stationary Secondary Field, wound 3 Phase Coils...but then all we have is a 3 Phase Transformer right?...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 05, 2022, 07:08:32 PM



Bistander,


If it makes no difference a 3 phase stator and a Permanent Magnetic Field then why, going through the trouble to insert Diodes in every Rotating Inducing Field in a Generator?...may as well get an AC wound Rotor, without Diodes, and it should do exactly same thing, with AC Inducing Fields...


Could You explain why it is not done with AC?


Also, we could just get a three Phase Stator, feed it with 3 Phase currents, and set in the center a Stationary Secondary Field, wound 3 Phase Coils...but then all we have is a 3 Phase Transformer right?...




Cheers




Ufopolitics

It is done that way in 3-phase induction motor and generators.

Last question.... Yes. That is what I, and a few others, have been telling you. We've been doing it since Tesla, you just didn't realize it.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 05, 2022, 07:30:50 PM
It is done that way in 3-phase induction motor and generators.

Last question.... Yes. That is what I, and a few others, have been telling you. We've been doing it since Tesla, you just didn't realize it.
bi


Bistander,


There are two basic types of 3 phase generators. (referring to the inducing fields type)


1- Revolving Armature is a 3 Single Phase Coils, overlapped but wound separated  by 120º (Single Phase)...requires slip rings to output 3 phases PLUS  Slip Rings to feed the 3 single phase currents...(used the least)


2- Revolving Field Generator...which is a DC Field, the typical and mostly used...


Info  from link below...


THREE PHASE GENERATOR WORKING (https://electricalacademia.com/synchronous-machines/three-phase-ac-generator-working/)




Cheers




Ufopolitics



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 05, 2022, 08:01:08 PM
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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 05, 2022, 08:49:43 PM
  :)  placeholder  8)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 05, 2022, 11:37:21 PM

Bistander,


There are two basic types of 3 phase generators. (referring to the inducing fields type)


1- Revolving Armature is a 3 Single Phase Coils, overlapped but wound separated  by 120º (Single Phase)...requires slip rings to output 3 phases PLUS  Slip Rings to feed the 3 single phase currents...(used the least)


2- Revolving Field Generator...which is a DC Field, the typical and mostly used...


Info  from link below...


THREE PHASE GENERATOR WORKING (https://electricalacademia.com/synchronous-machines/three-phase-ac-generator-working/)

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Ufo,
Scroll down that link you give and click on the path to this:

"Synchronous Generator Working Principle"

Read there and you will see the author refer to the rotating magnetic field produced by the stator, armature in this case. Quoting him, or her;
"The stator currents produce a rotating magnetic field in the airgap of the generator that rotates at synchronous speed. In essence, the generator has two rotating magnetic fields, one due to the rotation of the rotor field and one due to the MMF of the stator windings."
bi

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on April 06, 2022, 03:44:04 AM
If you read WO 2018/134233 A2 you see that he actually pushes the electrons in the flat solid state stator and get DC out.
The MU metal shield is important to.
Its more like a accelerator think CERN.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 06, 2022, 04:44:37 AM
 :'(   placeholder  :)
(to be explained)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 06, 2022, 02:47:31 PM
Ufo,
Scroll down that link you give and click on the path to this:

"Synchronous Generator Working Principle"

Read there and you will see the author refer to the rotating magnetic field produced by the stator, armature in this case. Quoting him, or her;
"The stator currents produce a rotating magnetic field in the airgap of the generator that rotates at synchronous speed. In essence, the generator has two rotating magnetic fields, one due to the rotation of the rotor field and one due to the MMF of the stator windings."
bi


Hello Bistander,


Yes, I read that, Thanks, but I knew that...it is the Magneto Motive Force (mmf) which is present whenever the Induced Circuit is closed by a load, So currents are flowing...it also takes place in Single Phase Generators, in motors...and all electromagnetic circuits.


However, notice the Inducing fields are DC?...the same old single bulky coil rotating DC Magnetic Field Circuit...



And that mmf generated at Stator when loaded, is just a consequence from main DC Rotating Field, so, of course it has to be in sync!!, if it is just a result, a consequence from the RPM's developed and Induced EMF by Rotor.

Related to the previous 3 Phase #1 Generator that I cited before...note it works (as Inducer) with a 3 Single Phase Lines (Not 3 Phase) wound spatially apart by 120º...so, the Rotor is configured to induce Stator Fields with the 120º "time stamp" sequence in a 360º spin...


On my concept, my testing, it is way more viable, simple and easier to use the typical DC Two N-S Poles Virtual rotation of the Field, than using 3 single phase...I mean, we could get DC power out from a SuperCap, a Battery, a PSU etc,etc...to generate that field...


But anyways, much appreciated your help here.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on April 06, 2022, 04:36:21 PM

Ufo,On the picture you have your permanent magnetic field rotating (permanent magnet for clarity) .
And three coils 120 deg apart.
As a result you will have  induced 3 sinusoidal signals in each coil, phase delayed by 120 deg.


Now.
Reverse this process.
You will have your DC magnetic field rotating.


 :)
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 06, 2022, 05:00:09 PM
Ufo,On the picture you have your permanent magnetic field rotating (permanent magnet for clarity) .
And three coils 120 deg apart.
As a result you will have  induced 3 sinusoidal signals in each coil, phase delayed by 120 deg.


Now.
Reverse this process.
You will have your DC magnetic field rotating.


 :)
Pix


@Pix,


Thanks, I do understand what you and Bistander are explaining, believe me, very clear...


But "reversing this process" brings more complications, as I do not want to involve (for now) any input from main 3 phase ...can you understand my point?
For me it is way easier, to start demonstration with a DC Constant Rotating Field...just one input, plus and minus, and just two poles, North and South, simple.


As for those that want to try using electronics to do their switching, it is also easier, much more easier, to start with simple DC Input, that could be switched easier and cheaper, than trying to make a Three, out of phase, smooth sinusoidal signals...


It is about to "prove a concept"...and to make it as simple as posible...for sake of understanding by all audiences.




Thanks again




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: marcosbk on April 06, 2022, 05:30:47 PM
agree with you UFO,here are drawing that i also posted on energetic forum same time when i posted here...
to me looks like may give something and I don't see what is against  the books...

sadly, for me will take a month till i can test but I will follow your work closely.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 06, 2022, 06:30:40 PM

@Pix,


Thanks, I do understand what you and Bistander are explaining, believe me, very clear...


But "reversing this process" brings more complications, as I do not want to involve (for now) any input from main 3 phase ...can you understand my point?
For me it is way easier, to start demonstration with a DC Constant Rotating Field...just one input, plus and minus, and just two poles, North and South, simple.


As for those that want to try using electronics to do their switching, it is also easier, much more easier, to start with simple DC Input, that could be switched easier and cheaper, than trying to make a Three, out of phase, smooth sinusoidal signals...


It is about to "prove a concept"...and to make it as simple as posible...for sake of understanding by all audiences.




Thanks again




Ufopolitics

Ufo,
I, and I assume Mr. Pix, have no issue with you doing it your way. But please stop stating that it "can't" be done with Alternating Currents.

And with the availability of motor speed controllers, 3-phase is easily, and cheaply, synthesized from DC.

Good luck with your project.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: marcosbk on April 06, 2022, 06:45:05 PM
bi, alternating currents will not work for this thing....well, not sure if cc will do but there is big difference between how they work.
as i remember from school, current into a coil increase from the time is connected till reach a limit. into a capacitor is maximum at beginning then decrease.
on this particular experiment should not be interrupt the supply, so a almost steady current will flow. only rotate brushes without breaking contact.

for those that also follow...
attached some of my  work, old rotor re-winded and collector coils on iron core
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 06, 2022, 06:51:14 PM
Ufo,
I, and I assume Mr. Pix, have no issue with you doing it your way. But stop stating that it "can't" be done with Alternating Currents.

And with the availability of motor speed controllers, 3-phase is easily, and cheaply, synthesized from DC.

Good luck with your project.
bi


Thxs Bistander,


But of course, however, now on your last statement (bold out by me) you are talking about DC Three Phase, as use on BLDC Motors...Now, that is something else, as they do have a flat side and not a curve sine...however, they constantly collapse the Field, and It is a big "No,No" on this setup, if we want it successfully done.


That is my reason to reject AC.


Not that I am saying AC does not generates a rotating field...pls, do not take me wrong.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 06, 2022, 07:35:05 PM
Ufo,
See article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable-frequency_drive

Simply connect DC source to the "DC link", between the rectifier and inverter bridge. I've done it a hundred, or more, times. And the windings on the outputs smooth the current waveforms and the resultant signal (power) is close to that of an AC mains.

These "AC Drives", as they are called, can be found, used, or surplus, fractional kW, in good working condition for like $100. A suitable used motor probably for less.

While it might work, I'd stay away from BLDC drives.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 06, 2022, 07:41:36 PM
bi, alternating currents will not work for this thing....well, not sure if cc will do but there is big difference between how they work.
as i remember from school, current into a coil increase from the time is connected till reach a limit. into a capacitor is maximum at beginning then decrease.
on this particular experiment should not be interrupt the supply, so a almost steady current will flow. only rotate brushes without breaking contact.

for those that also follow...
attached some of my  work, old rotor re-winded and collector coils on iron core

marcosbk,
I am not saying AC will work on any particular experiment.

Just stating the fact that a constant traveling magnetic field can be formed from polyphase AC. It's done all the time.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: DENA on April 06, 2022, 09:07:42 PM
Hi All,

These might be silly questions , but would you pls share your idea or comment

1- in first look , electron's spin might be something very usual, and looks ,same as all other general generators ,but there are new topic such as spintronics, which might be used in their innovation, a phenomena such as SHE ( spin Hall effect ) , as also highlighted in introduction's  clip by  Dr Holcomb ?


2- looking in the patent there are poles which drown by two fields over one pole ( as below shown)  , is this driven by mistake or above guess may be appied for creating such distribution?

3 if Spin accumulations can create such filed over surface of Iron or with special coating on top of it?


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on April 07, 2022, 03:45:00 AM
 
https://m.youtube.com/c/ArkiverUnifiedEnergy/videos
 -   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LfReXe66iLs
     -  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPASLPy3yH0   + Kommentare,Comments

wmbr
L.W.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on April 07, 2022, 08:07:14 AM
There are electric machines called selsyns.
They have a three-phase rotor winding and a three-phase stator winding.
Even I have one, Soviet-made.
Maybe help for your experiments?
As a finished product, with minimal alterations ...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on April 07, 2022, 09:22:21 AM
@kobalcit
The same is AC slip ring motor. Widely used in cranes and electric winches.


Cheers,
pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 12, 2022, 03:09:30 PM
Word on the street …… is this one will change everything!


Hopefully more info will be forthcoming !,(even better would be to
Open source !

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 12, 2022, 05:08:34 PM
Word on the street …… is this one will change everything
...

Please elaborate, explain.
Thanks.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 12, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
At this point There is no explaining !


For clarity,the testing which has been done ?




Integrity of claim is firm !


I would be extremely careful throwing the word scam
At this claim ( not referring to persons here who have
mused about claim


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
To persons not satisfied with above explanation


Do your own rigor and ….
(Or let’s figure this out ….?



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 12, 2022, 09:25:30 PM
...
(Or let’s figure this out ….?

That is my attempt. Which street? What word?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on April 12, 2022, 11:13:07 PM
Maybe it's just me but I recognized the Holcomb layout as a radial version of the Hubbard device which has an axial layout. The inner output section is coarse windings, the mid section coils are switched and the outer windings the input/feedback. Holcomb seems to be using switched input coils which may be the downside of using a radial configuration. However if it works it works and a few extra switches is hardly an issue.

I agree with Chet and this looks like a winner.
Regards
AC
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Jimboot on April 12, 2022, 11:40:53 PM
At this point There is no explaining !


For clarity,the testing which has been done ?




Integrity of claim is firm !


I would be extremely careful throwing the word scam
At this claim ( not referring to persons here who have
mused about claim


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
To persons not satisfied with above explanation


Do your own rigor and ….
(Or let’s figure this out ….?
holcomb revealed in an interview recently that he grew up in the family motor rewinding business. So there is that.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on April 13, 2022, 12:43:50 AM
Why I think HES works as claimed.
This is the simpler one with only two poles north and south.
It's a solid state DC generator and it's ingenious.

From WO2018134233.
“The progression of the North pole flux and South pole flux across armature 59 is further demonstrated in FIG. 18. Pole 58(1) emits North pole flux 58a as discussed above which repels North pole flux 58b which emanates from pole 58(2) which has been excited by a pulse on the lead of leads 61L for the coil of coils 61 for pole 58(2). Flux 58b evolves from pole 58(2), 1.043 milliseconds (times are exemplary) after pole 58(1) is excited. The repulsion of flux 58b by flux 58a sets up a pulsing field which progresses across all of the armature's North poles. Pole 57(1) emits South pole flux 57a as discussed above which repels South pole flux 57b which emanates from excited pole 57(2) and which evolves from pole 57(2) 1.043 milliseconds after pole 57(1) is excited. The repulsion of flux 57b by flux 57a sets up a pulsing field which progresses across all of armature 59's South poles.

He pushes the electrons in the flat solid state stator in one direction and gets DC out,
Read  WO20181344233, especially page 16 - 20 .
The AC one is a bit more complicated, 2 north 2 south and rotated but the poles are still  excited in the same sequenced way as the simpler DC one.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on April 13, 2022, 01:22:09 AM

A little bit more from WO 2018/134233 A2.


"The poles are sequenced in the following exemplary fashion.
North pole 58(1) and South pole 57(1) are simultaneously excited
with DC current; 1.043 milliseconds later pole North pole 58(2) and
South pole 57(2) are excited; 1.043 milliseconds later North pole 58(3)
and South pole 57(3) South are excited; and then 1.043 milliseconds
later, North pole 58(4) and South pole 57(4) are excited.
Then 1.043 milliseconds later, the cycle begins all over again.
Each pole is excited for four milliseconds and then allowed to
collapse for the next period prior to being excited again.
Again, all times are exemplary."

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on April 14, 2022, 02:10:36 AM
A idea for "HES solid state DC generator core" with small ferrite U cores?



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 16, 2022, 06:09:22 PM
Here Cyril Smith (member Smudge ) makes very interesting observation/analysis,
As well others making  interesting contributions !

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98563;topicseen#msg98563 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98563;topicseen#msg98563)

Smudge quote


The geometry of his non-rotor is nothing like that of conventional rotors, and certainly nothing like transformer cores.  Those long radial tapering spokes could introduce some unusual effects.  The field along the spokes will not be uniform because of the taper and note that he only uses conductive material.  Spin polarised conduction electrons will be drawn along the field gradient attracted to the point of maximum field, which is the inner end of the energised spoke.  Thus in his pulsed sequences there is this electron pumping going on that will affect the fields that couple to the stator coils.  I can imagine the surges in this pumping effect being synchronized so as to provide anomalous energy transfer, with that energy coming from the spins of those conduction electrons.  If the conduction electrons arrive at the rotor pole face while the field at the stator pole due to the load current (the Lenz field) is changing, the changing A field that produces the well known BEMF electric field could be of a polarity that tries to slow down the spins of those electrons.  That is a recipe for OU.  Note that the driving force on the conduction electrons is the field gradient along the spokes, and not the usual electric force coming from a changing magnetic field so there is opportunity to arrange the phasing to achieve the desired effect.  Maybe he found this by accident and doesn't know it.


Edit added info.  Note that a deficit of conduction electrons at the rotor pole face is just as effective as a surge, but in this case it is the spins in the lattice ions there that supply the anomalous energy.


Smudge
End quote

Respectfully submitted
Chet K
Edit for bistander’s comment below
Yes ,similar observations by others in link I posted above!

That being said
I love Smudges analysis towards a plausible path forward!

Perhaps a builders topic might be forthcoming (Smudge and Partzman host a moderated builders section here)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 16, 2022, 06:50:44 PM
Hello Chet K,
I like Smudge's previous post.

quote;


Group: Professor
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 1557
I have looked carefully at that latest patent application (it is not a patent) WO 2018/134233.  Like other Holcombe applications it is weird in that it is trying to teach the patent examiner some basic EM history with references to Faraday, Watt, Gramme, Lenz and Tesla.  Perhaps he thinks that will help in getting the patent granted.  He is wrong with regard to Tesla's modification to the Faraday disc, it did not cancel the reverse torque.  In fact he is wrong about many of his claims which come from someone who has only a naive understanding of magnetic phenomena.  He states that his rotor as static hence reverse torque is not an issue, but then later on goes into detail on how his wonderful system cancels reverse torque.  He mentions graphene several times and thinks it has high permeability.  In fact it is highly diamagnetic and has permeability near zero.  His view on fields emanating from pole faces is naive to the extreme.  He talks about field lines running parallel to the surface of the rotor (this is not a moving/ rotating field although his rotor coil sequencing attempts to do that to field lines emanating normal to those surfaces) and that is just nonsense.  He talks about unipole rotors and such things can''t exist (field lines can't just appear from nowhere, there has to be a reverse pole somewhere like along the drive shaft of the rotor that doesn't exist in his machine).  He does show rotors with N and S poles but then doesn't use them in his battery replacement system which needs unipole rotors.  So all in all a pretty useless patent application in my view.

Smudge

unquote:

From the same thread which Chet linked. Note the sentence which I bolded. Sumdge sums up my observations nicely with that statement.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 16, 2022, 11:33:06 PM
Quote
Group: Professor
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1557
[...] His view on fields emanating from pole faces is naive to the extreme [...]

Smudge


Hello,


With all due respect to the Professor...I would love to be "illuminated" as to "from where the field of magnets emanates from, according to his point of view, from his expertise"...??


IMO, the field in a magnet does not emanates from the face of the poles itself...but actually go through, passes by, exactly, through the center of the face of any magnet on Earth...And that "applies" to North and South poles.


And a Magnet is so much directional from that specific center line, right at center of face towards Space...that is so accurate, than a LASER Beam.


Many, but many experiments can prove what I am saying here...


But again, I would like to hear from the Professor...where does Magnetic Field emanates from?...




Respectfully




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Jimboot on April 17, 2022, 02:02:36 AM
Many years ago I was in a room of investor reps including a cia guy and a couple of military contractors, and the former head of a major it co. One of the engineers from a mobile phone co scoffed that the inventor lacked any classical training. The cia guy snapped back quickly that’s exactly the kind of person that could achieve this breakthrough because he did not know it was not possible. The same may apply here.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: lancaIV on April 17, 2022, 06:38:06 AM
A idea for "HES solid state DC generator core" with small ferrite U cores?




Architecture

Cubical

Freelance    https://www.google.com/search?q=Hundertwasser&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=Hundertwasser&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

HES                                 

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/dlattach/attach/186421/image// (https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/dlattach/attach/186421/image//)

                    virtual square- emg-waves in solid   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave)
                   Alternative virtual to solid core-format(e) :  Sine (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_wave),, triangle (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_wave), and sawtooth (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawtooth_wave) waveforms



                   resonant&radiant magnetic&electric noise (circuit)  wave- or frequency- or function-generator

To search-machine f.e. google :
https://www.google.com/search?q=resonant%26radiant+magnetic%26electric+noise+%28circuit%29%C2%A0+wave-+or+frequency-+or+function-generator&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m




wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on April 18, 2022, 09:02:29 PM

Hello,

With all due respect to the Professor...I would love to be "illuminated" as to "from where the field of magnets emanates from, according to his point of view, from his expertise"...??

IMO, the field in a magnet does not emanates from the face of the poles itself...but actually go through, passes by, exactly, through the center of the face of any magnet on Earth...And that "applies" to North and South poles.

And a Magnet is so much directional from that specific center line, right at center of face towards Space...that is so accurate, than a LASER Beam.

Many, but many experiments can prove what I am saying here...

But again, I would like to hear from the Professor...where does Magnetic Field emanates from?...

Respectfully

Ufopolitics

Hello Ufo,
I believe you seek to be "illuminated" by Smudge. I in no way wish to speak for him and in fact would very much like to sit-in, or standby, should he address the subject. However, the subject is touched on in several threads on OUR.com. Member F6FLT has several discussions with Smudge in which both well state the science. You might appreciate reading some of those. Here is a link to one topic.

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4273.msg98584;topicseen#msg98584

I mentioned to you previously that I think you put too much emphasis on the concept of magnetic poles, and the midpoint between them. I think "poles" are a concept used to teach magnets to those lacking prerequisite vector algebra education. And there exist no demarcation between poles. It'd be interesting to read Smudge's or F6's take on your use of Bloch wall.

I have difficulty enough attempting to teach in person and don't even want to try on this format. However I can, and have, learned a lot on these forums and the internet as a whole.

You are a wonderful experimenter and computer artist. I found your most recent video and graphics very well done. I await to see how you handle power and efficiency measurements and calculations. Good luck.
bi

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 18, 2022, 09:33:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLdCEQii5A&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLdCEQii5A&feature=youtu.be)


Barkhausen effect was postulated as a “possible maybe “for a source of gain ? ? _which produce much higher voltages , when the domains toggle back and forth_


Postulated/mused by individual  not associated with claimant
Or investigation of ….


That better iron and  better switching .. might yield higher voltages
during toggling ??
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 19, 2022, 02:33:28 PM
@Bistander,


Thanks for the compliments...


Yes, I base most of my knowledge about magnetism on my own experiments, plus, I must admit, on many explanations on Forums...
Science related to magnetism is way behind...far, I mean, they are still using iron dust, or shavings to "see" a locked magnetic field...lol


And here we differ, related to poles and center wall...as, from where field emanates?


On my short video I have proved something you may have not noticed, and it is pretty simple to see and digest...


I can rise Output power by just rotating faster a virtual Field...without even touching Input Power...or not being affected.


Wait until I get a bigger, better setup, and watch whenever I add a load to Output...


You know perfectly well that a Universal Motor Stator is NOT wound as a generator is, as its core is completely different...hence will never output same amounts of power over time...and rotational speed from virtual field.




Cheers






Ufopolitics



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hartiberlin on April 20, 2022, 01:06:59 AM
Hi Ramset,I found this other video of the barkhausen Effect, that shows how the core materials play a big role in theoutput of the Barkhausen induction output:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLXVLDysroY

The question is, if Holcomb still found a better material that still enhanced the output even some more.
Regards, Stefan.




https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLdCEQii5A&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLdCEQii5A&feature=youtu.be)


Barkhausen effect was postulated as a “possible maybe “for a source of gain ? ? _which produce much higher voltages , when the domains toggle back and forth_


Postulated/mused by individual  not associated with claimant
Or investigation of ….


That better iron and  better switching .. might yield higher voltages
during toggling ??
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on April 20, 2022, 01:59:11 PM
From WO 2021063522


"This system generates electric power according to Faraday's Law. The induced voltage in a coil
is proportional to the product of its number of loops, the cross-section area of each loop, and the
rate at which the magnetic field changes within those loops as well as the flux density of the
changing fields."

So ferrite core and faster exited (switching) like in inverters, probably makes higher output.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on April 21, 2022, 02:35:19 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLdCEQii5A&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLdCEQii5A&feature=youtu.be)


Barkhausen effect was postulated as a “possible maybe “for a source of gain ? ? _which produce much higher voltages , when the domains toggle back and forth_


Postulated/mused by individual  not associated with claimant
Or investigation of ….


That better iron and  better switching .. might yield higher voltages
during toggling ??

This (Barkhausen effect) may be drifting away from Smudge's proposed explanation.
  But..

As generalizations.....

There is a time aspect to               magnetization / residual magnetism.

For a majority of magnetic domains that will reorient into alignment with
the polarity of any given, applied external magnetic field, their reorientation will
occur very rapidly / perhaps almost instantaneously. 
  But also...

There is an    escalating cascading,      in the strength of the induced magnetization of
an iron object.  Newly aligned polarizations increase the strength of the magnetic forces
produced by the iron object itself, as it is being magnetized.  The iron's own magnetic field
in turn produces more alignments (up to a point).   This occurs over some very brief amount
of time.

After / during that "some very brief amount of time" (typically less than 1 second), increase in
magnetization slows down, but still continues to grow.
... .... ... ... ... ... ... ...
There is a time aspect to             demagnetization / drop off in residual magnetism.

In the absence of the applied external magnetic field, the polar alignments begin to
randomize again. That randomization occurs very rapidly within the first second or
fraction there of.

The self demagnetization occus very rapidly initially, but the   rate   of magnetic decrease
slows down over time.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on April 21, 2022, 03:01:37 AM
From WO 2021063522


"This system generates electric power according to Faraday's Law. The induced voltage in a coil is proportional to the product of its number of loops, the cross-section area of each loop, and the rate at which the magnetic field changes within those loops as well as the flux density of the
changing fields."

So ferrite core and faster exited (switching) like in inverters, probably makes higher output.

Yes and this is in part, material composition dependent.

Larger (more massive) magnetic domains exert greater force than do smaller
domains, but also the larger domains will reorient more slowly than smaller ones.

Greater mass, numbers of chemical bonds and distance traveled, will slow down
domain reorientations, but it might still be advantageous to cycle larger fluctuations
but at slower cycles. 

Note..
   Fluctuations do not need to be complete polar reversals in order that they will induce
electric currents.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Goat on April 21, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Hi all;
Just noticed that there is an interview scheduled for tomorrow at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wAMQE3vykE
Not sure if you will be able to ask questions directly?  Like has anyone witnessed the buildings not drawing any power from the grid while operating their device and powering the buildings they use as mentioned in their previous videos?
Seems that would put an end to speculation of whether their device truly can operate without external power.
Regards


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 22, 2022, 03:57:19 PM
Thank you for posting livestream link
Approximately one hour from now .


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8wAMQE3vykE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8wAMQE3vykE)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: captainpecan on April 22, 2022, 05:49:51 PM
Why now is he saying there is a 40% savings of electricity after they have been claiming it has been running for free? Their claims have made it sound like the whole building has been running off the grid. Did i hear that right? Using 40% less electricity is way different than off the grid. I am staying positive, but I am beginning to have flashbacks of Lutec.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 22, 2022, 05:53:31 PM

Hello to All,



I watched the whole interview...no questions asked live... :(


But Dr. Holcomb keeps repeating that the Energy comes from this "Electric Steel"...and so all the atoms that align and re-align, etc,etc...
Generators have been built since Faraday invented the main principle, to having the first generators in history...from Gordon, Tesla, Ferranti, etc,etc...all utilized "Steel" for their machines...and so all atomic reactions took place ever since then...


I, particularly do NOT believe in any kind of "special steel"...or exotic rare alloy...that have these "magic properties"...otherwise Dr. Holcomb would have made first a patenting of these specific alloys...or exotic ferromagnetic materials.


Is Dr. Holcomb not assisted by Electric Engineers, or -at least- anyone "Skilled in the Arts" who can make him come to reality, and not keep repeating the same nonsensical explanation, everytime he is asked "Where does the Energy that your Generators produce, comes from?"


The Energy, simply, comes from the MAGNETIC FIELDS...and a huge "period" after that sentence, which literally means...and that is all!!!!

Without a Magnetic Field being generated FIRST, no Iron nor Steel on Earth will align absolutely no particles, domains or else!!...nada, nothing!!!


I do simphatize a lot with Dr. Holcomb and his views on all the development of his New Technology...However, it is crucial, that someone, gets him out of this huge mistake he keeps repeating over and over...


It makes him look extremely naive related to Electric Energy Generation knowledge and expertise...which is the "Business" He is in now...and not into Medical Sciences.




Respectfully




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on April 22, 2022, 06:03:29 PM
CAPTAIN IT STILL GIVE YOU THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING THE FIRST
TO BRING FORTH THE HOLY OF HOLY GRAIL OF FREE ENERGY INVENTION.
I HAVE SEVERAL SUPER IDEAS UP MY SLEEVES.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: captainpecan on April 22, 2022, 06:03:51 PM
I agree. His explanation is not giving him any credibility.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: captainpecan on April 22, 2022, 06:05:32 PM
CAPTAIN IT STILL GIVE YOU THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING THE FIRST
TO BRING FORTH THE HOLY OF HOLY GRAIL OF FREE ENERGY INVENTION.
I HAVE SEVERAL SUPER IDEAS UP MY SLEEVES.
I don't think any of us cares who brings forth the holy grail. It's just time someone did. I just hope when it finally happens it is open sourced. So we can all benefit. And keep those ideas cooking!!!
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on April 22, 2022, 06:25:35 PM
IT IS EASY TO SAY CAPTAIN. BUT WILL YOU TELL YOUR WIFE IF YOU HAVE WON
340 MILLION US DOLLARS ON POWER BALL LOTTERY?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: skywatcher on April 22, 2022, 06:59:27 PM
Hello to All,



I watched the whole interview...no questions asked live... :(


But Dr. Holcomb keeps repeating that the Energy comes from this "Electric Steel"...and so all the atoms that align and re-align, etc,etc...
Generators have been built since Faraday invented the main principle, to having the first generators in history...from Gordon, Tesla, Ferranti, etc,etc...all utilized "Steel" for their machines...and so all atomic reactions took place ever since then...


I, particularly do NOT believe in any kind of "special steel"...or exotic rare alloy...that have these "magic properties"...otherwise Dr. Holcomb would have made first a patenting of these specific alloys...or exotic ferromagnetic materials.


Is Dr. Holcomb not assisted by Electric Engineers, or -at least- anyone "Skilled in the Arts" who can make him come to reality, and not keep repeating the same nonsensical explanation, everytime he is asked "Where does the Energy that your Generators produce, comes from?"


The Energy, simply, comes from the MAGNETIC FIELDS...and a huge "period" after that sentence, which literally means...and that is all!!!!

Without a Magnetic Field being generated FIRST, no Iron nor Steel on Earth will align absolutely no particles, domains or else!!...nada, nothing!!!


I do simphatize a lot with Dr. Holcomb and his views on all the development of his New Technology...However, it is crucial, that someone, gets him out of this huge mistake he keeps repeating over and over...


It makes him look extremely naive related to Electric Energy Generation knowledge and expertise...which is the "Business" He is in now...and not into Medical Sciences.




Respectfully




Ufopolitics

I don't care how it works... if it would work at all.
The highest priority should be to bring it on the market. First model should be small, so that everyone could afford buying it.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 22, 2022, 07:48:53 PM
I don't care how it works... if it would work at all.
The highest priority should be to bring it on the market. First model should be small, so that everyone could afford buying it.


Well...it happens this is not the On-Line Store for Walmart, Home Depot or Best Buy... ;D


It is a Scientific Research Forum called Overunity, for renewable and free energy development(s)...SO, it does matter "to know how it works"


Btw, You said you wanted small, and cheap...but, what color did you say you want it?




LOL




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: skywatcher on April 22, 2022, 07:58:55 PM

Well...it happens this is not the On-Line Store for Walmart, Home Depot or Best Buy... ;D


It is a Scientific Research Forum called Overunity, for renewable and free energy development(s)...SO, it does matter "to know how it works"


Btw, You said you wanted small, and cheap...but, what color did you say you want it?




LOL




Ufopolitics

Well... you are right... but if Mr. Holcomb will not give us the 'blueprints' of his generator, the only option would be to buy such a device from him, and then (maybe) we could figure out how it works. But maybe he doesn't even know how it works.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on April 22, 2022, 08:08:37 PM
Well... you are right... but if Mr. Holcomb will not give us the 'blueprints' of his generator, the only option would be to buy such a device from him, and then (maybe) we could figure out how it works. But maybe he doesn't even know how it works.


Skywatcher,


It is not for sale...He is looking for Investors at this time...


I would also love to buy one...or at least some of the components...but He still have some Patent pending applications.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: skywatcher on April 22, 2022, 08:21:45 PM

Skywatcher,


It is not for sale...He is looking for Investors at this time...


I would also love to buy one...or at least some of the components...but He still have some Patent pending applications.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
I know. It's always the same. Some people are playing this game for years. Never selling anything, because there is nothing to sell.

If i would be an investor, i would only invest my money if i get a working prototype, which i can test in my own environment, for a time period which is long enough to rule out any hidden batteries etc.  This would be my condition. But unfortunately most investors are dumb.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Goat on April 22, 2022, 10:32:56 PM
Hi Everyone

I'm almost sorry I linked the "Live Interview" as it wasn't what I would've hoped for IE: Not a "Skilled in the arts" interviewer asking nitty gritty questions about how it works.

But there were a couple of things that answered some questions.

captainpecan:  re: 40% savings of electricity. 

You're right on that one because in the previous videos he mentioned running the buildings on this system.  He did mention in the interview that the more you run it towards 100% or OU then the efficiency goes up.  So I'm not sure why they're not running it completely off grid, unless it's a grid-tie problem or other.

Ufopolitics: Every point you made is spot on, especially with the "Skilled in the arts", otherwise it doesn't explain much.

My Take-Away was these few points:

The Plexiglass example (in his previous videos and this one) is for laypeople not "Skilled in the arts" to clarify that you can't get magnetic domains in any material such as wood or plexiglass but only special steel, and that according to him is where the extra energy comes from.

He mentions that it only takes very little energy to affect the magnetic domains. In one of the videos he mentioned 5 ms switching times but no other values.

He said that he will distribute these by the end of the year through an unnamed manufacturer and after that it will be able to be reproduced by any manufacturers able to build generators with a bit of re-tooling.  He mentioned it was like a lisencing deal so that should help if it works.

So sorry folks, it was more like an infomercial with very little info.

Regards


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: captainpecan on April 23, 2022, 12:20:53 AM
Never say you are sorry for helping to provide facts! The only reason you feel disappointed in this interview is because he has made huge claims and still not really showing much to us. That's on him, not you. Please keep sharing anything you can!


Something interesting I'm getting from his interview is that what he has is simply a transformer. I know, it sounds stupid, but this is what I am hearing from him. He is just hooking it inline. I added a quick sketch of something extremely simple that every one of us already knows about, and it just seems to fit exactly his claims here.
Clearly, I could be wrong, but this does fit his description.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Goat on April 23, 2022, 02:42:28 AM
Hi all

I listened to the video again and heard something that I didn't hear the 1st time so here goes...

