Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy (Read 3558516 times)

tinman · « **Reply #5970 on:** October 29, 2015, 10:22:07 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on October 29, 2015, 05:06:01 AM

Brad:

Now the "invisible" parasitic capacitances and inductances become "visible." The circuit that you have your scope probes attached to is literally a different circuit than the circuit on paper, and therefore the power computation is invalid.

Chances are if you touch any part of the circuit with the tip of your finger you will see a noticeable change in the waveforms. You may even see slight changes in the waveforms just by approaching the circuit with your hand but not touching it.

Almost any circuit will do things like this when you drive them at very high frequencies. The invisible capacitors and inductors come out of the woodwork and start to affect everything. So no negative resistance in sight.

The suggestion is to pick a reasonable frequency like 500 Hz or 1 KHz and do most of your testing at that much lower frequency.

MileHigh

Agreed on all accounts.

shylo · « **Reply #5971 on:** October 29, 2015, 08:33:15 PM »

It's funny, how everytime the offshoots of misdirection arise.
Steer away from the subject at hand , and there have been many.
People that think , won't forget, people that only listen ,it will just slip on by.

Tinnman, your work is top notch.
The next step is to try 2 inner cores.
What happens if you can build a xfrmr with multiple inner cores

Multiple interactions , is there any math that can even calculate it, I doubt it.
The formula's are constantly changing.
One question ; When you potted the innner core , Did you use magnets on the outside of the core form to align the domains?
Or did it just settle to the inherent magnetic field?
Or was it only the outside core that was potted?
Thank-you for all your work.
artv

Dog-One · « **Reply #5972 on:** October 30, 2015, 02:05:21 AM »

A little something for you gurus with 3D Printers:
https://www.lulzbot.com/products/magnetic-iron-pla-3mm-filament-500g-reel-proto-pasta

Simply print your cores, wind your mag-wire and test. No need to fuss with molds and such.
And the beauty in doing this is you can change your core density simply by adjusting your fill pattern/percentage.
Want to do multiply inner cores like shylo suggests? No problem.

If you don't already have a 3D Printer, may I suggest one of these for starters:
https://www.lulzbot.com/products/lulzbot-mini-3d-printer

Cheers and good luck at all!

MileHigh · « **Reply #5973 on:** October 30, 2015, 04:27:34 AM »

Brad:

You have to understand that when you are discussing something then two viewpoints mean a two way street for both viewpoints. You allege that I am trying to force my view on you. But if you object to what I say then you are trying to force your view onto me. Don't you get that?

Look, you said, "Flux velocity through the secondary exceeds that of what the primary projects." That is nonsense. There is just a B field, and magnetic flux density and total magnetic flux, and all of the coupling effects are determined by the rate of change of magnetic flux with respect to time.

You get upset when I say that and accuse me of forcing my opinion on you? But if you object to what I say then you are forcing your opinion on me. Do you see? Beyond that good luck finding a credible source about magnetism that talks about "flux velocity." It seems you are making up your own definitions on the fly. That has severe limitations.

You are going to go ahead and ignore some of the stuff that I say, that's your prerogative. But like I said before, when all is said and done, if you are wrong after all of your testing is done and the real experts around here give you guidance and suggestions that you listen to, then state your conclusions and account for your theories and state if they were right or wrong. If not you get people saying things like, "The 'radiant energy spike' is voltage with almost no measurable current." And after all this time I am pretty sure that you know that by definition the "radiant energy spike" is a pulse of current at a certain voltage. That's the kind of B.S. that we all want to avoid.

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So many here believe that a permanent magnet cannot do useful work-so let me ask you these questions
1--> Is work required to align the magnetic domains within a piece of iron?
2-->If the magnetic domains within a given material(e.g 316 S/S)do not,will not align,will that material be attracted to a magnetic field.

For starters, I gave you a full explanation on another thread how you are being deceived by your measurements when you add a magnet to a system and see improved performance. A permanent magnet cannot do useful work.

