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Title: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 20, 2020, 09:25:53 PM
https://yadi.sk/d/ZMBMryvXV1OXqg?w=1
New device in  town

First 2.5kw
Second 6kw
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 20, 2020, 10:40:42 PM
It looks like bucking coils on HV Tesla secondary.


Chris will be happy.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 20, 2020, 10:45:18 PM
I am in contact with him ,helping together

Any idea on the drivers used,I know it is CFL driver,but this different. From other can someone. Find it
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: forest on October 21, 2020, 05:11:06 PM
Looks like Daniel McFarland Cook principle
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 21, 2020, 10:54:29 PM
I am curious?


Bucking coils is output and secondary.
If the bucking coil is secondary it will always yield zero output,
no matter how you drive it.


So, I am not sure that it is connected like this claim.


If it works, there is more to it than this.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 22, 2020, 08:49:25 AM
Nice find as always justawatt! We really needed it!


Bucking coils is output and secondary.
If the bucking coil is secondary it will always yield zero output,
no matter how you drive it.


karlos, you are very right on this. It might needs a capacitor at the output for transforming RF to current. It is the same as Roma's Grin device.  ;)

ps. some looking similar driver boards
https://ineedparts.eu/products/lamp-driver-board-ballast-euc-310f-h-a06-price-benq-mx766
https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/eval6574b.html
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 22, 2020, 01:46:59 PM
thanks jeg
will update when some thing comes up, they where made pissed up by the group saying it is fake, but thank god they are still posting things up.
next they have promised 40 kw
haha lets wait and see ,
all the update will be added in the link i have posted ,see if any updates come they will add in that.

save the link and download and keep it
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 22, 2020, 03:46:33 PM
The. Driver  could be uv ballast


https://www.z-e-d.com/en/products/electronic-ballasts/ballasts-for-low-pressure-lamps/ballasts/power-supplies-5-200w/e40ph-24v
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 22, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
Nice find as always justawatt! We really needed it!

karlos, you are very right on this. It might needs a capacitor at the output for transforming RF to current. It is the same as Roma's Grin device.  ;)

ps. some looking similar driver boards
https://ineedparts.eu/products/lamp-driver-board-ballast-euc-310f-h-a06-price-benq-mx766 (https://ineedparts.eu/products/lamp-driver-board-ballast-euc-310f-h-a06-price-benq-mx766)
https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/eval6574b.html (https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/eval6574b.html)
   Jeg:
   Yes, nice find, agreed. And it does seam similar the Roma or Poma device, as well as some others that were shown to self run.
   From the sound of the old guys voice, this thing is for real, and he is not just another con artist. And also from the sound of his voice, he also sounds like a Slav, that also knows about this type of FE device, as did TK. 
But, WHY is that? Where does this knowledge all come from???
   It's the mode of operation that is common in all these devices. Which is what we need to replicate properly.   You can see that they are making these contraptions up using old junk parts, just like TK did when he started.
   To see these videos, gives me faith, once again. Now that Akula, and Adrian, are dead, and Stalker is not showing anything related with FE, and Ruslan is selling fake devices. This has all thrown quite a monkey wrench into our wheels. But, it may be time to turn that all around...
   

   NickZ
   
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 22, 2020, 06:05:12 PM
....they where made pissed up by the group saying it is fake,

Old times classic! :D

  But, WHY is that? Where does this knowledge all come from???

From hard experimentation my friend. There is no other way out!

As everything point out, a simple Katcher can do the dirty work.
I think i 'll clean my katchers again for a new round!!! :D
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 22, 2020, 06:53:45 PM
This group say it is leaked from  kapanadze
Any guess on gauge of wire used
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 22, 2020, 08:34:07 PM
Any guess on gauge of wire used

Approximately, Telsa coil's wire looks like about 0.8mm
Second tube looks like 2.5mm, and the very thick wire 6-10mm??? Something like that.
The tubes look like 4cm in diam.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 22, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Cardboard pipes with a diameter of 57mm, yellow-green wire 4mm^2. Kacher-light wire d=0.31 mm, dark wire d=0.5 mm
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 22, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Wire diameters were given by Bunk (the author of the installation) He said that the kacher needs to be wound with different wires.So the output power is higher.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 23, 2020, 01:34:02 AM
This group say it is leaked from  kapanadze
Any guess on gauge of wire used


If it is leaking from Kapanadze? that means that more than
one individual or groups know how Kapanadze works!


And it means that is spreading amongst friends or groups,
slowly without internet.


And that is good news, not the device itself!


If it is spreading, it will come to all of us in time,
and there is no way to stop it.


Very good.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 23, 2020, 08:46:33 AM
This group says akula got info from kapanadze ,and from akula through. Oleg Ruslan got,but later akula device stopped working  so German company approached  Ruslan and  they made agreement  with them.so that is why he doesn't  post newvideo now
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 23, 2020, 10:46:41 AM
Wire diameters were given by Bunk (the author of the installation) He said that the kacher needs to be wound with different wires.So the output power is higher.
Thanks for your contribution. Can we find out if there is any gap between the two wires of Katcher? And also if the winding direction is the same for both of the wires.

By changing wire diameter we introduce a point through which the imbedance changes. This by itself will produce reflections and so standing waves and voltage rise and probably modulation. I have seen it again when using the same wire but with a small gap somewhere in the way. I.e at 1/3 of the coil.
Regards
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 11:49:08 AM
I don't know about connecting the kacher wires. Wire winding in one direction.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 23, 2020, 01:23:39 PM
the wire size is wrong
in 2.5kw
winding is clockwise and anticlockwise and output on it will be anticlockwise and clockwise ,
look carefully.
 
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 01:31:34 PM
The kacher wires are of different diameters and wound in one direction. This is the answer of the device's author.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 23, 2020, 01:48:45 PM
the wire size is wrong
in 2.5kw
winding is clockwise and anticlockwise and output on it will be anticlockwise and clockwise ,
look carefully.
 

Good eyes! Is it easy for you to attach an image for that? I still can't understand which device outputs what.
The long pipe with the 4mm wire is one shot cw. In this same device, the kacher coil has been divided in four sections, the last section is of the bigger diameter wire.

The kacher wires are of different diameters and wound in one direction. This is the answer of the device's author.

Thanks niyazzi!
Is it possible to find out if there is a capacitor in series, in the middle of the two thick output wires?
I think this is the only unknown variable for this device. Look at the attached image.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 23, 2020, 02:26:47 PM
It's the mode of operation that is common in all these devices Which is what we need to replicate properly.

https://youtu.be/pJ36EtABLAk (https://youtu.be/pJ36EtABLAk)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=charging+by+electrostatic+induction (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=charging+by+electrostatic+induction)

https://youtu.be/yLjt3y1_ceY?t=4039 (https://youtu.be/yLjt3y1_ceY?t=4039)

https://youtu.be/HupFY_24o-4 (https://youtu.be/HupFY_24o-4)

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 03:21:04 PM
I don't know anything about the capacitor. Bunk said the two patents were related to his device
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 23, 2020, 03:24:38 PM
This group says akula got info from kapanadze ,and from akula through. Oleg Ruslan got,but later akula device stopped working  so German company approached  Ruslan and  they made agreement  with them.so that is why he doesn't  post newvideo now
   Guys:
   What has probably been happening, is that the inventors of any of these self running devices are being approached and told to stop. Like Tariel has mentioned had happened to him. Their devices are being bought up, or just taken, on account of national security, so that those self running device will not even see the light of day. Nor will guys like Akula, nor Adrian.
   Nice free world we live in...and perhaps they are now being told to continue building, but fakes instead, to distract us all for as long as possible. Should that surprise us?
   However, Tariel Kapanadze is still at it, showing more new stuff this whole time. And it's all shown working, or at least, so it SEAMS.   
   Oleg was Ruslan's actual circuit builder. As Ruslan can barely solder. And, Oleg, is still around, I think, and possibly available for hire. IF he didn't get some unexpected visits,  as well.   I wish that one of you Russian speaking guys would take the time, even now with this CoronaV thing going on, and go and see some of these guys. Like Stalker, Oleg, and others, before they are all 6 feet underground.
Otherwise, well, you know... this could all take a while longer to reach our goals.
Or, just wait, and buy one from the "German" company that has Ruslan's devices, now.Or the year after, when China gets a hold of it. You'll see it on ebay,  MADE IN CHINA There's way too many of them, to try and kill off... may not be cost effective...

   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 23, 2020, 04:42:06 PM
The German guy's name is Arthur I think.
I have contacted him some times back.
His or his organisation own this technology
Of akula steveno. But they where forced to shutdown
Their operations in 2018.
So we won't see it any time soon.

Iong time back I was in contact with kapandaze group
The 5 kw device video was leaked by me sometimes back.
Kapandaz is still active.
Soon there will be a video out on his device.


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 05:20:08 PM
This group says akula got info from kapanadze ,and from akula through. Oleg Ruslan got,but later akula device stopped working  so German company approached  Ruslan and  they made agreement  with them.so that is why he doesn't  post newvideo now

Hi justawatt. Interesting. Here we go again...  ;D
Is this device being discussed in a Russian or other discussion group somewhere?