At around 1:20 and after that part of the interview it gets interesting in that he talks about magnetic pooling after relaxation of the magnetic domains acting on the electrical steel and it's atoms...I'm curious to hear from this forum's experts to explain how this could yield an exponential energy amplification...not an expert...just curious to see if his explanation holds any truth about electrical steel atoms and magnetic domains being manipulated to get a gain from magnetic spin around the steel atoms producing a positive feedback or whatever to get a gain.

Again, I'm not an expert which is why I'm asking anyone who can explain the possibility of OU based on what he is describing.

Regards   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 23, 2022, 10:05:53 AM

WIPO PCT INTERNATIONAL SEARCH AND PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION GUIDELINES[/font][/size]

Industrial Applicability[/font][/size]A14.01[2].1 Some International Authorities consider claimed subject matter to have industrial applicability only when all of the following requirements have been met; otherwise industrial applicability is lacking:[/size](1) The international application must indicate the way in which the invention is capable of exploitation in industry (its intended function, special purpose or specific use).[/size](2) The international application must disclose the invention in a manner sufficiently clear and complete (defining means and ways) for the invention to be carried out by a person skilled in the art. In the absence of such information it is permissible that the manner for carrying out the invention is disclosed in a source that was available to the public before the date of priority of the invention.[/size](3) It must actually be possible while carrying out any claim (or claims) by a person skilled in the art to realize the indicated special purpose (specific use) of the invention.





A14.01[2].6 As an example, when the subject matter of the claim is “perpetuum mobile” it would not be recognized as complying with requirement (3) even where the international application complies with requirement (2), since it operates contrary to the well-established physical laws. Requirement (3) is also deemed not to have been complied with in cases of technical errors which are not necessarily linked with basic laws of nature but nevertheless result in a failure of the claimed subject matter to be usable for the special purpose indicated by the applicant.



From this I can see that the WIPO will not grant a patent to Holcomb, irrespective of whether the device works or not, as he claims the device is self running which is a definition of perpetuum mobile.


Without a patent protecting the IP, mainstream investment sources  will not finance it.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on April 23, 2022, 10:20:55 AM
Never say you are sorry for helping to provide facts! The only reason you feel disappointed in this interview is because he has made huge claims and still not really showing much to us. That's on him, not you. Please keep sharing anything you can!


Something interesting I'm getting from his interview is that what he has is simply a transformer. I know, it sounds stupid, but this is what I am hearing from him. He is just hooking it inline. I added a quick sketch of something extremely simple that every one of us already knows about, and it just seems to fit exactly his claims here.
Clearly, I could be wrong, but this does fit his description.


The cogeneration patent US20120007708A1 is hard to understand but my interpretation is that it was taking the neutral returns from a normally connected wye motor and connecting them to coils in the induction rotor of his device before returning them to the line neutral.

The idea is that he can generate say three phase power on the stator of his device without increasing the power  into the motor or reducing its power output.

Somewhat like having transformers in the neutral legs of the motor wye connection, so if you load the transformer secondary you lower the impedance of the primary which ensures motor current is maintained. However by inserting the device you raise the impedance prior to loading, even though he used heavy gauge wire to minimise the I/R losses.

Unless the device does not manifest lenz current I can't see how this would work. If the device did not manifest lenz current, why would you need to go to the trouble of connecting it in this fashion.

Looking at  all the filings for US20120007708A1 on the USPTO site, Holcomb went through an extensive rejection process for this application US20120007708A1. Eventually he got the application published but then he went through a similar rejection process as the USPTO reviewed the application. Eventually he gave up, as the documents show the application was abandoned due to Holcomb failing to respond to USPTO requests for information.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on April 25, 2022, 09:45:18 PM
GK did share this at Peter’s Forum (Over unity research)
https://holcombenergysystems.com/technology-breakthrough/ (https://holcombenergysystems.com/technology-breakthrough/)
I am uncertain if link or similar was posted here .
Respectfully submitted
Chet K
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: captainpecan on April 25, 2022, 10:44:38 PM
GK did share this at Peter’s Forum (Over unity research)
https://holcombenergysystems.com/technology-breakthrough/ (https://holcombenergysystems.com/technology-breakthrough/)
I am uncertain if link or similar was posted here .
Respectfully submitted
Chet K
I see they made the completely off grid claim again in theory 2nd system. I'm a little confused as to why they didn't show that system or talk about it in the interview. I'm curious as to why they are still paying the power company at all and only claiming a percentage of savings? I'm wondering if their self looping version isn't really working. I'm wondering if they are seeking funding to go further and he BELIEVES it will self loop.
I am not understanding why he isn't showing us the best part working. Wouldn't that help get him his funding? If I had a self looper and wanted funding, I would be showing the hell out of it! I'm wondering what's up.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pmgr on April 26, 2022, 06:51:25 AM
You can find this video on that last link as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW-gUj8HFC4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW-gUj8HFC4)


You can verify all the meters and power calculations in that video (note that some meters measure a 3 phase system, so apply the appropriate formulas for a 3 phase system).


Looks like the real thing. The only odd thing I noticed is the low power factors on some of the meters. Maybe he is converting reactive power (something for which you don't pay) into real power. If that is the case, the power companies won't be happy about that as everyone who would have a system like this would be putting an enormous reactive power request on the power lines.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Floor on April 26, 2022, 07:29:50 AM
opinion...

If the claims are valid, our personal electric energy costs would not decrease.
                    Realistically / most likely....
we would have to accept our paying between two and three times more per
KWH, before the corporates would allow this technology ?
                          But...
we might, in so doing buy time for our plant/ species ?
                      Realistically / most likely ...
in the absence of direct personal monetary gain, from it, probably most would not
approve of paying more for less, and do little, to nothing to bring about its manifestation ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: HolcombTruth on April 27, 2022, 01:47:01 PM
Man is a fraud and crook. Steals ideals, patents and then proclaims a break through. Research

https://www.nashvillepost.com/home/legal-dispute-over-holcomb-intellectual-property-expands/article_2afcce0f-8ac1-5240-b7fb-afd4444ce1e4.html

He ruins lives, leaves people holding financial burden and slithers off.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hartiberlin on April 27, 2022, 11:20:04 PM
Is this the first attempt to disqualify the inventor with a legal battle from a new user account ???
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hartiberlin on April 27, 2022, 11:28:03 PM


https://www.nashvillepost.com/home/legal-dispute-over-holcomb-intellectual-property-expands/article_2afcce0f-8ac1-5240-b7fb-afd4444ce1e4.html (https://www.nashvillepost.com/home/legal-dispute-over-holcomb-intellectual-property-expands/article_2afcce0f-8ac1-5240-b7fb-afd4444ce1e4.html)


Please only discuss the technical things of his invention and not some legal drivel in a newspaper... :o :o :o


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hartiberlin on April 27, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
Alexei Smirnov
Apr 1, 2004
Is this an April 1st joke ???


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: captainpecan on April 28, 2022, 12:53:20 AM
That's a very lame attempt of a smear campaign. Now I'm more interested to look into this further. Makes you wonder why the attempt? Why not show something within last 15 years at least that could question his claims of his device now? No explanations of how it works and isn't OU? Just lame attacks.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: BorisKrabow on April 28, 2022, 02:45:27 AM
The revival in this topic attracted me    :)  . Once Dr. Newman claimed that the amplification in his generator comes from the rotation of electrons .
There is an interesting coincidence with Dr. Holcomb's statement .You can try to simplify the device and apply several effects at once.
  Two primary coils create and shift the polarization phase of the magnetic domains .Secondary coils create magnetic fields partially neutralize each other.
also the total field of the two secondary coils does not coincide with the direction of the primary coils and therefore has less effect on the primary coils.
I had to come up with a name: Two phase Domain Incredible Polarizer ( DIP )    :)  .
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on April 28, 2022, 03:50:55 AM
Is this the first attempt to disqualify the inventor with a legal battle from a new user account ???


It looks to me like the same old case of Big Pharma hiring someone to go after anything which heals with electricity or magnets, i.e. something that does not use their overpriced drugs and other expensive treatments.   With an electrical healing device you buy it once and never need to pay again. 
There are numerous electronic devices that can heal many things but they are highly suppressed and ridiculed.   Apparently Holcomb had created one such device.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on April 29, 2022, 09:06:10 PM
I am amazed how such a simple method surprises surprise. What is the magnetic permeability of the core material?

With the same magnetic field strength, the magnetic induction in steel is greater than in cast iron. This is due to the fact that the magnetic permeability of steel is greater than the magnetic permeability of cast iron.
The magnetic induction is directly proportional to the field strength H and the absolute magnetic permeability μa of the magnetized material:

B = μaH. (35)

Example. The magnetic field strength of the coil is H = 750 a/m, and the absolute magnetic permeability of the core is μа = 0.0008792 gn/m. Determine the magnetic induction of the core.
Decision . Magnetic induction B \u003d μa H \u003d 0.0008792 750 \u003d 0.65 t. Since 1 t = 10,000 gauss, then 0.65 t = 6500 gauss.

method can be categorized as a transgenerator. excitation transformer, extraction as a generator.

It's like that the primary winding was wound over the core, and the removable phase was missed inside the core. In this embodiment, there is no inductive coupling of the primary and secondary windings. The transmission occurs through the magnetic flux of the core, which is why its magnetic permeability matters.

I've been working on this for a long time. Sincerely

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/04/electric-solid-state-generator.html?m=1

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on April 30, 2022, 01:28:38 PM
And i am doing this.
I was given a tentative option for connecting the coils.
What can you say?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: forest on April 30, 2022, 08:35:46 PM
connection has to be such as to fulfill arragement which give you zero lenz law effect while maximize EMF output
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 01, 2022, 09:09:42 AM
You are moving away from a topic that is much more interesting than Andrea Slobodian rotator rotator.

In 1902, Clemente Figuera introduced a converter in cosmic efficiency. His device received energy at the input from a small dynamo, with an alternating current output. The energy entered the device and had an output from the device, with a much higher power indicator. It was only in 1908 that a resistive switch was proposed to control and receive energy from a DC source.

The main thing is the concept that has been defined, not transformer but trans generator.

I am even more sure that Tesla's mechanical converter (late 19th century) had the same principle. A 90-degree shift should be sought not in the waveform graph, but in the mechanical placement of the structure.

I am giving a link to a Canadian patent: Electrical generator - solid state configuration
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf
https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2357550A1/en

Quote
1. An electrical generator which has no moving parts.
2. An electrical generator with no moving parts which has no apparent size or output limitations.
3. An electrical generator which operates with all of its essential components, including electromagnets and coils, in stationary position.
4. A solid state electrical generator.
5. A solid state electrical generator which can provide its energy or electrical current output as either alternating current, or direct current.
6. An electrical generator which requires no mechanical motive power for its operation or output.
7. An electrical generator which can be built in a more compact form, for the amount of its potential output than would be the case with mechanically powered and operated electrical generators.
8. An electrical generator which can be miniaturized to very small proportions, to where it may be used as a small portable or emergency energy source, in either AC or DC, to power electronic, radio or telecommunications installations, etc.
9. An electrical generator which, when energized by an available DC power source, can operate for the long term, to the extent of the lifespan of one or more of its essential components.


I think if you have a brain, you don't need commentaries.
This is still the same concept of an electromagnetic converter according to the trans generator principle.


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 01, 2022, 03:09:15 PM
It was only in 1908 that a resistive switch was proposed to control and receive energy from a DC source.
This switch with resistors is simply a circular rheostat with a running contact along the wire.
In any case, a round rheostat without a limiter would produce a smoother change in resistance.
Why didn't Figuera use it?

з.ы.
How can I get to Ukraine now?
Only through third countries? ;)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 01, 2022, 08:58:24 PM
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c0/74/57/63c418177a51dc/US20020125774A1.pdf

Аnother similar design!
It has inaccuracies where direct repetition makes it meaningless.

In the left figure, the location of the excitation electromagnets indicated in the patent (absurd from the point of view of working with the phase winding of the output current), in the right figure, my edits how to do it right.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 01, 2022, 10:03:13 PM
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c0/74/57/63c418177a51dc/US20020125774A1.pdf

Аnother similar design!
It has inaccuracies where direct repetition makes it meaningless.

In the left figure, the location of the excitation electromagnets indicated in the patent (absurd from the point of view of working with the phase winding of the output current), in the right figure, my edits how to do it right.

Hello rakarskiy,
I think you miss the fact it is for 3-phase, 2-pole as shown in his Fig. 6.
bi


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 01, 2022, 11:03:04 PM
I also have been working on this systems for a very  long time...


Figuera did NOT get his input from "any dynamo"...but from a simple Battery...
Figuera used a Commutator driven by a very small motor (that he got built for him in Germany) and the effect he created was to MOVE the VIRTUAL MAGNETIC FIELD back and forth in the Exciting Coils, in a sequential way in order to Induce all his Output Coils in front and rear of the exciters.


I have also reproduced Figuera, plus I have read his Patent from the original Language it was written (Spanish)...There are a lot of bad translations going around...


This is NOT about any Transformer or Trans Generator kind of deal...


This is simply moving a VIRTUAL MAGNETIC FIELD through Steel Cores and Copper Coils...

And there are MANY WAYS to attempt to build this...However, to be "successful" is NOT guaranteed... ;D




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 02, 2022, 02:43:28 AM
Ufopolitics
Quote
I also have been working on this systems for a very  long time...
Figuera did NOT get his input from "any dynamo"...but from a simple Battery...

Initially I thought so as well however from the 1908 patent after Figuera describes his rotary switch ...
Quote
From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine
converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the
brush and the switch; the external current supply, this is the feeding current,
is removed and the machine continue working without any help indefinitely
.

Here he seems to claim he removes the feeding current, the battery, and the machine becomes self-exciting. I believe I caught this around 2016 and didn't know what to think initially. My theory at the time was that the independently induced coils "y" may feed energy back into the system or the switched german silver resistance coils "R" play some part.

It's definitely an enigma and I learn something new every time I reread a patent, more so after a period of time. I takes time for an idea to properly form in our mind.

I also look at the "keywords" used throughout a patent to describe a component or feature. Here Figuera talks about self-excitation, working without any help indefinitely, no new force is required and the machine will continue in operation indefinitely. I could be wrong but my intuition tells me this is a self-runner and does not need an input source to operate.

Of course today were not allowed to use such language or a patent is labelled a perpetua mobilia. I found all the patents prior to 1940 are where all the best descriptions of working technology are found. All this new age bs never did start my tractor, lol.

Regards
AC

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 02, 2022, 07:24:57 AM
Friends, I came to my transformer (on the principle of a transgenerator) myself, several years ago. Only then did I start looking for similar technologies and found them with Clemente Figuer (possibly Tesla), a French patent, and all other devices change only in name and engineering design, but the principle is common to all. I'm not entirely public on the resonant circuit system and this transgeneration technology. There are also my mechanical developments on a similar principle "Rotoverter RAGEN". In the near future I will finish my material, I want it to be with a calculation algorithm. By the way, I worked out the principle of transgeneration (for a removable transformer) in order to remove power from the resonant circuit, but when everything came together in the calculated data, I was convinced of my mistake. But for the electromagnetic principle, this method is the best.

In the figure, where I show an error in a continuous Electric Generator, this is fundamental, if you have not seen, then you do not understand how the phase of the secondary circuit should work.
There are no secrets, everything is in physics textbooks, and these designs are engineering art.

Attached is the Portnov generator, a similar principle for understanding.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 02, 2022, 05:03:11 PM
Rakarskiy
Indeed it is an art...
Many would suppose these electrical devices are life less like paint and anyone can throw them together. However only a true artist can turn ordinary paint into a masterpiece. The paint has little to do with it and it was the creativity, vision and application which produced the end result.

Sure some could be taught to paint by numbers but we should never confuse what a real artist does. An artist takes something ordinary and turns it into something unique greater than the simple sum of its parts.

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: e2matrix on May 02, 2022, 10:11:12 PM
Friends, I came to my transformer (on the principle of a transgenerator) myself, several years ago. Only then did I start looking for similar technologies and found them with Clemente Figuer (possibly Tesla), a French patent, and all other devices change only in name and engineering design, but the principle is common to all. I'm not entirely public on the resonant circuit system and this transgeneration technology. There are also my mechanical developments on a similar principle "Rotoverter RAGEN". In the near future I will finish my material, I want it to be with a calculation algorithm. By the way, I worked out the principle of transgeneration (for a removable transformer) in order to remove power from the resonant circuit, but when everything came together in the calculated data, I was convinced of my mistake. But for the electromagnetic principle, this method is the best.

In the figure, where I show an error in a continuous Electric Generator, this is fundamental, if you have not seen, then you do not understand how the phase of the secondary circuit should work.
There are no secrets, everything is in physics textbooks, and these designs are engineering art.

Attached is the Portnov generator, a similar principle for understanding.


Thanks rakarskiy,  Attached is your PDF translated with Google translate to English:
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 03, 2022, 10:45:51 AM
I agree that engineering creativity leads to inventions. The main thing is that nothing can be done with minimal knowledge. But really. we invent everything that is already invented and hidden. A little about my project (Solid State Generator "UKRAINE") and what it is based on. No electronic theory, everything is based on the Law of electromagnetic induction (preferably according to Maxwell), on Ohm's laws, for electric and magnetic circuits.
I'm trying to make a pulse system, in my opinion it should be more powerful, since there are a lot of losses in the remagnetization of the core (hysteresis). I want to note that Tesla and Dolivo-Dobrovolsky associated the future of energy with impulse technologies.
Sincerely.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/05/electric-solid-state-generator-tg.html
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 03, 2022, 11:38:15 AM
I ask,how me get to your ukraine now ?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 03, 2022, 12:11:07 PM
I ask,how me get to your ukraine now ?

If you are in the list of countries, join the just defense of my country UKRAINE as a legionnaire (foreign legion of Ukraine). Russian barbarian cannibals who vilely attacked my country back in 2014, and on April 24, 2022 treacherously invaded with a large army from different directions, destroy cities, kill peaceful men, women and children.
https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/en-ru.ru.6b0794a0-6270fbe4-87adeb16-74722d776562/https/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Legion_of_Territorial_Defense_of_Ukraine
https://uacrisis.org/ru/internatsionalnyj-legion

PS The post is off topic, but it is the answer to the question. https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-war-in-ukraine-glory-to-ukraine.html
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 04, 2022, 09:37:04 AM
thanks.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 04, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Solid-state electromagnetic rotor
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/eb/0c/07/d463fa60c9f935/WO2021063522A1.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCybmZRY4-LZi3ZHsqByvOwQ  ?????????
If a guy instead of a jumper core with a removal coil, made an internal armature with grooves, and wound the generator winding, he would get the desired design of a solid-state transgenerator. By the way, he just needs to remove the core and make a block of removable windings fixed using the slots of the generator.

https://youtu.be/Pnein7agC_8
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We have already created the first HES prototype for cell phones. This technology is scalable for all imaginable applications... Imagine one day never having to charge your phone or computer again!

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf


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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/05/electric-solid-state-generator-tg.html

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 04, 2022, 01:35:41 PM
What is the basis of the action of the generator, leading to the effect of overunity. Just read an excerpt from a physics textbook:

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"Ferromagnetic materials, such as iron, cobalt, nickel and their alloys, steel, etc., are widely used in various electrical machines and apparatus to amplify the magnetic field and give it a certain shape.
If a ferromagnetic material is placed in a coil and an electric current is passed through its turns, then under the influence of the magnetic field created by the current, the material is magnetized. This means that the material has its own magnetic field, obtained as a result of the addition of magnetic fields (magnetic moments) of individual atoms.
A change in the current strength in the coil leads to a change in the strength of its magnetic field H, which causes a change in the magnetic induction B in the core of this coil.
The state of a material in which a further increase in the magnetic field strength does not lead to an increase in its magnetization is called magnetic saturation.
The magnetic properties of materials are characterized by their absolute magnetic permeability μa. It is determined by the ratio of the magnetic induction B to the magnetic field strength H and is measured in henry/meter (gn/m): μa = B/H
Absolute magnetic permeability of vacuum μa = 4π 10-7 gn/m. For air and other non-ferromagnetic materials, it slightly differs from μa and, in technical calculations, is taken equal to 4π · 10-7 gn/m.
Since the absolute magnetic permeability for vacuum and the above materials is practically the same, then μa is called the magnetic constant μ0.
The absolute magnetic permeability μa of ferromagnetic materials is not constant and is many times higher than the magnetic permeability of vacuum.

The number showing how many times the absolute magnetic permeability μа of a ferromagnetic material is greater than the magnetic constant μ0 is called relative magnetic permeability μ or magnetic permeability for short: μ = μа / μ0

With the same magnetic field strength, the magnetic induction in steel is greater than in cast iron. This is due to the fact that the magnetic permeability of steel is greater than the magnetic permeability of cast iron. The magnetic induction is directly proportional to the field strength H and the absolute magnetic permeability μа of the magnetized material: B = μаH
Example. The magnetic field strength of the coil is H = 750 A/m, and the absolute magnetic permeability of the core is μа = 0.0008792 gn/m. Determine the magnetic induction of the core.
Decision. Magnetic induction B = μаH = 0,0008792 · 750 = 0,65 T.
Since 1 T = 10,000 gauss, then 0.65 t = 6500 gauss."

Let me explain what is "surprising" in this issue, which everyone knows about and no one sees point-blank, that this is overunity. Imagine the winding of a toroidal transformer with an iron core and an air frame.

The intensity of the magnetic field, which is created in the ring core when current I flows through the winding, can be calculated by the formula: H = N*I/l, where: N is the number of turns; I - current strength in the wire, Ampere; l is the length of the ring along the midline, meters.

Let's say we have 75 turns, with a current in the wire equal to 1 Ampere and a length of the middle line of the ring core 100 mm (0.1 meter): H = N * I / l = 75 * 1 / 0.1 = 750 A / m

Source voltage U = 5 V, power is P = UI = 5 * 1 = 5 W

Absolute magnetic permeability: air = 1.25663753 * 10(−6) (0.000001257) gn / m, core = 0.0008792 gn / m, it remains only to calculate the magnetic induction at a magnetic field strength of the winding equal to 750 A / m:

Without core: B = μаH = 0.00000125663753 *750 = 0.000942478 T,

With a core: B = μaH = 0.0008792 * 750 = 0.6594 T.

With the same expended source power of 5 W, we obtained an increase in the resulting magnetic induction by 700 times.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on May 04, 2022, 02:37:14 PM
...
With the same expended source power of 5 W, we obtained an increase in the resulting magnetic induction by 700 times.

Hi Rakarsky,

This is exactly what I have been experimenting with for the past 8 months. I’m glad someone else sees it for what it is, thanks for speaking up.

Regards
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 04, 2022, 03:03:27 PM
We take the company's patent,
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/eb/0c/07/d463fa60c9f935/WO2021063522A1.pdf

and we compare it with the principle of the Figure generator. It is more logical to alternate electromagnets by polarity.
I congratulate Robert Holcomb on the realization of an idea that is more than 110 years old.

By the way, the patent rights to the Figuerа Generator belong to the World Bank.  Such simple information, if suddenly everything collapses with development, as always.


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 04, 2022, 03:15:14 PM
Hello to All,


Text books related to magnetism, plus properties...are full of BS, and lots of confusing terms...for example, a part of the text cited prior by Rakarsky:


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If a ferromagnetic material is placed in a coil and an electric current is passed through its turns, then under the influence of the magnetic field created by the current, the material is magnetized. This means that "the material has its own magnetic field", obtained as a result of the addition of magnetic fields (magnetic moments) of individual atoms.


Negative to the "affirmation" that the "Material (Iron Core) has its own Magnetic Field" !!!


The Magnetic Field, INVOKED by passing currents through a SPECIFIC WOUND copper wire that we all know as "COIL" ,  generates A MAGNETIC FIELD (JUST ONE), which is TRANSFERRED to the Iron Core Mass, and going into details, to align the specific domains.


A Magnetic Field is a SPATIAL SPECTRUM FIELD, which is INVOKED (so far by ancient knowledge, as the only way we all know so far...) based on currents flowing in a continuous spiral shaped geometry of any given conductor, period.


This Field can "transfer, redirect, jump to", etc,etc to any given ferromagnetic material...


But, still, even in another material...whether by transfer, redirection or else...is the SAME ORIGINATED FIELD.


From "my own text book"... ;D




Cheers




Ufopolitics







Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 04, 2022, 03:20:46 PM
Ufopolitics, how are permanent magnets made? Your textbook is very inaccurate.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 04, 2022, 03:36:41 PM
Ufopolitics, how are permanent magnets made? Your textbook is very inaccurate.


Rakarsky,


Want a debate?...sorry, but do not have the time, nor the interest.


You and I know perfectly well "how PM are made"...different thing from what the text book is citing, which is a TEMPORARY FERROMAGNETIC CORE, that when that circular current STOPS FLOWING, the Field collapses.


And so, my point was simple...there are not "Two Magnetic Fields" there...or one for the coil current flowing PLUS "another one" for the core...that is entirely B.S.


Permanent Magnets are made of specific materials, (from ceramics to Neodymium) which happen to have specific characteristics VERY DIFFERENT from a plain and common steel core, whether laminated or not...these characteristics allow them to preserve the Magnetic Field that was "STAMPED" for very long periods of time....some call it "Magnetic Memory"...




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on May 04, 2022, 03:47:54 PM
Math and scientific theories exist to explain an effect.

I focus on the effect first.

Cheers
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 04, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
Ufopolitics, Controversy!?

https://www.bog5.in.ua/lection/magnetism_lect/lect6_magn_eng.html
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documents/college-eps/metallurgy/research/Magnetic-Materials-Background/Magnetic-Materials-Background-10-Soft-Magnets.pdf

Why is the demagnetization property important for electrical steel? Small magnetic memory?

There are ferro materials that are poorly demagnetized, and if they are poorly demagnetized, then they have their own magnetic field after removing the electromagnetic source that generated the field in the material. Or this field was already there, and this effect is called residual magnetization, it's just that in certain paramagnets it is very high.

The question of the dimensionality of self-induction of a coil with a core and without a core from a ferro material is generally a classic. 

I do not exclude your vision of the problem at all. But I will not concede my point of view.
With respect.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 04, 2022, 05:57:15 PM
Ufopolitics, Controversy!?

https://www.bog5.in.ua/lection/magnetism_lect/lect6_magn_eng.html (https://www.bog5.in.ua/lection/magnetism_lect/lect6_magn_eng.html)
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documents/college-eps/metallurgy/research/Magnetic-Materials-Background/Magnetic-Materials-Background-10-Soft-Magnets.pdf (https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documents/college-eps/metallurgy/research/Magnetic-Materials-Background/Magnetic-Materials-Background-10-Soft-Magnets.pdf)

Why is the demagnetization property important for electrical steel? Small magnetic memory?

There are ferro materials that are poorly demagnetized, and if they are poorly demagnetized, then they have their own magnetic field after removing the electromagnetic source that generated the field in the material. Or this field was already there, and this effect is called residual magnetization, it's just that in certain paramagnets it is very high.

The question of the dimensionality of self-induction of a coil with a core and without a core from a ferro material is generally a classic. 

I do not exclude your vision of the problem at all. But I will not concede my point of view.
With respect.


We all live in a huge Magnetic Field...some live closer to the pole division lines...or the middle...or the poles itself...therefore, we are observing all kind that some call "magnetic anomalies" which is a product of our own planet environmental properties.


Fact is that by just spinning a piece of a non magnetized steel bar in a Lathe, at high RPM's...and working on it by just shaving some metal off...it becomes "magnetized"...and we all can see how the shavings keep adhered to the piece of originally "non magnetized steel"...  ;D


There are "Field Effects" everywhere you look around...


Related to the "demagnetization rates" or the "Magnetic Reminiscences"...have a lot to do with the type of Field that "influenced" them...


For example, a constant one way field, being applied to the same piece of steel...for long periods of time, end up magnetizing that piece of steel, even if currents are no longer flowing...BUT NOT with the same intensity as the original field strength!!...yes, it is called "reminiscence"...and we see it in every Generator Rotor Steel Core...which have a "one way" DC Field at all times during operation.


Now, you apply the REVERSE FIELD (reversing current flow), to that same piece of steel...and vualá...it looses all "reminiscence"...


If you are applying a constantly reversing field to a piece of steel...it will hardly get magnetized, or have any magnetic reminiscence...like a Stator in a Generator...




Cheers






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 04, 2022, 07:50:28 PM
Ufopolitics, all these charms are studied on the course in any decent educational institution.
It is for this design that knowledge of electric and magnetic circuit currents is important.
If a gap of at least 1 m is made in the annular core, the result of magnetic induction will be different, much smaller.

Good luck to you! Sincerely yours!
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 05, 2022, 08:28:40 AM
I congratulate Robert Holcomb on the realization of an idea that is more than 110 years old.
I mentioned the similarity of the device with Figuera's device a month ago.
Nobody heard me .  :(
I just don't understand the role of switchable resistance.
It's just an ordinary rheostat. :)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 05, 2022, 04:51:50 PM
What is the basis of the action of the generator, leading to the effect of overunity. Just read an excerpt from a physics textbook:

Let me explain what is "surprising" in this issue, which everyone knows about and no one sees point-blank, that this is overunity. Imagine the winding of a toroidal transformer with an iron core and an air frame.

The intensity of the magnetic field, which is created in the ring core when current I flows through the winding, can be calculated by the formula: H = N*I/l, where: N is the number of turns; I - current strength in the wire, Ampere; l is the length of the ring along the midline, meters.

Let's say we have 75 turns, with a current in the wire equal to 1 Ampere and a length of the middle line of the ring core 100 mm (0.1 meter): H = N * I / l = 75 * 1 / 0.1 = 750 A / m

Source voltage U = 5 V, power is P = UI = 5 * 1 = 5 W

Absolute magnetic permeability: air = 1.25663753 * 10(−6) (0.000001257) gn / m, core = 0.0008792 gn / m, it remains only to calculate the magnetic induction at a magnetic field strength of the winding equal to 750 A / m:

Without core: B = μаH = 0.00000125663753 *750 = 0.000942478 T,

With a core: B = μaH = 0.0008792 * 750 = 0.6594 T.

With the same expended source power of 5 W, we obtained an increase in the resulting magnetic induction by 700 times.


 :D  Then why every transformer isn't OU?
Listen, everyone who graduated secondary school knows what permeability is and that ferromagnetic materials amplify weak magnetic field.
As soon as you want to utilise that amplified magnetic field and current is flowing in the output coil-Lenz law applies, and small current in the output coil is enough to create opposite amplified magnetic field counter reacting  amplified magnetic field created by inducing current from the input coil. It works both ways.


Cheers,
Pix





Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ariovaldo on May 05, 2022, 05:12:01 PM
Years ago, I tried to replicate Figueira's setup, but I stopped short (no time). This video shows the resistance array that I put together ( just as an example)


https://youtube.com/shorts/nAeWdqSCTek?feature=share
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 05, 2022, 05:59:27 PM
I mentioned the similarity of the device with Figuera's device a month ago.
Nobody heard me .  :(
I just don't understand the role of switchable resistance.
It's just an ordinary rheostat. :)

Figuera, judging by his patents, has two designs in the form of a dynamo with fixed parts (1902), and a second patent (1908), revealing the essence of control, by changing the magnetic induction of the magnetic field in electromagnets, due to a smooth change in resistance in the circuit of electromagnets (through the slider contact of the ring rheostat). In 1902-1904 moving the moving contact over the rheostat was a common solution. It was Figuera who was the first to use this meter for a system for generating (more precisely, converting) electricity. Most importantly, I laid the phase wire in the gap between the electromagnets. "Y" in the diagram in the Figueira patent  (https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/dlattach/attach/186872/image//)is exactly the element in which the phase wires are laid. Unlike Holcomb Energy Systems, Figuera has a single-phase design.
It is impossible to achieve magnetic induction so that the output power exceeds the excitation costs in the transformer version. This is only possible when the wire is inside the core (in the groove). This is one of the reasons why top-wound Gramm oscillators have become obsolete.
The patent shows a method for creating an alternating magnetic field in a magnetic circuit. Only the design of the magnetic chain itself is not shown, this is indicated in the patent.
Holcomb Energy Systems is already a more advanced solution for such a system.

Apart from Holcomb Energy Systems, there are other solutions for static converters. For the first time, only the practical operating model of Holcomb Energy Systems is presented. Others also exist but have not been shown publicly. There was another demonstration by Carl Tilly in the USA. But I did not find patents and information about the design system in the public domain. Carl Tilly was demonstrating an electric car, with his static converter. I don't think Carl Tilly's principle was different.

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On March 28, 2003, in the state of Tennessee, USA, 20 armed men confiscated all devices, documents and bank accounts of Tilly Foundation, Inc. So far, they have not returned anything or reimbursed the costs, said Carl Tilly, president and owner of the company. In order to protect the technology, just a week after the action, he had already begun building another electric car and two power sources for mansions. Now it's happening in another state. The latest electric car has been tested by several engineers and received a positive result.
https://tesla3.com/tilley-foundation/

PS  I'm also working on a pulse system that should keep the battery charged   https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/05/electric-solid-state-generator-tg.html
     
 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 05, 2022, 06:23:23 PM

 :D  Then why every transformer isn't OU?
Listen, everyone who graduated secondary school knows what permeability is and that ferromagnetic materials amplify weak magnetic field.
As soon as you want to utilise that amplified magnetic field and current is flowing in the output coil-Lenz law applies, and small current in the output coil is enough to create opposite amplified magnetic field counter reacting  amplified magnetic field created by inducing current from the input coil. It works both ways.


Cheers,
Pix


Yes Pix, you have everything correctly explained...plus, you've answered your own question about why there is no OU in any transformer.


Lenz Law...period.


I will try (again) to explain this...


