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Offline NickZ

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2020, 04:59:25 PM »
   If you do go, bring your tea and cups, while watching the device warm the water up.
    IF I COULD GO, BELIEVE ME,  I WOULD.

    NZ   

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« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2020, 04:59:25 PM »

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« Reply #106 on: October 27, 2020, 05:10:07 PM »
are you talking about a so called Капанадзе device? To start with you don#t have much if any build information
like coil winding details and the alarming thing is it has no way of generating or accelerating electrons or ions, 
or any other published extra collection method. I'm saying that we don't know what the modified CFL
device does nor are we likely to, fun ain it.

AG
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 11:49:55 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #107 on: October 27, 2020, 05:37:57 PM »
I would if I could. But, I don't see any free electrons, nor free energy of any kind by the use of a Tesla coil/Kacher circuit, by itself.   Nor have I seen a Kacher self running. Which makes me wonder why after all these years, if they are the source of free electrons.   We have been using the reverse windings on the HV Kacher's balun, and also on the grenade coils, for years. Nothing to show for it, so far. 

FE is closer to you than you think. I have done FE many times to see that it exists, possibly you did it too just didn't understand it. Everyone has it before their eyes. Let me say more, you think that's not it! I have been dealing with the subject for several years to understand what I saw in the first year.
It is so trivial that I'm afraid if I told you you wouldn't be taking me seriously. That's why I prefer to wait. I know you are nervous because time passes and nobody wants to say anything.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 08:59:40 PM by r2fpl »

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #107 on: October 27, 2020, 05:37:57 PM »
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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2020, 07:04:45 PM »
Hi Void
When i had first looked at it i wondered the same. But then, i realized that they don't back at all.
The reason is that they step on different nodal points over the long tesla coils and when current is
induced to one of the thick coils, the other is inducing voltage. They would be bucking coils only if
they were inducing current the same time at the opposite direction.

Hello Jeg. Those are interesting ideas. If Bunk and Guglodrom don't give any further details, then
all a person can do is try some different approaches and see what the result is. :)


Void,
1. If secondary is partnered coil, it will yield always zero, no matter how you drive it.
2. If that driving module is 12V input, in whole device there are no circuitry which
steps down voltage to 12 V for driving module to operate.
It can work only if driving module is 220V input.
Those are 2 things which bothers me around that device I saw in clips.
??

Hello v8karlo. In the 'all in one' circuit, I don't think it is self-looped, so the battery
is not being charged. In the 'Monster' circuit, I am not certain if they are self-looping it,
but they have added some other circuitry, so it may possibly be stepping down the output voltage
down to the required DC voltage for charging the drill battery they are using.


Have you any idea what the voltage output would be (open circuit/ unloaded) at amplifiers like in the attached image?
https://www.k-po.com/RM-KL-405-V.2.html?last=10

Hi Jeg.  Not sure about the open circuit/unloaded voltage, but amplifiers like that may have problems if you don't have a load connected,
due to the reflected power back to the transistors. You could blow the output transisitors, if the amplifier doesn't have protection circuitry.

For a 50 ohm resistive load:
If you take the peak output power of that amplifier as 200W (when amplifying a complex waveform, like for AM/FM)),
and use a resistive load of 50 ohms (equipment for ham radio use is typically designed to work into a 50 ohm load),
then you would have:
P = V^2/R  (assuming a purely resistive load)
200 = V^2 / 50
10000 = V^2
V = sqrt(10000)
V = 100V RMS (when driving a 50 ohm resistive load, and assuming a sinewave)

If you can run 400W into a 50 ohm resistive load (that little HF amplifier will probably overheat),
then the output voltage on a 50 ohm resistive load would be: 141.42V RMS.
 

So guys, call Bunk, and get some help with this. Or don't, it's up to you.
But, that's what I would do. Maybe go and meet with him, if possible. Or watch this device fade out, like all the others have.
    NickZ

That would be great if they are willing to cooperate with other people that way.


R2fpl: I wish you good luck!


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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2020, 08:38:54 PM »
R2fpl: I wish you good luck!