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 23, 2020, 08:09:13 PM
Hi void
Yes but no point I think ,like every group everyone  is saying this is fake .
But they are posting things up

Ask niyazzi.

i have never seen him here till i have posted things from that group .he is from that group
Who are u really
Are u spy ,and do you work for them
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 08:38:42 PM

Hi justawatt. Niyazzi seems to be trying to help. If he speaks Russian, that can be very helpful
for translations here. This device looks interesting, somewhat similar to the Roma Gritz device.
During the Summer and Spring I am too busy for electronics experimentation, but now that winter is
coming I plan to get back to this type of experimentation soon. Based on previous experience, I am kind of
skeptical of these new types of setups that appear from time to time, but I still have hope. :) You never know,
until we know for sure otherwise, there might possibly be something to this type of arrangement.
It is fun experimenting with this type of stuff however, even if it doesn't end up producing OU.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 08:47:47 PM
I'm just like all of you. I want to know how the Kapanadze generator works. I saw on your site an interest in installing the Bunc. The drawing in the v8karlo post is correct. I just added the missing wire sizes. Maybe this will help someone. The author of the Bunk installation secret does not disclose. I don't speak English, I use machine translation, and I apologize if there are any inaccuracies.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 08:50:35 PM
I'm just like all of you. I want to know how the Kapanadze generator works. I saw on your site an interest in installing the Bunc. The drawing in the v8karlo post is correct. I just added the missing wire sizes. Maybe this will help someone. The author of the Bunk installation secret does not disclose. I don't speak English, I use machine translation, and I apologize if there are any inaccuracies.

Thanks niyazzi. Your English translation here is fine. Can you understand Russian?
All the best...
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 09:00:31 PM
Bunk showed two installations. The first one was called "all in one" and produced a power of 2.5 kW. The second (with two coils) was called "Monster" and gave out a power of 6kW. It seems to me that the "all in one" reel and the kacher in "monster" are the same thing.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 09:02:44 PM
Of course I understand. I'm from Russia.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 09:15:17 PM
Of course I understand. I'm from Russia.

Nice to see you here niyazzi.
When I get a chance, I will try to build one of these setups, but still not sure about
the details of how they are driving the tesla coil. It appears they use a step up
device such as a CFL driver module to drive the tesla coil primary with high voltage pulses,
rather than driving the tesla coil primary with lower voltage like 12V or 24V.
I need to take a closer look however.


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
 New video from the Bunk. Here he laughs at those who do not believe in the reality of the installation. I can't insert the video.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 09:47:50 PM
Hello niyazzi. Thanks. It looks like that web link is not working.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 09:59:40 PM
I'm trying to upload an archived video, but I can't. https://cloud.mail.ru/stock/3Hi8FKBC6k66vyADq3NU4Vf4
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 10:08:12 PM
Thanks Niyazzi. The new web link is working. I can view the video now.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 10:11:05 PM
Nice to see you here niyazzi.
When I get a chance, I will try to build one of these setups, but still not sure about
the details of how they are driving the tesla coil. It appears they use a step up
device such as a CFL driver module to drive the tesla coil primary with high voltage pulses,
rather than driving the tesla coil primary with lower voltage like 12V or 24V.
I need to take a closer look however.
[/quoteIf you look closely at the photo of the CFL driver, you will not see the transistors provided by the circuit. They are soldered. One additional transistor and a choke are added to the circuit. It is safe to say that only part of the driver scheme is used. But He didn't say anything about it.]
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 10:18:03 PM
If you look closely at the photo of the CFL driver, you will not see the transistors provided by the circuit. They are soldered. One additional transistor and a choke are added to the circuit. It is safe to say that only part of the driver scheme is used. But He didn't say anything about it.]

Hello Niyazzi. Yes, thanks, I noticed that. I would guess he uses the output voltage of the driver
circuit as the voltage source, say 100 to 200 Volts DC output or so, and uses the external transistor
to switch that voltage to drive the tesla coil primary winding, similar to a kacher type driver.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 23, 2020, 10:25:19 PM
Hi
Niyazzi
Sorry being so rude. I have seen you in that group
And now seeing here was a surprise.

The gauge bunk said was wrong.
0.3 means it is 30 swg. And
O.5 means it is 25-26 swg

But when I checked it winding shop they said it
Might be around 24 swg and 28 swg

And can you confirm the driver they have used
It is not cfl ballast circuit.
I have tested my self the winding was same.
But didn't get any output has they claimed for
2.5kw
Those are not cfl ballast sure
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 10:45:24 PM
Unfortunately, I do not know how your wires are marked.I'll try to explain. An all-in-one coil uses two wires. Wire diameter without lacquer insulation of the light coil( it is larger) it is 0.31 mm. Diameter of the dark coil wire( it is shorter) 0.5 mm .Both coils are wound in the same direction. This was found out from the author of the installation. The same coil imho is a Tesla-kacher in the installation - "Monster" Look carefully at the photos of both installations.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 10:50:44 PM
This is a unit for lighting fluorescent lamps in 1995. But all of it is not used. Just a part of it.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 23, 2020, 11:02:07 PM
Justawatt. I looked in swg. Yes 30swg and 25swg
This is not the most important thing. Bunk said that when a wire of the same diameter was wound, it was possible to get a power of only 200W. When wound with different wires, the power increased to 2500W. A small deviation from the diameters is not critical. I think the length of each wire is more important.The photo is very difficult to determine. Bunk hasn't said anything about the length of the wires yet, either.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 23, 2020, 11:34:40 PM
Hello Niyazzi. If you have some free time sometime, can you translate the Russian words
on the attached schematic into English? Or provide the Russian words from the schematic in Russian
text format here, and I will translate into English.

Если у вас есть свободное время, можете ли вы перевести русские слова?
на прилагаемой схеме на английском языке? Или предоставьте русские слова из схемы на русском языке
текстовый формат здесь, и я переведу на английский.

All the best...
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 24, 2020, 12:09:06 AM
It's simple
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 24, 2020, 12:20:43 AM
Thanks niyazzi!
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 24, 2020, 12:26:00 AM
And more. Bunk has a partner with the nickname Googlodrom.They did the installation together. He was banned from u-tube a long time ago.He doesn't make any more videos. It is possible that his old videos related to the Kapanadze installation may have been saved on your resource. I think these videos would be useful. Recently Googlodrom said that they gave the scheme on one of the foreign sites.And someone repeated their installation. If this is true, it would be easier for you to find this information because I do not know any foreign sites dealing with the topic of Kapanadze.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 24, 2020, 09:06:27 AM
https://overunity.com/17472/maxim-aliyev-replication/.

If so  then it could be  this only.but success for far
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 24, 2020, 09:43:34 AM
Hi guys
I watched carefully all of their videos having only one thing in mind.
And there is no moment even for one second that they show us the back side of the big pipe coil. It is supposed that the two thick coils are connected together at the back of the coil, but really the inventors are hiding this connection very carefully. It makes you wonder...

If justawatt is right and i believe he is right, the long coil is seperated in to two parts. The end of each part might connects itself to the end of each of the thicker coils.
During the last years i have seen some devices that utilize two Tesla coils, one being 1/4 of the wave, the other being the 1/2 of the wave. That means that the 1/4 gives an antinode at its end (high voltage), and the other gives a node (high current). If a load is connected in between, it takes the same time a High voltage peak along with a high current peak. (think Tesla's fireballs).
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 24, 2020, 10:13:43 AM
I'm trying to upload an archived video, but I can't. https://cloud.mail.ru/stock/3Hi8FKBC6k66vyADq3NU4Vf4

What is the question.
1. The kettle with water cannot be moved so it can be connected under the table.
2.LED? the heater may not work at all and only the LED is on
3.Radio - why is everything working? there should be interference.
4. When the hand touches the coil also there should be interference and it should affect the current output. However, we do not know the operating frequency of the device and it may be immune to interference.

I've seen videos and there is something on each that shows a hidden wire. Bunk holds the device and the bulb is lit - yes, but there may be an electric wire in the sleeve of his jacket. You can't see anything in the saw with the saw.
Everything is not very clear but it is actually very simple and maybe nobody understands it.
The device should generate HF and act as a stepdown transformer. If anyone has a different opinion please show me.


At no time can I see the light bulbs (heater). They should light up because it turns off the heater for a while and reconnects it. Maybe you can't see well or they are broken. Both? He repeats that the radiator gives off heat, but this information is not reliable for us.

The gentlemen are probably making jokes and having fun.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 24, 2020, 01:02:47 PM
See this what happens  people trying to  find hidden  wires.
Rather than try to figure out  its working.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 24, 2020, 01:09:23 PM
See this what happens  people trying to  find hidden  wires.
Rather than try to figure out  its working.

Did you confirm that this device is working? hmmm
I showed the weak points of the installation. Everyone draws conclusions.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 25, 2020, 06:20:49 AM
I also had my doubts. Because the kacher frequency changes even as the hand approaches. And in the video, they move the installation, bring their hands closer ,connect the load. Nothing changes. Googlodrom said that it is not kacher. The output is 260 volts, 193 Hz
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: pix on October 25, 2020, 06:49:42 AM

Oh boys....
It's Tesla.
Question:from where energy comes?
Answer: imagine pendulum, you move it one time, it swings multiple times. Every swing from Tesla coil primary is accumulated in secondary.
Question: how to take energy without destroying resonance?
Answer: spark gap. See video of Tariel Kapanadze device in Turkey. Sparks from Tesla coil top goes to  HV step-down transformer.


You welcome.
pix
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 25, 2020, 09:03:13 AM
I also had my doubts. Because the kacher frequency changes even as the hand approaches. And in the video, they move the installation, bring their hands closer ,connect the load. Nothing changes. Googlodrom said that it is not kacher. The output is 260 volts, 193 Hz

I think most of us only did the kacher test with Mhz frequencies. If it is not a Tesla coil transformer and there is no kacher, it is obvious that the device may be operating at low frequency. There is no iron core there and no 100 kg of wire to create a resonance, so what is the principle of the device?

