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tinman

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Re: Bullcrap
« Reply #345 on: March 08, 2018, 01:38:50 AM »
@Tinman,

I mean it Brad I really believe you need to find help for your chronic psychosis. Read this comment:

When the Tesla serial bifilar solenoid is fully charged it goes into self resonance. The coil transforms into an LC tank that has a frequency determined by the ratio of the inductance of the coil in Henries and the capacitance between the windings in Farads. All one needs to do to sustain the oscillation is replace the power lost to resistance, which is minimal.

When the field begins to collapse in the bifilar inductor, the elastic held ferrite magnet piston is pulled away from the coil's ferrite core. The power of the magnet field is stored as electrical charge between the windings. When the charge reaches it's maximum level, it returns to the inductor as a magnetic field and the overhead magnet piston is once again attracted back towards the coil. This work is free of charge, minus the small amount of loss we need to replace with the inductive kickback. There's no size limit on the serial bifilar or the magnet piston. All one needs to do is run the magnet piston up and down inside an output coil and voila, FREE POWER for the people forever and ever.

As i said in my last post--you post garbage.
You have no idea of what you are reading--it is beyond you.

Learn the difference between the electric field,and the magnetic field.

tinman

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #346 on: March 08, 2018, 01:40:41 AM »
I ask myself the same question. Especially since my last little motor build using air core bi-fi coils is so much more efficient than any pulse motor I've built in the last 30 years.
Cheers

How did you determine the efficiency of your pulse motor hoptoad?.

synchro1

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Re: Bullcrap
« Reply #347 on: March 08, 2018, 01:41:39 AM »
As i said in my last post--you post garbage.
You have no idea of what you are reading--it is beyond you.

Learn the difference between the electric field,and the magnetic field.


@Tinman,


I'll come down there and kick your ass you dick sucker.

tinman

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #348 on: March 08, 2018, 01:43:59 AM »
@Magluvin,

Look Mags, this Tinman guy is using the "Fuck Off" vulgarity. I want you to have Stephan place him on moderated status.

You need to be careful syncro,as it wont be me that will be getting moderated.

I believe you have been there a couple of times before--for undue harassment of other members--such as you are doing now to TK.

Mags has already had to edit some of your posts for that very reason,and although myself and Mags may not be seeing eye to eye on this subject,he will still remain on the right side of the tracks.

tinman

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Re: Bullcrap
« Reply #349 on: March 08, 2018, 01:51:06 AM »

@Tinman,


I'll come down there and kick your ass you dick sucker.

Ah,a physical threat toward me lol

Be my guest.

Address is 5 Zanadu Court,Gelorup,Western Australia.


Better bring some mates with you as well.

See you when you get here.

synchro1

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Re: Bullcrap
« Reply #350 on: March 08, 2018, 02:28:21 AM »
Ah,a physical threat toward me lol

Be my guest.

Address is 5 Zanadu Court,Gelorup,Western Australia.


Better bring some mates with you as well.

See you when you get here.


@Tinman,


Listen dick head. 300 volts ain't gonna cut it. You need current to generate a magnetic field. The current surge from shorting across battery electrodes generates a powerful magnetic field and the collapse charges the bifilar coil. 300 volts can't generate any magnetism fool!

tinman

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Re: Bullcrap
« Reply #351 on: March 08, 2018, 02:47:49 AM »
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So,Mags was using how many volts?--i was using 7.2
Mag's push button switch is different from a transistor being used as a switch how?
My power supply is different to a battery how?
Was Mags using a power supply or battery?

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You need current to generate a magnetic field.

Well duh  ::)
And you need an electric field to produces an EMF across a pickup coil--is it sinking in yet?

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300 volts ain't gonna cut it.

What was the kickback voltage value in Mag's test?

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Listen dick head.The current surge from shorting across battery electrodes generates a powerful magnetic field and the collapse charges the bifilar coil.

Which is exactly what i was doing--> Dickhead,only i used a power supply like Mag's did.

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300 volts can't generate any magnetism fool!

Sooo,300 volts dropped across a coil with only 3.2 ohms resistance,and an inductive value of only 1.2mH,isnt going to produce any magnetic field ? ::)
So the power being dissipated from the 100 ohm resistor on the pickup coil-came from where?

Like i said--you are clueless.

synchro1

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #352 on: March 08, 2018, 02:50:38 AM »
My coil capacitance measures 3.33 uF, the inductance 78mH and the electrolytic capacitor 70uF. The resonant frequency of the bifilar coil is 312 Hertz and the resonant frequency of the LC tank 70 Hertz. This yields a co-efficient of 265 Cycles per minute. Look at the video again and tell me from counting the vibrations in the cork cocktail coaster if it's in that range or not.

tinman

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Re: Bullcrap
« Reply #353 on: March 08, 2018, 02:59:01 AM »
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@Tinman,


Listen dick head.