Void - you don't have to wish me luck because the results largely take time for testing, but luck would also come in handy :)


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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2020, 01:11:14 AM »
FE is closer to you than you think. I have done FE many times to see that it exists, possibly you did it too just didn't understand it. Everyone has it before their eyes. Let me say more, you think that's not it! I have been dealing with the subject for several years to understand what I saw in the first year.
It is so trivial that I'm afraid if I told you you wouldn't be taking me seriously. That's why I prefer to wait. I know you are nervous because time passes and nobody wants to say anything.

   r2fpl:
   If it's so trivial, it's not self running, nor even OU. As that is not trivial.
   Sorry r2fpl, but I don't believe that you have FE, nor OU, nor have ever seen anything self running. Please show us. Don't just expect us to just believe you. As there is not a single person on this forum that has what you say that you have, or claim to have seen. And therefore my doubts about your statements. And so, you're right, I don't take you seriously.   It's not that I'm "nervous", but I am leary of these unsubstantiated claims. As we've heard them all before.   IF you have nothing to show, then don't expect anyone to believe you, when you say what you just said. Even though you may be a nice guy, and I do appreciate your positive attitude.
   
   NickZ

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2020, 07:24:13 AM »


Imagine huge potential difference between Tesla coil top and ground.

Electrons are "sucked" from the ground. It is resonant amplifier that collects energy during every swing. With every push from primary more inertia is building up in secondary, as voltage is rising on Tesla coil top, and current is rising at the ground node. Frequency of pendulum oscillations do not depends from the mass of pendulum.
It is like during every push for mechanical pendulum, mass of the oscillating weight is increasing. You started with, let's say 0,1 kg mass on pendulum, and after some time the swinging mass has 1 kg. Energy is collected in the swinging pendulum, but frequency (resonant) is the same.
 Do you see now?



   V8Karlo:   I would if I could. But, I don't see any free electrons, nor free energy of any kind by the use of a Tesla coil/Kacher circuit, by itself.   Nor have I seen a Kacher self running. Which makes me wonder why after all these years, if they are the source of free electrons.   We have been using the reverse windings on the HV Kacher's balun, and also on the grenade coils, for years. Nothing to show for it, so far.   I have a feeling that we'll see this device go the same route as the Roma (Poma) device. As no one can get it working right.   So guys, call Bunk, and get some help with this. Or don't, it's up to you.
But, that's what I would do. Maybe go and meet with him, if possible. Or watch this device fade out, like all the others have.

    NickZ

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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2020, 07:24:13 AM »
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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2020, 08:43:00 AM »
pix , NickZ


That's why I wrote that you see it and do not understand. What PIX wrote is your FE. Now why can't you have it? Because we don't know the method of receiving this energy. Kapanadze found a way to pick it up, but it's more of a method of connecting current than receiving. Interoperability is also possible. Here it is helpful to understand how the electron works and why the voltage and current are increasing or not.

Nick: did you understand how the Tesla Coil works? and what it gives us. And most importantly where the energy comes from.
I have 100% proof that the FE is there because I did tests that there is voltage and current! All you need is an oscilloscope and a current probe that you surely have.

Another important point is how to start the Tesla coil inductor. If you are using the kacher it is obvious you have never seen FE.
If you want, I can tell you what you have to do to see FE. Maybe the group on Skype we will create will be helpful?

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2020, 09:48:23 AM »

@r2fpl
The simplest way to extract energy from Tesla without disturbing resonance is by spark from top terminal. Tariel Kapanadze used it in Turkey demonstration. Movies are on YT. Spark from Tesla top goes to the ground by HV step down air transformer.
Driving Tesla coil- like Tesla said: loose coupling between primary and secondary at the  node ("ground")level, where  the current is.
To make coupling even looser, an extra "third" coil was used.


pix , NickZ


That's why I wrote that you see it and do not understand. What PIX wrote is your FE. Now why can't you have it? Because we don't know the method of receiving this energy. Kapanadze found a way to pick it up, but it's more of a method of connecting current than receiving. Interoperability is also possible. Here it is helpful to understand how the electron works and why the voltage and current are increasing or not.

Nick: did you understand how the Tesla Coil works? and what it gives us. And most importantly where the energy comes from.
I have 100% proof that the FE is there because I did tests that there is voltage and current! All you need is an oscilloscope and a current probe that you surely have.

Another important point is how to start the Tesla coil inductor. If you are using the kacher it is obvious you have never seen FE.
If you want, I can tell you what you have to do to see FE. Maybe the group on Skype we will create will be helpful?

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« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2020, 09:48:23 AM »
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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2020, 11:13:30 AM »
Hi Jeg.  Not sure about the open circuit/unloaded voltage, but amplifiers like that may have problems if you don't have a load connected,
due to the reflected power back to the transistors. You could blow the output transisitors, if the amplifier doesn't have protection circuitry.