We can talk about ground waves, but also not possible because the coils are moved and should be stationary with respect to the ground. Maybe it doesn't matter either. Opportunities can be invented, but the main thing is to look for a scam.
proverb: If something looks impossible it probably is impossible.

I think Googlodrome and Bunk should make a movie where you can clearly see everything. Turning on the device, connecting the light bulb, leaving the building and leaving it without touching it. It's easy if you want to show the truth.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 25, 2020, 09:47:45 AM
Take a look. There is definately something in to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa30TbM6wak



Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 25, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
Try things out only then we will learn
If you see all the free energy is about sine peak
I got 480volt but no amps
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 25, 2020, 03:23:56 PM
Try things out only then we will learn

This is the only way ;)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 25, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
Jet that is right

Some thing about driver. We have to findout

Like niyazzi said we don't see the  interference is because the CFL driver works. At 310 50hz out,the output is not high frq.
Jeg it is not tesla coil.that is why they said out put frq is in 300hz range and what wire did you use .
I used 26 swg and 23 swg.
When I used 26swg and 28swg I didn't get out

Bunk thanks for sharing the photo,aim getting volts but no amps,can normal driver be used.bunkif you are watching this please help


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 04:58:25 AM
Jeg. Look at the picture again. Here all directions of winding in are specified correctly.The upper end of the L2. 1 is in the air (not connected anywhere). L2. 2 most likely connects to L2.1.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 05:02:46 AM
See this what happens  people trying to  find hidden  wires.
Rather than try to figure out  its working.

Hello justawatt. I try to keep an open mind, as you just never know for sure about these circuits.
However, realistically, the chances of one of these devices being legitimate is very small.

The reason I had more confidence in demonstrations from Kapanadze and Akula is because
they allowed independent third parties to view their demonstrations up close in person.
That adds more weight to their claims. Here, I think, so far this is not the case with Bunk?

I just had time to watch an early video from Bunk called "Капанадзе 14.09.2020.mp4".
I saw something in this video which raises some very potential alarm bells:
At 04:29 in this video, you can see that the 9V battery was clearly disconnected.
At 04:32 in this video, only then does the light bulb turn off.
That is about 3 seconds after the 9V battery was disconnected.
That is not a guarantee of the video demonstration being a trick, but it is very suspicious.

Anyway, I am keeping an open mind, but based on what I saw in "Капанадзе 14.09.2020.mp4",
it does look quite suspicious. I will let you guys continue to analyze the device. Maybe there is some
important concept which we are missing. I don't want to discourage anyone, but I thought I should
mention what looks very suspicious to me in that earlier Bunk video demonstration which I described here.

All the best.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 05:21:33 AM
Now look at the photo. L4 is added with a black wire. Bunk said he was missing a yellow-green wire. It follows that L4 is not taken arbitrarily. I do not know how to adjust it - by length or by inductance. When I tried to calculate the length of the wires from the photo, I got - L2. 1=L4+L1+the length of the connecting wires.The ends of L1 are wrapped with electrical tape. It is also possible to adjust by sliding the wires in L1.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 05:38:44 AM
I also had my doubts. Because the kacher frequency changes even as the hand approaches. And in the video, they move the installation, bring their hands closer ,connect the load. Nothing changes. Googlodrom said that it is not kacher. The output is 260 volts, 193 Hz

Thanks Niyazzi.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 05:38:52 AM
Void.Bunk talks about this in the video. The installation does not turn on immediately, but after some time. It doesn't turn off immediately either. Apparently, charging the capacitor is enough for some time.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 05:46:08 AM
Now look at the photo. L4 is added with a black wire. Bunk said he was missing a yellow-green wire. It follows that L4 is not taken arbitrarily. I do not know how to adjust it - by length or by inductance. When I tried to calculate the length of the wires from the photo, I got - L2. 1=L4+L1+the length of the connecting wires.The ends of L1 are wrapped with electrical tape. It is also possible to adjust by sliding the wires in L1.

Hello Niyazzi. Don't forget that the early 'all in one' circuit only had one tube.
It doesn't appear to have L4. It seems to be a more simple arrangement. It should
therefore maybe be easier to analyze that circuit arrangement.

Edit: If the 'all in one' circuit can produce a large COP (energy gain), i.e., if it can
power a light bulb and an electric water kettle from a 9V battery as shown in the video 
"Капанадзе 14.09.2020.mp4",  then it should be easier to try to replicate that simpler circuit.
No need to worry about the more complicated circuit arrangement.
All the best.


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 05:47:36 AM
Void.Bunk talks about this in the video. The installation does not turn on immediately, but after some time. It doesn't turn off immediately either. Apparently, charging the capacitor is enough for some time.

I see. I suppose that is at least possible anyway.
I am trying to keep my mind open. :)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 05:53:00 AM
Thanks Niyazzi.
This data for installation is " Monster"
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 05:56:05 AM
This data for installation is " Monster"

Yes, I understand. Thanks.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 06:59:45 AM
In my opinion, you should not worry about the more complicated 'monster' circuit for now.
Focus on the simpler 'all in one' circuit. That simpler circuit is supposed to be able to
produce about 2kW output powered using only a 9V battery.  IMO, there is no
point to spend time on the more complicated 'monster' circuit if you can't get the simpler
'all in one' circuit working, as the 'all in one' circuit appears to be the core of the more
complicated 'monster' circuit.

There is only one driver circuit in the simpler 'all in one' circuit.
First, you would have to understand clearly what that driver circuit is doing.
The addition of the transistor and coil appears to possibly be some type of
transistor switching oscillator circuit. This appears to possibly be used to switch or
modulate the output of the driver circuit.

The output of this module appears to connect to the two wire ends of the long coil.
It appears no primary coil is used on the long coil in this circuit arrangement.
So, if that is correct, the long coil is not being driven like a tesla coil in the 'all in one' circuit.

Does anyone definitely recognize the driver circuit being used?
Is it a DC to DC (Or DC to AC?) CFL driver circuit (low voltage DC to higher voltage), or what exactly?
IMO, first we would need to be clear on what this module is doing, before spending time trying to replicate.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 07:20:22 AM
Electronic ballast 2x18W
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 07:39:53 AM
Electronic ballast 2x18W

Hello niyazzi. Yes, such an electronic ballast does appear to be similar to what is being used by Mr. Bunk.
It appears to me that you would need the type of electronic ballast which has a low DC input voltage,
such as a type that is powered from 12VDC.

See the attached picture for an example of an electronic ballast which is powered from 12VDC input.
That way you could power the driver module with a battery, like Mr. Bunk is doing.

P.S. It would help a lot if someone can identify the exact electronic ballast module that Mr. Bunk is using.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 08:45:22 AM
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Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 08:58:33 AM
Made in Italy 1995.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: itsu on October 26, 2020, 11:37:01 AM

https://energyscience.ru/topic472-210.html#p29887 (https://energyscience.ru/topic472-210.html#p29887)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 02:22:34 PM
Thanks niyazzi and Itsu!
Looks like that particular module might be hard to find.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 26, 2020, 03:29:22 PM
Hi guys
Itsu very nice to see you here, i hope you can help on this!

Guys the driver is giving 50 or 100Hz, by modulation. The high frequency component is at Mhz. So i guess that his complex driver is an RF amplifier actually. If we could find the correct type of Bunk's driver and its circuit we could get an idea of how he modified it. Or else, what are we doing here all those years! We can make our own drivers!!!  :)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 26, 2020, 03:43:04 PM
The old versions ballast had no security features when the light bulb was missing.
I think it was the first modification to make the system work all the time.
The second modification may refer to the pulse width for the coil.
Maybe the voltage at the output.

help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 04:17:48 PM
Jeg: Before we can attempt to make our own driver, we would need to be clear on what
type of driver output waveform we are aiming for.  If Mr. Bunk has not explained this or
shown the driver output waveform on a scope, then we would be going at it blind, which
is not good at all. :)

r2fpl: Thanks for the video link. I will watch that video when I get a chance. Looks good.


 

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: partzman on October 26, 2020, 04:59:07 PM
The old versions ballast had no security features when the light bulb was missing.
I think it was the first modification to make the system work all the time.
The second modification may refer to the pulse width for the coil.
Maybe the voltage at the output.

help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg

One small detail missing from the video analysis [unless I missed it] is that the inductor driving the bases of the bipolar transistors is saturating under normal operating conditions.  This is what sets the operating frequency for the series resonant output.

I am very familiar with this type of circuit as I hold a patent [US4,914,558] on this technology which was stolen and incorporated in every CFL coming from China.  Many variations can be built from this basic concept and is not limited to bipolar switches by  any means.

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 26, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
Jeg: Before we can attempt to make our own driver, we would need to be clear on what
type of driver output waveform we are aiming for.  If Mr. Bunk has not explained this or
shown the driver output waveform on a scope, then we would be going at it blind, which
is not good at all. :)

Hi Void
I have seen this again and indeed blindly replicating is the worst thing an experimenter can do. But it is not a new idea. Bringing voltage in phase with current across a load, is something that many people have talked about. And if this is the case then the range of frequencies that involve is related to what we already know about Tesla coils, sfr, 1/4 etc.

Regards
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 26, 2020, 06:13:45 PM
"This demo is done with FLY POWER. It is colliding STATIC and DC and forcing their collision to a common ground.
Static = HV electrostatic potential with virtually no current.
DC = Lower voltage with some actual current".  https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao?t=24 (https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao?t=24)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 26, 2020, 06:18:04 PM
     Guys:
   I don't know if it has been mentioned, but, there is NO Earth ground connection needed nor used on  the single tube model, nor on the bigger double tube device. Which also means, that there is NO extra current coming into the device from any earth ground connection. And so, if it works as shown, any extra juice would have to come from the surrounding ambient.
   Remember that Tesla had the first patent on a UFO craft. Which also probably needed no Earth ground connection, to operate.
This is very important, as any mobil devices as well as vehicles can be run off of this type of device, without it needing to be directly grounded by a wired connection. I feel that this is a step in the right direction. And probably does work similar, if not the same as the Roma device, which has also not been heard from, lately.