In a Transformer, both Magnetic Fields (Primary-Secondary) are constrained to the same steel core, so they have no other choice but to react against each others, giving the results we all know.


Believe me about this...Once we get the Magnetic Field of the Primary (or Exciter/Inductor, for the Generator case), to Mutate (move, translate) in Space/Time through the steel cores, Lenz can not act, period...it just bounces back and forth*, but we will see almost no increase (like 1 or 2 tents of an Amp) on the Input Currents...


Lenz can not act against a massless, frictionless moving magnetic field through Space/Time.


I have done it, I have observed it...I am just making a better build.




So, briefly resuming this:


The output coils and core, whenever loaded, this Reacting Magnetic Field is constrained to its own core-coils...However, where the massless field is displacing through space/time is definitively NOT constrained to its own core-coils...and Lenz can not "catch it"...no matter how much "tantrum" in vibrations and jumping it does...
And...if this Magnetic Field, generated once we add a load,  can not act directly and against our moving Magnetic Field...then there is simply not increase at Input.




Cheers


*In my testing, the armature which has the moving magnetic field, will just bounce, since I left it loose on purpose, for a physical and sound demo...so, as soon as a load is applied to output coils, it increases the sound and vibrations...but no increase at Input.




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 05, 2022, 07:46:23 PM
This topic has already mentioned the guy's experiment with the rotation of the field in the stator gland from the engine, through the electromagnet control system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn49fDHCHdo

The secondary circuit for the output of the phase is organized through a coil wound on the core and inserted as a jumper. (А)
To do it right, the second block of the core with grooves and lay the wires according to the rules of generator phase winding. (В)


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 05, 2022, 07:52:25 PM
Yes Rakarski, that is Pierre Cotnoir...


Almost everyone knows him here... ;D
There is a Thread also here...which is abandoned now.


Same thing, different "color"...He is rotating the Field on the outside core (a typical stator) and collecting on the inside as the lonely core.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 03:40:58 PM

The secondary circuit for the output of the phase is organized through a coil wound on the core and inserted as a jumper. (А)
To do it right, the second block of the core with grooves and lay the wires according to the rules of generator phase winding. (В)


Yes, you are very correct Rakarskiy.
The best way to collect on this setup, is not "A" but "B" setup on the inside...that way it would be 360º sweep of exciter (Inductor) over the Induced .


However, still with a single coil, 700 ft of wire and a heavy core as (A), Pierre was able to loop his setup.


I have also have being doing it the "structural" correct way (B) since many years ago...see image


However, I was doing it wrong, by allowing Field to collapse during rotation...not good.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Lunkster on May 06, 2022, 04:30:11 PM
Hi everyone,

I have Been reading most of these posts about this new technology.
I am a hobbyist who writes books for hobbyists to read and experiment from those ideas.
So I am not up to the intellectual level as a lot of you.
But I have an idea.

What if a few people on this forum bought one of the first self-contained units and
performed all kinds of testing on it.  Would that not answer a lot of questions about the
operation and technological questions on how it works.

By doing this,  I am sure that there would be other ideas on how to improve on the technology.
These new improvements in themselves could be patentable, although I am an open source guy myself.

I believe that the more people get there hands dirty and build something, that faster OU products
will hit the market.

I truly like the idea of no moving parts in a generator.  This is the way to the future in my mind.

I am going to build a "Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator" from this forum.
There are other motionless generators of interest as well at this forum.

I have learned a lot from everyone's input and I hope some of you will take up the interest and purchase
one of Holcomb's self-contained generators and experiment with it and show the testing
results on this forum.

We are all benefitting from each other.
Thank you all for your inputs.

Jay Lunke known at Lunster 


 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ariovaldo on May 06, 2022, 05:06:10 PM

Yes, you are correct Rakarskiy.
The best way to collect on this setup, is not "A" but "B" setup on the inside...that way it would be 360º sweep of exciter (Inductor) over the Induced .


However, still with a single coil, 700 ft of wire and a heavy core as (A), Pierre was able to loop his setup.


I have also have being doing it the "structural" correct way (B) since many years ago...see image


However, I was doing it wrong, by allowing Field to collapse during rotation...not good.




Cheers




Ufopolitics


I have done something similar. Instead of just one coil inside, I put a wound-slotted rotor inside it. It didn't work, and I stopped everything. Also, I rewound a motor and tried 3 phases, 2 phases, and one phase.
I didn't shoot a video in the last one.
The video below is the first attempt


https://youtu.be/H6oAZi8Cc5I (https://youtu.be/H6oAZi8Cc5I)



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 05:26:23 PM

I have done something similar. Instead of just one coil inside, I put a wound-slotted rotor inside it. It didn't work, and I stopped everything. Also, I rewound a motor and tried 3 phases, 2 phases, and one phase.
I didn't shoot a video in the last one.
The video below is the first attempt


https://youtu.be/H6oAZi8Cc5I (https://youtu.be/H6oAZi8Cc5I)


Hello Ariovaldo,


Let me see if I understand correctly what you are doing on that video:


You are feeding (Input) with single phase AC 110-120V from your wall, plus a capacitor, the 3 phase motor stator, on just one phase, one set of coils...correct?


Then collecting on the center coil on iron...right?




Thanks




Ufopolitics



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 05:46:42 PM
But let me say this...


@ Ariovaldo: What I really love about your video, is what we have been discussing here before...when many here have insisted that AC will give Us the "rotary Field" that we need for this setup...and I say a big NOPE, it will NOT work at all.


Thanks Ariovaldo, you just have proven that plain AC will NOT work!!


...it is not that simple my friend...sorry, but you have just built a pretty "exotic" transforner there...


It is a Specific type of rotation involved, as it is a Specific type of winding involved to be successful...and yes, it is DC what we need, and NOT AC as the Inducing- Rotating- Field!!




Thanks again




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 06, 2022, 05:57:13 PM
Ufopolitics,  have a good time!

EMF in the core of the generator will appear only when the magnetic field changes. In mechanical generators, this change is provided by moving the pole with magnetic flux past the phase wire. In static systems, the movement of the field is carried out by switching electromagnets along the circuit, using a special control algorithm. In addition to all this, it is necessary to achieve a change in magnetic induction from a minimum to a maximum in both zones of the pole pair. In addition to the change itself, the placement geometry is also important so that the EMF moves in the generator coil housing. There are many nuances. Since the generator is wound, you still need to know how to do it right.
In option B, I did not specifically disclose the features, although the details should be obvious to the specialist as two times two.

The problem of a private researcher is the use of fittings from electric motors. For generation, it is necessary to select iron cores with the appropriate magnetic permeability and maximum magnetic induction. For excitation, provide for a larger number of turns, while the generator must tend to a smaller number of turns and a larger cross section. Good motor, bad alternator and good alternator, bad motor.

Для хорошего результата нужно заказывать нарезку железа, все что делают промышленно в готовом варианте это для электромоторов а там свои особенности.
https://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/H7505633035a14e269943cfea89f8fb58f.png
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 06:17:15 PM
Ufopolitics,  have a good time!


You too, have a good time, Rakarskiy!



EMF in the core of the generator will appear only when the magnetic field changes. In mechanical generators, this change is provided by moving the pole with magnetic flux past the phase wire. In static systems, the movement of the field is carried out by switching electromagnets along the circuit, using a special control algorithm.


Correct, I agree...but, it is not just "switching coils", yes, a "special algorithm" must be used or it will not work...
There are many "rules" (as "no no's" involved)...like, never kill the dipole!! (remember that? and who said it?)...or the Main Field as the Inductor must never, ever collapse.
It is all about "Rotating the Virtual Magnetic Field through Space/Time at a certain speed"...by reversing -a minimum- of coils polarity which mutates the field into other parts of the main static rotor...


In addition to all this, it is necessary to achieve a change in magnetic induction from a minimum to a maximum in both zones of the pole pair. In addition to the change itself, the placement geometry is also important so that the EMF moves in the generator coil housing. There are many nuances. Since the generator is wound, you still need to know how to do it right.


Yes...




In option B, I did not specifically disclose the features, although the details should be obvious to the specialist as two times two.

The problem of a private researcher is the use of fittings from electric motors. For generation, it is necessary to select iron cores with the appropriate magnetic permeability and maximum magnetic induction. For excitation, provide for a larger number of turns, while the generator must tend to a smaller number of turns and a larger cross section. Good motor, bad alternator and good alternator, bad motor.




Yes...

Для хорошего результата нужно заказывать нарезку железа, все что делают промышленно в готовом варианте это для электромоторов а там свои особенности.
https://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/H7505633035a14e269943cfea89f8fb58f.png (https://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/H7505633035a14e269943cfea89f8fb58f.png)


Miña ñet gavarit pá Rusky...LOL




Greetings






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 06:23:03 PM
Wow!!, I do love that structure Rakarskiy!!


Where can I buy it?


Cheers
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 06, 2022, 06:43:27 PM
https://ru.made-in-china.com/co_szjiarun/product_Rotor-Stator-of-Silicon-Sheet-Material_riurusneg.html

 ;)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ariovaldo on May 06, 2022, 06:54:08 PM

Hello Ariovaldo,


Let me see if I understand correctly what you are doing on that video:


You are feeding (Input) with single-phase AC 110-120V from your wall, plus a capacitor, the 3 phase motor stator, on just one phase, one set of coils...correct?


Then collecting on the center coil on iron.




Thanks




Ufopolitics


Yes. I have done so many other configurations, and nothing has worked as I thought.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 07:00:56 PM
https://ru.made-in-china.com/co_szjiarun/product_Rotor-Stator-of-Silicon-Sheet-Material_riurusneg.html (https://ru.made-in-china.com/co_szjiarun/product_Rotor-Stator-of-Silicon-Sheet-Material_riurusneg.html)

 ;)


Thanks,


But is it Laminated Steel?
Plus, the inner piece do not have openings?
It is sealed on the outer...


And then I have to buy 100 pieces?!!


Not planning to market this...hahahaha




Thanks anyways, it is good to know!!




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 06, 2022, 07:14:56 PM

Hello Ariovaldo,


Let me see if I understand correctly what you are doing on that video:


You are feeding (Input) with single phase AC 110-120V from your wall, plus a capacitor, the 3 phase motor stator, on just one phase, one set of coils...correct?


Then collecting on the center coil on iron...right?




Thanks




Ufopolitics


May be 2 options to get rotating magnetic field in 3 phase motor out of 1 phase supply:

1. Yes, you can feed 3 phase motor from 1 phase with use of capacitor to make a phase shift. Already tried this and it works. See attached.
2. I see also on the switchboard rack a driver. You can have driver feed from 1 phase and with 3 phase output. Very common for smaller motors.


Using only one set of coils on the stator and feeding it with 1 phase supply will not rotate magnetic field.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 06, 2022, 08:28:05 PM

May be 2 options to get rotating magnetic field in 3 phase motor out of 1 phase supply:

1. Yes, you can feed 3 phase motor from 1 phase with use of capacitor to make a phase shift. Already tried this and it works. See attached.
2. I see also on the switchboard rack a driver. You can have driver feed from 1 phase and with 3 phase output. Very common for smaller motors.


Using only one set of coils on the stator and feeding it with 1 phase supply will not rotate magnetic field.


Cheers,
Pix


It still...is not going to work either way with AC, whether single, two or three phase...
It is not going to work with these type of systems.
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ariovaldo on May 06, 2022, 09:00:00 PM

It still...is not going to work either way with AC, whether single, two or three phase...
It is not going to work with these type of systems.
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.




Cheers

Something like that.....



Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ariovaldo on May 06, 2022, 09:01:37 PM












https://youtu.be/nCReDKa6Fn8 (https://youtu.be/nCReDKa6Fn8)


I don't have time now, and I will return to these tests after retiring. ( 3 more years to go. Lol)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: marcosbk on May 06, 2022, 09:33:30 PM
Wow!!, I do love that structure Rakarskiy!!


Where can I buy it?


Cheers

i have made one from 2 different motors... checked rotor to fit in stator...testing soon
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: marcosbk on May 06, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
rotor fit inside old stator
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 06, 2022, 09:55:08 PM

It still...is not going to work either way with AC, whether single, two or three phase...
It is not going to work with these type of systems.
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.




Cheers




Ufopolitics


I was refering only to a YT movie with a guy putting a coil inside 3 phase motor stator, how he could run that stator from a 1 phase supply.
No comments to Holcomb .


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 06, 2022, 11:53:52 PM
...
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

You are wrong. I have, and others have, shown links and references showing a single constant magnitude flux field rotating in the air gap arising from 3-phase AC. All 3-phase induction motors, as well as other AC machines, use this. Every EE text book I've seen covers this theory and the lecturer covers it in class, as well as experiments required with electric machinery and power conversion labs.

If you got small and stood on the surface of the stationary rotor, you could not tell if the traveling magnetic field is coming from moving PMs, a moving electromagnet, a series of switched DC excited stationary coils, or a polyphase AC excited set of stationary coils.

The whole point here is that some believe that there exists a signature, or characteristic which differentiates the B field vector originating from a stationary source changing in magnitude and an identical B field vector originating from a constant magnitude field changing position relative to the sensor or conductor or charge. I don't think so, but I am very interested in experiment on the subject.

So please continue, but take note that you are a minority claiming polyphase AC can not produce a traveling flux field. You are flat out wrong.

In fact, would not the pulsing DC you feed to the coils actually constitute AC.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 07, 2022, 08:17:07 AM
The rotation of the field, or rather the change in the magnitude of the magnetic induction, with the replacement of the poles at a given point of the stator core, with a phase winding (for a generator in a gap, a groove).
There is a mechanical way, when a permanent beckon (DIPOLE) or a system of dipoles, rotates to the system of the annular stator core (with grooves).

There is a way to switch a group of magnets while simulating the movement of a physical magnet. (this is what the Armature does when the brushes rotate around the commutator, or electronic system, which radiates the work of the armature electromagnets).
https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-30378/
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Note
Invention of an electric generator without using mechanical force, since nothing moves, which produces the same effects of current dynamo-electric machines thanks to several fixed electromagnets, excited by a discontinuous or alternating current which creates an induction in the motionless induced circuit, placed within the magnetic fields of the excitatory electromagnets.

Barcelona, the 5th of September of 1902

Signed: Clemente Figuera and Pedro Blasberg

(*) Note of the translator: “sus polos” in spanish may be translated into english both as plural “their poles” (referring to the poles of two electromagnets) or as singular “its poles” (referring to the two poles of one electromagnet).

There is a way to smoothly change the current in the winding of an electromagnet. Own AC source or appropriate controller. The first such controller was patented by Clemente Figuera in a 1908 patent.

The issue of creating an alternating magnetic field with the corresponding magnetic induction in the gap (slot) of the stator core is a key task in creating a transgenerator. 



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 07, 2022, 08:25:49 AM

Thanks,

But is it Laminated Steel?
Plus, the inner piece do not have openings?
It is sealed on the outer...

And then I have to buy 100 pieces?!!

Cheers

Ufopolitics

https://portuguese.alibaba.com/p-detail/stator-685752878.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.512e595cORvI7s

Link to the first picture. Alas, I have not seen them for sale by the piece.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 07, 2022, 09:33:23 AM
Bistander
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You are wrong. I have, and others have, shown links and references showing a single constant magnitude flux field rotating in the air gap arising from 3-phase AC. All 3-phase induction motors, as well as other AC machines, use this. Every EE text book I've seen covers this theory and the lecturer covers it in class, as well as experiments required with electric machinery and power conversion labs.

It's a little problematic because the supposed rules seem to contradict themselves.

Either magnetic fields always form closed loops or they do not. So if we claim many individual fields can form a single rotating field then we must explain how many singular closed loops can become one larger loop without breaking any single loop in the process.

I tend to agree with the "most of this is nonsense" rule. There are no lines of force or loops, they are imaginary and based on an archaic form of notation. Thus there were never any lines or loops to break and in the right context we could see two fields merge or separate ergo rotate. In fact many FE inventors claimed there devices worked due to a phenomena they called flowing(Moray, Figuera, Schaugerger) or glowing(Schappeller) magnetism. Which makes perfect sense if anyone gave a damn what the real FE inventors actually thought or there perspective. We could easily equate flowing magnetism with the traveling magnetism/shaded pole effect and glowing magnetism with plasma/Birkeland currents.

So all this "science" would seem to be more about perspective and who can make something work rather than any individuals personal flavor of dogma. I mean, any fool can believe something... proving it is a different matter all together.

Regards
AC






Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on May 07, 2022, 02:02:16 PM
Solarlab did post some analysis work on HES (Holcomb Energy Systems)
At AllCanadian’s Topic below .
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98903;topicseen#msg98903 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98903;topicseen#msg98903)

This type analysis Seems a worthwhile perspective towards understanding … other plausible routes towards harvesting Energy In a unique or new way !

And of course… SolarLab’s work is open source FE effort!


Solarlab
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By taking the time and effort required to validate this technique could prove very worthwhile in the end to, hopefully, more than just a few FE/CE “expert “ tinkerers!
End quote !


No stone left unturned…


Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 07, 2022, 03:18:24 PM
Really, obvious things, it is necessary to prove?
Ask yourself how does a modern synchronous generator work, in which the windings are laid in closed slots? You will be surprised, but the Lorentz force does not work there, the reason for the EMF is magnetic induction, which changes with time.

A few theses from my book about such a system (I also calculate and design it), for the event "think with your brain"! (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/05/electric-solid-state-generator-tg.html)
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A change in the magnetic flux penetrating a closed circuit can occur for two reasons:
• the magnetic flux changes due to the movement of the circuit or its parts in a magnetic field constant in time. This is the case when the conductors, and with them the "free charge carriers", move in a magnetic field;
• The second reason for the change in the magnetic flux penetrating the circuit is the change in time of the magnetic field when the circuit is stationary. In this case, the occurrence of the induction EMF can no longer be explained by the action of the Lorentz force. The phenomenon of electromagnetic induction in fixed conductors, which occurs when the surrounding magnetic field changes, is also described by the Faraday formula.

Thus, the phenomena of induction in moving and stationary conductors proceed in the same way, but the physical cause of the occurrence of the inductive current turns out to be different in these two cases:
• in the case of moving conductors, the EMF of induction is due to the Lorentz force (I wonder with what fright);
• in the case of fixed conductors, the EMF of induction is a consequence of the action on free charges of a vortex electric field that occurs when the magnetic field changes.

Explanations for the occurrence of induction current:
• Current in the circuit can exist when external forces act on free charges. The work of these forces in moving a single positive charge along a closed loop is equal to the EMF. This means that when the number of magnetic lines changes through the surface bounded by the contour, an EMF appears in it, which is called the EMF of induction.
• Electrons in a stationary conductor can only be set in motion by an electric field. This electric field is generated by a time-varying magnetic field. It is called the vortex electric field. The concept of a vortex electric field was introduced into physics by the great English physicist J. Maxwell in 1861.

Never trust someone else's opinion, it can be erroneous or, even worse, obviously false. Check everything yourself, but for this you will have to study the subject that you want to evaluate.

Physics does not deny such a design! Physics gives a clear formulation on what principles such an installation can exist. Everything else is engineering.

Everyone, good personal discoveries, the knowledge that has already been discovered earlier!

My slide is about how the concepts in Figueira's patent have changed for public perception: a gap for laying a phase wire converted into a coil, with an external winding on the core, as a result, everything rests on the wall.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 07, 2022, 06:55:16 PM
You are wrong. I have, and others have, shown links and references showing a single constant magnitude flux field rotating in the air gap arising from 3-phase AC. All 3-phase induction motors, as well as other AC machines, use this. Every EE text book I've seen covers this theory and the lecturer covers it in class, as well as experiments required with electric machinery and power conversion labs.


I have never referred on my post that you've quoted above, to a "FLUX FIELD", but to a SINGULARLY ORIGINATED, MAIN MAGNETIC FIELD.

So, you are referring to the "end product" or the "result" from the sum of all individual fields which add up to configure a single flux field.

It should be very obvious to anyone "Skilled in the Arts"  ;D  that any given number of Magnetic Fields, generated by coils which are aligned in a circular-horizontally and spatially apart array, overlapped and then synchronized in a phase continuity, will ADD UP, SUM UP, to generate a "SINGLE, CONSTANT, FLUX FIELD" which simply follows that rotary pattern given, generated by a phase sequence, as simple as 1, 2 and 3...over time.

So please continue, but take note that you are a minority claiming polyphase AC can not produce a traveling flux field. You are flat out wrong.


Again Bistander, you are confusing a flux field generated by several coils aligned, and flashing alternated currents in a phase sequence, then summed up...with a single originated magnetic field, which is stationary, until I start driving it in a rotary fashion., by adding and substracting in an orderly sequential fashion.


Two Brushes are feeding a series-parallel circuit of coils, which generates a Singular Magnetic Field.


Apples versus Bananas Bistander...


And of course I will continue...get ready, if you are under stress medication, I highly recommend you do not miss a single dose... ;D ;D

In fact, would not the pulsing DC you feed to the coils actually constitute AC.
bi


It could...because coils keep reversing currents, however, have in mind these are groups of series-parallel coils, fed by a single (plus-minus) input...




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 07, 2022, 07:08:44 PM
@Rakarskiy


Clemente Figuera is a waste of time...I tried it in so many ways...all I observed was an increase in output amperage...but voltage kept being very low.


If you look again at the graphic you have posted last, see how much Figuera is investing on Inductors (exciters) to just a single coil sandwhiched in between.


This arrangement is not necesary, if he would have gone differently about his primary way to think about the way a generator works...insufficient thoughts.


Paraphrasing his thoughts:


Spanish original Language: "Si notamos como las espiras que generan el campo magnético de un generador funcionan, ellas se aproximan para luego alejarse..."


English: "If we notice how the coils that generate the magnetic field in a generator works, the magnetic field is approaching then leaving...approach, leave..."


This led him to reproduce that "effect"...which is not a fully rotational field...but simulates an approach (by increasing currents) and leaving (by decreasing currents), or "ramp up, ramp down"...and yes, obviously the field does that...but can not compare with a full rotary motion, which have the progression over time, plus the horizontally "passing by" of the magnetic field through the induced coils.


Figuera is simply about "amplifying" and "reducing" the Magnetic Field...if we look at what this effect does to the field spectrum, or the "imaginary lines of force" we could resume it is a very weak movement related to a translation analysis of the spectrum, like a full rotation would do.



Cheers



Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 07, 2022, 07:25:43 PM
Ufopolitics, the problem is in modeling the design of the generator.

I gave an example with the calculation of the magnetic induction of a toroidal coil on a ferromagnetic ring in an air frame.

If this ring of ferromagnetic material is made with a notch, at least 1 mm, the magnetic induction index will sharply change downwards.

There are many different nuances, I hope to finish my material soon and it will become available to everyone.



 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 07, 2022, 07:31:00 PM
Ufopolitics, the problem is in modeling the design of the generator.

I gave an example with the calculation of the magnetic induction of a toroidal coil on a ferromagnetic ring in an air frame.

If this ring of ferromagnetic material is made with a notch, at least 1 mm, the magnetic induction index will sharply change downwards.

There are many different nuances, I hope to finish my material soon and it will become available to everyone.


Yeah, I agree...a Toroid would be the BEST way to make a Generator...of these type of systems.


But Figuera never used a Toroidal Geometry for his inducing/induced coils!!...there are all kind of speculations, but nothing on paper on the Original 1908 Patent graphics!!


The round "thing" is just where the small motor rotate a single positive brush, where resistors are mounted...that is it.


Some say they were inductors...however the case was...it is all about reducing and amplifying currents to the exciting coils.


In my view, it is a lot of waste in heat on the overall performance of this machine.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 07, 2022, 07:44:10 PM
Ufopolitics!
This is a drawing from Figuère's first patent.
I clarified a little, and the 1908 patent is more of a convention for designating a controller system
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 07, 2022, 08:08:52 PM
Bistander
It's a little problematic because the supposed rules seem to contradict themselves.

Either magnetic fields always form closed loops or they do not. So if we claim many individual fields can form a single rotating field then we must explain how many singular closed loops can become one larger loop without breaking any single loop in the process.
...
Regards
AC

Hello AC,
I see no problem or contradiction. If you search (as I did in Google) for rotating magnetic field animation, you'll find hundreds of visual aids. And I also came across this proof.
https://www.yourelectricalguide.com/2017/07/rotating-magnetic-field-in-three-phase-induction-motor.html
It reminds me of that which the professor demonstrated back in the days of chalk and slate boards. Member pix posted a great simple animation a while back, in this thread I think, but I can't locate. If he sees this, please link to it again. Below is an image which I pulled from a video showing how lines in individual conservative fields can sum to single conservative field. Perhaps you can expand on your noted contradiction problem with an example or reference.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 07, 2022, 09:02:51 PM

I have never referred on my post that you've quoted above, to a "FLUX FIELD", but to a SINGULARLY ORIGINATED, MAIN MAGNETIC FIELD.
...
Ufopolitics

...
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
...
Cheers

Ufopolitics

Ufo,
Above is your quote to which I responded. You said "main field". Is it not a flux field? Are you not denying that 3-phase AC applied to the stator winding in an induction motor produces a rotating single main field? Isn't it a flux field to which you refer?

Let's just drop it.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 07, 2022, 09:33:45 PM
Ufo,
Above is your quote to which I responded. You said "main field". Is it not a flux field? Are you not denying that 3-phase AC applied to the stator winding in an induction motor produces a rotating single main field? Isn't it a flux field to which you refer?

Let's just drop it.
bi


Bistander,


I believe I have explained myself clearly about the difference, on my previous post.


It is not the same thing.


The results are NOT the same thing either.




But, yeah, you are right, let's drop it...






Ufopolitics

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 07, 2022, 10:59:39 PM
Bistander
Quote
I see no problem or contradiction. If you search (as I did in Google) for rotating magnetic field animation, you'll find hundreds of visual aids. And I also came across this proof.
https://www.yourelectricalguide.com/2017/07/rotating-magnetic-field-in-three-phase-induction-motor.html

I agree and my mind was wondering off on another tangent again, it was also 2am...

I'm still working on the flowing magnetism problem and it's a real mind bender. The problem relates to a lack of true field rotation because the magnetic field is a property of space separate from the source. It can expand/contract from the source and move with it but not rotate with it.

I'm still trying to produce a true field rotation but I haven't quite put all the pieces together yet.

Regards
AC



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 08, 2022, 08:57:31 AM
I found an interesting project, just on the topic of a static electric generator with a rotating electric field:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4qOE5XBbbk&t=12s 

Electronic control, movement of the poles of the magnetic field in the static core of the stator.
The placement of the outer and inner core with grooves is logically correct.
There is another core in the Holcomb system, the generator core is wound inside, between the switched magnetic circuits.

If you look at a rotor with two pairs of poles (four poles), you can see how the electromagnets should activate.

For the magnetic circuit: it must be remembered that the magnetic circuit (flux) can be folded and closed. In this case, Ohm's law for the magnetic circuit cannot be neglected.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 08, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
Ufopolitics!
This is a drawing from Figuère's first patent.
I clarified a little, and the 1908 patent is more of a convention for designating a controller system

I supplemented the drawing with a comparison of the Figuera generator of 1902, and the modern design of the four-pole generator design. But the electromagnets in the external and internal circuits must work synchronously.
Sincerely!
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: F6FLT on May 08, 2022, 11:50:17 AM
Hi Rakarskiy

I read with interest what you said about the Holcomb technology. You linked it to Figuera's patent, which seems relevant, but very worrying since after more than a century we do not have any machine working according to Figuera's plan today. So won't we have any with Holcomb in 2122 either?

The problem with Holcomb is that in his patent, the energy is claimed to come from electron spin. So by talking about spin, Holcomb is relying on academic science to justify the extra energy produced.

If one considers the academic science incorrect, then the explanation by the spin does not make sense, and only the demonstration of the extra-energy by facts that everyone can observe and reproduce, is indispensable.

If we consider academic science correct, then :
- the imputation of extra-energy to electron spin is not valid since its mathematical formalism forbids the creation of energy in a closed system.
- or the imputation of extra-energy to the electron spin is valid but then the spin is only an intermediary capturing energy from elsewhere, so that Holcomb's explanation is incomplete and the real source of energy remains unknown
- or Holcomb ignores the source of the extra-energy, he just observes it, and he provides a bogus explanation in order to justify the extra-energy and make it credible for patentability and investors.

But what I see everywhere about Holcomb are digressions on magnetic fields and their couplings, based on the known rules of electromagnetism, which in no case can give rise to extra-energy.

As with all claims of overunity, there is a need to check the facts first. The problem with Holcomb's machine is that it is already an industrial machine, without proof of concept, i.e. without a simple setup based on the underlying principle involved in the phenomenon.
What would that principle be? What could be the elementary setup that would demonstrate it, even if it only produces a few mW?


I think this is the main interesting question. What is your analysis?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Lunkster on May 08, 2022, 04:00:07 PM
Hello Again,

I have been researching Dr. Robert Holcomb's past activities and am finding it fascinating.
Not only has he had many patents but companies as well.
He has had legal battles over some of his patent rights which were battled out in court.
There are so many interesting twists and turns.
All of it would make a great motion picture that could be called

"The Life and Times of Dr. Robert Holcomb"

There are always two side of any story and that is why his life would make such a great story.
It is a great story whether these current inventions are a scam or for real.
It would be great if the story ending up in the air where you do not know the true answer
at the end of the movie.

Even though Dr. Robert Holcomb has had such an interesting life.  I have not seen any evidence
that his inventions in the past or present are a scam.  But that is just my opinion.

If someone knows someone in Hollywood, please get in contact with them.

Think of it this way,  Hollywood is a fast way to let the world to know what is going on in the OU
community.  By the time the movie came out,  we would already know if these current inventions are valid or not.

Either way,  his life is what Hollywood was made for.

Lunkster

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on May 08, 2022, 04:00:22 PM
...

I'm still working on the flowing magnetism problem and it's a real mind bender. The problem relates to a lack of true field rotation because the magnetic field is a property of space separate from the source. It can expand/contract from the source and move with it but not rotate with it.

I'm still trying to produce a true field rotation but I haven't quite put all the pieces together yet.

Regards
AC

There you have put your finger on the issue with the Figuera generator. Years ago when several of us, including Ufo, built different versions of it I came to the same conclusion. The field needs to actually move in space, not just expand and contract with varying coil intensities. I built a DC variac to eliminate the resistors but that didn’t make much difference either. It generated some current but not enough. It was still just expanding and contracting coil fields like a transformer.

I gotta hand it to Ufo, I think he has the right approach in this respect. He is actually rotating the field of an armature. Yes it’s still being done by increasing, decreasing, and changing polarity of the armature coils, but what ends up rotating is the field from the -iron- in the armature. That magnetic field never dies, it’s pulled around the armature by the coil fields, actually rotating, not just changing vectors.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

Regards
Cadman

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on May 08, 2022, 06:54:50 PM
Holcomb states in WO2010079422A9, that his cogeneration device may use switched DC, or three phase AC on its rotor coils.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 08, 2022, 07:25:53 PM





Hello All,


I have been testing an AC Blower Motor Stator (as is, OEM windings) with my newer 20 tooth, 16 coils rotary field armature...


The rotary Field works beautiful, however the induction motor stator wiring sucks...like Rakarsky said before..."A good Motor will make a bad Generator...and so on...a good Generator will be a bad motor..."


This windings are not suitable for generating right, too small gauge, so, higher resistance...plus it is not wound as a Generator is...


Unfortunately, my Generators Stators are greater in diameter than the armature is...


I get much higher voltage at output than input, but lower amps...this is too fine wire on stator, like 28 or 30 gauge, max is like 20 one winding.


The behavior of the Rotating Field is excellent, having in mind all the related spec's when driving these fields this way.


1- The higher the RPM's of the Field, the lower the Input Amperage goes...and viceversa
2- The running voltage of the field (Input) should always be greater than the amperage, in an average like 60V to 1.0+ Amp...




I will have to remove all windings off Stator Motor and rewind it with 14-16 gauge, plus the way it is wound for generators...


I will be posting detailed info about all this on my Thread:


Energy Generation by Moving the Virtual Field (https://overunity.com/19085/energy-generation-by-moving-mag-field-through-static-steel-core-copper-coils/)




Cheers






Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 08, 2022, 08:34:04 PM
Ufopolitics, the winding of the generator must be calculated. Everything is calculable, you need initial data. We take one turn in the generator winding and determine the optimal EMF. Then you need to calculate the phase of the generator, the number of turns and the cross section, but this has its own characteristics. Read my material about Ampere power, there are examples of how I calculated the generator. The problem of many, they do not know how the current strength is formed in the network. Sometimes qualified electrical engineers cannot answer the simple question of how the generator EMF differs from the mains voltage under load connected to the generator.

You are very close to the goal, it remains to deal a little with the generator winding and the rules for its calculation. You need to calculate according to the maximum allowable load. Not as much as you want, but as much as you can take.

https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/rezultirujushhaja_sila_ampera/3-1-0-146?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 08, 2022, 09:54:54 PM
@Rakarskiy,


Ufopolitics, The winding of the generator must be calculated. Everything is calculable, you need initial data. We take one turn in the generator winding and determine the optimal EMF. Then you need to calculate the phase of the generator, the number of turns and the cross section, but this has its own characteristics. Read my material about Ampere power, there are examples of how I calculated the generator. The problem of many, they do not know how the current strength is formed in the network. Sometimes qualified electrical engineers cannot answer the simple question of how the generator EMF differs from the mains voltage under load connected to the generator.

You are very close to the goal, it remains to deal a little with the generator winding and the rules for its calculation.

https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/rezultirujushhaja_sila_ampera/3-1-0-146?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://rakarskiy-narod-ru.translate.goog/publ/free_energy_systems/rezultirujushhaja_sila_ampera/3-1-0-146?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


Thanks, I know, Rakarskiy,


However, I have already wound some generators as existing number of turns or by wire length calculation...


I just want to "prove a concept"...I have already proven part on the small universal motor assembly from the RYOBY Tool...but not enough.


