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### Author Topic: Witness the Free Energy effect  (Read 39223 times)

#### blueplanet

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2017, 05:47:06 PM »
This so-called dielectric current is somewhat like displacement current. By  Poynting's formula, the power vector S is given by S=E x B, which is in the same direction of the force. How do you harvest this energy?

Also, if you use earth magnetic field, which is very small, the E field has to be very strong in order for this power to be enough to do work.

Are you guys trying to come up with so-called electrostatic wave???

(Disclaimer: I am no expert on TPU.)

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2017, 06:29:08 PM »
This so-called dielectric current is somewhat like displacement current. By  Poynting's formula, the power vector S is given by S=E x B, which is in the same direction of the force. How do you harvest this energy?

Also, if you use earth magnetic field, which is very small, the E field has to be very strong in order for this power to be enough to do work.

Are you guys trying to come up with so-called electrostatic wave???

(Disclaimer: I am no expert on TPU.)
That’s awesome! I wasn’t aware of the term displacement current, but that’s exactly what I’m talking about. I’d highly recommend everyone watch this video, essentially 9 minutes of content about displacement current.

https://youtu.be/77PZPBXMl1w

No the device doesn’t use Earth’s magnetic field. It uses the magnetic field inside the core, which could be an air core. Like I was telling someone else, this thing we call “space” is going to exist at some location regardless if we place some electrons, protons, and  neutrons there. Furthermore, there will be displacement current from the magnetic core itself, but it’s the displacement current through space itself that we’re interested in. So if the magnetic core dielectric constant is 3, then it doesn’t help the device. In the math I use a dielectric constant of 1. The reason is that the electrons are not moving through space, and therefore there’s no energy to gain from that. I’ve theorized that there’s a vortex of space flowing through Earth that varies depending on one’s location, but for countries such as the U.S. I think most of the flow is vertical with some horizontal flow. If it’s true that space is flowing through Earth, then it could be a source of energy, which is why I’m interested in space displacement current.

For those who like to read about my unusual messages: I'm told that all charged particles (e.g., electrons) produce a vortex of flowing space, and that tapping into this source of energy does not deplete the electron's magnetic field, as the energy comes from the vacuum itself. In that sense this is safe energy. I was warned by these people years ago that unshielded "black energy" produces radiation that's harmful to people. I'm not sure if this technology taps into black energy.

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2017, 06:37:09 PM »
ps, See the bold text from the quote below.

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When the rate of change of the capacitor electric field is determined and its surface integral calculated, the displacement current turns out to exactly equal the wire current, giving the same result for the BB line integral.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/64356/displacement-current-how-to-think-of-it

If the AC current in-series with the capacitor is 1 A rms, then the displacement current in-between the capacitor plates is also 1 A rms, even if it's a vacuum.

#### Jeg

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2017, 06:58:22 PM »
The force is in the same direction regardless if the current is + or -. So when the AC current reverse polarity during the other half of the cycle the dielectric current is reversed and the B-field is also reversed. So a negative times a negative is still a positive. That's why the force can be in the same direction. Of course it doesn't have to be that way.

Hi TR.
If i understand right, you use capacitor's displacement current instead of conducting current so to produce a Lorentz force? And this force is applied to space as space is moving and caries charges? I wonder if the force is applied also to the capacitor's displacement current itself. It is also perpendicular to the B field. If this is true then the same would happen inside a simple capacitor even without any magnetic core, as magnetic flux is always there spinning around on the surface of the cap's plates and their inner space.

I have a great interest to what you are doing TR. Thank you for sharing this space propulsion idea.

#### PolaczekCebulaczek

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2017, 06:59:57 PM »
This so-called dielectric current is somewhat like displacement current. By  Poynting's formula, the power vector S is given by S=E x B, which is in the same direction of the force. How do you harvest this energy?

Energy comes from the battle between changing electric so magnetic field from capacitor and magnetism from the core, I guess. its based of the  Lorentz force, core magnetic field is getting crazy and inducing things in coil.

I'm also building this device ,its very simple actually, see what happens...

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2017, 07:03:13 PM »
BTW does anyone have recommendations on the simplest circuit to display AC current of say 1 to 20 mA on a DVM? I'll try to keep the frequency as low as possible, below 20 MHz. The simplest method is to feed directly to a DVM, but most DVMs would not be able to detect such AC signals. Looks like the circuit will have to convert the small AC signal to DC for the DVM. Is a frequency mixer the simplest way. The goal is create a circuit that consists of components most people here at OU will have while keeping the circuit simple. I’d also like to stay away from magnetic cores. No transformers.

Another way is to use two LEDs instead of a DVM. That would require something like an op-amp for the LEDs. It would be a red and blue LED. For example, the blue LED would light up when the device is pointing up, and the red LED would light up when the device is pointing down. Although that doesn’t provide a voltage. It would be helpful to know how much voltage devices are producing at various locations around the planet.

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2017, 07:14:05 PM »
Hi TR.
If i understand right, you use capacitor's displacement current instead of conducting current so to produce a Lorentz force? And this force is applied to space as space is moving and caries charges? I wonder if the force is applied also to the capacitor's displacement current itself. It is also perpendicular to the B field. If this is true then the same would happen inside a simple capacitor even without any magnetic core, as magnetic flux is always there spinning around on the surface of the cap's plates and their inner space.