   NickZ   
   PS. Thanks for the new link, itsu... good to see you here.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 06:54:22 PM
Hi Void
I have seen this again and indeed blindly replicating is the worst thing an experimenter can do. But it is not a new idea. Bringing voltage in phase with current across a load, is something that many people have talked about. And if this is the case then the range of frequencies that involve is related to what we already know about Tesla coils, sfr, 1/4 etc.
Regards

Hi Jeg. Unless Mr. Bunk provides details about what his output waveform from the
modified electronic ballast driver looks like, then experimenters may have no choice
but to just try different waveforms and frequencies. That usually doesn't go too well however. :)

I am skeptical about this device because really it is just a long air core coil driving the bucking coils
output coil, but I am trying to keep an open mind. Maybe there is some key concept that
we would need to know which makes magic happen. Just the right driver output frequency, or just
the right type of driver output waveform, or both? If Mr. Bunk does not want to show or explain such details,
then it seems very tough to try to replicate. Just my own opinion.

Nick: Yes, it doesn't appear to use any earth ground connection.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
This is how I see how Mr. Bunk's earlier (and simpler) 'All In One' circuit is connected together.
This appears to be the heart of the Bunk 'Monster' circuit. If you can't get this simpler circuit arrangement
producing a COP > 1, then it seems doubtful you will get the more complicated 'Monster' circuit working.
If you see something different in how the 'All In One' circuit is connected, let me know.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: niyazzi on October 26, 2020, 10:43:28 PM
Don't think about ballast
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 10:53:03 PM
Don't think about ballast

Hello niyazzi. Where does that come from? Does that info come from Bunk?
You think the long L1 coil has two separate windings which are capacitively coupled
in series where the two coil windings join together?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 26, 2020, 11:17:59 PM
Heterodyne  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodyne (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodyne)

Superheterodyne receiver  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 26, 2020, 11:49:28 PM
I took a look at some recent comments from Mr. Bunk and Mr. Guglodrom
on the Russian forum where they are posting about this device, and it reminded me
of Ruslan in the past talking on and on in comments and videos, but never providing the 
critical technical details required for a serious replication. If those two guys want to provide the
critical technical details, then just do so already. If they don't want to provide the critical technical details,
then just say so up front and stop blowing endless hot air.  They seem to be just seeking attention. ;D
I will go back to the sidelines now. This does not look very promising to me so far. It seems just too many
unknowns and too much hot air from Mr. Bunk and Mr. Guglodrom.  :D
Jeg and justawatt, you seem to have a lot more patience than me regarding this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: kolbacict on October 27, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
The mr/Bunk was here in the sites in person a couple of years ago. unfortunately I cannot find it.
There were such pictures in his pictures.

And more .. Does it look like anything?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 27, 2020, 10:19:38 AM

I am skeptical about this device because really it is just a long air core coil driving the bucking coils 

Hi Void
When i had first looked at it i wondered the same. But then, i realized that they don't back at all. The reason is that they step on different nodal points over the long tesla coils and when current is induced to one of the thick coils, the other is inducing voltage. They would be bucking coils only if they were inducing current the same time at the opposite direction.

Niyazzi
I was looking for this capacitor in all of his videos and i couldn't find even one clue that it is there. But it is just a lonely cap. If it needs to be there we will find it out. I find it more possible that the two tesla coils are not connected between each other. Free oscillating like every Tesla coil, will generate huge preasures to take the advantage of.

NdaCloudzzz
Thank you sir for the direction that you are trying to show. It looks very close to what happens here.

Jeg and justawatt, you seem to have a lot more patience than me regarding this kind of thing.

hahaha After all those years, patience grew up by itself!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 12:14:33 PM
Void,


You are smart guy and can understand what I am saying.


1. If secondary is partnered coil, it will yield always zero, no matter how you drive it.


2. If that driving module is 12V input, in whole device there are no circuitry which
steps down voltage to 12 V for driving module to operate.
It can work only if driving module is 220V input.


Those are 2 things which bothers me around that device I saw in clips.


??
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 27, 2020, 01:38:08 PM
Void,


You are smart guy and can understand what I am saying.


1. If secondary is partnered coil, it will yield always zero, no matter how you drive it.


2. If that driving module is 12V input, in whole device there are no circuitry which
steps down voltage to 12 V for driving module to operate.
It can work only if driving module is 220V input.


Those are 2 things which bothers me around that device I saw in clips.


??

See it is not partnered  coil
Input coil is wound clockwise and anticlockwise
And output is wound clockwise and anticlockwise
So it is 2 teslacoil back to back
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 01:56:26 PM
Output is partnered coils.


Maybe you can not see it?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 02:00:10 PM
Output coil is partenerd coil.
At least it is on scheme.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 27, 2020, 02:04:23 PM
Guys
In the monster setup (with which i have very closed specs), the frequency that makes one coil to behave as 1/4 and the other as 1/2, is 5,38MHz. I also verified it with my frequency gen, and at that point gives the maximum output over a resistance of 10Ω. If that is the point, then i understand why Bunks didn't use a simple kacher driver.

Have you any idea what the voltage output would be (open circuit/ unloaded) at amplifiers like in the attached image?

https://www.k-po.com/RM-KL-405-V.2.html?last=10
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 27, 2020, 02:09:36 PM
Output is partnered coils.


Maybe you can not see it?


I am talking about all in one coil
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 02:13:19 PM
Guys
In the monster setup (with which i have very closed specs), the frequency that makes one coil to behave as 1/4 and the other as 1/2, is 5,38MHz. I also verified it with my frequency gen, and at that point gives the maximum output over a resistance of 10Ω. If that is the point, then i understand why Bunks didn't use a simple kacher driver.


If the voltage output is 220V and your driver has voltage input 12V, you have a problem!
There are no additional circuitry which steps down 220V to 12V for driver to operate.


Please explain this.!


Have you any idea what the voltage output would be (open circuit/ unloaded) at amplifiers like in the attached image?

https://www.k-po.com/RM-KL-405-V.2.html?last=10 (https://www.k-po.com/RM-KL-405-V.2.html?last=10)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 02:16:37 PM


I am talking about all in one coil


Did you ever worked with bucking coil as secondary and output?


Ever?

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
Void,


You dont have to answer, I can see it for myself.
Dont bother.



Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 27, 2020, 02:24:44 PM

Did you ever worked with bucking coil as secondary and output?


Ever?
I think I know enough ,see the photo I shared before I got that wave form.
And when the input coil was all clockwise  or anticlockwise  and the output. Was bucking coil I didn't get out like you said.
Try to wind the coil and see ,and see the output Yourself
Then let's talk,make it

We have 1000pages of talks here but less than 50 making it or trying it
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 27, 2020, 02:31:09 PM
If the voltage output is 220V and your driver has voltage input 12V, you have a problem!
There are no additional circuitry which steps down 220V to 12V for driver to operate.

Hi v8karlo
Can you be more specific? What do you mean by ''problem''.
In addition, why you bother about stepping down.
Bunks made a contraption with an input from a 18V drill battery and shows us his output loads. And what are we trying to understand is on what principal he based his devices.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
Actually I did experiments with bucking coils enough to post what I post.


Is your module input 12 V or 220V.
It will explain the most.


If you dream that bucking coil output can yield some voltage,
please share it.
I could dream with you! Together!


Can you?

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 27, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
   "We have 1000pages of talks here but less than 50 making it or trying it"                                                                                                            end quote.

   That is because all 50 pages of building have resulted in nothing, as well.    Have any Russians been able to replicate and get either of these devices working???

   Perhaps the diagrams are not correct, or your driver is not doing what it needs to do.   We at least need to know how they are faking it, if that is what is going on... Before we waste more time of this.
   Makes me wonder how long (how many years) before they actually connect the device up to run the whole house.
Or maybe they like paying their electric bills? And showing us a very simple device, but that no one can ever reproduce.
   If Tariel was told to stop, then how and why is this old guy still at it?   Kanahadze, and Kapanadze may be related in some way, and so may be the mode of operation of their secret devices.
   Secret, because they will not spill the beans. And secret because we still don't know how it's done,
   I feel that we will get no where like this, and need to get a hold of the old guy, himself. And bring him vodka, and cigars....And a little money for him wouldn't hurt, as well. Before China gets a hold of it.  Maybe they already have... and is why he won't really show and tell how it really works.

   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 27, 2020, 02:47:41 PM
   That is because all 50 pages of building have resulted in nothing, as well.
   Have any Russians been able to replicate and get either of these devices working???   Perhaps the diagrams are not correct, or your driver is not doing what it needs to do.
   We at least need to know how they are faking it, if that is what is going on... Before we waste more time of this.
   Makes me wonder how long (how many years) before they actually connect the device up to run the whole house.
Or maybe they like paying their electric bills? And showing what no one can reproduce.

   NickZ


Hi bro,


Your HV coil is source of free electrons if grounded,


You have inductor, and bifilar for use.


One of them is coil on which free electrons will land on.


Simple enough.
 
It must be Lenz free coil to make such effect. Doesnt it?


You have all parts involved. Just use them.