I know, as I am so freaking sure it will work!!


Calculations for winding from scratch a generator is whenever you need specific power output, or specific voltages and amperages...I am not being "picky" at this time, since it is just for a testing demo.


Rotating the Field at a normal speed, as being able to "see" the rotation strength while using the correct spec's related to V & A is already done...


I have a spanish friend on YouTube that have also being doing this testings, not successfully, because he is overkilling the drivers...too much power to drive just the brushes...we do NOT need that much...


However, He is using steel bars inserted in between stator-armature, because rotor is smaller than stator...and it works...so, I will be doing same thing on a 900 Watts Generator Stator I have...just to observe output.




Thanks for your counseling!!




Regards




Ufopolitics


EDIT: I had issues with internet...but I already started taking apart the piece of sht stator...LOL...What does not work...it needs to be replaced with the correct winding, shape form and right gauge...see image ;D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 09, 2022, 01:41:25 AM
It's also important to note that to my knowledge no credible FE device ever used lap windings as is found in almost all motor/generators today.

In this respect the devil is always in the details and most fail to produce the desired result because they have not reproduced the concept and layout claimed by the inventor. This is what many inventors claim to be "the spirit" of the invention relating to the effects, procedure and physical geometry/layout.

This may help, in any given patent I do not look for what is common to other technologies but what is different. How does the details and explanation of the device in question deviate from common practice?. Understand that we often have a picture in our head, a natural bias, based on our own experience which betrays us at every turn. We want to believe we understand what's going on but in fact we don't. Thus our premise should always relate to seeking new understanding and learning. Something new to us...

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." ― Mark Twain

As we can see from the Holcomb patents and countless others which came before it there may be groups of coils but they are generally always switched sequentially, independently for a very good reason. My first experience with an experiment gone terribly wrong, but in a good way, was when I tried to explode the Hubbard patent. Not literally explode it but geometrically, I reduced the circular form of primary/secondary coils into a linear series of transformations similar to what Holcomb claims. In fact it still works and it doesn't need to be circular in form so long as the concept/process remains. In this respect I seem to keep proving myself wrong for reasons even I cannot understand, ergo learning something new.

So it seems to me many are barking up the wrong tree. 

If anyone is going to bother trying to replicate anything then it must be in the spirit of the invention. So when someone diverges from the intent, procedure, sequence, layout and geometry of the claim it will generally always fall short. It's never easy, nothing worth doing ever is so it's worth making an effort to do it right.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a complete screw up but as they say ... every dog has it's day.

Regards
AC



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 09, 2022, 08:38:44 AM
one power,
 I want to note that you need to master the principle, and not blindly repeat the design from the patent. Dr. Holcomb dealt with magnetic fields in medicine. Devices in medicine generate fields within 1.5 Tesla. By the way, a static generator is easy to calculate. The whole problem is still in hardware solutions without complex software bindings. Vyge I gave a link to the guy who built a similar design. He neglected the main Ohm's Law for magnetic circuits, and engineering techniques for designing generators. Notice not motors, but generators. I can say with confidence that this is a big gap for many to correctly calculate the generator circuit.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 09, 2022, 09:30:03 AM
The problem relates to a lack of true field rotation because the magnetic field is a property of space separate from the source.
Therefore, we will never create it?  True rotating magnetic field?
There were guys ten years ago who experimented with the Marco Rodin's coil.
They clearly stated that there was an OU.
There, too, it seems there was a rotating toroidal field?
I made such a coil, for me it did not show any differences from a conventional inductor. :'(
True, the geometry was poorly observed there.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 09, 2022, 02:43:42 PM
It's also important to note that to my knowledge no credible FE device ever used lap windings as is found in almost all motor/generators today.

Yes, you are very right AC...

The overlapping or lap winding is used to "save room", or to fit more wires per square area (referring to motors) and for generator coils it is overlapped to reach a higher number of conductors to be induced by the rotary sweeping inductor area.

Actually, did you ALL know that the only wires that are Induced on any Two Part Rotary Generator, even the stationary rotor type, we are working on...
that only the Vertical wires are Induced?!

Yes, and I am referring to the Vertical wires in ALL Coils on the Stator, the ones parallel to the shaft, whether a real shaft or an imaginary one?

All the Horizontal, or diametrical wires in the coils are just there serving as "connectors"...but no induction is generated?

This fact sets all these machines, automatically, at 50% Induction Efficiency!!

Now, it is impossible to build a machine (from the mechanical Engineering point) where the Induction coils or Exciter circuit, travels within a "fully closed tunnel" where all the Induced coils are wound...a completely closed tunnel...where the Stator Output Coils would be on the outside...

How can you rotate "physically" an inner set of coils and their steel cores, that could travel within another hollow, but fully closed structure?

However, that would be the "perfect generator", a 100% efficient from the Induction percentage area calculation point of view...

The only way that this type of generator could be conceived, is by rotating a Virtual Magnetic Field, not physically, not including its coils and cores...

And the only "Geometry" which can give Us such characteristics is a Toroid...

And then, we would not need to do "lap windings", or overlap the coils, none of them...just to be continuously set, one after the other...in a full closed circular arrangement...


Can You guys "imagine" that?


And then, set it to work in your minds?


Regards


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 09, 2022, 04:55:31 PM
I was asked a question in a personal, I think my answer and comparison will be very interesting.

Holcomb has a patent for a solid state electromagnetic rotor for power generation.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7d/d1/d7/018fe4892a4d9e/US20190238011A1.pdf
Photo of the founders and the basis of the invention of the solid-state rotor.
https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Robert-and-Ellen.jpg


Listening to tales of spinning electrons is for media losers.

Take a conventional synchronous mechanical generator with electromagnetic excitation. Consider only the input excitation power and also the output power of a generator phase, such as a car. The maximum costs for excitation of the rotor electromagnet are: 5 Amperes * 12 Volts = 60 watts. Maximum phase power 1.5 kW. It remains only to solve the problem of a solid-state electromagnet that simulates the rotation of the field from the electromagnet. Let's say all this will take us 200 watts of power. The result of the COP will be 1.5/0.2=7.5. What is the conversion ratio without taking into account the mechanical force in a traditional generator, you can calculate yourself.
I hope I explained clearly. What is the magnetic permeability of electrical steel, and how it enhances the magnetic field, I gave an example in one of my posts in this thread.  https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg566511/#msg566511

The magnetic circuit, it is in its correct calculation that the secret of the entire project lies.

Sincerely yours, Rakarsky
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: hartiberlin on May 09, 2022, 10:16:44 PM
@Solarlab

why don´t you convert your Simulation output pics to MP4 Video files and post them on Youtube ?

For longer and looped display you could put several sequences in a loop and just add them to the MP4 Video file.

Then you can store all your magnet simulation files as animation on Youtube.
No need to go the GIF animation method which always needs bigger File size...and is hard to store
in a forum...

There are freeware software packages out there that lets you convert from GIF or JPEG pictures to MPEG4 Video files
which Youtube accepts.

Hope this helps. Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on May 10, 2022, 04:06:09 PM
“Solarlab” Has not been posting here ,
However I believe that may change..?
Or his work will find a path to interested parties here
And elsewhere!

Regardless,

At another topic this technology to assist in research is being shared


Solarlab
Quote
The analysis is being done using Ansys, Comsol, JMag and CST. As mentioned, and shown, CST is easiest since "Excitations" can be added at the "LT-Transient" phase without resorting to a "Circuit" layout to sequence the pole coil/windings.
End quote


As mentioned prior in this thread ,
additional HES discussion is here,
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98927;topicseen#msg98927 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98927;topicseen#msg98927)
(Above topic hosted by AllCanadian)


Goal is to figure a hosting method which will benefit all who wish to observe and explore this
Technology being shared by Solarlab !( **tech has huge hosting load on a forum venue ..
Looking for solutions!!)




And Solarlab is doing very specific analysis on Holcomb Energy Systems and has zero extra time
For managing a forum topic / discussion!
(Trying to figure a solution to assist him and benefit all !

Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 11, 2022, 10:45:18 AM
if the coil is moved past the magnet along one coordinate.
And at this time, the magnet is moved past the coil along a different, orthogonal coordinate.
We will no longer have a two-dimensional interaction, but a three-dimensional one.
Has anyone used this?  Might will be something interesting...
Just thoughts.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Lunkster on May 11, 2022, 06:43:58 PM
Suggested Upgrades for Holcomb motor systems:

Current system design deficiencies:
The physical design is for generators that are in motion.  This creates a lot of limitations for the motor.
1.)   The two stators have different dimensions due to the different circumference they are designed in.
2.)   The inner stator electromagnets have more interaction with the adjacent electromagnets due to the confined area they are built into.
3.)   The distance between the rotor and stator assemblies are not adjustable but fixed between each other.
4.)   It is hard to measure parameters in different locations between the rotor and stator assembly due to the physical construction of the generator.
5.)   It is harder to perform maintenance or make changes to the rotor or inner stator assembly on this design.

Upgrade physical design of the stator and rotor assemblies:
3 Disk assembly:  Disk 1 stator 1, Disk 2 rotor, Disk 3 stator 2
1.)   Both stators have the option of being designed with the same physical configuration.
2.)   The interaction between inner stator components can be reduced with the disk configuration.
3.)   The distance between the rotor and each stator assembly is easily adjusted using disk assembly construction.
4.)   It is much easier to place probes into place between the stator and rotor assemblies.
5.)   It is much easier to perform maintenance or make modifications on a disk motor design.

Addressing the power and control system of the Holcomb energy system.
The computer control system has so many more options than the mechanical options shown so far.  Here is the reason why.
. It is important to be able to adjust the duty cycle along with the power cycle of the power to each coil.  This will make a big difference to the efficiency of the generator performance.
.When you look at efficiency curve of the core material being used in the motor.  It is important to operate the generator within the best operational portion of the curve.  I believe that by keeping all the stator coils with a small current in them to keep them at the lower best part of the curve as the off point is something to try.  Then with the coil needs to be switched ON, then the switching would raise that current level of the coil so that the core reaches its best gain portion of the curve could be had.
The other power timing that Holcomb has already called out should be used first for the testing of the prototype.

When I was talking about keeping in the range of the core efficiency and gain I was thinking about a core that does not flip its polarity during the operation of the generator.
Since a generator operates on changing flux in order to generate electrical energy, we do not have to flip the polarity in the core in order to do this. 
Instead of having to alternate between 4 north poles and 4 south poles for the 16 coils in each stator, we can alternate between low strength north poles to high strength north poles.  What this does is to keep the core from flipping polarity.
Now the low strength polarity could be done by the self-induced magnetism that would already exist in the core, or if we needed more strength in the core to be in the best part of the curve for the low north pole setting then we could either apply a small current to the power stator coil, or we could have a small or a few small week permanent magnets built into the cores used in the generator to give us that bias.
The changing strength of the stator coils would create a changing magnetic flux through the rotor coils in order to produce the electrical energy from the generator.  This would be done without the flipping magnetic polarity in the cores of the generator.
After watching the video on the crystallin structure flipping in the core material, I thought that this new approach may be what Dr. Robert Holcomb was talking about in his videos.
I have a question;  would switching the power to and from the stator coils at the power line instead of the return line reduce the back-EMF in the coils?

Jay Lunke  Known as Lunkster
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 12, 2022, 12:47:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDA8jMF3s5Y&t=25s
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Lunkster on May 13, 2022, 04:05:11 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am trying to get a better understanding of how the Holcomb generator can have a gain in the output coil when
the generator looks more like a transformer in its basic components.

The 16 sets of stator1, output coils, and stator 2 coils are intended to produce the 3 phase output signal
that is used in the industry today.  I get that.  So I believe that the OU should be able to
be demonstrated with one single set of Stator 1, output coil and stator 2 coils in the generator design.


 Does the air gap between the stators and the output coil have a critical function in producing OU
in Holcomb's generator design.  A permanent magnet has the same flux going into the magnet as the flux
leaving the magnet.   In the same way, the flux entering the drive coil is the same as the flux leaving the
drive coil.  Now since the output coil is wound tightly on the same core as the drive core, then the flux
entering and leaving the output coil has to be the same as the drive coil.  What happens to the output
coil when we put an air gap between the top and bottom of the output coil.  It will now allow another
flux path to occur through the output coil besides the drive coil flux.

With this air gap, will the drive coil flux flow through the output coil producing both an electrical current
and creating an magnet in the core of the output coil?  At this point power is being generated in the
output coil.  If the core is being changed into a magnet during this process, it then may generate even
electrical power in the output coil because the air gap provides an additional path for the additional flux
to flow in addition to the drive coils flux.

The power to the drive coil is now turned off.
The output coil's core is magnetized.  But it is decreasing in its strength.  It is this change in the
amount of flux flowing in the output coil that is generating electrical power in the generator
at this time.  So there is now power in the drive coil and the output coil is generating electrical energy
at this time.  The air gap is providing the path for this flux to flow.  It is not locked in a transformer core.

You have power in a pulse that is spent in a short duty cycle of the generators operation.
You have power generation in the output coil in a longer duty cycle while the core of the
output coil is turned into a magnet and then relaxes again all awhile the output coil is
generating electrical energy.

Now setting up an testing this simple configuration should be easy for someone to do.
If this works, then the 16 sets of stator1, output coil and stator 2's should work as well.

I would try to set up the experiment with a small flux bias in the primary coil as
I have already shared ideas in this thread on how to do it.

For those like me how like a sketch of what I have said, download the attached file.
The drawing shows one drive coil and one output coil because I think the Holcomb
generator can be reduced to this kind of a design configuration.

I hope I here from you about my idea's about this.  I have had some good
thoughts in the past along with a lot of bad ones.  So keep that in mind!

Lunkster
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 04:33:47 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am trying to get a better understanding of how the Holcomb generator can have a gain in the output coil when
the generator looks more like a transformer in its basic components.

The 16 sets of stator1, output coils, and stator 2 coils are intended to produce the 3 phase output signal
that is used in the industry today.  I get that.  So I believe that the OU should be able to
be demonstrated with one single set of Stator 1, output coil and stator 2 coils in the generator design.


Lunkster


Hello Lunkster,

If you are trying to understand this device, then leave aside all "conventional knowledge" about transformers...
This is NOT a "Typical" transformer...
Conventional Generators would -some how- help you better to understand how these devices work...well, sort of.

First, think of a Single Phase one...simple first.

Then Your mind set, would first need to "see" a Magnetic Field spinning within a Two Part Rotary Generator...forget about the coils and rotors spinning...just the magnetic field...and how it influences the Induction on the Stators...

Only then you would be ready to start thinking about these devices.

Regards

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 13, 2022, 04:37:54 PM
Lunkster, you make the same mistake as the replicators of Figuer's idea.
The winding must be in a gap (groove) inside the core
Let me remind you once again the evolution of Figuer's replicators' error as the gap between the magnets turned into a coil on the core.

WATCH SLIDE (https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEitAx2j175cbeBuCXC1obUPYev27uObq5MK-LypE-l49-tM-pXXNHgG42YfQfbkGo33lwSfIGKH2qnmCefO777TXGYuQGYvlgGbLlVPBqUyodLtu2CGKvgc37Po80MWwnuqV7LCHgDilsULNskztunwiuEFyudfygyl7ezbeVoyjSxFs0BWQYhkQrmk/w482-h446/2022-05-07_101739.jpg)

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 05:04:54 PM
Lunkster, you make the same mistake as the replicators of Figuer's idea.
The winding must be in a gap (groove) inside the core
Let me remind you once again the evolution of Figuer's replicators' error as the gap between the magnets turned into a coil on the core.

WATCH SLIDE (https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEitAx2j175cbeBuCXC1obUPYev27uObq5MK-LypE-l49-tM-pXXNHgG42YfQfbkGo33lwSfIGKH2qnmCefO777TXGYuQGYvlgGbLlVPBqUyodLtu2CGKvgc37Po80MWwnuqV7LCHgDilsULNskztunwiuEFyudfygyl7ezbeVoyjSxFs0BWQYhkQrmk/w482-h446/2022-05-07_101739.jpg)


@Rakarkiy,

Please, let me ask you a simple question...Have You replicated Figuera's Generator Successfully?

If so, could You please show your videos where you are doing it successfully?...showing it self powering itself?

Because I DO have tried myself to replicate Figuera's Device, many, many ways, for a very long time, all possibilities...

and I DO have the proof, for years...in You Tube Videos...


The winding must be in a gap (groove) inside the core...

Your assumption, will not make any difference, Rakarskiy...

if that would be the "secret" to a "successful" Figuera..., then show it working!!


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 05:10:12 PM



The Phrase of the day...

Quote
...It is "so easy" to write here, showing to be an "Authority" on any given subject...
But, without any, absolutely any proof...

Anyone could do that...I mean, literally anyone.

I could also make very complicated graphics...and beautifully elaborated...Plus Animated... ;D

which will mean ABSOLUTELY "nada", nothing, without THE REAL PROOF


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 13, 2022, 06:59:47 PM

@Rakarkiy,

Please, let me ask you a simple question...Have You replicated Figuera's Generator Successfully?

If so, could You please show your videos where you are doing it successfully?...showing it self powering itself?

Because I DO have tried myself to replicate Figuera's Device, many, many ways, for a very long time, all possibilities...

and I DO have the proof, for years...in You Tube Videos...

Your assumption, will not make any difference, Rakarskiy...

if that would be the "secret" to a "successful" Figuera..., then show it working!!


Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics, I don't want to prove anything to anyone. Don't like it, don't listen. My rule that everything we invent was invented by others is confirmed even in my case: by Figer, by Tesla, by many others, and now by Holcomb. I saw in Holcomb what I developed on my RAGEN - rotover without copying anyone. If you see, all questions will disappear.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 07:26:23 PM
Ufopolitics, I don't want to prove anything to anyone. Don't like it, don't listen.


 ;D ...


Rakarskiy, basically you wrote:

Quote
all other Replicators of Figuera failed because of NOT winding inside a core gap..."

It would obviously mean that "You got it right"...that "You did it right"...and successfully...

And it happens, that I was one of those "Failed Replicators of Figuera"...

so, I am asking you...could you please, Enlighten Us All, failures, miserable mortals, that could not get it right!!

LOL


Freaking funny as sh*t



Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 08:23:09 PM
Hi Rakarskiy

I read with interest what you said about the Holcomb technology. You linked it to Figuera's patent, which seems relevant, but very worrying since after more than a century we do not have any machine working according to Figuera's plan today. So won't we have any with Holcomb in 2122 either?

The problem with Holcomb is that in his patent, the energy is claimed to come from electron spin. So by talking about spin, Holcomb is relying on academic science to justify the extra energy produced.

If one considers the academic science incorrect, then the explanation by the spin does not make sense, and only the demonstration of the extra-energy by facts that everyone can observe and reproduce, is indispensable.

If we consider academic science correct, then :
- the imputation of extra-energy to electron spin is not valid since its mathematical formalism forbids the creation of energy in a closed system.
- or the imputation of extra-energy to the electron spin is valid but then the spin is only an intermediary capturing energy from elsewhere, so that Holcomb's explanation is incomplete and the real source of energy remains unknown
- or Holcomb ignores the source of the extra-energy, he just observes it, and he provides a bogus explanation in order to justify the extra-energy and make it credible for patentability and investors.

But what I see everywhere about Holcomb are digressions on magnetic fields and their couplings, based on the known rules of electromagnetism, which in no case can give rise to extra-energy.

As with all claims of overunity, there is a need to check the facts first. The problem with Holcomb's machine is that it is already an industrial machine, without proof of concept, i.e. without a simple setup based on the underlying principle involved in the phenomenon.
What would that principle be? What could be the elementary setup that would demonstrate it, even if it only produces a few mW?


I think this is the main interesting question. What is your analysis?


Excellent Post!!

How could I have missed it?

Figuera and Holcomb are completely different technologies...yes, both "move" the magnetic field itself (no cores, no coils movement)...and that is about the only thing in common they have.

1-Holcomb supposedly rotates field.
2-Figuera moves Field back and forth, by stepping up and down its currents by using resistors or inductors.


Regards


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 13, 2022, 08:46:13 PM

Excellent Post!!

How could I have missed it?

Figuera and Holcomb are completely different technologies...yes, both "move" the magnetic field itself (no cores, no coils movement)...and that is about the only thing in common they have.

1-Holcomb supposedly rotates field.
2-Figuera moves Field back and forth, by stepping up and down its currents by using resistors or inductors.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Technology in sight. Once again I want to note on the example of a synchronous electric generator for a car, with field excitation from an electromagnet. To obtain the appropriate electromotive force in the stator slots, the electromagnet creates a magnetic flux with a corresponding magnetic induction. Mechanical force is needed to rotate the resulting magnetic field from the rotor. The conductor and the stator are stationary, the magnetic saturation of different poles moves inside the stator. Thus, there is no evidence that mechanical energy is converted into EMF. EMF in phases is a magnetic flux that changes with time. The wire is inside the core.

The maximum excitation current of the electromagnet is 5A, with an on-board network voltage of 12V. The maximum excitation power is 72 watts. The maximum output power of the generator is 1500 watts. What does it mean that the electromagnet created the corresponding magnetic flux (magnetic induction) to form an EMF, as a result of which, when the circuit is closed to the load, we have a current for 1500 watts of power. Do you explain this by the mechanical force of the drive?

The whole problem is that all researchers (independent), before doing, skip the design stage by parameters. Do you know the dimensionality of the magnetic induction in the stator slot when the field is rotated by switching electromagnets in your armature?

https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html?view=flipcard&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp#!https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 13, 2022, 11:03:42 PM
Technology in sight. Once again I want to note on the example of a synchronous electric generator for a car, with field excitation from an electromagnet. To obtain the appropriate electromotive force in the stator slots, the electromagnet creates a magnetic flux with a corresponding magnetic induction. Mechanical force is needed to rotate the resulting magnetic field from the rotor. The conductor and the stator are stationary, the magnetic saturation of different poles moves inside the stator. Thus, there is no evidence that mechanical energy is converted into EMF. EMF in phases is a magnetic flux that changes with time. The wire is inside the core.

The maximum excitation current of the electromagnet is 5A, with an on-board network voltage of 12V. The maximum excitation power is 72 watts. The maximum output power of the generator is 1500 watts. What does it mean that the electromagnet created the corresponding magnetic flux (magnetic induction) to form an EMF, as a result of which, when the circuit is closed to the load, we have a current for 1500 watts of power. Do you explain this by the mechanical force of the drive?

The whole problem is that all researchers (independent), before doing, skip the design stage by parameters. Do you know the dimensionality of the magnetic induction in the stator slot when the field is rotated by switching electromagnets in your armature?

https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html?view=flipcard&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp#!https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html (https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html?view=flipcard&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp#!https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html)


@Rakarskiy,


The worst example about generation of Energy in a typical Rotary Generator...is to cite a "Car Alternator"...

These things require so much torque, that only being attached to a car Engine will function properly...

Besides its arrangement of the Exciter is a waste of flux galore!!

I mean, look at it again!!...the Field is Static, however Poles are REDIRECTED to each upper-lower Solid Steel Rotor with tooth design...

Even the shaft of the Alternator gets magnetized!!

If it produces 1500 Watts is due all about Amperage...it needs around 200  to even 600 Amps torefil the battery after a few attempts to start the car...just because the Starter Motor requires around that much!!

It only produces from 12-14V Max...the rest is amperage to reach the 1500W...

And by the way, post above was not directed to you, but the guy who posted it originally did ask you to "analyze" the Holcomb Design...

It is a waste!!...only good to keep the 12V battery charged...




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 13, 2022, 11:31:01 PM
Ufopolitics
Quote
The Phrase of the day...
Quote
It is "so easy" to write here, showing to be an "Authority" on any given subject...
But, without any, absolutely any proof...

This was always the case regarding everything we have not seen first hand or proven for ourselves. I would suspect the majority of everything we were taught or read on any subject is accepted on good faith.

It's obviously a slippery slope because we can be judged in the same way and measure we judge others. Thus I could discard all scientific knowledge I have not seen first hand proof of in the same way my work could be judged. Some could argue thousands of people have proven something over decades. However I don't know all of them, I have not seen any proof first hand so I can discard there beliefs using the same kind of reasoning they have.

So we should be clear any supposed authority anyone believes they may have is for the most part imaginary. We are free to believe whatever we want... as it should be.

The way forward is to make a compelling argument based on logic, reason and justification. The better we can justify something the more credibility it has and then it's up to the readers to decide.

Regards
AC




Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 14, 2022, 05:31:45 AM

@Rakarskiy,


The worst example about generation of Energy in a typical Rotary Generator...is to cite a "Car Alternator"...

These things require so much torque, that only being attached to a car Engine will function properly...

Besides its arrangement of the Exciter is a waste of flux galore!!

I mean, look at it again!!...the Field is Static, however Poles are REDIRECTED to each upper-lower Solid Steel Rotor with tooth design...

Even the shaft of the Alternator gets magnetized!!

If it produces 1500 Watts is due all about Amperage...it needs around 200  to even 600 Amps torefil the battery after a few attempts to start the car...just because the Starter Motor requires around that much!!

It only produces from 12-14V Max...the rest is amperage to reach the 1500W...
...
It is a waste!!...only good to keep the 12V battery charged...

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
The Lundell (claw rotor) alternator has served the automotive industry and market well over a long span of years. You, and others, often bad-mouth the common 12V alternator found under the hood of practically every car for decades and decades, and for some valid reasons, primarily due to the competitive industry beating every last penny out of it, sacrificing energy efficiency and other attributes which you deem important. But the reasons which you mentioned above are not valid.

The claw rotor topology appears to be your main gripe. It is commonly called a Lundell rotor, and considered an MPM (Modulated Pole Machine) or transverse flux machine. Modern versions of this topology are used to design some excellent efficiency and power dense motors and generators. And recently, past decade or two, the automotive alternator design has been rethought in terms of costs of materials and process so they would require no more "engine torque" than another type of generator of similar specifications.

Manufacturing tolerance and cheap materials may in fact contribute to flux leakage, but I don't think the shaft is magnetized, and even if it was, a non(or slowly) changing flux is not a loss mechanism, so what's the big deal? We already mentioned efficiency and size.

The alternator doesn't need "around 200  to even 600 Amps torefil the battery after a few attempts to start the car." It is limited to the rating of the alternator, like 60 or 90A and takes a while longer to recharge the battery.

And it isn't uncommon to see experimenters repurpose standard old car or truck alternators to put out 100+ volts.

It is far from a "waste". It was a tremendous improvement over the commutator generator which it replaced.

I hope you can't delete this post. But it is off topic, but a valid reply to the nonsense which you posted.
Regards,
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 14, 2022, 07:06:20 AM
Quote
And by the way, post above was not directed to you, but the guy who posted it originally did ask you to "analyze" the Holcomb Design...

Design? Everything is simple there, these are two generators in one product. If we consider the "hardware" with grooves for the winding of the generator, then we will see the groove outside and inside. There is such an analogy in the system of generators, see the slide. The question is whether the availability of information on the network prevents someone from getting it. I was looking for an axial similar design and found a direct analogy with electromechanical.
Everything else according to the traditional algorithm, friends. There are no secrets, the design is only an engineering solution. What is not indicated is the electrical steel materials used, with which the maximum magnetic induction is achieved.

https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/12/9/1761 For the engine, and why  "NO" for the generator. By the way, now I know what Figuera wanted to say in the 1908 patent. The system did not give, published but corrected, and everything came to a standstill. Holcomb came up with the only correct solution for such a design.

As for the car generator, in order to move one electromagnet relative to another, which is installed statically, overcoming their mutual attraction, mechanical force is needed. The cause of EMF is the magnetic flux of the rotor, which has its own power consumption. When compared with the output power of a generator, explain the reason for the transformation under the action of a mechanical driving force in order to overcome the magnetic blocking of the electromagnets. All this can be organized by the electromagnet current control system, or by a combined electromagnet on/off system.

The alternator in the car's on-board circuit powers the loads and recharges the battery. After starting the car engine, you can generally remove the battery from the circuit. The approximate peak value of the generator current is up to 100 amperes. If it is at a speed of 100 km / h, the cost of mechanical drive force will be less. than at 40 km/h. The excitation current is changed to form the corresponding EMF. The current is the resultant force of the vortex magnetic field from another opera. When designing a particular device, engineers take into account the performance of tasks in various conditions. Designing a car generator is quite difficult.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 14, 2022, 06:41:12 PM
Hi Ufo,
The Lundell (claw rotor) alternator has served the automotive industry and market well over a long span of years. You, and others, often bad-mouth the common 12V alternator found under the hood of practically every car for decades and decades, and for some valid reasons, primarily due to the competitive industry beating every last penny out of it, sacrificing energy efficiency and other attributes which you deem important. But the reasons which you mentioned above are not valid.

The claw rotor topology appears to be your main gripe. It is commonly called a Lundell rotor, and considered an MPM (Modulated Pole Machine) or transverse flux machine. Modern versions of this topology are used to design some excellent efficiency and power dense motors and generators. And recently, past decade or two, the automotive alternator design has been rethought in terms of costs of materials and process so they would require no more "engine torque" than another type of generator of similar specifications.

Not valid?...hahahahaha

A Car Alternator is designed to put out more Amperage than Voltage...is that a wrong statement?

A Car Alternator waste a lot of Magnetic Strenght due to the simple fact, known to everyone skilled in the Arts...and that is by using the "Claw" solid steel rotor, which redirects and fraction into "multiple poles" in a 90º (a portion) of the main magnetic strenght-volume of flux, which emanates specifically from both poles...and yes, of course main shaft gets most of this flux...that is the reason why, they have to build the rotor with such huge mass of steel on both claws caps, in order to ¨take away¨some more from the shaft...is this ¨not valid¨??!!

Manufacturing tolerance and cheap materials may in fact contribute to flux leakage, but I don't think the shaft is magnetized, and even if it was, a non(or slowly) changing flux is not a loss mechanism, so what's the big deal? We already mentioned efficiency and size.

The "big deal" or better called "bad efficiency" is precisely that...the way flux is redirected and angled at 90º and fractured into smaller, multiple poles...a waste.

If this design method would be ¨so efficient¨ then why it is not applied in ALL the High Voltage, High Amperage, Industrial and Home Generators?
Nope, ALL Rotary Generators Home and Industrial, use the DIRECT, STRAIGHT ANGLE, MAGNETIC POLE FACE TO STATOR FACE OPERATION, period!!
...Then I wonder why not using the Lundell "Design Technique"?... ;D

The alternator doesn't need "around 200  to even 600 Amps torefil the battery after a few attempts to start the car." It is limited to the rating of the alternator, like 60 or 90A and takes a while longer to recharge the battery.

What you have written above is SO WRONG, so NON SENSICAL!!...it just shows your TOTAL IGNORANCE on these fields.
just search, do your job...search online and you will see that Alternators for a typical 8 Cylinder car (not talking about a Toyota Corolla, or a Hyundai 4 Cylinders) REQUIRE FROM 170- 200 Amps!!

As a matter of fact, in order to get the right Battery for your car...besides the size to fit in the battery housing, the most important requirement to get the right battery is to know the right CRANKING AMPS...And "Cranking Amps" are NEVER, but NEVER RATED at 60-90 Amps!!

Cranking Amps starts at around 200A (for a very small vehicle, four cylinders)...and a Six Cylinders you are looking at 400-600 Cranking Amps.

And that is due to the other "Monster of Motor" utilized, to be able to Crank the Pistons with compression so the Farting Machines could start farting...the Starter Motor, which is also "designed" to consume so much Amperage to convert it in High Torque required to turn the Crankshaft.

After each successfull start (not failed) the battery amperage drops considerably, so the Alternator must refill it again during the drive...voltage-amperage regulator systems controls that operation.

Basically, after the start stage, during the vehicle normal operation, not so much amperage is required, except to run the AC Compressor Magnetic Clutch.
Ignition does not consume much, since it is operated thanks to Tesla design applied to the Ignition Coil, which utilizes low amperage and 12V to amplify into High Voltage to the spark plugs...and the rest are just the Electronics, the Entertainment System and Lights, etc,etc...

And it isn't uncommon to see experimenters repurpose standard old car or truck alternators to put out 100+ volts.

Same way it isn't uncommon to see experimenters use bicycle wheels as Generators... ;D

It is far from a "waste". It was a tremendous improvement over the commutator generator which it replaced.

From an ISOLATED point of view ANALYSIS (not looking at it as an accessory to the High Torque requirements of the Farting Machines) it is a bad design, a waste, just built to do what it must do...crank the high compressed pistons on every ICE.

I hope you can't delete this post. But it is off topic, but a valid reply to the nonsense which you posted.
Regards,
bi

Unfortunately, here I can not delete your post... I must admit that I love to do that...hahahaha

"A valid reply" to the nonsense I POSTED??!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Your point is just to find a spot to argue AGAINST whatever I write, no matter what it is about...

But it is OK...I am used to it....as a matter of fact, I find it very funny...


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 14, 2022, 07:56:36 PM
Not valid?...hahahahaha

A Car Alternator is designed to put out more Amperage than Voltage...is that a wrong statement?

A Car Alternator waste a lot of Magnetic Strenght due to the simple fact, known to everyone skilled in the Arts...and that is by using the "Claw" solid steel rotor, which redirects and fraction into "multiple poles" in a 90º (a portion) of the main magnetic strenght-volume of flux, which emanates specifically from both poles...and yes, of course main shaft gets most of this flux...that is the reason why, they have to build the rotor with such huge mass of steel on both claws caps, in order to ¨take away¨some more from the shaft...is this ¨not valid¨??!!

The "big deal" or better called "bad efficiency" is precisely that...the way flux is redirected and angled at 90º and fractured into smaller, multiple poles...a waste.