I have a great interest to what you are doing TR. Thank you for sharing this space propulsion idea.
Perhaps the easiest way to understand how the device works is to imagine electrical current oscillating back and forth >between< the capacitor plates (displacement current), say east/west, and the magnetic field that is produced by the magnetic core is oscillating north/south through the capacitor plates (yes the magnetic core is between the capacitor plates), and space is flowing vertically. We know from well established classical mechanics that force = magnetic field * current * length.

In our case, the displacement current is actually space itself. That’s what the math shows. Since the displacement current is in phase with the magnetic field, there’s a net force on space in one direction since a positive multiplied by a positive is always a positive, and a negative multiplied by a negative is always a positive.

Yes the device is also a propulsion system. And if you take it aboard a jet airliner you can use that 500+ mph to create free energy. Although I doubt the captain will appreciate you applying drag on the plane. I should add that it takes an extremely powerful device to produce much force.

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #97 on: October 30, 2017, 07:19:51 PM »
I'm also building this device ,its very simple actually, see what happens...
Cool! It's actually quite easy to see the effect, but it's quite the task to do it well enough so it's convincing.

#### Jeg

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #98 on: October 30, 2017, 07:24:39 PM »
BTW does anyone have recommendations on the simplest circuit to display AC current of say 1 to 20 mA on a DVM?

Precision op amp rectifiers would do the job as the forward diode voltage won't limit you when using low level signals.

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2017, 07:28:39 PM »
I'm also building this device ,its very simple actually, see what happens...
Here's the circuit of 1st design. Although I think it was actually +- 9 volts, not 6. They were AA batteries.

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2017, 07:31:28 PM »
Precision op amp rectifiers would do the job as the forward diode voltage won't limit you to low level signals.
Nice. I'll have to try that. It's been awhile since I've used that. Seems to me it didn't rectify so well at lower voltages, but I could be mistaken.

#### Jeg

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2017, 07:52:06 PM »
Looks like the issue was due to the very high frequency and not to the level of voltage. Probably a simple transistor amplifier would fit better here.

#### Theoretical Research

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #102 on: October 31, 2017, 12:52:06 AM »
I wish .asc files were allowed as attachments. Attached is a zip file of a LTspice file of the present air core circuit. Hopefully there will be an improvement by tomorrow. When it's done and debugged I'll post all of the exact part numbers along with the exact directions to make the air core. A simple mixer circuit was used in this design. It could use a lot of improvements. The 0.5pF caps are a bit fishy, but anything larger will drown oscillator for some reason. There's probably a much better fix than using 0.5pF caps. I tried using 1Mohm resistors, but that renders the mixer useless. The problem is that the mixer input needs to measure the voltage across the core capacitor. If you find a good solution then please upload the circuit.

The L and C values in the LTspice file for the core are just guesstimates and will definitely change, probably by a lot.

I’m using four 2N2222 transistors in parallel because the oscillator loves it and it boosts the core current. I have better transistors here, but they’re not common like the 2N2222. Surely everyone here has some 2N2222 transistors, right? The mixer requires two 2N2222. It’s a good idea to have a few spare incase they burn up. Anyone who wants to replicate this who doesn’t have eight 2N2222 transistors please let me know and I’ll see if the circuit works good enough with three transistors.

I did a quick check on the transistor voltages in LTspice to see if they exceeded the 2N2222 max values. Looks okay, assuming my memory of the max values are correct. Although I know there’s a lot of differences between manufacturers. That alone could be a gotta in replicating. So I’ll need to set up some basic testing procedures so you can verify your circuit is working properly.

Just ignore the 3 groups of 100K & 4pF caps on the mixer output. That’s placed in there to filter the output for LTspice sims. The actual build shouldn’t need those, as the DVM will filter without problems, right?

#### mikemongo

• Newbie
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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #103 on: October 31, 2017, 01:20:07 PM »
I would like to add my personal observations. The first time I saw such a high power device I panicked because I swear there was faint smoke coming from the device. I thought my MOSFET was burning up. I see this faint smoke effect every time when the device is powered on. I don’t know how I can see this faint smoke, but have often wondered if other people would see it. It’s a mystery. Maybe it’s just a psychological effect? Idk. Has anyone ever noticed something like that?
I am very interest in this effect that you seen.  I could never find it again but there was a post in this forum
where someone else several years ago witnessed this.
Was it similar to seeing "heat devils" across the hood of a parked hot car, or seeing it when the ground or other object is much warmer than the ambient air?
Have you tried making a video of it?
If you add .pdf to the .asc file you should be able to post it, then whoever downloads it just needs to delete .pdf to use it.

#### profitis

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##### Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #104 on: October 31, 2017, 03:50:50 PM »
"Hopefully there will be an
improvement by tomorrow. When it's done and
debugged I'll post all of the exact part numbers along
with the exact directions to make the air core"

Well I dnt know if I'l post exact part no's but there's one very impotent part required ohk.I will post pics