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 27, 2020, 03:14:51 PM
   V8Karlo:   I would if I could. But, I don't see any free electrons, nor free energy of any kind by the use of a Tesla coil/Kacher circuit, by itself.   Nor have I seen a Kacher self running. Which makes me wonder why after all these years, if they are the source of free electrons.   We have been using the reverse windings on the HV Kacher's balun, and also on the grenade coils, for years. Nothing to show for it, so far.   I have a feeling that we'll see this device go the same route as the Roma (Poma) device. As no one can get it working right.   So guys, call Bunk, and get some help with this. Or don't, it's up to you.
But, that's what I would do. Maybe go and meet with him, if possible. Or watch this device fade out, like all the others have.

    NickZ

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 27, 2020, 04:59:25 PM
   If you do go, bring your tea and cups, while watching the device warm the water up.
    IF I COULD GO, BELIEVE ME,  I WOULD.

    NZ   
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: AlienGrey on October 27, 2020, 05:10:07 PM
are you talking about a so called Капанадзе device? To start with you don#t have much if any build information
like coil winding details and the alarming thing is it has no way of generating or accelerating electrons or ions, 
or any other published extra collection method. I'm saying that we don't know what the modified CFL
device does nor are we likely to, fun ain it.

AG
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 27, 2020, 05:37:57 PM
I would if I could. But, I don't see any free electrons, nor free energy of any kind by the use of a Tesla coil/Kacher circuit, by itself.   Nor have I seen a Kacher self running. Which makes me wonder why after all these years, if they are the source of free electrons.   We have been using the reverse windings on the HV Kacher's balun, and also on the grenade coils, for years. Nothing to show for it, so far. 

FE is closer to you than you think. I have done FE many times to see that it exists, possibly you did it too just didn't understand it. Everyone has it before their eyes. Let me say more, you think that's not it! I have been dealing with the subject for several years to understand what I saw in the first year.
It is so trivial that I'm afraid if I told you you wouldn't be taking me seriously. That's why I prefer to wait. I know you are nervous because time passes and nobody wants to say anything.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 27, 2020, 07:04:45 PM
Hi Void
When i had first looked at it i wondered the same. But then, i realized that they don't back at all.
The reason is that they step on different nodal points over the long tesla coils and when current is
induced to one of the thick coils, the other is inducing voltage. They would be bucking coils only if
they were inducing current the same time at the opposite direction.

Hello Jeg. Those are interesting ideas. If Bunk and Guglodrom don't give any further details, then
all a person can do is try some different approaches and see what the result is. :)


Void,
1. If secondary is partnered coil, it will yield always zero, no matter how you drive it.
2. If that driving module is 12V input, in whole device there are no circuitry which
steps down voltage to 12 V for driving module to operate.
It can work only if driving module is 220V input.
Those are 2 things which bothers me around that device I saw in clips.
??

Hello v8karlo. In the 'all in one' circuit, I don't think it is self-looped, so the battery
is not being charged. In the 'Monster' circuit, I am not certain if they are self-looping it,
but they have added some other circuitry, so it may possibly be stepping down the output voltage
down to the required DC voltage for charging the drill battery they are using.


Have you any idea what the voltage output would be (open circuit/ unloaded) at amplifiers like in the attached image?
https://www.k-po.com/RM-KL-405-V.2.html?last=10

Hi Jeg.  Not sure about the open circuit/unloaded voltage, but amplifiers like that may have problems if you don't have a load connected,
due to the reflected power back to the transistors. You could blow the output transisitors, if the amplifier doesn't have protection circuitry.

For a 50 ohm resistive load:
If you take the peak output power of that amplifier as 200W (when amplifying a complex waveform, like for AM/FM)),
and use a resistive load of 50 ohms (equipment for ham radio use is typically designed to work into a 50 ohm load),
then you would have:
P = V^2/R  (assuming a purely resistive load)
200 = V^2 / 50
10000 = V^2
V = sqrt(10000)
V = 100V RMS (when driving a 50 ohm resistive load, and assuming a sinewave)

If you can run 400W into a 50 ohm resistive load (that little HF amplifier will probably overheat),
then the output voltage on a 50 ohm resistive load would be: 141.42V RMS.
 

So guys, call Bunk, and get some help with this. Or don't, it's up to you.
But, that's what I would do. Maybe go and meet with him, if possible. Or watch this device fade out, like all the others have.
    NickZ

That would be great if they are willing to cooperate with other people that way.


R2fpl: I wish you good luck!

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 27, 2020, 08:38:54 PM
R2fpl: I wish you good luck!

Void - you don't have to wish me luck because the results largely take time for testing, but luck would also come in handy :)

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 01:11:14 AM
FE is closer to you than you think. I have done FE many times to see that it exists, possibly you did it too just didn't understand it. Everyone has it before their eyes. Let me say more, you think that's not it! I have been dealing with the subject for several years to understand what I saw in the first year.
It is so trivial that I'm afraid if I told you you wouldn't be taking me seriously. That's why I prefer to wait. I know you are nervous because time passes and nobody wants to say anything.

   r2fpl:
   If it's so trivial, it's not self running, nor even OU. As that is not trivial.
   Sorry r2fpl, but I don't believe that you have FE, nor OU, nor have ever seen anything self running. Please show us. Don't just expect us to just believe you. As there is not a single person on this forum that has what you say that you have, or claim to have seen. And therefore my doubts about your statements. And so, you're right, I don't take you seriously.   It's not that I'm "nervous", but I am leary of these unsubstantiated claims. As we've heard them all before.   IF you have nothing to show, then don't expect anyone to believe you, when you say what you just said. Even though you may be a nice guy, and I do appreciate your positive attitude.
   
   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: pix on October 28, 2020, 07:24:13 AM


Imagine huge potential difference between Tesla coil top and ground.

Electrons are "sucked" from the ground. It is resonant amplifier that collects energy during every swing. With every push from primary more inertia is building up in secondary, as voltage is rising on Tesla coil top, and current is rising at the ground node. Frequency of pendulum oscillations do not depends from the mass of pendulum.
It is like during every push for mechanical pendulum, mass of the oscillating weight is increasing. You started with, let's say 0,1 kg mass on pendulum, and after some time the swinging mass has 1 kg. Energy is collected in the swinging pendulum, but frequency (resonant) is the same.
 Do you see now?



   V8Karlo:   I would if I could. But, I don't see any free electrons, nor free energy of any kind by the use of a Tesla coil/Kacher circuit, by itself.   Nor have I seen a Kacher self running. Which makes me wonder why after all these years, if they are the source of free electrons.   We have been using the reverse windings on the HV Kacher's balun, and also on the grenade coils, for years. Nothing to show for it, so far.   I have a feeling that we'll see this device go the same route as the Roma (Poma) device. As no one can get it working right.   So guys, call Bunk, and get some help with this. Or don't, it's up to you.
But, that's what I would do. Maybe go and meet with him, if possible. Or watch this device fade out, like all the others have.

    NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2020, 08:43:00 AM
pix , NickZ


That's why I wrote that you see it and do not understand. What PIX wrote is your FE. Now why can't you have it? Because we don't know the method of receiving this energy. Kapanadze found a way to pick it up, but it's more of a method of connecting current than receiving. Interoperability is also possible. Here it is helpful to understand how the electron works and why the voltage and current are increasing or not.

Nick: did you understand how the Tesla Coil works? and what it gives us. And most importantly where the energy comes from.
I have 100% proof that the FE is there because I did tests that there is voltage and current! All you need is an oscilloscope and a current probe that you surely have.

Another important point is how to start the Tesla coil inductor. If you are using the kacher it is obvious you have never seen FE.
If you want, I can tell you what you have to do to see FE. Maybe the group on Skype we will create will be helpful?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: pix on October 28, 2020, 09:48:23 AM

@r2fpl
The simplest way to extract energy from Tesla without disturbing resonance is by spark from top terminal. Tariel Kapanadze used it in Turkey demonstration. Movies are on YT. Spark from Tesla top goes to the ground by HV step down air transformer.
Driving Tesla coil- like Tesla said: loose coupling between primary and secondary at the  node ("ground")level, where  the current is.
To make coupling even looser, an extra "third" coil was used.


pix , NickZ


That's why I wrote that you see it and do not understand. What PIX wrote is your FE. Now why can't you have it? Because we don't know the method of receiving this energy. Kapanadze found a way to pick it up, but it's more of a method of connecting current than receiving. Interoperability is also possible. Here it is helpful to understand how the electron works and why the voltage and current are increasing or not.

Nick: did you understand how the Tesla Coil works? and what it gives us. And most importantly where the energy comes from.
I have 100% proof that the FE is there because I did tests that there is voltage and current! All you need is an oscilloscope and a current probe that you surely have.

Another important point is how to start the Tesla coil inductor. If you are using the kacher it is obvious you have never seen FE.
If you want, I can tell you what you have to do to see FE. Maybe the group on Skype we will create will be helpful?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 28, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
Hi Jeg.  Not sure about the open circuit/unloaded voltage, but amplifiers like that may have problems if you don't have a load connected,
due to the reflected power back to the transistors. You could blow the output transisitors, if the amplifier doesn't have protection circuitry.

For a 50 ohm resistive load:
If you take the peak output power of that amplifier as 200W (when amplifying a complex waveform, like for AM/FM)),
and use a resistive load of 50 ohms (equipment for ham radio use is typically designed to work into a 50 ohm load),
then you would have:
P = V^2/R  (assuming a purely resistive load)
200 = V^2 / 50
10000 = V^2
V = sqrt(10000)
V = 100V RMS (when driving a 50 ohm resistive load, and assuming a sinewave)

If you can run 400W into a 50 ohm resistive load (that little HF amplifier will probably overheat),
then the output voltage on a 50 ohm resistive load would be: 141.42V RMS.


