Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system ! (Read 2238288 times)

norman6538 · « **Reply #4515 on:** October 06, 2023, 04:44:57 PM »

I have not seen anyone properly measure the input and output (If I missed it please point me to it).

So I propose the following test.
1. use a weight on a rope/string to start/run the machine measuring how far it falls.

2. using the output of the machine lift another weight on a rope/string and measure
how far it is lifted.

That will eliminate equipment calibration errors etc.

I believe that by combining several forces OU is possible.
An example of this is my pendulum that starts at 2 o'clock and falls downs to 6 and on up to noon and then falls back down slowly and oscillates a bit but slowly.
Involved is gravity and magnets of correct polarity and positions. Switch the polarities and it does not go past 10 am.

Then the proof that everyone is looking for is to cascade 2 of them together so that they are looped and run continuously.

Norman

Cloxxki · « **Reply #4516 on:** October 06, 2023, 06:12:05 PM »

Quote from: Mayo on October 06, 2023, 10:47:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUQNfAra-0

In 2016, Veljko Milković announced in his book Energy turning point or apocalypse that he will reward with 100,000 dinars the person who succeeds in proving that rotations are more efficient than oscillations. In 2022, he raised the value of the reward to his total assets if someone manages to prove the above, but no one came forward.

With this address, Veljko Milković announces that the competition for the award is over, since no one has managed to prove the antithesis of what he claims: that oscillations are far more efficient than rotations.

So already in 2016 he tried to change the narrative from "12x OU" to "a pendulum is more efficient than a flywheel", but he lets OTHERS do the work? All that resource to be wasted on his effort to perpetuate his false glory over a side-discussion? Come up with a looped 2SO if it's supposedly so efficient! Even at COP 1.01 it should be loopable then, right?

We'd better award BIG MONEY to the first person who manages to loop the 2SO, which should be the minimum for proof it's overunity. It's all weights on levers and bearings so losses can be kept well under 1%.
Show us a looped system that powers ANY kind of load without draining the driving resource. No added solar panels or heat engines, just the 2SO.

Which built came closest? Which even ran for 10 minutes without loss of amplitude nor frequency?

Mayo · « **Reply #4517 on:** October 10, 2023, 10:42:10 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBXIbh35V50

The End of Anti-Thesis Cash Award after 7 Years

"I want to declare that oscillations are far more efficient than various types of rotations. A little more than seven years ago, a prize of 100,000 RSD was announced for an experimental anti-thesis. If anyone brought any rotary device and proved the anti-thesis, he would receive the cash award of 100,000 RSD. In the last year I have increased that award to all my property. And now I want to finish the competition since no one, absolutely no one, has brought any rotary device so far to confirm or question this. Thus, no more prizes. Seven years was quite enough."

Mayo · « **Reply #4518 on:** October 10, 2023, 10:45:17 AM »

Quote from: Mayo on October 10, 2023, 10:42:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBXIbh35V50

The End of Anti-Thesis Cash Award after 7 Years

"I want to declare that oscillations are far more efficient than various types of rotations. A little more than seven years ago, a prize of 100,000 RSD was announced for an experimental anti-thesis. If anyone brought any rotary device and proved the anti-thesis, he would receive the cash award of 100,000 RSD. In the last year I have increased that award to all my property. And now I want to finish the competition since no one, absolutely no one, has brought any rotary device so far to confirm or question this. Thus, no more prizes. Seven years was quite enough."

Mayo · « **Reply #4519 on:** October 10, 2023, 10:46:47 AM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on October 06, 2023, 06:12:05 PM

So already in 2016 he tried to change the narrative from "12x OU" to "a pendulum is more efficient than a flywheel", but he lets OTHERS do the work? All that resource to be wasted on his effort to perpetuate his false glory over a side-discussion? Come up with a looped 2SO if it's supposedly so efficient! Even at COP 1.01 it should be loopable then, right?

We'd better award BIG MONEY to the first person who manages to loop the 2SO, which should be the minimum for proof it's overunity. It's all weights on levers and bearings so losses can be kept well under 1%.
Show us a looped system that powers ANY kind of load without draining the driving resource. No added solar panels or heat engines, just the 2SO.

Which built came closest? Which even ran for 10 minutes without loss of amplitude nor frequency?