If this design method would be ¨so efficient¨ then why it is not applied in ALL the High Voltage, High Amperage, Industrial and Home Generators?
Nope, ALL Rotary Generators Home and Industrial, use the DIRECT, STRAIGHT ANGLE, MAGNETIC POLE FACE TO STATOR FACE OPERATION, period!!
...Then I wonder why not using the Lundell "Design Technique"?... ;D

What you have written above is SO WRONG, so NON SENSICAL!!...it just shows your TOTAL IGNORANCE on these fields.
just search, do your job...search online and you will see that Alternators for a typical 8 Cylinder car (not talking about a Toyota Corolla, or a Hyundai 4 Cylinders) REQUIRE FROM 170- 200 Amps!!

As a matter of fact, in order to get the right Battery for your car...besides the size to fit in the battery housing, the most important requirement to get the right battery is to know the right CRANKING AMPS...And "Cranking Amps" are NEVER, but NEVER RATED at 60-90 Amps!!

Cranking Amps starts at around 200A (for a very small vehicle, four cylinders)...and a Six Cylinders you are looking at 400-600 Cranking Amps.

And that is due to the other "Monster of Motor" utilized, to be able to Crank the Pistons with compression so the Farting Machines could start farting...the Starter Motor, which is also "designed" to consume so much Amperage to convert it in High Torque required to turn the Crankshaft.

After each successfull start (not failed) the battery amperage drops considerably, so the Alternator must refill it again during the drive...voltage-amperage regulator systems controls that operation.

Basically, after the start stage, during the vehicle normal operation, not so much amperage is required, except to run the AC Compressor Magnetic Clutch.
Ignition does not consume much, since it is operated thanks to Tesla design applied to the Ignition Coil, which utilizes low amperage and 12V to amplify into High Voltage to the spark plugs...and the rest are just the Electronics, the Entertainment System and Lights, etc,etc...

Same way it isn't uncommon to see experimenters use bicycle wheels as Generators... ;D

From an ISOLATED point of view ANALYSIS (not looking at it as an accessory to the High Torque requirements of the Farting Machines) it is a bad design, a waste, just built to do what it must do...crank the high compressed pistons on every ICE.

Unfortunately, here I can not delete your post... I must admit that I love to do that...hahahaha

"A valid reply" to the nonsense I POSTED??!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Your point is just to find a spot to argue AGAINST whatever I write, no matter what it is about...

But it is OK...I am used to it....as a matter of fact, I find it very funny...


Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
You say "A Car Alternator is designed to put out more Amperage than Voltage...is that a wrong statement?"
A wrong statement? I don't know. It is a stupid statement. More Amperage than Voltage?  Electric potential difference and current are quite different quantities with completely different units. What sense does it make to compare the numerical values of the two? Are you saying that the automotive alternator is a high current low voltage device? Then the answer needs qualification like "compared to what?" Compared to the cranking motor, then not particularly. Compared to the wiper motor, yes.

What I can tell from your reply is that you think it is inefficient, meaning wasteful of power (watts) to have magnetic flux 'bend' at 90° and divide into multiple paths. Tell us how much power in watts is used to redirect 0.5 Telsa 90° in the core of a transformer, or solenoid core, or Lundell rotor, or the loss, in watts, encountered using an E-I transformer core, or a 12-pole Lundell rotor. Tell us the power (watts) lost in a magnetized shaft of a machine when the flux therein is essentially constant. You'll find these are not loss mechanisms.

Tell us why you think the alternator must produce the current level that the cranking motor requires? Doesn't the battery load level and provide peak currents well in excess of that which is drawn from the alternator?

You have many misconceptions. You preach these and would block any objections or challenges when you can. I find this particularly distasteful.

I am just pointing out issues with that post from you. To the reader: Don't simply believe me, LOOK IT UP. Research the issues and use the "scientific knowledge" available at your fingertips.
bi

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 14, 2022, 08:39:32 PM
Hi Ufo,
You say "A Car Alternator is designed to put out more Amperage than Voltage...is that a wrong statement?"
A wrong statement? I don't know. It is a stupid statement. More Amperage than Voltage?  Electric potential difference and current are quite different quantities with completely different units. What sense does it make to compare the numerical values of the two? Are you saying that the automotive alternator is a high current low voltage device? Then the answer needs qualification like "compared to what?" Compared to the cranking motor, then not particularly. Compared to the wiper motor, yes.


You play "the stupid" whenever it is convenient...
I said Analyzing the Car Alternator as a sole Generating Unit.
"Compared to what?">>>Compared to a typical Industrial or Home Generator.(3PH, 2PH, 1PH)
Where the Voltage is always HIGHER than the Amperage.
Ampertage and Voltage are the TWO used Parameters to calculate Power (Watts)


Originally I posted my opinion to respond to Rakarskiy's post about his example analysis of the Car Alternator...
He was relating it and comparing it to this Topic, which is the Holcomb Generator.


But then you started your attack against whatever I wrote...


I am gonna have to opt to IGNORE YOU and all your replies to whatever I post.




Ufopolitics


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 14, 2022, 09:00:06 PM

The "big deal" or better called "bad efficiency" is precisely that...the way flux is redirected and angled at 90º and fractured into smaller, multiple poles...a waste.

If this design method would be ¨so efficient¨ then why it is not applied in ALL the High Voltage, High Amperage, Industrial and Home Generators?
Nope, ALL Rotary Generators Home and Industrial, use the DIRECT, STRAIGHT ANGLE, MAGNETIC POLE FACE TO STATOR FACE OPERATION, period!!
...Then I wonder why not using the Lundell "Design Technique"?... ;D
...
Ufopolitics

I think this paper explains the topology, bending flux and dividing paths, pretty well. Take a look at the diagrams, 20 of them I think. Adaptations of MPM, of Lundell (claws).

https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/14/21/7173/htm#

There are many factors which determine the design details for the application. Even with the rotten power efficiency of the old $5 Lundell car alternator, it was a marvel. I appreciate electric machinery for what it is and can be. You crap on it every chance you get. Why is that? You don't understand it. Where would you be without it? Cranking by hand to start your car, on horseback, or going nowhere?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 14, 2022, 09:24:41 PM

You play "the stupid" whenever it is convenient...
I said Analyzing the Car Alternator as a sole Generating Unit.
"Compared to what?">>>Compared to a typical Industrial or Home Generator.(3PH, 2PH, 1PH)
Where the Voltage is always HIGHER than the Amperage.
Ampertage and Voltage are the TWO used Parameters to calculate Power (Watts)


Originally I posted my opinion to respond to Rakarskiy's post about his example analysis of the Car Alternator...
He was relating it and comparing it to this Topic, which is the Holcomb Generator.


But then you started your attack against whatever I wrote...


I am gonna have to opt to IGNORE YOU and all your replies to whatever I post.

Ufopolitics

Ufo,
I use what you say, the words in you post. I know you were responding to the other member, but it wasn't a private message. I'm entitled to post my opinion. Which I do when I see misinformation and falsehoods. It is that which I attack, not you. In fact, I try to help you. But you're stubborn. Like 3 years ago, you start with moving main field in stationary steel and copper. And you still don't get it. 3-phase induction motor stator... Bingo...you got it. So go ahead, ignore me, delete me. Good luck.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 15, 2022, 08:54:47 AM
In vain you staged a controversy! Which shakes the topic, the wrong steppe.

Dr. Holcomb has a patent for a solid state rotor (this is essentially an analogue of an electromagnetic rotor for electromechanical machines).

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7d/d1/d7/018fe4892a4d9e/US20190238011A1.pdf

The text clearly states that this solid state rotor can be a replacement for the electromagnetic rotor in electromechanical generators.
Evolution slide (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/_fr/0/0689725.jpg)

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The example I gave, of an automotive alternator, shows the cost of driving an electromagnet and the result of phase power output
Unfortunately, such a simple example did not cause understanding of the technology.
I also provided a link to a section of physics that explains this difference.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2018/12/permanent-magnet-constant-device.html


It is this effect (intensification of the magnetic field, in electrical steel) that is used in all synchronous generators with electromagnetic excitation to create the corresponding magnetic induction in the wire zone in the core groove.

   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on May 15, 2022, 01:34:58 PM
Just to be clear.. Holcomb has several patent applications.


No patent has yet been granted on this device.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 15, 2022, 02:06:49 PM
Ufopolitics, I don't want to prove anything to anyone. Don't like it, don't listen. My rule that everything we invent was invented by others is confirmed even in my case: by Figer, by Tesla, by many others, and now by Holcomb. I saw in Holcomb what I developed on my RAGEN - rotover without copying anyone. If you see, all questions will disappear.
Very inefficient design.
Small effective area of coil loop, very short core, so many wires outside the core.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 15, 2022, 05:59:50 PM

Even with the rotten power efficiency of the old $5 Lundell car alternator, it was a marvel.
I appreciate electric machinery for what it is and can be. You crap on it every chance you get. Why is that? You don't understand it. Where would you be without it? Cranking by hand to start your car, on horseback, or going nowhere?
bi

The Electric Machinery Industry have been "serving" plus "contributing" for over 200+ years, to the enhancement, the sophistication, the development and progress of the Internal Combustion Engines (ICE)...or, simply, how I call them: "The Farting Machines".

And so, the Lundell Alternator, the Amp Hog of the Starter Motor are just a couple of examples...but there are tons...tons of Electrical Inventions that have been "devoted" just to satisfy the "demand" of the ICE...

We are on the 21st Century...and we are ALL, STILL, Worldwide, dependent of these farting machines, for EVERYTHING we attempt to do...transport to...Air, Sea and Ground are still dependent of these pieces of sh*t machines.

Electric Generators require the "muscle force" of the ICE to operate...

So, We are all still dependent of Oil...of "burning" fossil fuels...??!!

A brief resume of our History...and how everything started...to get screwed off

When Faraday demonstrated his first and simplest experiment* to show how magnetic field could generate electricity by "Induction"...then put together his Formula to cover its work...

BUT then came this "smart" guy, who by just adding a minus sign in front of Faraday's Equation, (-Faraday Law=Lenz Law) got his last name on it...WOW!!...that was so easy!!

The "Lenz Law"...Which is just the ancient, old "operation" to SEPARATE TWO MAGNETS in ATTRACTION...and the "required" force to do that "Operation"...Duh!!...How PATHETIC!!

Ever since, We have been bound, constrained and dependent to that "(-Law)"...without recognizing that we never needed it at all...

I just wish You, that You could see everything the way I do...and honestly, I do feel sorry that you can not...and so a majority all over.


Ufopolitics


*Do You Remember Faraday's first and simplest experiment-test?
Faraday's first experiment on electromagnetic induction (https://www.electrical4u.com/faraday-law-of-electromagnetic-induction/)
It was so simple!!:
Just introducing a bar magnet, magnetized along the length...inside a Coil, connected to a Galvanometer...that showed a positive gain.
Why did we ever had to take it out?...
Why not keep going into other coils?
Without ever having to reverse the primary operation?
      !¿...?!


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 15, 2022, 08:11:45 PM
The Electric Machinery Industry have been "serving" plus "contributing" for over 200+ years, to the enhancement, the sophistication, the development and progress of the Internal Combustion Engines (ICE)...or, simply, how I call them: "The Farting Machines".

And so, the Lundell Alternator, the Amp Hog of the Starter Motor are just a couple of examples...but there are tons...tons of Electrical Inventions that have been "devoted" just to satisfy the "demand" of the ICE...

We are on the 21st Century...and we are ALL, STILL, Worldwide, dependent of these farting machines, for EVERYTHING we attempt to do...transport to...Air, Sea and Ground are still dependent of these pieces of sh*t machines.

Electric Generators require the "muscle force" of the ICE to operate...

So, We are all still dependent of Oil...of "burning" fossil fuels...??!!

A brief resume of our History...and how everything started...to get screwed off

When Faraday demonstrated his first and simplest experiment* to show how magnetic field could generate electricity by "Induction"...then put together his Formula to cover its work...

BUT then came this "smart" guy, who by just adding a minus sign in front of Faraday's Equation, (-Faraday Law=Lenz Law) got his last name on it...WOW!!...that was so easy!!

The "Lenz Law"...Which is just the ancient, old "operation" to SEPARATE TWO MAGNETS in ATTRACTION...and the "required" force to do that "Operation"...Duh!!...How PATHETIC!!

Ever since, We have been bound, constrained and dependent to that "(-Law)"...without recognizing that we never needed it at all...

I just wish You, could see everything the way I do...and honestly, I do feel sorry that you can not...and so a majority all over.


Ufopolitics


*Do You Remember Faraday's first and simplest experiment-test?
It was so simple!!:
Just introducing a bar magnet, magnetized along the length...inside a Coil, connected to a Galvanometer...that showed a positive gain.
Why did we ever had to take it out?...
Why not keep going into other coils?
Without ever having to reverse the primary operation?
      !¿...?!

Ufo,
For a long time you've blamed electric machinery for mankind's dependency on fossil fuel and your farting apparatuses. Step back and see that Faraday and Lenz give us the path away from those monsters.

See everything as you do? Ignore the book of knowledge? I'll pass. I like Lenz. I like generated voltage (BEMF, or as you called it, the witch). Make light of the ease to add a minus sign to the equation. Or maybe be thankful there was a great mind to first realize how nature works, like Newton and his 3rd law.

You might actually make progress with your efforts if you'd stop spinning your wheels trying to reinvent the wheel. Use an existing method for step one and get on with step two where the mystery is. We have a great resource called scientific knowledge. Look it up. You'd be wise to use it.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 16, 2022, 10:23:46 AM
You can argue a lot, deny a lot, not believe and not understand.
The Holcomb Energy System (https://holcombenergysystems.com/) product, took place. Has patents, demonstration installations and, most importantly, already implemented projects with customers.
The fact that his authorities will begin to limit. does not raise any doubt. The only question is the dissemination of this technology in other energy companies and design bureaus. It is impossible to forbid, it is the same as to forbid the use of Faraday's Electromagnetic Induction.
It is safe to say that the era of solid-state electromagnetic generators of electric energy has begun, though with a delay of more than 100 years.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 20, 2022, 10:19:17 PM
Very good simulation. See OUR.com.....

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98980;topicseen#msg98980

Reply #142 by member solarlab.

I'm unable to post there. Wanted members here to see it. My comments:
1000AT  is far in excess of what could fit into a cell phone size case using copper.
Field (flux lines) will look significantly different when top half of magnetic circuit is in place.
I, for one, would like to be able to slow the sequence to visualize field shape, but not so important without complete core.
I hope member continues.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: ramset on May 21, 2022, 12:36:39 AM
Solarlab is now able to post here ( last week or so )
Also he can have a moderated board here for his amazing
Simulations.
Where he is sharing at OUR forum is a moderated board ( AllCanadian moderates there if needed)


I do believe Solarlab has very limited time to post all this info,
So it’s good to give links back to his work for now !
IMO the more eyes the better for this simulation
Perhaps others of like talent can also participate!


Respectfully
Chet K



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 21, 2022, 10:01:57 AM
The whole process of designing an electromagnetic solid-state generator, as well as a mechanical one, consists in the correct calculation of the magnetic circuit. If in a mechanical electric generator the initial magnetic flux of the rotor is “constant” and the calculated saturation level is reached at the corresponding magnetic induction, then in a solid-state rotor this process must be controlled. The effect of conditional constancy of magnetic saturation is achieved. switching of electromagnets according to a special algorithm. This is a property of parallel and series closure of the magnetic circuit, the subsequent closure of the magnetic circuit. A solid rotor is an element of a combination of parallel connection of electromagnets while maintaining a constant level of magnetic flux and level of magnetic induction.
In a closed inhomogeneous magnetic circuit, the magnetic flux is not uniform. If a design engineer does not know this, he has a fake diploma.

The subject of designing magnetic circuits is extremely complex. At times - two, in this direction it is difficult to understand. Magnetic induction is a non-linear function, it is the magnetic field itself. The magnetic induction is maximum when the magnetic permeability in the material where it is manifested is already minimal. There are a lot of interesting things there.

The Holcomb Energy System is absolutely real and cloneable. The design engineer should understand this. Believe me, a correctly set technical task, the result will be. Because I think that the ERA of solid-state electric generators has begun ..


Sincerely.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 21, 2022, 11:20:32 AM
I expect that with a non-linearly changing current in the inductance, which implies a parametric process, the graph should be something like this. But for this, I would like to talk with a person who could recommend a CAD system in which one could set a time-varying inductance

Any inductor with a ferromagnetic core will be non-linear in time, right?
The magnetic permeability of the material changes all the time from the current flowing in the coil.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 22, 2022, 02:37:23 PM
To solarlab PWM signal
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: stivep on May 23, 2022, 06:51:52 PM
In vain you staged a controversy! Which shakes the topic, the wrong steppe.
Dr. Holcomb has a patent for a solid state rotor (this is essentially an analogue of an electromagnetic rotor for electromechanical machines).
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7d/d1/d7/018fe4892a4d9e/US20190238011A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7d/d1/d7/018fe4892a4d9e/US20190238011A1.pdf)
Rakarskiy ,при всій повазі, це має бути хтось, хто є реалістичним тут.
 або, якщо бути точніше - той, хто дивиться на факти, а не на фантазії
«Сла́ва Украї́ні!»
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quoted by you link is not a patent is an application.- please correct me if I'm wrong.

In this link below there are only applications of that medical doctor who wants to be inventor in physics.
However there is one patent:
Derivatizing organometallic halides (https://patents.justia.com/patent/7238824) Patent number: 7238824
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-holcomb)


 Type: Grant   Filed: June 7, 2004   Date of Patent: July 3, 2007   Assignee:  Agilent Technologies, Inc. Inventor: Nelson Robert Holcomb
it is Grant probably because it was assigned to Agilent ( former Hewlett-Packard).
____________________________________________

In a few sentences can anyone explain to me :
1. what is the energy coming from - in Holcomb so-called invention?
2. what is the form of initial energy?
3. What that energy is changed to?
4. where is the gain and what is the nature of the gain of net energy if any?

so the bottom line is: I see some sort of medical doctor with his 2004  till 2010 patent applications
mostly abundant or rejected who changed the name
for the fresh one: HOLCOMB SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH LIMITED,
 Incorporated: 2017-02-23 and marked as inactive.
https://ie.globaldatabase.com/company/holcomb-scientific-research-limited (https://ie.globaldatabase.com/company/holcomb-scientific-research-limited)
Quote
The company began trading on 23 February 2017 and employs 4.
Patent application is not a patent yet - anyone of you can file patent application .
so now they have that, the only patent application the ever produced for that inactive entity
mentioned here by rakarskiy
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/holcomb-scientific-research-limited (https://patents.justia.com/assignee/holcomb-scientific-research-limited)
we may assume that trading was their source of money.

some criticism is expressed here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/6kk7aa/holcomb_scientific_research_llc_scam/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/6kk7aa/holcomb_scientific_research_llc_scam/)


____________________________________________
Conclusions:

all of the listed above, doesn't prove or disprove the concept.
However there is only concept and there is no patent at the present time for the device in question.
The so-called inventor, since 2004 didn't convince the general public and is in business of publicly trading
his own stock I assume.


 Wesley
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 23, 2022, 10:36:02 PM
stivep, check out this post here:

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg566716/#msg566716

and another patent that the guy is experimenting with

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8629588B2/en?oq=8%2c629%2c588

I hope you know what the letter "B" means at the end of the patent number.

I've never been interested in what's being pushed into the explanation of technology. I was interested in the very possibility of such a device. I understand how it works and make a clear case for workability. Womprs can Holcomb monopolize the technology? No, there is nothing that is unknown to science. It all comes down to good engineering design.
Magnetic amplification in electrical steel is one of the disciplines taught in educational institutions where electrical engineers are trained.
The magnetic field that is created in the body of the steel magnetic circuit already has its own potential, which induces an EMF in the phase conductor. This field is much larger than the magnetic induction from the winding of the excitation electromagnet, the permanent rotor electromagnet.
How Holcomb (more precisely, the team of engineers who worked on the device) solved the issue with the resistance of the fields, which already forms the phase winding under load, is not disclosed in the patent or in the explanations.  This does not mean that the device is not working.


The fact that they want to hide this technology for another .... the number of years is extremely clear. I won’t be surprised if Holcomb announces the unavailability of his devices and dives soon.


Україна переможе! Україна – це Русь. Росія це вигадана країна. Є такий наказ "Ванька, що не пам'ятає спорідненості".
Вони не вміють будувати, тільки грабувати і вбивати. Все добре, що можуть згадати в СРСР було за Брежнєва, а Брещнєв це українець із провінційного індустріального містечка возі міста Дніпро.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on May 24, 2022, 02:09:54 AM
A patent attorney just informed me that Dr. Holcomb's patent application of Aug 1, 2019, so often referenced in this thread, is now a granted US patent dated May 17, 2022, just 6 days ago. 

The US patent number is US 11,336,134 B2 and not yet showing up on the Google patent search.

The cover page art was swapped for one of the more recondite embodiments and there are some minor, non-material edits in the claims at the end.  But otherwise the granted patent is identical to the Aug 1, 2019 patent application in my review.



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 24, 2022, 08:42:27 AM
Consider one moment that explains the operation of both a mechanical electric generator and a solid state one. Rotor and stator made of electrical steel have relative magnetic permeability. This property refers to the magnetic resistance of the steel material to the electromagnetic field of the excitation coil (magnetic field strength). Magnetic induction refers to the magnetic field generated in steel. With the growth of the magnetic field, as an independent structure, under the action of electromagnetic, the magnetic resistance of the circuit grows, this property is explained precisely by the appearance in the core of its own magnetic field, which is many times greater than the magnetic induction of a coil without a core. This process is non-linear. It is this field that is the source that induces the EMF in any mechanical synchronous generator (a circuit from my book, with a graph of permeability and induction) or the considered solid-state electromagnetic generator.

Holcomb did not dissemble that electrical steel is the source of energy, but for some reason he did not indicate, that he used the property of electrical steel to amplify a magnetic field a certain number of times.

Everything else is an engineering solution or technology. The technology of controlling the magnetic field, which is excited in electrical steel, with its movement (rotation) in the generator stator, without mechanical force to rotate the rotor.

Думаю, вопрос о том, что является источником в Энергетической Системе Холкомба, закрыт. Действие его устройства заключается в преобразовании энергии первичной цепи в энергию, вторичной цепи - с увеличением выходной мощности, по отношению к входной.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 24, 2022, 09:57:57 AM


Holcomb did not dissemble that electrical steel is the source of energy, but for some reason he did not indicate, that he used the property of electrical steel to amplify a magnetic field a certain number of times.

Everything else is an engineering solution or technology. The technology of controlling the magnetic field, which is excited in electrical steel, with its movement (rotation) in the generator stator, without mechanical force to rotate the rotor.

Думаю, вопрос о том, что является источником в Энергетической Системе Холкомба, закрыт. Действие его устройства заключается в преобразовании энергии первичной цепи в энергию, вторичной цепи - с увеличением выходной мощности, по отношению к входной.


This is known by every secondary school pupil, attending physics lectures.  :)
Ferromagnetic materials do amplify magnetic field, of course. But it works both way. Once in output solenoid starts flowing a current, it creates opposite magnetic field that is amplified the same way, and opposes cause of change- magnetic field from primary coil.
Nonlinearity region of very soft ferromagnetic materials could be only used in setups like Current Transformer in flyback regime.
Only then you could harness ferromagnetic amplification.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 24, 2022, 10:46:43 AM
Hеllo Pix!
There is no counter field there, and this is the big lie of education. The field is strengthening, not opposing. To understand this, you need to check the polarity of the core to the magnetic pole at different distances. to distinguish what is primary and what is secondary in a given action. This was chewed up and used in his invention by Robert Adams. Do not confuse the magnetism of materials with the ampere force.
If there were counter flows in the core, the resultant would be zero. the electromagnetic moment would be zero or close to it. In fact, the flow is maximum. There is another position that is not considered in education, this is the mechanism for inducing EMF from an external field, and its interaction with the field of a conductor under current. So what every student knows is critically insufficient for the design of a solid-state and mechanical generator
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 24, 2022, 11:15:09 AM
Quote
like Current Transformer in flyback regime.
What it is?

з.ы. Please give me the electric circuit ESMD751L4TXA
There is nothing to eat, you understand? :)
I refused to repair TVs for fundamental, moral reasons.
With TVs, it was easier with documentation. Everything is familiar there.
It was the main source of income.
I'm do not asking for money. Usually everywhere they ask for money.
But I can make it  myself. ;)

p.s.
Quote
Unfortunately this drive has been discontinued for over 5 years and even parts are no longer available.
I would recommend replace with a newer product, see attached i550 cabinet series drive.
Well, I just asked for an electrical circuit diagram for repair, and they sent this... >:(
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 24, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Hеllo Pix!
There is no counter field there, and this is the big lie of education. The field is strengthening, not opposing. To understand this, you need to check the polarity of the core to the magnetic pole at different distances. to distinguish what is primary and what is secondary in a given action. This was chewed up and used in his invention by Robert Adams. Do not confuse the magnetism of materials with the ampere force.
If there were counter flows in the core, the resultant would be zero. the electromagnetic moment would be zero or close to it. In fact, the flow is maximum. There is another position that is not considered in education, this is the mechanism for inducing EMF from an external field, and its interaction with the field of a conductor under current. So what every student knows is critically insufficient for the design of a solid-state and mechanical generator


Then every transformer should be an OU device.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 24, 2022, 12:05:31 PM
What it is?



Current Transformer I see like a magnetic diode. B field from central conductor is amplified by ferromagnetic material of toroidal core. Current in the coil is prohibited to flow by diode, there is no magnetic counter field in the core
Once current flow in central conductor is stopped, amplified magnetic field in toroidal core collapses and induces bemf in the coil.
Very small B field from central conductor is enough to fully magnetize toroidal core.
There is no Lenz action back to central conductor (magnetizing circuit) from coil on the toroidal core.
In this way we harvest nonlinear region (amplification) of ferromagnetic material.


Cheers,
Pix


Edit. A small air gap in the toroidal core would be beneficial to store more magnetic energy. Could be also distributed.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 24, 2022, 12:08:59 PM

Then every transformer should be an OU device.

A transformer cannot be an OU, by definition of action - interturn mutual induction. The secondary winding interacts with the primary winding in the transformer according to the rules of current meshing between parallel wires. The magnetic field of the core cannot be the main transmitting source. An example is the use of a gap in the core, the magnetic induction of the core is sharply down, and the current in the transmission circuits is sharply up.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 24, 2022, 08:46:21 PM
A test.


Two U ferrite cores, 1primary coil 100 turns ,2 flat coils 10 turns.
All you get is a bad transformer.
Don't think rakarskiy concept is going to work.
You have to consider inductance and reactance.
Holcomb  has a way to reduce those.
Wonder if he is aware of that.
Someone that can figure it out?
Hint: look at the firing sequence he is using.

PICTURES in PDF
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 24, 2022, 10:00:09 PM
A test.


Two U ferrite cores, 1primary coil 100 turns ,2 flat coils 10 turns.
All you get is a bad transformer.
Don't think rakarskiy concept is going to work.
You have to consider inductance and reactance.
Holcomb  has a way to reduce those.
Wonder if he is aware of that.
Someone that can figure it out?
Hint: look at the firing sequence he is using.

PICTURES in PDF

Well done, gotta check it out. I am also working on the impulse system. But neither I nor you have a magnetic field in the core.
I have a yellow beam, this is the EMF in the groove. (1V = 1A) According to the calculations, it should be 0.35V. In this case, 0.02 V corresponds just to the magnetic induction of the coil without a core.
it turns out that there is no field in the kernel that needs to be obtained.
And the core is like a focused channel of the coil's magnetic induction. But it looks like I'm already close to figuring out how to ignite, this field in the impulse system.

In the systems of Holcomb and Park, Zhe Sun is not an impulse, but a permanent electromagnet with a caterpillar switching function, like a crawling caterpillar.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: phoneboy on May 24, 2022, 10:13:24 PM
A test.


Two U ferrite cores, 1primary coil 100 turns ,2 flat coils 10 turns.
All you get is a bad transformer.
Don't think rakarskiy concept is going to work.
You have to consider inductance and reactance.
Holcomb  has a way to reduce those.
Wonder if he is aware of that.
Someone that can figure it out?
Hint: look at the firing sequence he is using.

PICTURES in PDF
Agreed, similar output layout, check schematic and flux sim gifs.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: phoneboy on May 24, 2022, 10:50:34 PM
Sorry, could'nt upload sketchup file of array, too big.  The GIFs are animated, guess you have to download.  Lastly, that schematic is missing a ferrite rod after position 9.

Wayne.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 25, 2022, 09:08:46 AM
Quote
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/dlattach/attach/187288/
I understood. This is what is in many switching power supplies to protect against excess surge current. As part of the PWM controller.  And also in my frequency converters for asynchronous
 motors, for which you do not give me a diagram.  :)

Sorry, could'nt upload sketchup file of array, too big.  The GIFs are animated, guess you have to download.  Lastly, that schematic is missing a ferrite rod after position 9.

Wayne.
And what does rolamite have to do with it?
 :-\
Just like a contact switch?
I thought at first that there was a big intrigue hidden there ...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: seychelles on May 25, 2022, 10:31:37 AM
PHONEBOY I JUST LOVE YOUR PLAN. JUST BRILLIANT. I WISH YOU LUCK AND GREAT FORTUNE.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 25, 2022, 02:15:08 PM
Hello to All,


A new Member here (Beginners Mind) just send me this email, and ask me to post it since Member's post is still waiting on approval:


RE:
Quote

I attempted to post the following yesterday on the Holcomb thread, but having never posted before the post must be cleared by an administrator first.  Since it is unclear how long that may take I would like to share this with you in the hopes you will get the message out.  I'm sure you will agree it is important to those following this topic.


A patent attorney just informed me that Dr. Holcomb's patent application of Aug 1, 2019, so often referenced in this thread, is now a granted US patent dated May 17, 2022, just 6 days ago.

The US patent number is US 11,336,134 B2 and not yet showing up on the Google patent search.

The cover page art was swapped for one of the more recondite embodiments and there are some minor, non-material edits in the claims at the end.  But otherwise the granted patent is identical to the Aug 1, 2019 patent application in my review.


Regards to All


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 25, 2022, 03:42:33 PM
 Ufopolitics, good news!

Letter B, at the end of the patent number (US11336134B2) what exactly does it mean?
Does anyone know the rules for assigning numbers and categories?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on May 25, 2022, 05:00:54 PM

If the patent granted was against application US 2019 / 0238011 A1,
that application did not make a claim that it could power its self.
It also makes no specific claim for efficiency.
On this basis I could see why the USPTO would grant a patent.


L192
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: listener192 on May 25, 2022, 05:14:46 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11336134B2/en?oq=US+%2211336134%22+B2


B1: [/font][/size]Invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size] [/font][/size]
B2: Supplementary invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size]

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Cadman on May 25, 2022, 05:23:57 PM
Ufopolitics, good news!

Letter B, at the end of the patent number (US11336134B2) what exactly does it mean?
Does anyone know the rules for assigning numbers and categories?

https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/support-centers/electronic-business-center/kind-codes-included-uspto-patent

 B2      Patent      Having a previously published pre-grant publication and available March 2001

C1, C2, C3       Reexamination Certificate        Previously used codes B1 and B2 are now used for granted Patents
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 25, 2022, 06:00:41 PM
If the patent granted was against application US 2019 / 0238011 A1,
that application did not make a claim that it could power its self.
It also makes no specific claim for efficiency.
On this basis I could see why the USPTO would grant a patent.


L192

Thanks.
In a nutshell, what is it good for? Usefulness?
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: phoneboy on May 26, 2022, 02:48:16 AM
I understood. This is what is in many switching power supplies to protect against excess surge current. As part of the PWM controller.  And also in my frequency converters for asynchronous
 motors, for which you do not give me a diagram.  :)
And what does rolamite have to do with it?
 :-\
Just like a contact switch?
I thought at first that there was a big intrigue hidden there ...

A rolamite has nothing to do with the holcomb device it was just an idea for a low friction sparkless mechanical switch with regards to the figueroa device.
The reason I posted was because I see some possible correlatipns between the two methods, the moving field and "A unique method of harnessing energy from the magnetic domains found in ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials"
In the drawing you have two closed magnetic circuits.  If you were to map out the fields in the inductor array based on input to the individual switch positions you see how the fields break into two loops between positions 2-8.  All that was covered long ago.  The reason for the ferrite rods is due to that. The ferrite gets magnetized for free aligning its domains and then this stray field that magnetizes it moves on as the switch position changes. Now, what happens to this piece or ferrite as its field collapses in this closed magnetic circuit?  Essentially, I think if the these devices are overunity its due to heat.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 26, 2022, 06:48:01 AM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11336134B2/en?oq=US+%2211336134%22+B2


B1: [/font][/size]Invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size] [/font][/size]
B2: Supplementary invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size]

Thank you!  "re-publication after EXPERTISE!" it remains to be understood what list of measures is included in the examination when a patent application is granted or denied.

Nice illustration of the same Holcomb patent "Solid State Rotor" under different editions.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190238011A1/en?oq=US+"11336134"+B2
I dare to suggest that there is such an item in the EXPERTISE - "research of the current model".
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 26, 2022, 08:19:42 AM
  Essentially, I think if the these devices are overunity its due to heat.
I thought about it. If we catch the cooling phase of the ferromagnetic material and use external thermal energy. But, unfortunately, the speed of electrical processes is too fast, and thermal inertia
is too slow. This is a technological contradiction.

p.s. Rolamite itself is a unique device. :)
So I fantasize about creating an electrical analogue of it.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 26, 2022, 09:38:24 AM


Another story of the solid state generator, the principle of the same switching is different. Changing places of terms in a traditional commutator machine.