Hi Void
Thanks a lot for your answer. May i ask one more question. Does this 50 ohm load resistor, also contains the reactance of the load or is it just the ohmic part?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 01:57:00 PM
Hi Void
Thanks a lot for your answer. May i ask one more question. Does this 50 ohm load resistor, also contains the reactance of the load or is it just the ohmic part?

Hi Jeg, the calculation was assuming a purely resistive load (no reactance).
If there is some reactance, then you can can potentially get higher voltage swings across the load.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 02:08:55 PM
I have 100% proof that the FE is there because I did tests that there is voltage and current! All you need is an oscilloscope and a current probe that you surely have.

Hi r2fpl. In a resonant coil with no load attached, you can see large voltage and current swings,
but the voltage and current are out of phase. When you attach a resistive load to the resonant coil,
the resonant voltage and current peaks drop considerably and the voltage and current across the resistor
will be in phase. When the voltage and current are approximately 90 degrees out of phase in a resonant
coil, that is called imaginary power or reactive power. It is not real power. The only actual power being consumed
is due to the resistance in the wire which is used to make the coil. To be able to pull real power off a
resonant coil without destroying the resonance is like trying to find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Leprechauns like Kapanadze and Akula have claimed to have found that magic pot of gold,  but it remains to
be independently confirmed if they really did achieve that or not. :)


@r2fpl
The simplest way to extract energy from Tesla without disturbing resonance is by spark from top terminal. Tariel Kapanadze used it in Turkey demonstration. Movies are on YT. Spark from Tesla top goes to the ground by HV step down air transformer.
Driving Tesla coil- like Tesla said: loose coupling between primary and secondary at the  node ("ground")level, where  the current is.
To make coupling even looser, an extra "third" coil was used.

Hi pix. We have mountains of theories here. The only thing that really counts is if a person
can actually demonstrate that a theory really works with a real circuit demonstration. 


Bunk and Gulodrom don't appear to be using natural coil resonance in their circuit, otherwise it seems to
me their circuit would be very sensitive to going 'out of tune' when they placed their hands close to the long coil,
or when they connected different loads to the output coil. Also, I have seen no indications so far that their circuits
are producing high voltages in the kV range. No sign of corona or arcing seen...

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 02:16:42 PM

Imagine huge potential difference between Tesla coil top and ground.

Electrons are "sucked" from the ground. It is resonant amplifier that collects energy during every swing. With every push from primary more inertia is building up in secondary, as voltage is rising on Tesla coil top, and current is rising at the ground node. Frequency of pendulum oscillations do not depends from the mass of pendulum.
It is like during every push for mechanical pendulum, mass of the oscillating weight is increasing. You started with, let's say 0,1 kg mass on pendulum, and after some time the swinging mass has 1 kg. Energy is collected in the swinging pendulum, but frequency (resonant) is the same.
 Do you see now?


   You guys will never convince me by repeating what you've heard. SHOW ME the FE that you are just talking about. As if I've never heard of it. Words are cheap, and you guys have never ever actually built anything at all that self runs, or even OU.
  So, no I don't SEE anything from you two guys showing us all how well you can build a self running device. Just talk won't cut it.Put your cards on the table. We don't need more theories, even if they are correct, we need self running machines.
   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 28, 2020, 02:18:13 PM
To be able to pull real power off a resonant coil without destroying the resonance is like trying to find the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Leprechauns like Kapanadze and Akula have claimed to have found that magic pot of gold,  but it remains to
be independently confirmed if they really did achieve that or not. :)

Over 2000 posts and you still continue to deny the obvious. Seems pretty clear why Rick calls you "Void of truth"!


https://youtu.be/0bpv3wUWGqk (https://youtu.be/0bpv3wUWGqk)

https://youtu.be/Vb5bBSGiGvA (https://youtu.be/Vb5bBSGiGvA)

https://youtu.be/tpoOWs8SfVo (https://youtu.be/tpoOWs8SfVo)

https://youtu.be/18kOGVfkoik (https://youtu.be/18kOGVfkoik)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 02:21:21 PM
Over 2000 posts and you still continue to deny the obvious. Seems pretty clear why Rick calls you "Void of truth"!

 :o ;D
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: pix on October 28, 2020, 02:24:44 PM

 @NickZ

4875 posts of what?  Seems that you did put a mountains of bluff yet still didn't get it. Quality is better than quantity...
I did said what I had to say and this is me out of that thread.


   You guys will never convince me by repeating what you've heard. SHOW ME the FE that you are just talking about to me. As if I've never heard of it. Words are cheap, and you guys have never ever actually built anything at all that self runs, or even OU.   So, no I don't SEE anything from you two guys showing us all how well you can build a self running device. Just talk won't cut it.
   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 02:54:49 PM
   Ok, so you three guys are here to insult and disrupt this thread, without showing anything at all that works, or that backs up what you believe to be true. Not just more links to guys like Rick F.  Please, give us a break.
  We have heard theories until they are coming out our ears. Yet, not a single FE device from anyone here. That is the reality.
   Like I said, put your cards on the table. Words are cheap. Show it working, if you want to have anyone believe in what you say.   When asked to perform, you come up with more insults... just like Rick. 

   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 03:19:14 PM
Getting back to the Bunk and Guglodrom circuits discussion  :):

Bunk and Guglodrom don't appear to me to be using natural coil resonance in their circuit, otherwise it seems to
me their circuit would be very sensitive to going 'out of tune' when they placed their hands close to the long coil,
or when they connected different loads to the output coil. Also, I have seen no indications so far that their circuits
are producing high voltages in the kV range. I have not noticed any signs of corona or arcing...

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 28, 2020, 03:25:15 PM
    Show it working, if you want to have anyone believe in what you say.   When asked to perform, you come up with more insults... just like Rick.


Are you blind to your own disingenuity? You know what would happen to someone who shows such a clear example! Rick has already shown everything that you need. He knows what would happen if he showed more. YOUR inability to SEE is YOUR own shortcoming.
Your true purpose here is suspect, in my eyes.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 03:36:54 PM
Getting back to the Bunk and Guglodrom circuits discussion  :) :

Bunk and Guglodrom don't appear to me to be using natural coil resonance in their circuit, otherwise it seems to
me their circuit would be very sensitive to going 'out of tune' when they placed their hands close to the long coil,
or when they connected different loads to the output coil. Also, I have seen no indications so far that their circuits
are producing high voltages in the kV range. I have not noticed any signs of corona or arcing...
   


   There may be more to this than meets the eyes, or what we already know about resonance, and such.
   Ruslan also showed how placing his hand close the his device made no difference. But, is that something that we can believe, or not? He is a lier and a thief, selling fake devices that don't work for $5000. That makes what ever else he has shown, not credible. However, the fact the Akula and Adrian, two healthy young guys are now dead, gives me more faith that this tech, is true.
There is no other way to confirm this knowledge without a first hand look, in person, and not by videos, etz...Wesley has been kind enough to do that already at Akula's home, before he was killed. And I do believe in Wesley, and his take on this.
 
    NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 03:52:30 PM

Are you blind to your own disingenuity? You know what would happen to someone who shows such a clear example! Rick has already shown everything that you need. He knows what would happen if he showed more. YOUR inability to SEE is YOUR own shortcoming.
Your true purpose here is suspect, in my eyes.

   Oh, good excuse... but we are talking about Bunk and his device, and not about your judgement of my purpose here.
   I guess that Bunk doesn't know about what can happen when one shows what he is showing. He should talk to you about it?   Perhaps you should worry about yourself, as I don't need your judgements nor insults about my "disingenuity". 
   Thanks, anyway.
   NickZ
   
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: AlienGrey on October 28, 2020, 04:06:23 PM
Getting back to the Bunk and Guglodrom circuits discussion  :):

Bunk and Guglodrom don't appear to me to be using natural coil resonance in their circuit, otherwise it seems to
me their circuit would be very sensitive to going 'out of tune' when they placed their hands close to the long coil,
or when they connected different loads to the output coil. Also, I have seen no indications so far that their circuits
are producing high voltages in the kV range. I have not noticed any signs of corona or arcing...
YES THIS IS A VERY GOOD POINT, and yes it's static you want to attract, positive  static charge.

and you have also pointed out the failings with in the Ruslan Roma device. Well done that man.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 04:28:25 PM
   There may be more to this than meets the eyes, or what we already know about resonance, and such.
   Ruslan also showed how placing his hand close the his device made no difference. But, is that something that we can believe, or not? He is a lier and a thief, selling fake devices that don't work for $5000. That makes what ever else he has shown, not credible. However, the fact the Akula and Adrian, two healthy young guys are now dead, gives me more faith that this tech, is true.
There is no other way to confirm this knowledge without a first hand look, in person, and not by videos, etz...Wesley has been kind enough to do that already at Akula's home, before he was killed. And I do believe in Wesley, and his take on this.
    NickZ


Hi Nick, the circuit Ruslan was demonstrating was a different arrangement.
Also some unknowns in just exactly what Ruslan was doing as well.
I don't know that Ruslan was a fake. Could have been legit for all I know anyway.

I have heard nothing about Akula being dead. If he signed some contract with
some company somewhere, he would likely have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement,
which might account for him keeping a low profile on the internet.

Wesley visited with Kapanadze. It was Tiger and another Russian guy that visited Akula at his home.
Did I miss something else?

Anyway, let's try to keep this topic here on the Bunk and Guglodrom circuits or it might quickly veer off topic. :)

Their 'all in one' circuit appears noticeably different than the Akula/Ruslan circuit. There is no high current generator
circuit that I can see. The transistor which they added to the ballast driver module doesn't even have a heat sink attached.
It is probably not used to generate a high current. It is maybe used for switching the ballast driver output on and off. 