For a 50 ohm resistive load:
If you take the peak output power of that amplifier as 200W (when amplifying a complex waveform, like for AM/FM)),
and use a resistive load of 50 ohms (equipment for ham radio use is typically designed to work into a 50 ohm load),
then you would have:
P = V^2/R  (assuming a purely resistive load)
200 = V^2 / 50
10000 = V^2
V = sqrt(10000)
V = 100V RMS (when driving a 50 ohm resistive load, and assuming a sinewave)

If you can run 400W into a 50 ohm resistive load (that little HF amplifier will probably overheat),
then the output voltage on a 50 ohm resistive load would be: 141.42V RMS.


Hi Void
Thanks a lot for your answer. May i ask one more question. Does this 50 ohm load resistor, also contains the reactance of the load or is it just the ohmic part?

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2020, 01:57:00 PM »
Hi Void
Thanks a lot for your answer. May i ask one more question. Does this 50 ohm load resistor, also contains the reactance of the load or is it just the ohmic part?

Hi Jeg, the calculation was assuming a purely resistive load (no reactance).
If there is some reactance, then you can can potentially get higher voltage swings across the load.

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« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2020, 02:08:55 PM »
I have 100% proof that the FE is there because I did tests that there is voltage and current! All you need is an oscilloscope and a current probe that you surely have.

Hi r2fpl. In a resonant coil with no load attached, you can see large voltage and current swings,
but the voltage and current are out of phase. When you attach a resistive load to the resonant coil,
the resonant voltage and current peaks drop considerably and the voltage and current across the resistor
will be in phase. When the voltage and current are approximately 90 degrees out of phase in a resonant
coil, that is called imaginary power or reactive power. It is not real power. The only actual power being consumed
is due to the resistance in the wire which is used to make the coil. To be able to pull real power off a
resonant coil without destroying the resonance is like trying to find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Leprechauns like Kapanadze and Akula have claimed to have found that magic pot of gold,  but it remains to
be independently confirmed if they really did achieve that or not. :)


@r2fpl
The simplest way to extract energy from Tesla without disturbing resonance is by spark from top terminal. Tariel Kapanadze used it in Turkey demonstration. Movies are on YT. Spark from Tesla top goes to the ground by HV step down air transformer.
Driving Tesla coil- like Tesla said: loose coupling between primary and secondary at the  node ("ground")level, where  the current is.
To make coupling even looser, an extra "third" coil was used.

Hi pix. We have mountains of theories here. The only thing that really counts is if a person
can actually demonstrate that a theory really works with a real circuit demonstration. 


Bunk and Gulodrom don't appear to be using natural coil resonance in their circuit, otherwise it seems to
me their circuit would be very sensitive to going 'out of tune' when they placed their hands close to the long coil,
or when they connected different loads to the output coil. Also, I have seen no indications so far that their circuits
are producing high voltages in the kV range. No sign of corona or arcing seen...


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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2020, 02:16:42 PM »

Imagine huge potential difference between Tesla coil top and ground.

Electrons are "sucked" from the ground. It is resonant amplifier that collects energy during every swing. With every push from primary more inertia is building up in secondary, as voltage is rising on Tesla coil top, and current is rising at the ground node. Frequency of pendulum oscillations do not depends from the mass of pendulum.
It is like during every push for mechanical pendulum, mass of the oscillating weight is increasing. You started with, let's say 0,1 kg mass on pendulum, and after some time the swinging mass has 1 kg. Energy is collected in the swinging pendulum, but frequency (resonant) is the same.
 Do you see now?


   You guys will never convince me by repeating what you've heard. SHOW ME the FE that you are just talking about. As if I've never heard of it. Words are cheap, and you guys have never ever actually built anything at all that self runs, or even OU.
  So, no I don't SEE anything from you two guys showing us all how well you can build a self running device. Just talk won't cut it.Put your cards on the table. We don't need more theories, even if they are correct, we need self running machines.
   NickZ

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Re: Капанадзе
« Reply #118 on: October 28, 2020, 02:18:13 PM »
To be able to pull real power off a resonant coil without destroying the resonance is like trying to find the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Leprechauns like Kapanadze and Akula have claimed to have found that magic pot of gold,  but it remains to
be independently confirmed if they really did achieve that or not. :)

Over 2000 posts and you still continue to deny the obvious. Seems pretty clear why Rick calls you "Void of truth"!


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« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2020, 02:21:21 PM »
Over 2000 posts and you still continue to deny the obvious. Seems pretty clear why Rick calls you "Void of truth"!

 :o ;D

 

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