Mayo · « **Reply #4520 on:** October 10, 2023, 10:47:06 AM »

here you go, make and prove the antithesis, when you have nothing better to do than to follow Veljko Milković's footsteps, you are either a perfect person or you are obsessed with Mr. Milković. something seriously wrong with you

Cloxxki · « **Reply #4521 on:** October 11, 2023, 11:50:09 PM »

Quote from: Mayo on October 10, 2023, 10:47:06 AM

here you go, make and prove the antithesis, when you have nothing better to do than to follow Veljko Milković's footsteps, you are either a perfect person or you are obsessed with Mr. Milković. something seriously wrong with you

I will do so after you prove that the sky doesn't look blue and the grass doesn't look green.

To wager with Milkovic who sets and changes his own claims, is for fools.
From 12x out vs in to battling the flywheel. But it's to his detractors to now invest their time into a hugely pointless discussion. Flywheels are super close to 100% efficient, if designed with commitment. To theoretically be closer to 100% doesn't help mankind a thing.
I'll ask this: what's the 2SO with the lowest number of bearing and the least aerodynamic drag? A flywheel can approach zero drag on a single bearing.

Mayo · « **Reply #4522 on:** October 12, 2023, 09:41:26 AM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on October 11, 2023, 11:50:09 PM

I will do so after you prove that the sky doesn't look blue and the grass doesn't look green.

To wager with Milkovic who sets and changes his own claims, is for fools.
From 12x out vs in to battling the flywheel. But it's to his detractors to now invest their time into a hugely pointless discussion. Flywheels are super close to 100% efficient, if designed with commitment. To theoretically be closer to 100% doesn't help mankind a thing.
I'll ask this: what's the 2SO with the lowest number of bearing and the least aerodynamic drag? A flywheel can approach zero drag on a single bearing.

Bring all the available funds on a rotating basis and prove it and of course it is not worth the people since they are not fools. So this kind of behavior, that is, insulting people, is subject to criminal charges

Mayo · « **Reply #4523 on:** October 12, 2023, 09:42:40 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUQdh3duiI8

New video Veljko Milković

Cloxxki · « **Reply #4524 on:** October 12, 2023, 10:28:55 AM »

Quote from: Mayo on October 12, 2023, 09:41:26 AM

Bring all the available funds on a rotating basis and prove it and of course it is not worth the people since they are not fools. So this kind of behavior, that is, insulting people, is subject to criminal charges

Criminal charges in which country, exactly?
For calling out an inventoir that started out claiming COP 12 and has reduced that to "more efficient than flywheel", but makes it the job of detractors to invest in disproving his unlikely claim? He doesn't show where he is overcoming the majority of the induced bearing and air resistance over a flywheel. But he employs an army of minions to sing his glory and a defend his questionnable honor...

Imagine Milkovic would task his many web minions with the creation of a wholly new energy invention that outperforms a flywheel... But no, there is only one task: pester the whole new energy community with ever more tidbits about the inventor, his ego and lack of new applications. On this forums there are hundreds of inventors who after their first invention immediately moved on to the next, and the next. Why is the 2SO clan so stuck on this thing, making it the job of the world and the greatest brains on it, to find a use for it?

@Stefan: please change the title to "more efficient that a flywheel" as the inventor and his minions seems to have giving up on that, it tasks them with the burning of looping the little dangly lever and they just can't be bothered to try anymore. It's now all the burden of the clear thinkers to disprove them, on their own budget. After the latest claim is disproven, there will be a next claim, but not a new invention. All the work by Milkovic and clan has been done, a perfect creation. Hundreds more posts and videos to come!

Merg · « **Reply #4525 on:** October 13, 2023, 12:27:08 PM »

some publications mentioning the Milkovic two-stage oscillator (in MS Word)

Indonesia
http://eprints.unram.ac.id/2766/2/BAB%20II.docx

Romania
http://116.203.245.78/Psaltica/database/peste%208000%20carti/Catalin_Dan_Carnaru-Energia_Pentru_Toti_V1_06__.doc

Cloxxki · « **Reply #4526 on:** October 15, 2023, 01:23:17 PM »

Did anyone find a single Joule of overunity, or a Joule saved versus a flywheel?

Merg · « **Reply #4527 on:** October 15, 2023, 11:56:22 PM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on October 15, 2023, 01:23:17 PM

Did anyone find a single Joule of overunity, or a Joule saved versus a flywheel?

Did you see this paper from 2013 and their experiment results?
https://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/G.R.Nikhade_R.U.Patil_S.P.Bansal_Two-stage_oscillator_mechanism_for_operating_a_reciprocating%20pump.pdf

seychelles · « **Reply #4528 on:** October 16, 2023, 05:38:28 AM »

THANKS MERGE.

Mayo · « **Reply #4529 on:** October 16, 2023, 09:52:53 AM »

https://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/1701561.pdf

some publications mentioning the Milkovic two-stage oscillator

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