If you have a say 1500W water kettle powered at 240V RMS, that means the current delivered to the water kettle is 6.25 A RMS.
At a 2.5 kW load, that would be 10.4 A RMS.
Still not a really high current, so maybe still within a reasonable range for the circuit layout shown.

What they show in the 'all in one' circuit appears pretty simple, so, if it is legit,
and that's a big 'if', then there may be a fairly simple concept there behind it.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 28, 2020, 05:35:48 PM
Bunk and Guglodrom don't appear to me to be using natural coil resonance in their circuit,

Void
Look at the thick copper pipe which drives his Tesla coils. If it not the resonant Fo it is for sure a harmonic of it.

ps. Thanks for your answer above about the 50 ohm resistor.  ;)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 28, 2020, 05:43:26 PM
  ... but we are talking about Bunk and his device...

All of this is about Bunk and his device?:

Quote
r2fpl:
   If it's so trivial, it's not self running, nor even OU. As that is not trivial.
   Sorry r2fpl, but I don't believe that you have FE, nor OU, nor have ever seen anything self running. Please show us. Don't just expect us to just believe you. As there is not a single person on this forum that has what you say that you have, or claim to have seen. And therefore my doubts about your statements. And so, you're right, I don't take you seriously.   It's not that I'm "nervous", but I am leary of these unsubstantiated claims. As we've heard them all before.   IF you have nothing to show, then don't expect anyone to believe you, when you say what you just said. Even though you may be a nice guy, and I do appreciate your positive attitude.
   
   NickZ



Quote
You guys will never convince me by repeating what you've heard. SHOW ME the FE that you are just talking about. As if I've never heard of it. Words are cheap, and you guys have never ever actually built anything at all that self runs, or even OU.
  So, no I don't SEE anything from you two guys showing us all how well you can build a self running device. Just talk won't cut it.Put your cards on the table. We don't need more theories, even if they are correct, we need self running machines.
   NickZ


Quote
Ok, so you three guys are here to insult and disrupt this thread, without showing anything at all that works, or that backs up what you believe to be true. Not just more links to guys like Rick F.  Please, give us a break.
  We have heard theories until they are coming out our ears. Yet, not a single FE device from anyone here. That is the reality.
   Like I said, put your cards on the table. Words are cheap. Show it working, if you want to have anyone believe in what you say.   When asked to perform, you come up with more insults... just like Rick.

   NickZ


Hmmm. I must have misunderstood you. My bad.



Quote
Oh, good excuse...

Getting yourself and your family whacked in order to appease an unappreciative world that can't even understand what they're being shown is an "excuse"? Come on now! Anyone who's been involved in the FE world knows the risks. It's just plain selfish to claim to be here for good, then beat someone down for not showing you a working device. Because of the threat to FE researchers, subtlety is the only way.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 28, 2020, 06:19:19 PM
Void
Look at the thick copper pipe which drives his Tesla coils. If it not the resonant Fo it is for sure a harmonic of it.

ps. Thanks for your answer above about the 50 ohm resistor.  ;)


The picture you showed?


It seems that is not connected as indicated on schematic.


One end is loose. It does not form bucking coil.

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 28, 2020, 06:20:47 PM
Void
Look at the thick copper pipe which drives his Tesla coils. If it not the resonant Fo it is for sure a harmonic of it.

ps. Thanks for your answer above about the 50 ohm resistor.  ;)


jeg

Well said this is not a tesla coil,the driver is working in 50hz range,so harmonics is the key,this device is not about resonance
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 28, 2020, 06:23:28 PM

The picture you showed?


It seems that is not connected as indicated on schematic.


One end is loose. It does not form bucking coil.

That photo was before connecting. The load,look closely ,what about your FE devices. You mentioned you made,care to share some photos and video of those  device
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 28, 2020, 06:27:01 PM
If I made working device, I would not be here?


I dont have it.
Maybe someone else does?

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 28, 2020, 07:23:37 PM

jeg

Well said this is not a tesla coil,the driver is working in 50hz range,so harmonics is the key,this device is not about resonance

Hi JustaWatt
In the contrary i believe it is a matter of resonance. But not at the fundamendal frequency.
I don't doubt that it is a driver for 50Hz. But internally he has an oscillator for high frequencies. MHz range. There is no way for inducing lower frequencies in the range of hz through a loose coupled thick copper pipe. This is Tesla driving clearly. And very probably modulated at 50Hz.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2020, 07:34:49 PM
Your FE is resonance with time. This information is the key, and when it is misunderstood, it is nothing.
Do you really think someone will show a real device here with step by step instructions?
Void: You're right, but there are conditions under which such a process is possible. So I wrote a repeat earlier: joining the currents!
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: v8karlo on October 28, 2020, 07:35:09 PM
50 Hz on aircore?


Maybe it can be? Everything is possible!


I am open to all kind of stuff, still.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 07:36:21 PM
Void
Look at the thick copper pipe which drives his Tesla coils. If it not the resonant Fo it is for sure a harmonic of it.

Hi Jeg. I have made it clear I am talking about the 'all in one' circuit.
There is only the long air core coil on what looks a carboard tube,
and the thicker wire output 'bucking coil'. I don't know why you would spend time
on the 'monster' circuit when the 'all in one' circuit is simpler and
is still supposed to supply at least 2kW at the output.


jeg
Well said this is not a tesla coil,the driver is working in 50hz range,so harmonics is the key,
this device is not about resonance

Hi justawatt.
I have been talking about the 'all in one' circuit. It is a simpler setup to analyze.
I stated it appears to me the coil (or possibly coils) on the long coil
do not appear to me to be operated at natural resonance, and I explained why I think that.

You say harmonics is the key, as if you know that for sure.
What makes you think that is the case? If the 'all in one' circuit is dependent on
operating at natural coil resonance, or some resonant wavelength fraction, it would be susceptible
to getting untuned when you placed your arm or hand near it, or when you changed the
load connected to the output coil. If you have a larger value capacitor connected
across part or all of the long coil, forming a tank circuit, that would probably show
more stability, but they don't appear to have any such capacitor connected to the long coil.

Anyway, I'll let you guys have at it.
If the 'all in one' circuit is legit, it should be based on a fairly simple concept,
as there is just not too much to that particular setup that I can see.


Void: You're right, but there are conditions under which such a process is possible. So I wrote a repeat earlier: joining the currents!

Hi r2fpl. I have an open mind. :)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2020, 07:41:48 PM
Hi JustaWatt
In the contrary i believe it is a matter of resonance. But not at the fundamendal frequency.
I don't doubt that it is a driver for 50Hz. But internally he has an oscillator for high frequencies. MHz range. There is no way for inducing lower frequencies in the range of hz through a loose coupled thick copper pipe. This is Tesla driving clearly. And very probably modulated at 50Hz.

Yes, ballast works in a modulated phase 50 / 60Hz system, for example with a frequency of 47Khz which for TT can excite on Mhz. If only one power stage is working, it will be pulses! not sine when the ballast works with the lamp.

Void: I can see the pickup method on Bunk. These are the two Tesla coils that act like a tuning fork.   (if this is a trick we are making fools of ourselves)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 07:50:48 PM
(if this is a trick we are making fools of ourselves)

Hi r2fpl. The chances of any such device really being OU is not very good,
especially in this case, as the 'all in one' setup seems to have very little to it.
However, I always try to keep an open mind as you just never know what might be possible
as long as you have the right concept. Kapanadze said his setup is based on a very simple concept,
if he was telling the truth. :)

Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 28, 2020, 07:51:01 PM
Hi Jeg. I have made it clear I am talking about the 'all in one' circuit.

It is just that i safely assumed that they work on the same principal.
If i'll move to the smaller device would be because it needs lower frequencies which easier to make.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 28, 2020, 07:52:26 PM
Yes, ballast works in a modulated phase 50 / 60Hz system, for example with a frequency of 47Khz which for TT can excite on Mhz. If only one power stage is working, it will be pulses! not sine when the ballast works with the lamp.

Thanks r2fp! Does it happen to have a link with a similar circuit to analyze?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 07:53:09 PM
It is just that i safely assumed that they work on the same principal.
If i'll move to the smaller device would be because it needs lower frequencies which easier to make.

Yes, the 'all in one' setup appears to be the heart of the 'monster' setup.
I think it would be easier to try to get the 'all in one' setup working first.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
Thanks r2fp! Does it happen to have a link with a similar circuit to analyze?

I have several different ballasts and they all work similarly. The difference is only in the frequency of kHz. Bunk used one transistor I think because only in this mode you can have pulses. Transistors Q5 and Q6 have been removed but you can see one on the wires on the side. This gives the answer that we have a pulse generator in 50Hz modulation with a frequency per kHz. This is how it shows.


The ballast used by Bunk in the photo is for one LAMP
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 08:51:50 PM
I have several different ballasts and they all work similarly. The difference is only in the frequency of kHz. Bunk used one transistor I think because only in this mode you can have pulses. Transistors Q5 and Q6 have been removed but you can see one on the wires on the side. This gives the answer that we have a pulse generator in 50Hz modulation with a frequency per kHz. This is how it shows.
Bunk picture ballast:

Hi r2fpl. Good detective work!
Which Bunk video did you take the screenshot showing Q5 and Q6 missing from the circuit board?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2020, 08:58:17 PM
Hi r2fpl. Good detective work!
Which Bunk video did you take the screenshot showing Q5 and Q6 missing from the circuit board?