Unlike others Syncro (although i think your syncro's are shot,and you are nothing more than a crash box now),im happy to take your insults all day-every day,as it's nothing more than dribble.

So feel free to carry on,you have my full permission to waffle on as much as you like about me,say what ever you want about me,it wont bother me a bit,as i am enjoying reading your funny post's about how electric and magnetic fields work,and which way the inductive kickback current flows through an inductor.
I also love how you measure current flow with your magic DMM,that reads the same value on both AC and DC  :D

Your inability to understand how an alternating current can be produced by a spinning ball magnet,is second to none.
The fact that you dont understand that your reed switch will be closed twice per revolution of the spinning ball magnet is also comical  ;D

So carry on syncro--your doing a marvelous job there. ::)

synchro1

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #354 on: March 08, 2018, 03:04:56 AM »

@Tinman,


Just shut you shithead.

The R.P.M. of the Reed switch spinner needs to match the resonance of the bifilar to pump the magnet piston. If the ball speeds up to fast the piston oscillation stops. The resonant frequency of the bifilar coil alone is over 18 thousand cycles per minute, so the addition of the 70uF capacitor is needed to bring the frequency co-efficent down to 265 cycles per minute where the resonant magnetic magnetic field can grab ahold of the magnet piston.

tinman

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #355 on: March 08, 2018, 03:52:05 AM »
@Tinman,


Just shut you shithead.

The R.P.M. of the Reed switch spinner needs to match the resonance of the bifilar to pump the magnet piston. If the ball speeds up to fast the piston oscillation stops. The resonant frequency of the bifilar coil alone is over 18 thousand cycles per minute, so the addition of the 70uF capacitor is needed to bring the frequency co-efficent down to 265 cycles per minute where the resonant magnetic magnetic field can grab ahold of the magnet piston.

Let me guess--you have not tried this with a monofilar coil,nor have you any energy in to energy out calculations to show-->of course you will be using that magic DMM of yours to make the calculations  ::)

You have a spinning ball magnet,that closes a reed switch(twice each revolution of the ball magnet),which powers up the magical bifilar coil,which in turn provides the energy required to pump your magnetic piston that is suspended from a string,which dose what?

Keep going syncro-love reading your post's.
Dont forget to keep those insults up  ;)

hoptoad

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #356 on: March 08, 2018, 07:08:52 AM »
How did you determine the efficiency of your pulse motor hoptoad?.
Power draw versus torque. Admittedly, I'm NOT using a bi-filar in the classical sense that you are all talking about here.
Cheers

tinman

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #357 on: March 08, 2018, 07:38:46 AM »
Power draw versus torque. Admittedly,
Cheers

Well it is actually refreshing to see some one take the torque into consideration,as most only go for P/in verses charge battery voltage  :D

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I'm NOT using a bi-filar in the classical sense that you are all talking about here.

Care to share your design?


Brad

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #358 on: March 08, 2018, 07:43:13 AM »
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@Tinman,

Just shut you shithead.


hoptoad

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Re: Inductive Kickback
« Reply #359 on: March 08, 2018, 08:06:40 AM »
Well it is actually refreshing to see some one take the torque into consideration,as most only go for P/in verses charge battery voltage  :D
Care to share your design?
Brad
As you are well aware, I've shared much information on this site, freely and without hesitation. But that's been long after I have had the opportunity to fully explore and understand a given path looking for a given prerequisite.

At the moment I am playing with old ideas in a new way, and when I think I more fully understand the operation and limitations of the method I'm playing with, I'll directly share.

However, here's a little hint. It closely relates to an experiment carried out in 2011 and detailed on my old blog in 2012.
Page 13 Fig 2 and Fig 4 give a starting point. Some elements need changing or discarding.

https://adamsinfo.000webhostapp.com

Going over old work with a fresh eye provided by another person has presented an interesting torque result.
Not overunity, but rather, what I have been particularly looking for. An electric motor that has raw grunt under load over a broad rpm range.

Being time poor myself due to many commitments, I would not hold your breathe waiting on me to reveal a simple circuit (after fully exploring its parameters myself) when I know you are capable of deducing it yourself, in the meantime. The circuits shown are not exactly what I am using now, but close enough for a starting point. The changes needed are minor and few, but elemental to function for the purpose of running torque.

The method I am currently using does NOT increase maximum breaking torque (at nearly zero rpm), instead it acts like a turbo charger, increasing the running torque at higher rpm.

Cheers and don't forget we all have the capacity to K.I.S.S.  :)