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, of course work is required.
2. There is no easy answer to that question in generic sense. For example 316 stainless steel may not be attracted by a magnet, but there may be a small amount of material in the alloy that does indeed respond to magnetic fields and so there may be a weak magnetic attraction with very strong magnetic fields. I am just taking a guess and not looking anything up.

MileHigh

MileHigh · « **Reply #5974 on:** October 30, 2015, 04:31:05 AM »

Webby1:

Look at the first part of my previous posting and let it sink in.

MileHigh

minnie · « **Reply #5975 on:** October 30, 2015, 10:02:20 AM »

I must admit I get a great deal of enjoyment from this forum,
it sure has a high "comedy" content.
This thing has got to about 400 pages and in reality got
nowhere.
It reminds me of the Pied Piper, people following the likes
of EMJ,UFO and The Tinman.
There must have been billions of transformers and inductors
made by now and they were one of the first electrical components
to be developed.
Surely the answer must lie in the math first and foremost, bad
measurements only lead one up the proverbial !
I'll just have a gander at my seaweed to see if it's safe to
cut hay.

MileHigh · « **Reply #5976 on:** October 30, 2015, 06:29:36 PM »

Quote from: webby1 on October 30, 2015, 12:26:34 PM

Indeed MH,, YOU should read that part right after you typed "Brad,"

Now,, remove the negative labels you chose to use,, a little later on in your post,, and think about it.

You have your views and understanding and as soon as something differs from them,, well then,, they become absurd, ridiculous,, and the list goes on.

How do you expect to be taken seriously when you act like that so often MH.

If some claim about a technical point is junk, then you can say it's junk and the person making the claim can undertake to prove otherwise on their own initiative. You watch and see if my technical statements about basic elementary magnetism get refuted or not. Saying a technical claim is junk is not a personal attack so deal with it. I said that Wayne's technical points were junk and look now, he is being investigated by the FBI. He took in nearly a million dollars in investment money and has delivered nothing because his claims were junk. He and his wife may end up in prison. He preached total junk and I stated it was junk.

Meanwhile, on this very thread I have seen one person personally attacked and demeaned by another person over and over and over. And I haven't heard a single word about that from you.

picowatt · « **Reply #5977 on:** October 30, 2015, 06:55:03 PM »

http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/feature-bizarre-reactor-might-save-nuclear-fusion

Talk about some complex magnetic engineering.

We will likely one day regret wasting our dwindling supply of helium on military aerostats and party balloons...

PW

EMJunkie · « **Reply #5978 on:** October 30, 2015, 09:54:22 PM »

Quote from: minnie on October 30, 2015, 10:02:20 AM

I must admit I get a great deal of enjoyment from this forum,
it sure has a high "comedy" content.
This thing has got to about 400 pages and in reality got
nowhere.
It reminds me of the Pied Piper, people following the likes
of EMJ,UFO and The Tinman.
There must have been billions of transformers and inductors
made by now and they were one of the first electrical components
to be developed.
Surely the answer must lie in the math first and foremost, bad
measurements only lead one up the proverbial !
I'll just have a gander at my seaweed to see if it's safe to
cut hay.

I think the Pied Piper game is a bit on the nose John!

Who is the Pied Piper and who are the Rats? Gee Whiz old mate!

Here is another Equation for you, see if you and your Physicist mate can muddle through it and make something work real world style:

EMF = emf = -N dPhi/dt + emf = Bvl

Now that you have used the 400 pages to practice inserting Farm Animals and Machinery maybe you can use your newly found skills to show us how this equation works?

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

EMJunkie · « **Reply #5979 on:** October 30, 2015, 10:12:13 PM »

Quote from: picowatt on October 30, 2015, 06:55:03 PM

http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/feature-bizarre-reactor-might-save-nuclear-fusion

Talk about some complex magnetic engineering.

We will likely one day regret wasting our dwindling supply of helium on military aerostats and party balloons...

PW

PW - €1 billion Stellarator - What a total waste of money! As have been Tomamaks!!!