Patent *US8629588B2 (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/e0/85/a3/3203853ab72c52/US8629588.pdf) , Inventor Park Zhe Sun,
"A device for generating AC power by a DC power brush rotating with a field pole generator, and a device for generating DC power"

(cunning name can be just SOLID STATE GENERATOR)

peculiarities
2010-07-08 Application filed by Jae Song Park
2012-05-10 Publication US20120113697A1  (Three years after application)
2014-01-14 The application is satisfied* (the letter B at the end of the patent indicates that an examination has been carried out)
2014-01-14 Publication US8629588B2 (Four years after publication, and seven years after application)
Status Active until 2030-12-17
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 26, 2022, 12:17:20 PM
I still can't see a difference between Holcomb "non mechanical rotation generator"  and  AC slip ring motor with locked rotor.  ;D
Apart from complexity....


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 26, 2022, 01:06:39 PM
I still can't see a difference between Holcomb "non mechanical rotation generator"  and  AC slip ring motor with locked rotor.  ;D
Apart from complexity....

Cheers,
Pix

Or with an AC motor with a phase rotor.
In Ukraine, by the way, they immediately suggested using the installation of an AC motor with a phase rotor, fixing the rotor to counteract rotation, as a variant of a static converter. I don't know if the author implemented the idea.
If it is possible to excite a rotating field in a fixed phase rotor, it must be taken into account that the supplied excitation energy will be many times less.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 26, 2022, 09:33:11 PM
Mr. Radarkskiy,
What is a "phase rotor"?
bi

Mr. Pix,
I agree. I think most do not realize, not comprehend or just don't believe the rotating magnetic field (commonly referred to as RMF) found in the 3-phase machines.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 26, 2022, 11:47:10 PM
Mr. Radarkskiy,
What is a "phase rotor"?
bi

Mr. Pix,
I agree. I think most do not realize, not comprehend or just don't believe the rotating magnetic field (commonly referred to as RMF) found in the 3-phase machines.
bi

https://youtu.be/JPn5Ou-N0b0
https://kiev.prom.ua/p1556480543-elektrodvigatel-faznym-rotorom.html
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 27, 2022, 03:28:42 AM
bistander
Quote
I agree. I think most do not realize, not comprehend or just don't believe the rotating magnetic field (commonly referred to as RMF) found in the 3-phase machines.

This reminds me of populism and a nursery rhyme called "Humpty Dumpty". In every book they show Humpty as an egg which supposedly falls off a wall.
In fact an egg has nothing to do with the real story and Humpty Dumpty was an English cannon, lol.
The English were being bombarded in a fortification and there cannon called humpty dumpty fell off the wall it was mounted on and could not be put back together again.

The popular story of a rotating magnetic field is similar. It's not a real field rotation because a magnetic field cannot rotate.
In fact, it's a progressively switched(Sine Wave) field which uses flux linkage to emulate a field rotation.
As one magnetic field/coil forward expands another magnetic field/coil behind collapses.
The flux linking between coils, links them, appearing as a single field when if fact it is switched.

The first clue should have been the term AC or alternating current. Logically a field cannot truly rotate when it ceases to exist in between an alternation/reversal.
The field expands(N) then contracts to zero then expands in an opposite polarity(S) then contracts to zero and repeats this cycle.
So we should be clear this expansion/contraction/flux linking may appear to be a rotation just as blinking christmas lights appear to move in a linear fashion however it is not a true field rotation... it's an illusion.

In my opinion it is these kinds of false beliefs,ie. field rotation, which hinders a persons ability to learn.
It's simply not true and cannot be justified with any real facts or justification.

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 27, 2022, 03:33:26 AM
So "phase rotor" means a slip ring induction motor in your vocabulary?
Thanks,
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 27, 2022, 03:58:47 AM
bistander
This reminds me of populism and a nursery rhyme called "Humpty Dumpty". In every book they show Humpty as an egg which supposedly falls off a wall.
In fact an egg has nothing to do with the real story and Humpty Dumpty was an English cannon, lol.
The English were being bombarded in a fortification and there cannon called humpty dumpty fell off the wall it was mounted on and could not be put back together again.

The popular story of a rotating magnetic field is similar. It's not a real field rotation because a magnetic field cannot rotate.
In fact, it's a progressively switched(Sine Wave) field which uses flux linkage to emulate a field rotation.
As one magnetic field/coil forward expands another magnetic field/coil behind collapses.
The flux linking between coils, links them, appearing as a single field when if fact it is switched.

The first clue should have been the term AC or alternating current. Logically a field cannot truly rotate when it ceases to exist in between an alternation/reversal.
The field expands(N) then contracts to zero then expands in an opposite polarity(S) then contracts to zero and repeats this cycle.
So we should be clear this expansion/contraction/flux linking may appear to be a rotation just as blinking christmas lights appear to move in a linear fashion however it is not a true field rotation... it's an illusion.

In my opinion it is these kinds of false beliefs,ie. field rotation, which hinders a persons ability to learn.
It's simply not true and cannot be justified with any real facts or justification.

Regards
AC

Hi AC,
I disagree with you. But then we all can see things differently. Perhaps you missed it, but a few posts back I linked to the mathematical proof of the RMF. I'll see if I can find that and edit the link into this post for you.

https://www.yourelectricalguide.com/2017/07/rotating-magnetic-field-in-three-phase-induction-motor.html

But in short, it is the vector sum of the three H values from the three phase currents in the space and time of interest that results in an actual traveling flux wave or field.

I read with interest discussion between smudge and F6 about the deep nature of magnetism. I'm not prepared to go there. But I think that if it is possible that a magnetic field can "move", then 3-phase current applied to the stator winding can cause such movement.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 27, 2022, 07:15:26 AM
A simple paragraph from a physics textbook (on the attached slide).

and another one of the teaching materials for students:

Quote
The magnetic field of the stator, superimposed on the magnetic field of the rotor, can both weaken and strengthen it. The influence of the stator magnetic field on the rotor magnetic field is called the armature reaction. The armature response is different for different loads. In the case of an active load, the total magnetic flux of the generator increases slightly, and the generator EMF increases. In the case of an inductive load, the total magnetic flux of the generator is reduced.

Definitely two different fields magnetic fields of the rotor and stator in the generator..

Science calculates the dynamics of this field,
https://www.yourelectricalguide.com/2017/07/rotating-magnetic-field-in-three-phase-induction-motor.html

if an asynchronous motor can create induction in a rotor cage, why is it not possible, in a static iron instead of a rotor, with a generator winding?

Logic must be logical.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 27, 2022, 04:50:47 PM


The popular story of a rotating magnetic field is similar. It's not a real field rotation because a magnetic field cannot rotate.
In fact, it's a progressively switched(Sine Wave) field which uses flux linkage to emulate a field rotation.
As one magnetic field/coil forward expands another magnetic field/coil behind collapses.
The flux linking between coils, links them, appearing as a single field when if fact it is switched.


The way you put it sounds convincing...if it did not have some errors, technical, though...

First, yes, in alternating currents, yes, whether 1, 2, 3 phase it works exactly as you have written above...

But what Pierre Cotnoir was showing, what I have been showing, and what Holcomb is based on...is a totally different concept.

It is NOT just about turning "One Field/Coil" forward and collapse another "One Field/Coil" behind...Sorry, but it is not.

It is about a whole Field RESOLUTION, which is based on AS MANY COILS AS possible in the Configuration, which generates ONE SINGLE FIELD, generated by many coils in SERIES and PARALLEL. As a MAJORITY of Coils are ON during the Operation, and only a MINORITY of Coils keeps alternating on both sides of the main Field Polarities (Only Two, North-South).

Now, the fact that "A MAJORITY OF COILS" are ALWAYS ON during the whole switching process, that keeps "alive" a Main Field configured by all other coils.

And so, YES, that main Field actually "rotates" as a whole, not like Christmas lights do...that "applies" when comparing to AC Currents, which "flashes" ALL coils in a sequential way.

Can You Guys see the difference between both ways?

And so, Typical Alternated Current CAN NOT DO THAT, no matter if it is 1,2,3 Phase type.

As a matter of fact, you have helped me to use your explanation as how AC does it...thanks!



Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 27, 2022, 06:51:55 PM
I totally agree with Ufopolitics.
And that Main Field saturates the core so it behaves like a saturable reactor.
The  impedance decreases.


https://ia800202.us.archive.org/7/items/MagneticAmplifiers/MagneticAmplifiers_text.pdf (https://ia800202.us.archive.org/7/items/MagneticAmplifiers/MagneticAmplifiers_text.pdf)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 27, 2022, 07:24:33 PM
Friends, with the advent of magnetic induction, magnetic permeability actually disappears, this indicates only one thing, that there is a magnetic field. Ufopolitika correctly says, an independent magnetic field. This field is present in any synchronous generator. What you are trying to explain is related to the asynchronous generator
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 27, 2022, 08:51:10 PM
But, appreciate my creativity of thinking.  Sorry for offtopic.
Trying to find my scheme on a free energy forum that has nothing to do with my commercial affairs.
Because no one in this world hears anyone, and does not help.
But Jesus Christ said, seek and you will find, ask and it will be given to you.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 27, 2022, 10:03:29 PM
rakarskiy i don't understand what you talkin about .
Till you show me something real and working I stick to Holcomb.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 27, 2022, 10:58:39 PM
rakarskiy i don't understand what you talkin about .
Till you show me something real and working I stick to Holcomb.
The question is, how are you going to stick with Holcomb if you don't understand how a traditional synchronous generator works? I just sort out how the generator works, where it comes from. By the way, the stator field is calculated in all design bureaus. Magnetomotive force from phase wires. It is she who excites our desired miraculous field.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 28, 2022, 12:13:19 AM
Rakarskiy still describing TRADITONAL generators and transformers and thinking they are overunity
 nothing new there.
What ufopoitics describing is new and game changing.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: onepower on May 28, 2022, 03:04:06 AM
Rakarskiy
Quote
The question is, how are you going to stick with Holcomb if you don't understand how a traditional synchronous generator works? I just sort out how the generator works, where it comes from. By the way, the stator field is calculated in all design bureaus. Magnetomotive force from phase wires. It is she who excites our desired miraculous field.

It's problematic because while the switched coil/core rotor may act like a synchronous motor/generator and the inner multi pole switched coil stator may or may not this has little to do with the mechanism for gain. Holcomb states all that were presently debating is simply a precursor to something happening in the cores ie. extra electron spin alignment of the domains.

Has anyone actually built or tested anything?. Over a decade ago I was designing, building and testing my own AC motors and generators, synchronous, modified PWM H bridge, VFD, synchronous PM rotors, shaded pole, switched shaded pole, grid tied and island mode with static and variable capacitance phase correction. Been there done that first hand on my bench which is how I know many here are talking nonsense.

The fact is none of the stuff I have done in the past mentioned above gets anyone even remotely close to where Holcomb supposedly is today. Everyone and there dog has been down this road for the last 100 years and those skilled in the art understand it's a dead horse. As Nikola Tesla's best friend Mark Twain once remarked..."It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

Ergo, something has been missed, something fundamental to the process most overlooked was discovered by many of these FE inventors through countless hours of hands on experiments. Do you know how to succeed at FE?, I have done it many times, to actually discover something new we have to follow this procedure...
1)Think we know more than everyone else who came before us which is bs but build stuff to try to prove our claim anyways.
2)Fail miserably at every turn proving we know nothing but keep trying.
3)In time we may screw up and do something new by sheer accident which may lead to a new discovery.
4)Here we need the intelligence to understand we did screw up and something we didn't expect just happened.
5)If we can determine what happened then we can claim we knew it all along even if we had no idea how we actually did it.
6)Congratulations... your a FE inventor.

Regards
AC



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 28, 2022, 06:27:55 AM

Holcomb is building and testing working prototypes, Rakarskiy has nothing to show.
Still he is claiming his concept superior to Holcomb.
Rakarskiy 2000% vs Holcomb 750%.
Holcomb 1 Rakarskiy 0.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 28, 2022, 07:09:32 AM
In my video slides show the ratio of excitation power to the output power of a car alternator. The second slide, the assumption if you do the switching of electromagnets. This is an analysis, just of the Holcomb or patent system where the commutation is through Brushes and a collector. My project has not yet reached the goal, but I'm working on it.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 28, 2022, 07:15:25 AM
It seems that someone wants to nullify the disclosure of the principle of a solid-state generator system, with field rotation. Do not worry, I will make every effort, I have not yet told everything that has opened. A dynamically supported field appears in the system, it is rotated by a rotor, and not the rotating field itself, as they say in textbooks.
I will say more, this field induces itself, according to the principle, pass it on to another. Excitation is needed only for connection and rotation. Here with a twist and how to disassemble it, many, not only at a dead end, in complete prostration
A little hint, if you do not know how a classic synchronous generator works, with the winding laid in the core groove, you will never understand how the Holcomb Power System works.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 28, 2022, 08:23:59 AM
My project has not yet reached the goal, but I'm working on it.


Hope you get there, but still Holcomb 1 Rakarskiy 0.[/size]

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Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on May 28, 2022, 08:24:26 AM
Hope you get there, but still Holcomb 1 Rakarskiy 0.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 28, 2022, 08:52:43 AM
Hope you get there, but still Holcomb 1 Rakarskiy 0.

The first was Figuera in 1902 (Just because the rights and the demonstration unit are redeemed for 60 million pesetas (320 kg in gold equivalent).

Holcomb is not the first, trust me! Just look at the dates of the patents, solid state generators in fact.

About my rating:
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." Eleanor Roosevelt
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 28, 2022, 11:13:24 AM
Rakarskiy, help me rotation "крутилки Слободяна"
I am understanding,that it is just toy.
It gives no practice use.
But Holcomb's device is too hard to make for a loner.
And this will be the start.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 28, 2022, 11:36:21 AM
Rakarskiy, help me rotation "крутилки Слободяна"
I am understanding,that it is just toy.
It gives no practice use.
But Holcomb's device is too hard to make for a loner.
And this will be the start.

I no longer consider Andrey's devices, after his death, I made such a rule for myself. But I can say that they are no less complicated than the calculation of electronic control by turning the field in a solid-state rotor. The apparent simplicity is self-deception. It is more difficult to make a simple device. Moreover, Andrey himself said that his "twist" works on a barely manifested effect.
Holcomb is difficult in control (electronics and a program with power keys), and the generator circuit is calculated according to the rules for a synchronous generator.

The systems of Robert Holcomb or Park Jae-sung are the same synchronous generators that we know. The excitation system of the rotating field in the stator has been changed to the algorithm for switching electromagnets, according to the armature timing. 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on May 28, 2022, 12:44:40 PM
I no longer consider Andrey's devices, after his death, I made such a rule for myself. But I can say that they are no less complicated than the calculation of electronic control by turning the field in a solid-state rotor. The apparent simplicity is self-deception. It is more difficult to make a simple device. Moreover, Andrey himself said that his "twist" works on a barely manifested effect.
Holcomb is difficult in control (electronics and a program with power keys), and the generator circuit is calculated according to the rules for a synchronous generator.

The systems of Robert Holcomb or Park Jae-sung are the same synchronous generators that we know. The excitation system of the rotating field in the stator has been changed to the algorithm for switching electromagnets, according to the armature timing. 


AMEN!
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on May 28, 2022, 02:35:54 PM
But I can say that they are no less complicated than the calculation of electronic control by turning the field in a solid-state rotor.
Well, looking by the video clip, you can’t say that there is something complicated.
If this device rotates itself, you can move on from it.
But I'm trying to do it while there are no thoughts.
But you have explanation videos.
But  I not achieve sucsess still.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 28, 2022, 06:55:34 PM

A Brief summary...

We need to work more on our Developing and Research "Techniques"...As "enhancing" our "Powers of Deeper Analysis"...please, let me explain...

Yes, over the years we have being observing, reading, finding certain "anomalies" related to FE, and we have ignore them...or simply say "it was faked"..."a hoax"...
A very simple way to keep with the same B.S of Classic Sciences which have NOT delivered FE...and never will, unless We, as researchers, developers in the Private Sector...do it ourselves...

First thing that Clemente Figuera wrote, after succeding with his Patents back in 1908 was..."I never could have imagined it was so simple!!..."
Then Buforn tried to add "improvements" to Figuera Patent which was already working...and He screwed it off...

And yes, there has been "something" we all have been missing...to go deeper into it, to  study more and more..Magnetism, period!!

I mean, up to now, Science still have the ridiculous and rough,  "Iron shavings" as the only way to "visualize" a magnetic field...come on, please!!

After we all have Ferrofluids developed way back in time...after we all have Magnetic Viewing Film, after we have the Ferrocell  developed and patented by Tim Vanderelli, Books like Ken Wheeler "Uncovering the mysteries of Magnetism", awakening our ways to comprehend further on that beautiful Spectrum...

But we still invoke a few iron particles freely loose to "officially" understand how Magnetic Fields look like...Pathetic!!

What ufopoitics describing is new and game changing.

Thanks, Yes, this would be "game changing",definitively...beyond what ALL of You could ever imagine...beyond your wildest dreams...

I started playing with this tech a very long time ago...but, at that time, I was constrained (and may confess, also very stubborn) by the use of "Asymmetric Fields", and kept working for thousands of hours on the same, and only observing just a few "anomalies"...but nothing "galore"...so, I end up abandoning it...

Until I saw Pierre Cotnoir development, read his posts...and finally realized where my MAIN ERROR WAS...The "Secret"...which is already out  and spreading...
Then I finally understood almost everything, not only what I was doing wrong...but also allow me to understand all previous FE Technologies shown before...like Steven Marks TPU...like Don Smith's developments...like Kapanadze...etc,etc

Not collapsing the Main Field...but harvesting it, feeding it, while mutating only minimal small chunks to stimulate a movement...a Rotation.

Now, How successful and How far could you get??...equals how good You put it together...depends entirely on your building skills, the tools you own...and the effort you decide to waste on it...

However, I disagree that this Technology is...New?...sorry, but I do not think so:

That many "knew" way back about this tech but hid it, seize it?...Yes, definitively!!

Why?...

First, because it will reveal how wrong our Science have been for hundreds of years...when it could have been built such easily...effortlessly...and demonstrating that it could be done very long ago...The COP>1, Overunity, Motion Perpetual, etc,etc...

Second, and that I consider even more powerful...is that this technologies will also bring Us Antigravity...and time will tell...by simply altering in a certain way the molecules of steel and other alloys in a way never done before, counterways alignments of high speed traveling magnetic fields rotations...will eventually render a very light material, which will levitate...defying our "Gravitational Laws" plus breaking all the "specific weights tables for each material"...

Third and final (main reason for banning it)...By learning to "manipulate" the Magnetic Fields this way...we could eventually build very powerful EMP's (Electro-Magnetic Pulses) "Tools"...which could also end up in the making of powerful weapons...like the "Death Ray", developed and Patented by Tesla...way back, or as putting together a small and compact "Portable Venus Shooter"...

However, going back to our Analisys Powers...we are still "constrained"...in our way of thinking...a vivid example:

WHY in this World DO WE STILL NEED A "STATOR-ROTOR-STRUCTURE" (or simply put: a Two Part Generator) where the so called "Rotor" does NOT Rotate??!!...

I mean, this is really laughable at...¿¿ A "Stationary Rotor"...??...really?

I mean, seriously...Why do we still need a "Rotor" whole structure and configuration, surrounded by a "Stator" which does not rotate?...(thinking)... ;D 

And so...why do we need a "Shaft" for a  "Rotor" that does not rotate...lol??!!

Bad concepts of "definition" applied above...which keep Us within the same loop, circling over and over...and part of that loop eventually keeps Us going back to the "successful apparatuses" which generates electricity by physically rotating a rotor (doh!!)...when ACTUALLY, there is absolutely no relation between the two systems whatsoever...

Why keep constraining to a completely useless "Rotor with Shaft" within a "Stator" structure?...when we all could move to a Full Static All New Configuration, which grants way more room and "comfort" to all windings and cores we will build in a near future?

I mean, do not take me wrong, I see it as a way to "start" a development with "things" that we all have "on hand"...however, start thinking about getting rid of all these no longer required structures, in order to give more room to more efficient and better engineered developments  ...for God's sake!!

All above sounds a bit too crazy, right?...

Or maybe "too ahead of these times"...

Yes, indeed, so, do not take me "too seriously"...lol


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 28, 2022, 08:21:22 PM
Ufopolitics, good revelation!

Only the Holcomb Energy System, bears no resemblance to the Figuer solid-state design.

Figuera is an impulse system, just like in this patent https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf

I agree with you, the system will close these effective, simple technologies. They will change the energy as such.

Sincerely.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: stivep on May 28, 2022, 09:22:57 PM
https://youtu.be/mWLacgnA-ps?t=132 (https://youtu.be/mWLacgnA-ps?t=132)
 for these  for whom it  applies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5MMGZSi60Q
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5MMGZSi60Q)https://youtu.be/ELRTVTfOjis?t=68

 (https://youtu.be/ELRTVTfOjis?t=68)and this link from below is just for fun  only
https://youtu.be/K_N_h_mKf-4?t=705
Wesley
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on May 30, 2022, 09:02:09 PM
Happened across an excellent tutorial on RMF, Rotating Magnetic Field.

https://youtu.be/YYQayMrK4Fo

bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 31, 2022, 06:57:14 PM
Hello,


I am quoting here Lunkster's post, which "was" (now deleted) on my Building Thread...responding to my previous one here...


Ufopolitics


Hi

I like what you just said about what things could look like in the future with free energy!
They are similar to what most FE researchers are striving for.

I also see the new designs looking a lot different from the current ones.
In order to get more people interested in this new technology, replications
need to be generated and verified by third parties.

Also the amplification of electrical energy using industrial steel
needs to be demonstrated in its very basic simplest form.

What I mean in its simplest form is like when the function of
one of the following devices are explained;  FET,  Transistor, or photo cell.

After this happens, then many people will jump on board and will be
working on the bench with ways to improve and implement
this technology.

I am glad to see all the work that is currently being poured
into investigating this technology and we need a lot more people doing it.

After you get the full operating FE systems running we
will all be excited to see it in operation.

So thank you again for all the hours that is being worked on it to
bring this technology to the world!

Lunkster

P.S.
It would be nice if someone would start a thread with replicated FE
devices that have already completed third party verification on them.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on May 31, 2022, 07:45:33 PM
Happened across an excellent tutorial on RMF, Rotating Magnetic Field.

https://youtu.be/YYQayMrK4Fo (https://youtu.be/YYQayMrK4Fo)

bi

Thanks Bistander,

Indeed it is a great Tutorial!!...excellent animated graphics!!

So, I am guessing that now you do could establish the difference between what I have explained prior, versus these Three Field Phases set at different Angles?

Thks again, I really enjoyed the video!!

Regards

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on May 31, 2022, 08:25:33 PM
Some more information!

A very good video about the magnetic holder (from a guy from the city of Kharkov, Ukraine), or rather about what kind of field appears in an iron core when a wire is pulled through it with current.
A good and clear example of where the own field in the stator comes from when the phase is under load.

Sincerely, Rakarskiy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J912WdC7Od4&t=1692s
(video language russian)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 01, 2022, 04:24:39 AM
Thanks Bistander,

Indeed it is a great Tutorial!!...excellent animated graphics!!

So, I am guessing that now you do could establish the difference between what I have explained prior, versus these Three Field Phases set at different Angles?

Thks again, I really enjoyed the video!!

Regards

Ufopolitics

No, I don't know what you're talking about. Look again at this:
http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/spacevecmovie.html
We're talking about the magnetic flux density field B vector represented by the black arrow traveling around in circular motion (rotating) with constant magnitude. As you call them "Three Field Phases", I guess, or the phase currents or H vectors are represented by the blue, green and red arrows that change in magnitude but are at constant angles, meaning they pulsate and don't rotate. So it is this black vector, not the other three, that is the sum or resultant that compares to the rotating magnetic flux field of the wound rotating member which you strive to replace.

You could not distinguish any difference between the resultant field produced from balanced 3-phase stator winding as demonstrated in the video and a RMF from a wound rotor or PM rotating. The flux or magnetic field or main field has no signature or feature from the number or angle of phases. This can be clearly seen in the mathematical proof to which I linked.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 01, 2022, 03:01:35 PM
No, I don't know what you're talking about. Look again at this:
http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/spacevecmovie.html (http://www.ece.umn.edu/users/riaz/animations/spacevecmovie.html)
We're talking about the magnetic flux density field B vector represented by the black arrow traveling around in circular motion (rotating) with constant magnitude. As you call them "Three Field Phases", I guess, or the phase currents or H vectors are represented by the blue, green and red arrows that change in magnitude but are at constant angles, meaning they pulsate and don't rotate. So it is this black vector, not the other three, that is the sum or resultant that compares to the rotating magnetic flux field of the wound rotating member which you strive to replace.

OMG Bistander...for God's sake man!!

You keep repeating the resultant vector (B Field)...or the "magnetic flux density field"...
Flux=Flow...there is nothing "technical" about the word "flux"...it means "flow" or the emanation that a magnetic field, or several fields produces, generates...and it varies, depends upon many factors...we could vary that flow/flux according to field input...attenuate it or increase it...collapse it or maintain it constant.

Point is, flux is NOT a Field...it is the resultant "product" generated by the field.

In the case of the 3 phase, there are 3 Fields which generate 3 different flow/flux...but due to the space time situation, it's 3 flux coincides into a single flow. However, independently, each field dies/collapses, at certain timing, no matter if the next incoming field will "take over" the flux supply...and that is the difference!!

I was also collapsing the fields before, and there were not just three fields, but many, many more...and, as a matter of fact, due to the brush-element contacts, there were always a way to keep previous field "a bit alive" before full development of next one...however, it did not do the effect we are seeing here...and that you will also see very soon...

These Systems do not like "bumps" in their "resolution" over time, meaning, fields coming down, while another one rising...
In that graphic it looks so fine...referring to that resultant B Field, which looks very steady, and smoothly moving...but in reality it ain't doing so!!...there are "bumps" every time each field start going down, to then rise when the next is coming up...
And You know that perfectly well!!

It is similar to the "direct currents" obtained by a 4 bridge rectifier from AC...is it really a straight, smooth line without any interruptions?
NO IT IS NOT!!...it is a "bumpy" up-down curves...diodes just "cut" the down side of sinewaves, leaving the upper positive curves...not a straight line.

You could not distinguish any difference between the resultant field produced from balanced 3-phase stator winding as demonstrated in the video and a RMF from a wound rotor or PM rotating. The flux or magnetic field or main field has no signature or feature from the number or angle of phases. This can be clearly seen in the mathematical proof to which I linked.
bi

Of course I can see it very clearly, and it is the complete opposite of what we are looking for...this is just a three field setup, trying to unify into one, the spread angle is 120° between the three, which makes it a VERY LOW BELOW, DOWN, RESOLUTION FIELD.

And even in a Four Pole setup, it is still 90° angle diff, which is still huge.

In the arrangement I have, which is 8 pairs of coils, totaling 16 coils IS STILL a VERY LOW RESOLUTION FIELD, and we are talking 22.5°...even though it is being fed by real DC, not bumpy curves...However, the difference is that I am not collapsing the MAIN FIELD at any time.

It is either "you can not see" or "you do not want to see"...

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 01, 2022, 05:10:28 PM
... the difference is that I am not collapsing the MAIN FIELD at any time.
...

Then there is NO difference. The RMF resulting from balanced 3-phase currents applied to the stator windings does NOT collapse the MAIN FIELD at any time.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 01, 2022, 08:07:06 PM
Then there is NO difference. The RMF resulting from balanced 3-phase currents applied to the stator windings does NOT collapse the MAIN FIELD at any time.
bi

Bistander,

Collapsing of the Field is just one requirement...
The main requirement is having -at least- a decent field resolution...and 3 Fields/Phase would never do that.

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 01, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Bistander,

Collapsing of the Field is just one requirement...
The main requirement is having -at least- a decent field resolution...and 3 Fields/Phase would never do that.

Ufopolitics

It has a defined magnitude and direction at all points. That is perfect resolution. And it is one field, not three.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 01, 2022, 08:45:27 PM
It has a defined magnitude and direction at all points. That is perfect resolution. And it is one field, not three.
bi


Can you distinguish between a Parallel and a Series Circuit?
Can you distinguish between a FET and a typical Transistor?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 01, 2022, 09:20:10 PM

Can you distinguish between a Parallel and a Series Circuit?
Can you distinguish between a FET and a typical Transistor?

Ufo,
Sure, I can.

Here is link for RMF using animation which shows, and the explanation states, the case that I support.

https://engineeringtutorial.com/squirrel-cage-induction-motor-animation/amp/

"Three-phase sinusoidal balanced excitation in 3 stator phases produces a sinusoidally distributed field rotating at the excitation frequency ωs. This field can be viewed as being created by a single equivalent sinusoidal winding which is excited with dc current and which is also rotating."
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 02, 2022, 06:56:35 AM
bistander, for general perception, yes! can be compared with a constant field.

Quote
https://engineeringtutorial.com/squirrel-cage-induction-motor-animation/amp/

A DC voltage regulator can also be considered a direct current, but having fallen deep, we will see that these are pulses at a certain frequency.

The stator field in the generator is a complex process of excitations and displacements, which for the picture can also be taken as a constant field that rotates.

We need a variable field at a specific point in the stator.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 02, 2022, 03:28:44 PM
Ufo,
Sure, I can.

Here is link for RMF using animation which shows, and the explanation states, the case that I support.

https://engineeringtutorial.com/squirrel-cage-induction-motor-animation/amp/ (https://engineeringtutorial.com/squirrel-cage-induction-motor-animation/amp/)

"Three-phase sinusoidal balanced excitation in 3 stator phases produces a sinusoidally distributed field rotating at the excitation frequency ωs. This field can be viewed as being created by a single equivalent sinusoidal winding which is excited with dc current and which is also rotating."
bi


Bi,
Just let it go. It is not going to convince Holcomb believers.
They want to get rotation of magnetic poles in a very complicated way with switching multiple number of single coils? Ok, let them do.
Effect will be the same.
Sometimes people do like to overcomplicate things.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 02, 2022, 03:49:38 PM

Bi,
Just let it go. It is not going to convince Holcomb believers.
They want to get rotation of magnetic poles in a very complicated way with switching multiple number of single coils? Ok, let them do.
Effect will be the same.
Sometimes people do like to overcomplicate things.

Cheers,
Pix


So, let it be...and the "known" question then comes up...right?

Then why (juay-southern accent) don't we have overunity in any three phase motor or generator?...or even in a three phase transformer?

It's all so we fall in a looping vicious circle...it is same thang, 3phase is also a rotating field...so, it "should work", but it ain't...

And then the "final conclusion" (from the Skeptics, of course)...

"It don't work...overunity, not possible...bla,bla,bla...

So, Figuera was B.S., Pierre Cotnoir was a hoax...and Holcomb is a Scam just to get Investors...

How boring...really...

plus I really wonder what the F...K are all of these skeptics doing in a place called OVERUNITY.COM?


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 02, 2022, 05:27:49 PM
....
plus I really wonder what the F...K are all of these skeptics doing in a place called OVERUNITY.COM?


Ufopolitics

Ufo,
I can't speak for all skeptics, but for me:

To challenge falsehoods presented as fact.

To help (share knowledge and experience with) those (mostly younger) enthusiastically pursuing FE.

To learn.

And if a legitimate approach is identified, to replicate. 50 years looking and haven't seen it yet.

bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 02, 2022, 07:00:08 PM
Ufo,
I can't speak for all skeptics, but for me:

Great!!

You just "self classify" yourself as an skeptic...
Not that I did not know that you are, because of the years (in the making) that I know you...but it is good here for all others to know...


To challenge falsehoods presented as fact.

Negative, you are here basically to post your denials about anything that even shows a couple of volts or milliamps of overunity...that is "your last name"...bistander denial.

Your first response about Pierre Cotnoir...was that it is a hoax...and in one of your comments about his supercaps (believe it was in EF, not here) someone have to correct you, because you had voltages wrong of each Supercap, and so total bank voltage you "calculated" was wrong (2.7V ea)...

Your first opinion about Holcomb was to set "the doubts" about the test that verified his development...and then some more, and more...
And so I could write a book about all your critics...and denials.

Right now, you keep insisting that AC 3 phase generates a "rotating field"...same as the one I have shown...or Cotnoir...
Maybe no one will notice what is "behind" your apparently naïve counseling and opinion related to this...

But I do, I am very clear where are you coming from...and where you are going to...

It will "prove" to you (and all others backing you up)(the minute that everyone agrees it is the same thing) that it don't work as we claim...as Holcomb works, as Pierre Cotnoir presented on 3-4 videos, radical proof of his device working...and as I have and WILL DO...
So, good, you think killing 3 birds with just one bullet...really?


To help (share knowledge and experience with) those (mostly younger) enthusiastically pursuing FE.

TO HELP??!!
Please, give me a FUC...ING Brake!!

Yeah, to make sure all young people "enthusiasts" about FE...end up forgetting totally about it...
plus to keep forming "future soldiers" against anyone who claims O.U...

That is your job...as you are getting too old and need to prepare new generations...an Army...


To learn.

Learn what??!!

Learn better techniques to combat Free Energy?

In all years I know you...I have never. ever seen any models built by you, any "replications attempt" not even a single one...to prove "falsehoods" as you say...
So, you do it very comfortably...seating down and posting all searches online to deny...to argue.


And if a legitimate approach is identified, to replicate. 50 years looking and haven't seen it yet.

bi

That's B.S....But Oh well, then get ready...because I will show you not just "one"...but a few different "legitimate approaches"...

Then I wanna see your response(s)...as your approach...would it be "legitimate"?


You will be very busy, searching online for all kind of anomalies...