These are the original photos that were on the Russian forum. https://overunity.com/18679/kapanadzie/
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 28, 2020, 09:07:45 PM
Hi r2fpl. Good detective work!
Which Bunk video did you take the screenshot showing Q5 and Q6 missing from the circuit board?

https://energyscience.ru/topic480-210.html#p29874 (https://energyscience.ru/topic480-210.html#p29874)

https://energyscience.ru/topic480-210.html#p29887 (https://energyscience.ru/topic480-210.html#p29887)

https://energyscience.ru/download/file.php?id=14693&mode=view (https://energyscience.ru/download/file.php?id=14693&mode=view)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 28, 2020, 09:20:35 PM
These are the original photos that were on the Russian forum. https://overunity.com/18679/kapanadzie/

Interesting. Thanks!
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 10:05:47 PM
   Void, Jeg, Justawatt:    I can neither believe nor disbelieve what I've seen on these videos. Nor if Akula and Adrian are really dead, as they say.Nor if Ruslan really charged $5000 bucks, for a non working unit. But, I'm afraid that it's all true enough, to concern me about what is true, and what is not. I am not just making this all up...
    I have wasted enough time already on trying to figure things out, without the proper means. Like a real schematic, and well explained videos, etz...  Still, when I see a guy connect few coils up to a 9v battery, and make some tea.  I'm in... I don't care what anyone says. Cuz, I know that just ain't possible, but I'm seeing it...
   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: justawatt on October 28, 2020, 10:16:56 PM
You have a point  there too,but why would every inventor go through this extend if it is not working.
Ruslan devices is now 5 years old now,where is he ,why it is not launched in the market that is also good. Question to ask.
But I believe free energy is possible.

If anyone here is from USA ,Saint technology started selling 500kw free energy device already,watch thrive 2,all the info is there
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: ramset on October 28, 2020, 10:29:21 PM
Justawatt
I will investigate if you send a number or contact


Thx
Chet
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 10:58:46 PM
   What it looks like is happening, is that these guys are all getting bought out, and told to stop, as Tariel has stated.
   What also may be happening, now, is that they are also being told to continue, but showing fakes, instead. To keep us in the dark.
   Oil and power companies can do this, and much more... Imagine what would happen if Bunk's device is for real... will it really see the light of day?
   Think of all the people freezing in Russia, or the US, because they can't afford to pay their electric, gas, or heating oil bills. While the oil companies are laughing...  Fuck them.
   
   NickZ   
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 28, 2020, 11:31:22 PM
   But, who said that its "not working"?   Much more than these small table top models are possible. 40 or 100kW models coming next year. But, still we are being imposed on, as for long as possible. What can we do about it? Beat them at their own game.
They know it's just a matter of time. And they can also see that their time, is just about up.   NickZ
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NickZ on October 29, 2020, 12:11:27 AM
   Jeg:   Good observation.  I agree that it is a HV Tesla coil being fed by a wierd modifed PS. But at the end of the Tesla secondary coil there is a step down coil. This may be where the lower voltage and higher amps and different frequency maý come from, yet none of this device is working normal
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: AlienGrey on October 29, 2020, 12:55:06 AM
   Jeg:   Good observation.  I agree that it is a HV Tesla coil being fed by a wierd modifed PS. But at the end of the Tesla secondary coil there is a step down coil. This may be where the lower voltage and higher amps and different frequency maý come from, yet none of this device is working normal
Well how does a CFL control module work it charges a cap up to a about 2000 volts and dumps it across the tube a bit like Wesley's central heating controller video. the question is how do you make it do that repetitively with out going bang  :( :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg

AG

PS you do realise the world is an oil based economy run by the Morgans and the Bushes and 2 or three or more others and it's worth over 68 billion a year so they arn't going to let one or more  people get in the way of the world from being polluted to death.
I mean is an electric car carbon neutral I don't think so are solar panels and batteries ? no none of it is !
do you get the point ? so if your stupid enough to want to patent a device you asking the oil based economy that runs the banks and the patent office
for a loan to market your device, The name of the game is GLOBAL CONTROL so what do you think will happen hmm?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 29, 2020, 09:16:18 AM
...If someone wants a scheme of our BTG - write in a personal (1200 €). Ready-made BTG of the "Monster" type is not available, but at the request of the customer we will collect it for 15,000 €. All in a personal to me or to Bunku.

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 29, 2020, 11:10:31 AM
..If someone wants a scheme of our BTG - write in a personal (1200 €). Ready-made BTG of the "Monster" type is not available, but at the request of the customer we will collect it for 15,000 €. All in a personal to me or to Bunku.

https://giphy.com/gifs/memecandy-Tex4wVhhs4iwKoV7YT (https://giphy.com/gifs/memecandy-Tex4wVhhs4iwKoV7YT)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: kolbacict on October 29, 2020, 11:59:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq87-sVVezg)

I have used these electronic ballasts to repair LCD TVs. not LED, but old ones, with fluorescent lamps.
When its own backlight fails.  ;)
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on October 29, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
Just watch the movies carefully. Everything is fun.
Gentlemen have too much free time at work and make jokes.
I showed what others probably can't see.

How many people still consider it true?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Jeg on October 29, 2020, 02:09:32 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US8610311B1/en

Abstract
A passive power generation system comprised of a magnification device for magnifying energy and a recovery device operatively coupled to the magnification device for recovering at least a portion of the magnified energy and a method for making the passive power generation system for magnifying and recovering energy.

A wireless power transmitter, comprising:
a primary winding having a first number of turns and driven at a drive frequency;
a secondary winding disposed concentric with said primary winding and having a second number of turns greater than said first number of turns for providing an inductive time constant greater than a time between cycles of the drive frequency for allowing currents induced in said secondary winding by said primary winding to superimpose for magnifying energy so long as a portion of said secondary winding remains electrically free relative to said primary winding;
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 29, 2020, 03:37:39 PM
Guglodrom Today, 09:14
If someone wants a scheme of our BTG - write in a personal (1200 €). Ready BTG type "Monster" is not available,
but at the request of the customer we will collect for 15,000 €. All in a personal to me or to Bunku.
-------------------------
WILL - Administrator
Message WILL »53 minutes ago

Bidding is over - the branch is closed!
Guglodrom - BAN 1 month
Bunk - BAN 1 month
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It never ends...  :D


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: AlienGrey on October 29, 2020, 03:56:28 PM
Hardly original it's using Tesla's hair pin circuit, and it's like the Floyd Sweet device and Tesla coil.

On one of the Russian treads a year or was it 3 some one published a device called THE Chip
all in Russian language it used mains in to a type of oscillator feeding a hair pin accelerator
similar to your patent above that then fed a pair of unbalanced bucking coils feeding another
coil and then fed an output oscillator driving circuit a BOX in the circuit to output the accelerated
output power.
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Void on October 29, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
Cheap Free Energy!!!  Best Deal in Town!!!
Come in and see Mr. Bunk and Mr. Guglodrom. 
We'll beat any price out there!!!
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: AlienGrey on October 30, 2020, 09:15:45 AM
How true is this here ?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Sergh on October 31, 2020, 01:00:31 PM
Lie test question for testing "prophets"::
- how does the Kapanadze mechanical generator work, which  has the same principle?
- how does the Kapanadze engine work, which  has the same principle?

Don't know? Get out! :D
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: kolbacict on October 31, 2020, 04:03:21 PM
Quote
- how does the Kapanadze mechanical generator work, which  has the same principle?

such a principle?
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: Sergh on October 31, 2020, 07:19:03 PM
No, "another side of the Moon"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41l0zF-pHNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41l0zF-pHNQ)
my current direction for thoughts and experimentation:
adsorption, desorption, dependence of these processes on temperature and pressure;
zeolites, "boiling stones";https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolite)
crystal structure of zeolites, how the adsorbed substances pass into the zeolites.

molecular sieve and modern production of oxygen, nitrogen;other substances with the possibility of adsorption
not only this but also something else, about this: the world of nanometers and less dimensions, molecular level
... in progress, difficult for me, not enough info ...

p.s.: to this:2020-10-31_180751.jpg  (https://overunity.com/18679/kapanadzie/dlattach/attach/179381/)if you deeply study the Georgian patent base, you can find a patent for a mechanical damper in the form of such a spring.  ;) 
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: kolbacict on November 03, 2020, 12:00:29 PM
Well, he gave out a lot of interesting information on the Russian-language forum. Where does he find it? For example...
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: stivep on December 22, 2020, 02:32:58 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41l0zF-pHNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41l0zF-pHNQ)

p.s.: to this:2020-10-31_180751.jpg  (https://overunity.com/18679/kapanadzie/dlattach/attach/179381/)if you deeply study the Georgian patent base, you can find a patent for a mechanical damper in the form of such a spring.  ;)

 compare the ,moment of high over-pressure sound
here:   https://youtu.be/41l0zF-pHNQ?t=252 (https://youtu.be/41l0zF-pHNQ?t=252)
 and
here :  https://youtu.be/imDzq8ufrTY?t=303 (https://youtu.be/imDzq8ufrTY?t=303)
Wesley
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: r2fpl on December 22, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
https://youtu.be/41l0zF-pHNQ?t=257

4:16 - the device turns off for a while, but the power on the bulbs hardly changes.

The engine turns slowly. How many ?
>1000 rpm - no
<1000 rpm  - closer
750 rpm ?
 


Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: delphiec on May 05, 2021, 01:54:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyZaxoCqxLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVWk3IsDff0


Check it out

Bunk forum with my schema and detailed description https://hhobro.forum2x2.ru/t2-topic
Of course in Russian))))
Title: Re: Капанадзе
Post by: delphiec on June 29, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyZaxoCqxLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVWk3IsDff0


Check it out

Bunk forum with my schema and detailed description https://hhobro.forum2x2.ru/t2-topic
Of course in Russian))))

...and what we got, it's fake