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W7-X could mark a turning point

WOW, that's a lot of could for €1 billion...

Thanks for sharing the article PW.

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

picowatt · « **Reply #5980 on:** October 30, 2015, 11:17:49 PM »

Quote from: EMJunkie on October 30, 2015, 10:12:13 PM

PW - €1 billion Stellarator - What a total waste of money! As have been Tomamaks!!!

WOW, that's a lot of could for €1 billion...

Thanks for sharing the article PW.

Chris Sykes

Even if a hot fusion reactor is never deemed practical, I disagree about this being a "waste of money".

A lot has been learned from all the hot fusion research.

I thought you were a big advocate for experimentation...

PW

minnie · « **Reply #5981 on:** October 30, 2015, 11:56:54 PM »

I nearly got my head bitten off when I put the question to a
famous physicist, I daren't ask her again.
I think if you're harvesting energy from "the vacuum" you
ought to be detecting Hawking radiation.
If you don't like me just Jerry Dekker what I put.
I can't see the hot fusion project as a waste of money,
could well have significant spin offs even if it don't work.
I love the ability to share things with you and supposedly
that was a spin off from CERN.
Morocco is showing the way with solar and there's interesting
stuff coming on regarding long distance ultra high voltage DC.
There's also progress in flow battery development,all exciting
stuff, I only wish I was 50 years younger!

EMJunkie · « **Reply #5982 on:** October 31, 2015, 01:51:23 AM »

Quote from: picowatt on October 30, 2015, 11:17:49 PM

Even if a hot fusion reactor is never deemed practical, I disagree about this being a "waste of money".

A lot has been learned from all the hot fusion research.

I thought you were a big advocate for experimentation...

PW

PW, Practical Experimentation, yes...

Do you think 1 Billion Pounds on a risky device like this is practical?

Really, if a dollar is well spent on a experiment and Risk is minimal, then maybe it might be worth it.

Tokamak's are some 60 Years in the making, not one has been practical! Worked as it was supposed to work...

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

EMJunkie · « **Reply #5983 on:** October 31, 2015, 02:05:37 AM »

The title of an Article is always an Important statement!

From MIT: "Thermoelectrically Pumped Light-Emitting Diodes Operating above Unity Efficiency"

So, to you Naysayers, here, you're all no longer needed! MIT is doing OU Work and has done for some time - March 2012

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Abstract:
A heated semiconductor light-emitting diode at low forward bias voltage V<kBT/q is shown to use electrical work to pump heat from the lattice to the photon field. Here the rates of both radiative and nonradiative recombination have contributions at linear order in V. As a result the device’s wall-plug (i.e., power conversion) efficiency is inversely proportional to its output power and diverges as V approaches zero. Experiments directly confirm for the first time that this behavior continues beyond the conventional limit of unity electrical-to-optical power conversion efficiency.

Yes Reference is Cited and Attached: Ref: Thermoelectrically Pumped Light-Emitting Diodes Operating above Unity Efficiency

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

picowatt · « **Reply #5984 on:** October 31, 2015, 02:12:31 AM »

Quote from: EMJunkie on October 31, 2015, 01:51:23 AM

PW, Practical Experimentation, yes...

Do you think 1 Billion Pounds on a risky device like this is practical?

How else will we know if this method produces better confinement?

I wish there were more funds available to spend on such things.

Science for the sake of science is expensive...

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Really, if a dollar is well spent on a experiment and Risk is minimal, then maybe it might be worth it.

Tokamak's are some 60 Years in the making, not one has been practical! Worked as it was supposed to work...

Again, how does one know what will work without actually performing the experiments? We know that (controlled) hot fusion actually works, that happens every day in labs (and homes) throughout the world. It is producing controlled fusion with a net energy gain that is the problem. I was disappointed way back when the AEC decided to spend money more so exclusively on Tokamaks instead of polywell fusors and some of the aneutronic proposals. Most likely that funding was pushed that direction by heavy lobbying. However, politics and greed aside, I would like to see more money spent on science and R&D in general.

PW

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