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: matu on June 02, 2022, 08:30:47 PM
Hola a todos.
No sé si entendí bien el concepto, pero creo que lo que hace el sistema Holcomb, no lo hace un sistema trifásico convencional, ya que si bien es cierto que el sistema trifásico, crea un campo rotatorio bien difinido, no produce "ARRASTRE" de electrones en las bobinas inducidas, ya que va cambiando de fase a cada paso, Holcomb avanza paso a paso, pero llevando energizadas en todo momento al menos cuatro bobinas con el mismo polo magnético, por lo que a mi entender si que produce arrastre, que eso sea el motivo de la sobreunidad ya no lo tengo tan claro.
Saludos

Hello everyone.
I do not know if I understood the concept well, but I think what the Holcomb system does, does not do a conventional three -phase system, since it is true that the three -phase system, creates a well -diffused rotary field, does not produce "drag" Electrons in the induced coils, since it is changing from phase to each step, Holcomo progresses step by step, but carrying at all times at least four coils with the same magnetic pole, so that in my opinion if it produces drag, which, which That is the reason for the envelope I am no longer so clear.
Cheers
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 02, 2022, 09:53:42 PM
Hi Ufo,

Do you frequent OUR.com? Some very good threads, posts and members over there. Recently member F6FLT posted a reply to a newbie which I would like to share.

"Of course we can laugh when this well-known and completely conventional banality is brandished as a discovery.
Unless you think you're smarter than everyone else, which is unfortunately common because of the Dunning-Kruger effect, tell yourself that if you have a simple brilliant idea in a hackneyed field like electromagnetism, hundreds of thousands of others have had it before you in the past, that the idea is just the result of your own ignorance of the field, and that if it's simple, it's not brilliant at all but wrong. So if you really believe in it, at least make the effort to study and experiment first, rather than bothering us with useless childishness.

So Ufo, carry on. I'll be standing by waiting for proof, or at least convincing evidence.
bi

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 02, 2022, 10:20:45 PM
The U.S. Patent Office received strong evidence for the examination of Dr. Robert Holcomb's patent and, as I understand it, Park Jae-sung's patent US8629588B2

or conducting an examination means nothing, and skeptics continue to argue that this is impossible.


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 12:48:02 AM
Hello!  Thanks to all of you who give your time to participate on this thread, which I follow closely.  I have carefully studied Holcomb Energy System's website, all their videos and the pertinent patent.  There is a mystery perhaps someone here can solve. 

For those who have studied the patent and videos, you have noticed a significant discrepancy between the "rotor" geometry and winding pattern in the patent and in the videos.  Attached are two drawings from the patent showing similar winding patterns and two pictures from the videos of their present rotors, which do not conform to the patent. 

The patent drawings show narrow salient poles with coils wrapped around each individual pole.  Yet the "rotor" windings in the videos span multiple rotor teeth and, as can be seen in the top view, the salient poles resemble typical rotor teeth rather than long, thin salient poles.  Coils are clearly not wound around each individual salient pole.  The bottom view is particularly mysterious in that it suggests a winding pattern that repeats every 3 teeth.

The patent describes sequential DC switching of individually wound coils to create the rotating magnetic fields.  If HES is using DC switching with the present windings, they are not switching individual salient poles as described in the patent.   

Can anyone deduce a winding and switching pattern that conforms to the pictures of the current rotor, particularly including the bottom view with 3-tooth repeats?  Thanks for your help.




 

 

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 12:50:26 AM
Pictures referenced in previous comment did not attach.  Here they all are.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Feb2006 on June 03, 2022, 03:21:22 AM
Solarlab your timing sequence does not add up ,
“North pole 58(1) and South pole 57(1) are simultaneously excited with DC current;
1.043 milliseconds later North pole 58(2) and South pole 57(2) are excited;
1.043 milliseconds later North pole 58(3)and South pole 57(3)  are excited; and then
1.043 milliseconds later, North pole 58(4)and South pole 57(4) are excited.

Then 1.043 milliseconds later, the cycle begins all over again.

  1,043 + 1,043 + 1.043 + 1.043 = 4.172

 Don't understand where you get 4ms off from?
I think period is for each pole and cycle is for all poles.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 03, 2022, 07:16:53 AM
...
You keep repeating the resultant vector (B Field)...or the "magnetic flux density field"...
Flux=Flow...there is nothing "technical" about the word "flux"...it means "flow" or the emanation that a magnetic field, or several fields produces, generates...and it varies, depends upon many factors...we could vary that flow/flux according to field input...attenuate it or increase it...collapse it or maintain it constant.

Point is, flux is NOT a Field...it is the resultant "product" generated by the field.
...

Hi Ufo,
As one of my reasons to be here is to challenge falsehoods, I will pick on this one. I know we discussed this before; how magnetic flux doesn't flow, but you insist it does and so state. Anyone can study magnetic fundamentals and learn the truth. I'll post an example below.

A quote from:

https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9

"However, magnetic flux does not actually flow from the north to the south pole or flow anywhere for that matter as magnetic flux is a static region around a magnet in which the magnetic force exists. In other words magnetic flux does not flow or move it is just there and is not influenced by gravity. "

And this region is considered a field. A magnetic flux field.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 07:58:39 AM
Pictures referenced in previous comment did not attach.  Here they all are.

There is nothing unusual about the design of the Holcomb generator. It has two solid-state rotors, external and internal, and between them a stator with generator windings. It actually has two generators in one.
Study my posts, you can simply collect them separately and find all the answers.
Holcomb models the operation of a four-pole rotor, the rotor can be either internal or external.
Why switching, it creates in the stator the effect of constant magnetic intensity along the poles that move

There is another patent by inventor Park Jae-sung that "skeptics of the system" are ignoring

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8629588B2/en?oq=8%2c629%2c588

this is the same thing, only the switching of electromagnets is different, on the contrary with a collector motor.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 11:53:56 AM
Rikarskiy - Thank you for your comment.  I have studied your posts, as well as all others on this thread and on UFOPolitics' excellent build thread.  If the answers were there I would not have wasted anyone's time with my post.  I fully understand the principles of this device and have studied the patent in detail.  Please do not equate my being a Newbie on this forum with a lack of understanding or my ability as a builder. 

The pictures of the windings on the "rotor" being used in Holcomb's present device do not at all correspond with the windings in the patents or the windings you just posted pictures of. 

Please pay particular attention to the picture of the bottom of the rotor again attached.  The windings span multiple teeth with the wires to the outside spaced every 3 teeth on what looks like a 36 tooth rotor.  It appears he has inserted spacers in the center of each tooth to fix an air gap distance.  We should discern what kind of wiring and switching pattern corresponds to that picture if we wish to fully understand how Holcomb is presently creating his rotating magnetic field. 

   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 01:24:45 PM
Rikarskiy - Thank you for your comment.  I have studied your posts, as well as all others on this thread and on UFOPolitics' excellent build thread.  If the answers were there I would not have wasted anyone's time with my post.  I fully understand the principles of this device and have studied the patent in detail.  Please do not equate my being a Newbie on this forum with a lack of understanding or my ability as a builder. 

The pictures of the windings on the "rotor" being used in Holcomb's present device do not at all correspond with the windings in the patents or the windings you just posted pictures of. 

Please pay particular attention to the picture of the bottom of the rotor again attached.  The windings span multiple teeth with the wires to the outside spaced every 3 teeth on what looks like a 36 tooth rotor.  It appears he has inserted spacers in the center of each tooth to fix an air gap distance.  We should discern what kind of wiring and switching pattern corresponds to that picture if we wish to fully understand how Holcomb is presently creating his rotating magnetic field. 
 

First, if you look at the windings, I see the generator winding laid.
Secondly, if we assume that this is really a rotor, then there is an interesting patent by Nikola Tesla, where the excitation of the pole went in a wave-like manner. As an option, this option is probably correct, to reduce the inductance parameter.
I don't care how he decided to excite the magnetic pole. The main thing is that he excites them according to a special algorithm.
The gap is important, but it should be as small as possible.

In the attached photo, everything is beautifully visible, something that is in the patent is in reality.

Sincerely!

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 01:38:27 PM
Rakarskiy, What is the source of the photo please?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 01:49:08 PM
Rakarskiy, What is the source of the photo please?

I do not remember the source, but this is a screenshot from the screen of my monitor, taken on May 11, 2022 at 8:30 am. I can collect information. Possibly a frame from one of Dr. Holcomb's commercials.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 01:59:06 PM
Rakarskyi - Thank you for the photo.  Are you sure it is a picture of the Holcomb generator?  I cannot recall seeing it in any of Holcomb's videos or on their website.   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 02:14:13 PM
Rakarskyi - Thank you for the photo.  Are you sure it is a picture of the Holcomb generator?  I cannot recall seeing it in any of Holcomb's videos or on their website.   




I wonder what you were looking at? photo from this thread


https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg564949/#msg564949


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 02:58:47 PM
Hi Ufo,
As one of my reasons to be here is to challenge falsehoods, I will pick on this one. I know we discussed this before; how magnetic flux doesn't flow, but you insist it does and so state. Anyone can study magnetic fundamentals and learn the truth. I'll post an example below.

A quote from:

https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9 (https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9)

"However, magnetic flux does not actually flow from the north to the south pole or flow anywhere for that matter as magnetic flux is a static region around a magnet in which the magnetic force exists. In other words magnetic flux does not flow or move it is just there and is not influenced by gravity. "

And this region is considered a field. A magnetic flux field.
bi


Bistander,

Here is your problem...you keep posting the same old stuff, the old school B.S which even keep contradicting itself...here is an example, and written one paragraph after the other...unvbelievable that people still believe all this nonsense!!

 
Quote
1-The general direction for the magnetic flux flow is from the North (N) to the South (S)pole.
In addition, these magnetic lines form closed loops that leave at the north pole of the magnet and enter at the south pole. Magnetic poles are always in pairs.


2-However, magnetic flux does not actually flow from the north to the south pole or flow anywhere for that matter as magnetic flux is a static region around a magnet in which the magnetic force exists. In other words magnetic flux does not flow or move it is just there and is not influenced by gravity. Some important facts emerge when plotting lines of force.

Just by reading both paragraphs above, We can easily identify all CONTRADICTING INFORMATION!!

1- First: "Magnetic Flux flow is from North to South"
2- Second: "Magnetic Flux does  not actually flow"

...¿?


Btw, can you, Bistander, cite just one single Experiment done through our entire history...which shows that the "Magnetic Flux Flow" takes place from North to South??!!


This is exactly what you claim you are against...FALSEHOODS, MISLEADING INFO...but then, you post it yourself...?

So, "Magnetic Flux is a STATIC region around a Magnet" ??   ??? !!

Magnetic Flux CAN NOT be more DYNAMIC, MORE FLEXIBLE AND LESS STATIC than it ACTUALLY IS!!

And this properties are very easily demonstrated by holding just a couple of magnets and observe, feel their interactions at LARGE!!

ANYONE (Don't need a degree or a PHD in Sciences) can throw out all these FALSE theories in a matter of seconds!!

Magnetic Fields actually JUMPS, ENLARGES, MUTATES PARTIALLY from the Field Source itself to any INERT ferromagnetic material set in a close gap, close range to it...seen very clearly with Viewing Film!!

Static?...my A$$
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 03:07:08 PM
Rakarskyi - Thank you tremendously for the links and the photo!  The generator in that photo does not resemble any pictures currently on their website or in their YouTube videos.  I just reviewed them all.  Though it does resemble the generator in their animation.  They have deleted that picture of the generator from their published material.  You have done everyone a great service by saving it.  Clearly it contains information they would rather not have publicly disclosed. 

The generator in the deleted picture has two "rotors!"  There is an inner rotor, a 3-phase stator, then an outer rotor.  The patent shows only an inner rotor.  An outer rotor may be critical to fully understand why the device works and for builders attempting to replicate it.  Having the benefit of this deleted picture, I believe the photo I previously posted and labeled bottom view of rotor is most likely a picture of a 3-phase stator before being sandwiched between two rotors.

Thank you again for saving and sharing that photo.  Fabulous!  Geometry and winding pattern of the entire generator is now clear.





 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 03:11:35 PM
Magnetic Flux does NOT flow!
Magnetic Flux has a attraction vector, to connect in a "ring"!
If the current is open then the current has poles! The vector is formed from the maximum "pressure" of the explosion to the minimum "pressure" of the implosion.
If the flow is closed, the poles disappear and the flow itself forms a ring! The ring is the strongest state of magnetic flux.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 03:14:45 PM
Rakarskyi - Thank you tremendously for the links and the photo!  The generator in that photo does not resemble any pictures currently on their website or in their YouTube videos.  I just reviewed them all.  Though it does resemble the generator in their animation.  They have deleted that picture of the generator from their published material.  You have done everyone a great service by saving it.  Clearly it contains information they would rather not have publicly disclosed. 

The generator in the deleted picture has two "rotors!"  There is an inner rotor, a 3-phase stator, then an outer rotor.  The patent shows only an inner rotor.  An outer rotor may be critical to fully understand why the device works and for builders attempting to replicate it.  Having the benefit of this deleted picture, I believe the photo I previously posted and labeled bottom view of rotor is most likely a picture of a 3-phase stator before being sandwiched between two rotors.

Thank you again for saving and sharing that photo.  Fabulous!  Geometry and winding pattern of the entire generator is now clear.

why would they hide something when the patent is in the public domain. They have Instagram and other platforms.
The problem is different, engineers who can understand and repeat units.

Sincerely
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 03, 2022, 03:23:39 PM
Ufo,
N & S poles are just labels to help visualize. Unimportant. What is important is the direction of the field, we call B vector.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 03:31:29 PM
Rakarksky - As you know, the patent does not show an outer rotor.  The patent application was made over 4.5 years ago on Nov 17, 2017.  Improvements have undoubtedly been made in the meantime.  The outer rotor is likely a significant improvement or it would not have been made.  It may be the difference between a marginally effective generator and a highly effective generator. 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 03, 2022, 03:42:00 PM
First, if you look at the windings, I see the generator winding laid.
Secondly, if we assume that this is really a rotor, then there is an interesting patent by Nikola Tesla, where the excitation of the pole went in a wave-like manner. As an option, this option is probably correct, to reduce the inductance parameter.
I don't care how he decided to excite the magnetic pole. The main thing is that he excites them according to a special algorithm.
The gap is important, but it should be as small as possible.

In the attached photo, everything is beautifully visible, something that is in the patent is in reality.

Sincerely!


Nothing new.
That photo has been publicized and discussed before.
Inner and outer cores have the same number of concentrated coils. That coils are pulsed in pairs to mimick "rotating magnetic field vector".
Between them, middle core is a typical electric motor stator with distributed windings. That windings intercept rotating magnetic field and induce currents.
Simple generator.
The same effect you will get with AC slip ring motor: mechanically lock the rotor and supply 3 slip rings with balanced 3 phase signal. Currents will be generated in the stator windings.
No OU there.


Cheers  :) ,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 03:44:36 PM
Ufo,
N & S poles are just labels to help visualize. Unimportant. What is important is the direction of the field, we call B vector.
bi


DEMONSTRATE IT!!

Its too easy just to write and copy-paste stuff...show proof!!


SHOW ANY EXPERIMENT, WHICH SHOWS THAT A "B FIELD VECTOR" EXISTS...AND IT EMERGES "ONLY" FROM "NORTH POLE"?...not from  South?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 03:47:21 PM
Rakarksky - As you know, the patent does not show an outer rotor.  The patent application was made over 4.5 years ago on Nov 17, 2017.  Improvements have undoubtedly been made in the meantime.  The outer rotor is likely a significant improvement or it would not have been made.  It may be the difference between a marginally effective generator and a highly effective generator.

 ;)
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/eb/0c/07/d463fa60c9f935/WO2021063522A1.pdf

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 03:59:21 PM

Hello,



I have Experimented, Researched and Developed for YEARS with MAGNETISM, and it is ALL there FREE for anyone to watch...

I HAVE PROOF...OVER MANY YEARS, MANY!!


MAGNETISM PLAYLIST VIDEOS (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDK7GC_dPVji-WQ0UoQGcRuS6tjRw_JPg)


It is very difficult that anyone here could demonstrate studies related to Magnetism, like I have CONDUCTED over Years of Work!!


Not only in experiments, but also amazing GRAPHICS for People to really understand the DYNAMICS OF MAGNETISM!!


Unless you bring me here, Ken Wheeler (Uncovering Missing Secrets of Magnetism), Tim Vanderelli (FERROCELL PATENT), or Michael Snyder (Revolution Labs)


Sincerely


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 03, 2022, 04:00:44 PM

DEMONSTRATE IT!!

Its too easy just to write and copy-paste stuff...show proof!!


SHOW ANY EXPERIMENT, WHICH SHOWS THAT A "B FIELD VECTOR" EXISTS...AND IT EMERGES "ONLY" FROM "NORTH POLE"?...not from  South?

"EMERGES "ONLY" FROM "NORTH POLE""
 What are you talking about?
Study magnetism. Here's a good start.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetism
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 03, 2022, 04:05:30 PM
Hello,



I have Experimented, Researched and Developed for YEARS with MAGNETISM, and it is ALL there FREE for anyone to watch...

I HAVE PROOF...OVER MANY YEARS, MANY!!


MAGNETISM PLAYLIST VIDEOS (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDK7GC_dPVji-WQ0UoQGcRuS6tjRw_JPg)


It is very difficult that anyone here could demonstrate studies related to Magnetism, like I have CONDUCTED over Years of Work!!


Not only in experiments, but also amazing GRAPHICS for People to really understand the DYNAMICS OF MAGNETISM!!


Unless you bring me here, Ken Wheeler (Uncovering Missing Secrets of Magnetism), Tim Vanderelli (FERROCELL PATENT), or Michael Snyder (Revolution Labs)


Sincerely


Ufopolitics

Any peer reviews on these far fetched theories?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 04:08:47 PM
Magnetic Flux does NOT flow!

 ;D

Flux=Flow...search Flux meaning...:

FLUX: the action or process of flowing or flowing out.

"the flux of men and women moving back and forth"


"Flux does not flow" is like saying "water is not water"
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Beginners Mind on June 03, 2022, 04:11:30 PM
Rakarskyi - Thank you for the link to the international patent application.  Wonderful!  I had only seen the US patent and application before.  The US patent, which was just granted, does not include the outer rotor which is shown in the international patent you just provided the link to.  Between 2017 when he filed for the US patent and 2019 when he filed for the international patent Dr. Holcomb must have made the outer rotor/sandwiched stator improvement.  Since the outer rotor is in the public domain internationally it is puzzling then why pictures of it have been deleted from their materials.  Regardless, thanks again for the information.  Things are clear now. 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 04:13:40 PM
Any peer reviews on these far fetched theories?


Read the Book...watch the experiments...watch the Ferrocell images...Viewfilm, CRT Exposure...etc,etc...then open your mind (which is gonna be very difficult, because it is really, really closed up!!)


But you brought the theory that "B Fields "Vector" comes only from North Pole"...


Prove it!!


Search all you want online...take your time...Tic Toc...Tic Toc...
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: alan on June 03, 2022, 04:16:57 PM
Flux doesn't flow inside a core except for the μ0 part, it polarizes the magnetic domains which create their own field, just like in an electric circuit, the electric field through a circuit is from the electrons which become polarized by the emf source.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 04:21:45 PM
@Beginners Mind:

A Patent is not a Building Manual...

Patents are written in the most General form that they could be done...that means "Protection", as it is recommended by all Patent Lawyers.

Holcomb have different structures shown across his Applications and Patents...

To move or Rotate a Magnetic Field there are multiple instances...many different approaches...

But only a few are successful... ;D


Regards, Welcome and so I am happy that you are already approved to post here!!


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 04:25:09 PM
;D

Flux=Flow...search Flux meaning...:

FLUX: the action or process of flowing or flowing out.

"the flux of men and women moving back and forth"


"Flux does not flow" is like saying "water is not water"

Hard to explain,
electric current or magnetic current, this is the spin "rotation" of the force field. It's just a flow, it's like a spiral, it changes with saturation (density).
It is this property that is taken as motion.
 
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 04:29:01 PM
Flux doesn't flow inside a core except for the μ0 part

Alan,

Negative, Magnetic Field starts, emanates exactly from inside the core, the gravitational center of core, to be more specific.

Just conduct a simple experiment (like I have done)...an Air Core Coil...connected to a PSU...then run a loose magnet hold by an axis and a bar...within the hollow core...you will see the behavior of the small magnet when traveling from one pole to the other...how it "flips right at the center of the coil.
ELECTROMAGNETS DIVIDING POLES CENTER PLANE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpAb8vfah0c&list=PLDK7GC_dPVji-WQ0UoQGcRuS6tjRw_JPg&index=7)


Cheers

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: alan on June 03, 2022, 04:42:02 PM
Alan,

Negative, Magnetic Field starts, emanates exactly from inside the core, the gravitational center of core, to be more specific.

Just conduct a simple experiment (like I have done)...an Air Core Coil...connected to a PSU...then run a loose magnet hold by an axis and a bar...within the hollow core...you will see the behavior of the small magnet when traveling from one pole to the other...how it "flips right at the center of the coil.
ELECTROMAGNETS DIVIDING POLES CENTER PLANE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpAb8vfah0c&list=PLDK7GC_dPVji-WQ0UoQGcRuS6tjRw_JPg&index=7)


Cheers

Ufopolitics
Interesting demo! 
In the first demo I don't think it flips, but each pole keeps facing the opposite pole of the coil.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 03, 2022, 05:03:11 PM

But you brought the theory that "B Fields "Vector" comes only from North Pole"

You're making stuff up. I never said that or implied it.

And I've read Ken's book. It's absurd. We've been thru all this years ago on EF. Nothing's changed. Fact is fact and your theories are wrong. I support scientific knowledge which has proofs. Every experiment and experience I've done or witnessed supports this.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 03, 2022, 05:27:23 PM
To Ufo and all,

"It is difficult to give a simple definition of magnetic or electromagnetic field."

https://e-magnetica.pl/magnetic_field

bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 03, 2022, 05:46:27 PM
You're making stuff up. I never said that or implied it.
bi
Your previously posted link (which since you post it, means that you agree with) establishes a Magnetic Flux direction, which comes out of NORTH and returns to South...completely ignoring the center of the Field...but that's not the point.
The point is your B Vector direction, which "happens" to coincide with this unproven directional flow "theory" from N to S.


I DID NOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP...You post it.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 03, 2022, 06:36:41 PM
To Ufo and all,

"It is difficult to give a simple definition of magnetic or electromagnetic field."

https://e-magnetica.pl/magnetic_field

bi

This is all the concept of modern physics. It is nothing but a concept, the same as the concept of an electron. I don't think it's true.
Especially the Lorentz force, which does not manifest itself in any way in the induction of EMF on the wire, inside the magnetically conductive core.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 04, 2022, 12:24:31 AM
This is all the concept of modern physics. It is nothing but a concept, the same as the concept of an electron. I don't think it's true.
Especially the Lorentz force, which does not manifest itself in any way in the induction of EMF on the wire, inside the magnetically conductive core.

Dr Stan Zurek wrote that. His bio is impressive. Did you look at it? I think he is in your part of the world. Perhaps you could arrange a discussion with him about your misconceptions of Lorentz.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 04, 2022, 12:44:21 AM
...
But you brought the theory that "B Fields "Vector" comes only from North Pole"...
...
Ufo,

OK, I see. You are misquoting from the link I posted.

https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9

That isn't the best written article. Perhaps more explanatory for young students than highly technical. I believe confusion arises between descriptions of diagrams and actual theory. But there are likely a thousand other easily found references which will state explicitly that magnetic flux does not flow. Look it up.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 04, 2022, 01:23:41 AM
Your previously posted link (which since you post it, means that you agree with) establishes a Magnetic Flux direction, which comes out of NORTH and returns to South...completely ignoring the center of the Field...but that's not the point.
The point is your B Vector direction, which "happens" to coincide with this unproven directional flow "theory" from N to S.
...

Ufo, there is nothing special about the center of a magnet. It should be ignored.
You have you own theory about magnetism. I've never seen anyone of scientific reputation agree with or relate anything like it. Whereas I am in agreement with the universally accepted scientific theory.
Now you question my take on the B vector direction. That would be what is taught in every institution, textbook and tutorial. So just look it up.
The B vector direction defines the pole, not the other way around.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 07:38:06 AM
Dr Stan Zurek wrote that. His bio is impressive. Did you look at it? I think he is in your part of the world. Perhaps you could arrange a discussion with him about your misconceptions of Lorentz.
bi

The problem is that modern physics is concepts. Today, no physicist can say exactly what magnetism and electricity are. The professors need a discussion, I don't need it.
I do not adhere to the point of view, about the material point, in understanding the fields. The Lorenz's force initially cannot affect the "charge", since it does not yet exist. "Charging" is still worth appearing.

By the way, what do you mean by "charge" - an electric field or a magnetic field, or electrons, which, according to modern science, are already in the conductor?

Mitkevich's rule "In electrical machines, electrical power is equal to mechanical power"  Pe = EI = Blv*I = BIL*v = Fv = Pk  I have already smashed to pieces here ( Resultant Ampere Force (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/rezultirujushhaja_sila_ampera/3-1-0-146) ), or rather clarified to the real picture.


Now, in our case, we are used to taking the direction vector (B) in the magnetic flux. Now let's look at the picture of a two-pole synchronous generator, in particular, the direction of the magnetic induction vectors in the walls of the slotted rods and the wire in the groove of the stator core.

We see that the vectors in the two faces of the coil coincide, while the EMF is induced. In the wall of the groove rod, only its saturation changes with time, or, as science figuratively says, "the magnetic field changes with time."
Ostets only character of the pole field is "explosion" or "implosion".

Lorenz's strength is in great prostration, don't you think?

PS experience that the vectors coincide and the EMF is induced, Ufopolitika confirmed that in this design (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD75qPTkf_w&t=1s ), if he winds it correctly to get frames, he will just get a picture from their textbook, and the maximum unidirectional EMF, they will not butt him.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 07:59:08 AM
two pole generator and stator winding    ;)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 10:11:17 AM
... there is nothing special about the center of a magnet. It should be ignored.

Are you sure about that?
I think that in the center of a magnet or electromagnet, the most "concentrated" magnetic flux (Bm), since on its pole face, the magnetic induction is B = 1/2Bm
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on June 04, 2022, 11:10:14 AM
Please answer me, a conventional car generator with a Lundel rotor.
The current consumed by the rotor magnetization winding will be the same in three cases?
1. If the rotor is stationary.
2. If the rotor rotates without load.
3. If the rotor rotates on a loaded generator.
Or will the excitation currents be different?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 04, 2022, 01:15:21 PM
Are you sure about that?
I think that in the center of a magnet or electromagnet, the most "concentrated" magnetic flux (Bm), since on its pole face, the magnetic induction is B = 1/2Bm
The quest for OU in a modified AC motor  :)
Listen, guys have  been doing it with permanent magnets and without permanent magnets, using different winding configuration, exotic windings shapes, switching techniques ect.
You will not get OU from Holcomb, doesn't matter which way you are going to make B field vector rotate.
Wrong patch for OU quest.
Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 04, 2022, 02:25:22 PM
Please answer me, a conventional car generator with a Lundel rotor.
The current consumed by the rotor magnetization winding will be the same in three cases?
1. If the rotor is stationary.
2. If the rotor rotates without load.
3. If the rotor rotates on a loaded generator.
Or will the excitation currents be different?


@Kolbacict,

The current and voltage supplied to the exciter rotor coil comes from a portion of the output coils and the voltage regulator is in charge to control it.
So, no, current will not be the same in the 3 cases.

Therefore:

1-If rotor is stationary there will be zero currents.
2-In a no load alternator current will be controlled by regulator.
3-When Alternator is loaded, voltage and current regulator will increase supply to exciter coil.

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 04, 2022, 02:37:55 PM
@All

An AC Motor (single phase) windings will not work as a generator for these Stationary Rotor Systems.(I have tested it)
An AC Motor (2 Phase) Stator, I have it, but have not got there yet...have to machine rotor and stator to make them fit.
But just by looking at it, I can tell it will work, but not as a dedicated Generator winding for these type of systems.

I have not tested a 3 phase Motor Stator. But, because of its overlapped windings in sequence, it should work beautifully.

I have Generator Stators (single phase) and it does not work as a dedicated stator winding for these application will.

It is a different configuration...

I will post the correct winding soon on my Thread.

I give (or at least try) to share solutions to resolve OU once and for all...Not "denials" all the time...no "hidden traps"...no secrets.

That's me.

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on June 04, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
1-If rotor is stationary there will be zero currents.
Hmm... Obviously you mean that the car's electrical system will simply turn off the voltage regulator when the engine is not running. In our case, the current through the field winding will be determined simply by the ohmic resistance of the winding. I meant it. In the other two cases, I don't know.
I didn't take measurements.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 04, 2022, 03:17:03 PM
History repeats itself.
There were many " wonder" patents a'la Holcomb trying to make OU from induction motor-like variations.
Reminds me of this one:
US20020125774A1 - Continuous electrical generator - Google Patents (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20020125774A1/en)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 04, 2022, 03:39:22 PM
Hmm... Obviously you mean that the car's electrical system will simply turn off the voltage regulator when the engine is not running.

Ignition switch will turn off the supply to all Engine Electrical circuits, and yes, including the Alternator AVR.
Only some of the Accesories (clock) and some of the electronics on board computers will remain on minimal supply power.

In our case, the current through the field winding will be determined simply by the ohmic resistance of the winding. I meant it. In the other two cases, I don't know.
I didn't take measurements.

In this case just by using a simple switch, will turn off the supply to exciter coils drivers and so Input to the Mag Field Motor...that is it.


Cheers


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 04, 2022, 05:00:35 PM
In our case, the current through the field winding will be determined simply by the ohmic resistance of the winding.

Sorry, I overlooked your statement above...

The current to the Exciter Field is not only determined by the ohmic resistance of its coils.
It is depending on the speed that Rotating Field is driven.
At low speeds, low frequencies currents in the exciter coils will INCREASE.
At high speed currents will DECREASE.
The opposite takes place at Stator Windings...Amperage will Increase with higher operating speeds.

This is the perfect recipe for Overunity...it just have to be adjusted properly.

Cheers


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 04, 2022, 05:11:58 PM
Well, well, well


And...here we all have the answer about previous debate about AC, 3 Phase "Rotating Field"...As I said before, it don't work, period.

Based on the previous shown failed and abandoned Patent from Molina-Martinez (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20020125774A1/en)

So, let's review its Abstract:

Abstract

A stationary cylindrical electromagnetic core, made of one piece thin laminations stacked to desired height, having closed slots radially distributed, where two three-phase winding arrangements are placed together in the same slots, one to the center, one to the exterior, for the purpose of creating a rotational electromagnetic field by applying temporarily a three-phase current to one of said windings, and by this means, inducting a voltage on the second one, in such a way that the outgoing energy is a lot greater than the input. A return will feedback the system and the temporary source is then disconnected. The generator will run by itself indefinitely generating a great excess of energy permanently.

So, He was feeding (priming) the Generator Exciter Field with AC Three Phase currents...to create that "Rotational Electromagnetic Field"

And so, it failed to produce, to generate what was expected...or "generator running by itself indefinitely "

Nope, can't do, not with this AC 3 Phase currents, no matter how much "tantrum" is given ...


Cheers


Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 05:22:53 PM
The quest for OU in a modified AC motor  :)
Listen, guys have  been doing it with permanent magnets and without permanent magnets, using different winding configuration, exotic windings shapes, switching techniques ect.
You will not get OU from Holcomb, doesn't matter which way you are going to make B field vector rotate.
Wrong patch for OU quest.
Cheers,
Pix

Don't worry, does everything work for Holcomb?
If you correctly calculate the magnetic circuit, the work will be with Over Unity

How do you feel about this organization?   http://klnran.ru

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 04, 2022, 05:23:16 PM
Well, well, well


And...here we all have the answer about previous debate about AC, 3 Phase "Rotating Field"...As I said before, it don't work, period.

Based on the previous shown failed and abandoned Patent from Molina-Martinez (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20020125774A1/en)

So, let's review its Abstract:

Abstract

A stationary cylindrical electromagnetic core, made of one piece thin laminations stacked to desired height, having closed slots radially distributed, where two three-phase winding arrangements are placed together in the same slots, one to the center, one to the exterior, for the purpose of creating a rotational electromagnetic field by applying temporarily a three-phase current to one of said windings, and by this means, inducting a voltage on the second one, in such a way that the outgoing energy is a lot greater than the input. A return will feedback the system and the temporary source is then disconnected. The generator will run by itself indefinitely generating a great excess of energy permanently.

So, He was feeding (priming) the Generator Exciter Field with AC Three Phase currents...to create that "Rotational Electromagnetic Field"

And so, it failed to produce, to generate what was expected...or "generator running by itself indefinitely "

Nope, can't do, not with this AC 3 Phase currents, no matter how much "tantrum" is given ...


Cheers


Ufopolitics


.... neither with you,switching the coils a'la Holcomb to get magnetic field rotation.
Just posted it to give a hint how it will end up.


Cheers,
Pix


PS. I did never said that it will OU with 3 phase rotation. Exactly the same- it will not OU with your switching the coils.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 04, 2022, 05:36:56 PM
Don't worry, does everything work for Holcomb?
If you correctly calculate the magnetic circuit, the work will be with Over Unity

How do you feel about this organization?   http://klnran.ru (http://klnran.ru)
Sorry, but I do have only negative feelings about RU.
Nothing good caming trom RU direction.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 06:09:03 PM
Sorry, but I do have only negative feelings about RU.
Nothing good caming trom RU direction.

 COMMISSION FOR COMBATING PSEUSION SCIENCE under the Presidium of the Russian Academy of Sciences  / КОМИССИЯ ПО БОРЬБЕ С ЛЖЕНАУКОЙ  при Президиуме Российской академии наук

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on June 04, 2022, 06:53:22 PM
At low speeds, low frequencies currents in the exciter coils will INCREASE.
At high speed currents will DECREASE.
The opposite takes place at Stator Windings...Amperage will Increase with higher operating speeds.
This is the perfect recipe for Overunity...it just have to be adjusted properly.
I understand. This is amazing. :)
And if we throw out the coil from the Lundell rotor, and insert a permanent magnet in its place.
What will happen in this case?
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 04, 2022, 07:00:30 PM
And if we throw out the coil from the Lundell rotor, and insert a permanent magnet in its place.
What will happen in this case?


I do not know...ask Pix, He already tried it... ;D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 04, 2022, 07:01:29 PM
Well, well, well


And...here we all have the answer about previous debate about AC, 3 Phase "Rotating Field"...As I said before, it don't work, period.

Based on the previous shown failed and abandoned Patent from Molina-Martinez (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20020125774A1/en)

So, let's review its Abstract:

Abstract

A stationary cylindrical electromagnetic core, made of one piece thin laminations stacked to desired height, having closed slots radially distributed, where two three-phase winding arrangements are placed together in the same slots, one to the center, one to the exterior, for the purpose of creating a rotational electromagnetic field by applying temporarily a three-phase current to one of said windings, and by this means, inducting a voltage on the second one, in such a way that the outgoing energy is a lot greater than the input. A return will feedback the system and the temporary source is then disconnected. The generator will run by itself indefinitely generating a great excess of energy permanently.

So, He was feeding (priming) the Generator Exciter Field with AC Three Phase currents...to create that "Rotational Electromagnetic Field"

And so, it failed to produce, to generate what was expected...or "generator running by itself indefinitely "

Nope, can't do, not with this AC 3 Phase currents, no matter how much "tantrum" is given ...


Cheers


Ufopolitics

We said it produces a RMF, not OU.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 04, 2022, 07:15:37 PM
Are you sure about that?
I think that in the center of a magnet or electromagnet, the most "concentrated" magnetic flux (Bm), since on its pole face, the magnetic induction is B = 1/2Bm

Hi rakarskiy, where did you come up with 1/2 flux density on pole face vs middle?
This place has some good tools and info.
bi

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 04, 2022, 08:01:40 PM

I do not know...ask Pix, He already tried it... ;D
At the end, it is your time and your money wasted. ;)
Good luck.


Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 08:05:33 PM
Hi rakarskiy, where did you come up with 1/2 flux density on pole face vs middle?
This place has some good tools and info.
bi

Source:  https://www.dextermag.com

Quote
Formulas for calculating permanent magnets
Below are methods and formulas for an approximate calculation of simple magnetic systems based on permanent magnets, recommended by the British company Dexter, which are quite accessible to the understanding of an elderly lumberjack. All subsequent formulas, comments and pictures are taken directly from the company's website, although I cannot vouch for the absolute accuracy of my translation.

 The calculation of the magnetic induction of axially magnetized cylindrical magnets with a radius (r) and length (l), at a point located at a distance (d) from the surface, along the axis is carried out according to the formula: (the attachment)

Example:
r=0.5", l=1", d=0.25", B r =12200 Gauss, B=2935.7 Gauss
Calculation by the boundary element method (BEM), B=2788.7 Gauss


 В= Br/2    ;)
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 04, 2022, 08:37:48 PM
Source:  https://www.dextermag.com


 В= Br/2    ;)

Thanks. I don't agree with your deduction, but this is off topic, so let it ride.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 04, 2022, 09:14:16 PM
Thanks. I don't agree with your deduction, but this is off topic, so let it ride.
bi

ok, but that's not my conclusion, that's physics.
By the way, just on the topic, the rules for the formation of magnetic circuits, a magnet or an electromagnet in a magnetic circuit and magnetic inductions will be different.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 06, 2022, 02:07:03 PM
At the end, it is your time and your money wasted. ;)
Good luck.

Pix

Thks Pix, yes, you are right, it is my money and my time...

But what "if"...it works...what would you do "if" I show everyone O.U. on my build?
Would you replicate it?...or you would just start denying it and Nahing it?

Just asking...

Cheers

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: SolarLab on June 06, 2022, 05:35:37 PM
Ufopolitics,


You do some excellent work - thanks for sharing! You will, most certainly, achieve your objectives IMHO.

Over the past couple of months, as you might be aware, the Holcomb methods and techniques, in the form
of a pseudo Linear Generator (LinGen), have been studied by way of advanced Computer Aided Engineering (CAE).
Results of that analysis strongly indicate:

1. A magnetic field can be made to move, or slide (rotate), along a metal structure by way of only using
electical pulsing of Pole Coil/Windings. There are no moving parts if the pulses are created electronically
(as shown in the patent).

2. The magnetic field can be "amplified" or increased by way of using ferromagnetic metals for the
Pole pieces. This follows, to a great extent, the well known material BH Curve. It appears to perform
somewhat differently to what is commonly published, but the phenomenum is clearly present.

3. CAE output data strongly points to Excess Energy output as compared to standard generator
performance (as claimed in the patents).


CAE analysis is found in a series of posts in the OUR Forum under "Solarlab," with the brief final results starting at:
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99112#msg99112 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99112#msg99112)

Of interest are the "Co-Energy_Energy" and "Induced_Voltage_Coil-9" (the output Lap Wound Stator coil)
graphs [attached].Unfortunately only two cycles (16mSec -> took about 8 hours of processing) were simulated but the trend
line of the Co-Energy graph is quite enlightening.


A related, but off-topic subject here [soon to be investigated and published], focuses on the driver pulse
generation using electronic means (inexpensive microprocessor driving high speed SiC or GaN FETS) with
flow chart derived software - easily modified as required.
Again, great work and best wishes!

SL


Graphs are too large, sorry - will have to figure out how to reduce them.... stand-by?



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: Ufopolitics on June 06, 2022, 06:07:35 PM
Ufopolitics,

You do some excellent work - thanks for sharing! You will, most certainly, achieve your objectives IMHO.


Thanks much SolarLab,

Greatly appreciated, basically when coming from someone like You!!

I also admire your work, you do incredible research and developments, and deep analysis and graphics.

Yes, it should work, and will work...previous studies and experiments show very promising results.

Best regards

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 07, 2022, 03:31:28 PM
I want to inform you that the Holcomb system, like any other solid-state electromagnetic generator, including a synchronous electromechanical one, where the stator has slots, operates on a speed change system. The speed, paradoxically, is magnetic induction.
Magnetic induction is measured in Tesla and Gauss: 1 T = 1 volt per second per square meter, and 1 gauss = 0.0001 volt per second per square meter.
***********
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux
***********
I do not think that many will understand me, but today I nevertheless solved this problem. How simply the materialists have translated everything into material forces. But even two magnets is an interaction of fields. and the two bodies of the magnet attraction and repulsion is a consequence of the work of the fields.

The plate in the attachment, when borrowed from an alternative forum from Russian-speaking physicists. This is a comparison of two systems electromagnetic and mechanical. Only the spin permeability of vacuum (mechanics, gravity) remained unclear. A very tricky moment, similar to voltage in electromagnetism; In mechanics, speed works. And the capacitance of an electric capacitor is the charge (charge capacity) divided by the voltage (we read the speed).

Next, we draw a conclusion about the mechanism of electromagnetic induction, and another type of hidden induction, on which other solid-state devices probably work (Kapanadze, S. Mark ..)

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: SolarLab on June 07, 2022, 10:53:42 PM
rakarskiy,

Your "solution" linking material forces, magnetics, and electromagnetics appears, for me at least, to be quite brilliant!
A "speed" or velocity element [squared] is found in nearly every system, and the equations used to describe them
[per second per square meter].

To quote, in part, from your writings (this is worth repeating in my opinion):

"In mechanics, speed works. And the capaticance of an electric capacitor is the charge (charge capacity)
divided by the voltage (we read the speed)."  [dx/dt]   "Next, we draw a conclusion about the mechanism
of electromagnetic induction, and another type of hidden induction, on which other solid-state devices
probably work (Kapanadze, S Mark ..)"

Linking "electromagnetic and mechanical" systems via "spin permeability of vacuum" is indeed a "very tricky moment."
A while back High Voltage was linked to the operation of devices similar to Kapanadze, Ruslan and Stalker but a detailed
physics connection was vague at best. Ref:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&topic=4154.msg96356#msg96356 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&topic=4154.msg96356#msg96356)

Your conclusion may well be that missing link.

This video might also be of interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BOpiMQXQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BOpiMQXQA)
Thanks for sharing your insight and best regards,
SL


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: bistander on June 08, 2022, 12:00:54 AM
I want to inform you that the Holcomb system, like any other solid-state electromagnetic generator, including a synchronous electromechanical one, where the stator has slots, operates on a speed change system. The speed, paradoxically, is magnetic induction.
Magnetic induction is measured in Tesla and Gauss: 1 T = 1 volt per second per square meter, and 1 gauss = 0.0001 volt per second per square meter.
***********
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux
***********
...

Hi rakarskiy,
You say "1 T = 1 volt per second per square meter, and 1 gauss = 0.0001 volt per second per square meter."
That is incorrect.
1 Tesla = 1 Weber per square meter. 1 Weber = 1 Volt • second. Therefore 1 T = 1 volt • second per square meter, not as you say.
bi
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 07:04:12 AM
Hi rakarskiy,
You say "1 T = 1 volt per second per square meter, and 1 gauss = 0.0001 volt per second per square meter."
That is incorrect.
1 Tesla = 1 Weber per square meter. 1 Weber = 1 Volt • second. Therefore 1 T = 1 volt • second per square meter, not as you say.
bi

bistander,
Thanks for the good point, I didn't specify what the difference is. This difference is really significant. You can say "per second - n / s" or "" for a period of time "seconds n * s"
(* clarification Google will translate from Russian "в секунду" and "за секунду" is always "per second", in Russian this is the difference)
in the first variant, the expression refers to the parameter of the action at the moment of time (for example, the speed of the flow of water, the point moves on a segment m / s)
in the second option, the expression refers to the quantity parameter over a period of time (for example, Watt * hour, Watt * second)

Since "voltage = speed" when comparing electromagnetism and mechanics, we can conditionally put an equal sign  U (V) = v^ 2 (m^ 2/s^ 2)

Thus, 1 Tesla is a parameter of the speed of the magnetic flux (no density or force). We change the speed in the time interval, we get the corresponding parameter of the electric voltage around the conductor.

Е = q /(ε0r^2)

The difference with the electrostatic field is only in its exceptional vortex structure (this is a dynamic electric field). Does not exist without a cause of its generative, at any given time.

Next, the basic formulas for EMF (vortex electric field)!

Е =dФ/dt  ( Ф=BS),    E = B*L*v,  E = 4.44*k*w*f*Ф 

At point-blank range, I do not see the manifestation of the Lorentz force. And the minus sign in the formula (Е = - dФ/dt) is absurd.

The reason is the same, the algorithm is the same, there are no Newtonian forces or even similarity. Forces are manifested only by the fact of counteraction / interaction of magnetic fields. In a conductor, the strength of the magnetic field is expressed in terms of current strength (in fact, this is the vortex magnetic field).

The strength of the current in the conductor, this is the result of the internal properties of a closed circuit, relates to an external magnetic field through the process of formation of an EMF. The current strength is related to the Ampere Force, and I have already specified how the EMF is involved here

http://rakarskiy.narod.ru/publ/free_energy_systems/rezultirujushhaja_sila_ampera/3-1-0-146


PS
the most interesting, what kind of animal is the magnetic flux, we do not answer. Perhaps this is the very structured ether about which there are disputes.

   
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 08:14:03 AM
rakarskiy,

Your "solution" linking material forces, magnetics, and electromagnetics appears, for me at least, to be quite brilliant!
A "speed" or velocity element [squared] is found in nearly every system, and the equations used to describe them
[per second per square meter].

To quote, in part, from your writings (this is worth repeating in my opinion):

"In mechanics, speed works. And the capaticance of an electric capacitor is the charge (charge capacity)
divided by the voltage (we read the speed)."  [dx/dt]   "Next, we draw a conclusion about the mechanism
of electromagnetic induction, and another type of hidden induction, on which other solid-state devices
probably work (Kapanadze, S Mark ..)"

Linking "electromagnetic and mechanical" systems via "spin permeability of vacuum" is indeed a "very tricky moment."
A while back High Voltage was linked to the operation of devices similar to Kapanadze, Ruslan and Stalker but a detailed
physics connection was vague at best. Ref:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&topic=4154.msg96356#msg96356 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&topic=4154.msg96356#msg96356)

Your conclusion may well be that missing link.

This video might also be of interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BOpiMQXQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BOpiMQXQA)
Thanks for sharing your insight and best regards,
SL

Greetings, SolarLab!

This is not my decision, these are Russian-speaking physicists who are engaged in science. I just took as a basis in the study.

If you are looking for an answer, where does the "additional energy" come from in the systems of electrostatic circuits, I will answer you "It is taken from a third-party electric field."

Quote from a high school physics textbook "One of the main ways of generating electric current in the body of a conductor is the creation and maintenance of an electric field in them (my editing around them)."

Ohm's law, (which for some reason is not fundamental). Ohm's law is mathematically expressed by the formula: I = λE, where: λ is the conductivity of the conductor material, then ρ = 1/λ, hence the well-known Ohm formula is derived: I = U/R

In physics, there is such a concept of EMF (E) as an “element of concentration”, used to describe the operation of galvanic sources. In a simple concept, you need a third-party source of EMF (E from the side) to maintain current in the conductor. The mathematical formula looks like this: I = λ(E+E from the side)

In conductors, there is such a thing as electrostatic induction. Where an external electric field immediately causes the polarization of the conductor. So, the mechanism of conductor polarization is a manifestation of the potential difference of the electric field at the ends of the conductor. Actually the same EMF (vortex electric field). I see no difference in the end result, with the appearance of EMF around the conductor through electromagnetic induction.

This device is just designed to create electrostatic induction with the formation of an EMF on the surface of a conductor stretched through it.

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&action=dlattach;topic=4154.0;attach=40758;image

That is, according to the abbreviation from the Kapanadze scheme - "current amplifier". I described the principle and physics above.

My simple version of the device according to this principle in the figure  https://strannik-2.ru/media/kunena/attachments/587/525258.jpg


This is the base, everything else is engineering creativity.

Sincerely.

PS
Formula:  E=mc^2,  can be read as follows, that a particle with a mass (m), upon reaching the speed of light squared (c^2), becomes light.




Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 08, 2022, 10:05:32 AM
Greetings, SolarLab!

This is not my decision, these are Russian-speaking physicists who are engaged in science. I just took as a basis in the study.

If you are looking for an answer, where does the "additional energy" come from in the systems of electrostatic circuits, I will answer you "It is taken from a third-party electric field."

Quote from a high school physics textbook "One of the main ways of generating electric current in the body of a conductor is the creation and maintenance of an electric field in them (my editing around them)."

Ohm's law, (which for some reason is not fundamental). Ohm's law is mathematically expressed by the formula: I = λE, where: λ is the conductivity of the conductor material, then ρ = 1/λ, hence the well-known Ohm formula is derived: I = U/R

In physics, there is such a concept of EMF (E) as an “element of concentration”, used to describe the operation of galvanic sources. In a simple concept, you need a third-party source of EMF (E from the side) to maintain current in the conductor. The mathematical formula looks like this: I = λ(E+E from the side)

In conductors, there is such a thing as electrostatic induction. Where an external electric field immediately causes the polarization of the conductor. So, the mechanism of conductor polarization is a manifestation of the potential difference of the electric field at the ends of the conductor. Actually the same EMF (vortex electric field). I see no difference in the end result, with the appearance of EMF around the conductor through electromagnetic induction.

This device is just designed to create electrostatic induction with the formation of an EMF on the surface of a conductor stretched through it.





Electrostatic induction is not OU. You have to maintain source charge to induce  exact opposite charge in conductor.
Tried this concept. It works, there is flow of current from the ground, but load on HV drive also rises.


Cheers,
Pix


PS. "Grenade" coil is just a transmission line. It is wound this way to squeeze certain length of conductor and minimise inductance.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 10:29:03 AM
Electrostatic induction is not OU. You have to maintain source charge to induce  exact opposite charge in conductor.
Tried this concept. It works, there is flow of current from the ground, but load on HV drive also rises.

Cheers,
Pix

PS. "Grenade" coil is just a transmission line. It is wound this way to squeeze certain length of conductor and minimise inductance.

pix,

In mechanics, there is such an effect - "exomechanical", when two sources of torque (static and dynamic) act on the same load. A crank press with a flywheel works on this principle. One trouble is not a constant action, but by periods of charge-discharge (it is on this principle that the "Earth Engine" installation of the Energy Inductance Company works.
The principle that I am describing provides for the low-cost creation of an electric field for a reactor, with electrostatic induction on a conductor closed in a circuit with a load. In my version, two circuits are connected into one. We get an analogy with mechanics.
I'm glad that you have your opinion, but I won't give up mine until I check it.
Earth in my version is needed only as a zero driver for a high-voltage circuit, but the system can work without earth at all.

Sincerely.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 08, 2022, 11:13:29 AM
pix,

In mechanics, there is such an effect - "exomechanical", when two sources of torque (static and dynamic) act on the same load. A crank press with a flywheel works on this principle. One trouble is not a constant action, but by periods of charge-discharge (it is on this principle that the "Earth Engine" installation of the Energy Inductance Company works.
The principle that I am describing provides for the low-cost creation of an electric field for a reactor, with electrostatic induction on a conductor closed in a circuit with a load. In my version, two circuits are connected into one. We get an analogy with mechanics.
I'm glad that you have your opinion, but I won't give up mine until I check it.
Earth in my version is needed only as a zero driver for a high-voltage circuit, but the system can work without earth at all.

Sincerely.
Attached mechanical equivalent to "Tesla" style energy accumulation. Resonator accumulates "low grade" energy into more useable.
There is no "free energy".
But a lot of "low grade non useable" energy around us that could be converted to useable.
Closed loop will not give you any OU. You need to have some source.
Those who do nod understand concept of a thermodynamic heat pump will not understand so called OU.



Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: kolbacict on June 08, 2022, 11:20:10 AM
They won't take us in, my friend Rakarsky, no matter how hard you try. :(
Among several billion people there is no place for the two of us.
Too many humiliating procedures to go through, even if it happens.
It is more difficult only, perhaps, to make a perpetual motion machine. ;D


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 11:24:07 AM
Attached mechanical equivalent to "Tesla" style energy accumulation. Resonator accumulates "low grade" energy into more useable.
There is no "free energy".
But a lot of "low grade non useable" energy around us that could be converted to useable.
Closed loop will not give you any OU. You need to have some source.
Those who do nod understand concept of a thermodynamic heat pump will not understand so called OU.

Cheers,
Pix

pix

everything is much simpler, we take the usual formula for kinetic energy:     Ek = 1/2mV^2

1)  Ek = 1/2 * 1 kg * 10 m/s ^2  = 50 J

2)  Ek = 1/2 * 1 kg * 50 m/s ^2  = 1250 J

we increased the speed by 5 times from the first option, and the energy increased by 25 times.


pix, so the whole secret of OU is speed!   ;) ;) ;)

PS

And with EMF, we have two speeds, the speed of the flow in Tesla [volt * second / square meter], and the rate of change of this flow around the conductor [Hz (number of times per second]!
Here's a puzzle for you to think about.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 08, 2022, 11:30:03 AM
pix

everything is much simpler, we take the usual formula for kinetic energy:     Ek = 1/2mV^2

1)  Ek = 1/2 * 1 kg * 10 m/s ^2  = 50 J

2)  Ek = 1/2 * 1 kg * 50 m/s ^2  = 1250 J

we increased the speed by 5 times from the first option, and the energy increased by 25 times.


pix, so the whole secret of OU is speed!   ;) ;) ;)
...and to increase speed of a given mass takes energy.
When you accelerate your car you increases your kinetic energy, but on the expense of fuel. :)


PS. Regarding Tesla resonator. Rate of change is constant, it is resonance of secondary. What matters is a constant influx of energy from primary that is trapped in secondary. Method of utilization of that "high grade trapped energy" may vary. Exact mechanical equivalent of such mechanism I did attached as pdf in my previous post. Tesla is a beautifull utilisation of low grade energy compressed into high grade useable one.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 12:12:09 PM
...and to increase speed of a given mass takes energy.
When you accelerate your car you increases your kinetic energy, but on the expense of fuel. :)


PS. Regarding Tesla resonator. Rate of change is constant, it is resonance of secondary. What matters is a constant influx of energy from primary that is trapped in secondary. Method of utilization of that "high grade trapped energy" may vary. Exact mechanical equivalent of such mechanism I did attached as pdf in my previous post. Tesla is a beautifull utilisation of low grade energy compressed into high grade useable one.

Oh pix, you are tricky, in your arguments you are similar to "an adherent of the Commission on Pseudoscience of Russian Ostriches" Do not be offended, I have seen enough of these adherents.

We consider the simplest crank press, drive power 8.5 kW at 800 rpm, torque 101 Nm.
The force on the press table develops at 10 kilonewtons, at 8 rpm of the crank shaft.
8:1 downshift torque will increase to 1 kN, (speed down, power up)!

In this case, the press develops a force of 10 kN eight times in 1 minute, while the motor makes 800 rpm. (time span 1 minute)
7.5 seconds per revolution, while the pressing action itself is up to 2 seconds.
2 seconds * 8 times/revolution = 16 seconds.
16/60 = 0.26 of a period of one minute.
10 kN * 8 * 0.26 = 20.8 kN.

And so with a decrease from the motor on the shaft of 1 kNm, and the press developed 20.8 kN, while doing the work of pressing 8 parts.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 12:27:39 PM
They won't take us in, my friend Rakarsky, no matter how hard you try. :(
Among several billion people there is no place for the two of us.
Too many humiliating procedures to go through, even if it happens.
It is more difficult only, perhaps, to make a perpetual motion machine. ;D

And who should take it? It's their problem, not mine. Everything goes according to plan.

I see they want to disable Holcomb's generators and invalidate them. It will be easier when people can make their own generators, which is what I'm striving for. And my arguments, some angry. I love to annoy the trolls out of the system.
There is an expression, it's nice to hear a lie when you know the truth. Messenger of lies, pitiful in your eyes.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 08, 2022, 03:52:23 PM
Oh pix, you are tricky, in your arguments you are similar to "an adherent of the Commission on Pseudoscience of Russian Ostriches" Do not be offended, I have seen enough of these adherents.

We consider the simplest crank press, drive power 8.5 kW at 800 rpm, torque 101 Nm.
The force on the press table develops at 10 kilonewtons, at 8 rpm of the crank shaft.
8:1 downshift torque will increase to 1 kN, (speed down, power up)!

In this case, the press develops a force of 10 kN eight times in 1 minute, while the motor makes 800 rpm. (time span 1 minute)
7.5 seconds per revolution, while the pressing action itself is up to 2 seconds.
2 seconds * 8 times/revolution = 16 seconds.
16/60 = 0.26 of a period of one minute.
10 kN * 8 * 0.26 = 20.8 kN.

And so with a decrease from the motor on the shaft of 1 kNm, and the press developed 20.8 kN, while doing the work of pressing 8 parts.
You described a simple machine. Leverage. No OU here.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 04:01:37 PM
You described a simple machine. Leverage. No OU here.

Result OU!
the input of force into the device is 101 Nm (costs are 8.5 kW), the output of the force that does the work is 20,000 N !
It is paradoxical that they did not ask: where from?

Good luck with your search for OU.  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 08, 2022, 04:41:55 PM
Result OU!
the input of force into the device is 101 Nm (costs are 8.5 kW), the output of the force that does the work is 20,000 N !
It is paradoxical that they did not ask: where from?

Good luck with your search for OU.  ;) :D
Wrong. Wrong.Wrong. :o


Power= (Torque x rev/min)/9559  [kW]


Your example input power :
Pin= (101[Nm] x 800 [1/min] )/9500 = 8,5 [kW]


Output power:
Pout = (10100 [Nm] x 8[1/min])/9500 = 8,5 [kW]


Of course taking mechanical losses COP<1.
You will not get OU from leveraging simple machine  :D


Cheers,
Pix



Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 04:55:46 PM
Quote
Your example input power :
Pin= (101[Nm] x 800 [1/min] )/9500 = 8,5 [kW]
Output power:
Pout = (10100 [Nm] x 8[1/min])/9500 = 8,5 [kW]

Resulting force on the shaft work 20000 [N] 

quite a bit more, probably the engineers should not have bothered installing the flywheel.

Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 08, 2022, 05:34:09 PM
Resulting force on the shaft work 20000 [N] 

quite a bit more, probably the engineers should not have bothered installing the flywheel.


It does not matter. Calculation based on your data.
Simple machine. Leverage of torque. COP<1.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 08, 2022, 09:56:21 PM

It does not matter. Calculation based on your data.
Simple machine. Leverage of torque. COP<1.


Cheers,
Pix

Agree, this example fails. We take real abs, not my fantasies!

Quote
Specifications KD2128E (https://www.prostanki.com/board/item/335803)
Single-crank press, single-acting, open, non-tilting KD2128E Designed for the manufacture of parts from sheet material using cold stamping operations: punching, hole punching, bending, shallow drawing, etc. It is used in procurement workshops of enterprises in the automotive, tractor, instrument-making, radio-electronic and other industries with large-scale and mass production.

Model kd2128e
Start of series production 1984
Rated force, kN 630
Slider stroke, mm 100
Distance between table and slider, mm 340
Distance between table and slider, mm 340
Power of the engine of the main movement of kW 6,3
Table size width/length mm 480/710
Machine dimensions Length Width Height (mm) 1500_1690_2890
Weight kg 5400

Good luck deciding that here is efficiency <1
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: SolarLab on June 08, 2022, 10:07:13 PM
Greetings, SolarLab!

This is not my decision, these are Russian-speaking physicists who are engaged in science. I just took as a basis in the study.

If you are looking for an answer, where does the "additional energy" come from in the systems of electrostatic circuits, I will answer you "It is taken from a third-party electric field."

Quote from a high school physics textbook "One of the main ways of generating electric current in the body of a conductor is the creation and maintenance of an electric field in them (my editing around them)."

Ohm's law, (which for some reason is not fundamental). Ohm's law is mathematically expressed by the formula: I = λE, where: λ is the conductivity of the conductor material, then ρ = 1/λ, hence the well-known Ohm formula is derived: I = U/R

In physics, there is such a concept of EMF (E) as an “element of concentration”, used to describe the operation of galvanic sources. In a simple concept, you need a third-party source of EMF (E from the side) to maintain current in the conductor. The mathematical formula looks like this: I = λ(E+E from the side)

In conductors, there is such a thing as electrostatic induction. Where an external electric field immediately causes the polarization of the conductor. So, the mechanism of conductor polarization is a manifestation of the potential difference of the electric field at the ends of the conductor. Actually the same EMF (vortex electric field). I see no difference in the end result, with the appearance of EMF around the conductor through electromagnetic induction.

This device is just designed to create electrostatic induction with the formation of an EMF on the surface of a conductor stretched through it.

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&action=dlattach;topic=4154.0;attach=40758;image (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=tkjqdoee4vq0ppjto421pt59q6&action=dlattach;topic=4154.0;attach=40758;image)

That is, according to the abbreviation from the Kapanadze scheme - "current amplifier". I described the principle and physics above.

My simple version of the device according to this principle in the figure  https://strannik-2.ru/media/kunena/attachments/587/525258.jpg (https://strannik-2.ru/media/kunena/attachments/587/525258.jpg)


This is the base, everything else is engineering creativity.

Sincerely.

PS
Formula:  E=mc^2,  can be read as follows, that a particle with a mass (m), upon reaching the speed of light squared (c^2), becomes light.

Hello Rakarskiy,    (this will be very brief since it's somewhat off topic)

The Ruslan Generator (Kapanadze device) has been the subject of analysis for a long time - documented in one form or another as far back as 12/08/16.
For a bit more information on the project see the attached pdf.

My approach in attempting to explain the "excess energy" focused on a "Travelling Wave Tube" analogy since I have some experience that area. Whether correct or not, I concluded the extra energy was formed by a pseudo "Velocity Modulation" phenomena based on E=mv2 (electron energy increases by the square of it's velocity - as shown in the video referenced above) and electron bunching.


High voltage pulses were generated by a Tesla or Katcher coil and when propagated around the Grenade coil and, with proper timing and physical spacing, caused an excess energy within the system.  A protoype seemed to demonstrate this postulation since HV and physical adjustments followed closely with some very preliminary CAE analysis.

However the system was highly resonant (easily disturbed by even hand waving) and it appeared to be very subject to Atmospheric Electric activity (a thunderstorm even 200 miles away caused the system to become unstable).  A work-around or fix is yet to be determined.

The exact "coupling mechanism" physics is still uncertain, to me at least.

Regards,
SL
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 09, 2022, 08:34:19 AM

The exact "coupling mechanism" physics is still uncertain, to me at least.


Hello SolarLab!

This is the most important question, how one kind of "energy" accelerates another kind of "energy". An electromagnetic circuit consists of two types of fields: an electric field and a magnetic field. There are no electrons there, these are two states of plasma, a structured ether in a state of a force field. The plasma of the magnetic field and the electric field has a manifestation in different, visible to us and invisible, spectra

Unfortunately, many do not even understand the difference between electromagnetic induction and interturn mutual induction. Ideas about the difference between the flux linkage of electric and magnetic fields. Even Faraday began his research with mutual induction, so the generator came up with an incognito with the initials P.M., who clearly understood or knew the difference.

How does the generator circuit work with a load, how does the circuit work when a transformer is inserted between the generator and the load?

I can say with a 100% guarantee that the electromagnetic induction of the generator winding, closed in a circuit with a load, works by analogy with a hydroelectric power plant system. When the blade absorbs the velocity of the water head (that is, the speed of the turbine blade must be half the velocity of the water jet from the nozzle that presses on the blade in order to obtain the corresponding force on the turbine shaft)

For the operation of a closed circuit of an electrical circuit: generator-load, the same alignment. Only the electrical parameter of the EMF is absorbed. The transformer has a different adjustment, it is calculated by the formula for bringing the load of the secondary circuit to the AC source of the primary circuit. The source of the primary circuit operates according to the generator circuit rule. Again, the circle is closed, I especially like the "chatter of general science" about the magnetic field in the core, at the moment of maximum current of the primary and secondary circuits.

The trouble for many is that they simply ignore the concepts of how the circuit works with the load and the source - the generator phase. Where CURRENT POWER (a vortex magnetic field that rotates rather than flows) is the result of balancing the potentials of the electric field, at the moment of balancing becomes a vortex around the conductor. This plasma of magnetic and electric vortex fields can be seen in a spark gap or electric arc. Perhaps this is the key point that changed my worldview about electromagnetism.
These questions are on the subject of the Holcomb generator, because if you ignore it, you are guaranteed to stumble upon a wall of paradoxes and misunderstandings.

According to the instrument of Ruslan Kalabukhov. The device is an option when the electric potential of the secondary circuit of the Tesla transformer tries to illuminate the electric field in a complex inter-turn converter (Garnet), while transferring "energy" from the primary circuit to the secondary circuit with a reinforcing element. That is, according to the formula I = λ (E + E from the side), they try to add the sides E[/glow ] + E of the source[ /b].

My opinion is that this method is too slippery, since it is not clear which moment is effective, is it utopia to combine mutual induction and induction in one section of the wire? . The main thing that I don't like is the transposed electric field of the secondary circuit of the Tesla transformer, I don't understand how the concentration process will take place? The concentration process is effective in a direct or pulsed current circuit. Second: LOAD of the secondary circuit, only fixed, destroys the process when the load changes. Thirdly: the Tesla transformer emitter in this version has an open field, that is, external communication can also affect. I do not consider this version successful.

My idea is to make an impulse system based on this principle. The only task left is to make the static electric field around the conductor move according to the vortex model. I think that there is one more thing that I need to think about thoroughly - the Zatsarinin transformer and the inductive-capacitive transformer. I worked with it and came to an approximate understanding of the picture. I will deal with this later.

At the moment,  is busy with a pulse electromagnetic static converter, it is simpler. Can be repeated by any craftsman in the garage with a minimum of training.

Sincerely.
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: pix on June 09, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Agree, this example fails. We take real abs, not my fantasies!

Good luck deciding that here is efficiency <1
Are you kidding, right?
Please stop trying to convince me that simple machanical machine that utilizes torque leverage has COP>1.
EOT.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 09, 2022, 09:57:18 AM
Are you kidding, right?
Please stop trying to convince me that simple machanical machine that utilizes torque leverage has COP>1.
EOT.

Cheers,
Pix

Hello pix!

Absolutely no joke, these are the parameters of a real machine. There are also stone crushers. You, do not be surprised if the air conditioner has an efficiency greater than one.
In addition to the levers, there is a flywheel and an impulse kinematic chain. The effect it works on is called EXOMECHANICAL

https://rakarskiy.livejournal.com/12789.html
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Sincerely
Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: SolarLab on June 09, 2022, 09:07:36 PM
Hi rakarskiy,

Sorry but I have completely failed to understand your physics link between HV pulses and the increased energy in the Ruslan Generator type circuit.

For now I'll stick with the hypothesis focused around a pseudo TWT Velocity Modulation - used in Travelling Wave Tube design and can be simulated in CAE. Also, one of the original TWT patents had the HV run along the outside of the helical coil and claimed a power gain. Lots of good theory, applications and development information is available as well.

Will attemp to attach a pdf re: TWT Symposium with some good technical stuff to support my theoretical approach - 12MB so it might not work however.

Regards,

SL

FYI: Go to the last presentation [CST - Monika Balk] for insight into how the Ruslan/TWT integration fits CAE simulation.


Title: Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
Post by: rakarskiy on June 09, 2022, 10:12:20 PM
Hi rakarskiy,

Sorry but I have completely failed to understand your physics link between HV pulses and the increased energy in the Ruslan Generator type circuit.

Hi SolarLab!

I have no accumulated information on technology, only sketches. In a simple variant, if we take the pulse circuit of a single-cycle converter, and apply a resistance of 2-5 kΩ in series with the diode to the primary coil, where the diode shunts the circuit, the electric field of self-induction that occurs will be high. In the secondary circuit, the current will be greater than with a conventional pulse. The reason is the electric field, which stimulates the induction of the secondary circuit from the magnetic field.
I don't know if there is such a technology somewhere, but I tried it. True, he abandoned it, postponing it for the