Author Topic: Vaccinations; recent developments (Read 498501 times)

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #930 on:** February 03, 2015, 07:58:52 PM »

Quote from: Sark-Eizen

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You can say "greed" or "it's not a real condition" as much as you want but they are just empty words unless you can tell me what's going on.

Unless that's all you have...empty words?

Until you reach the stage in your life development
where you've become ready to 'handle the TRUTH'
your programming will see all that is in disagreement
with your deceived belief system as 'empty words.'

Only you will know when you've reached that plateau.

Only you have the responsibility to find TRUTH.

It will happen; whether you want it to or not.

Cap-Z-ro · « **Reply #931 on:** February 03, 2015, 08:22:23 PM »

He' a paid shill for the luva god !

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #932 on:** February 03, 2015, 09:02:43 PM »

The technology has long existed which would enable
the production of vaccines which are completely safe
and completely effective at inducing immunity to disease.

That the present Medical System of the Establishment
chooses instead to produce faulty vaccines which are
intended to adversely affect the health of those who
receive them via vaccination speaks volumes.

Love of Money.

Sick and diseased people represent Money.

The Medical Establishment is naught more than
a Money-Making Business which does only enough
to effect 'cure' to sustain its deceptive veneer of
'doing good.'

Sickness=Money

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro

He' a paid shill for the luva god !

And so it would seem. There are many.

Fortunately, their 'arguments' are found to be
un-persuasive. Their following is tiny.

sarkeizen · « **Reply #933 on:** February 03, 2015, 10:50:31 PM »

Quote from: SeaMonkey on February 03, 2015, 07:58:52 PM

your programming will see all that is in disagreement with your deceived belief system as 'empty words.'

Nope. If it was just "programming" then I couldn't show you how your words are empty. So thanks for defeating your own argument.

If you recall I first asked: Do people with no other medical diagnosis but with a real medical problem go into a doctors office and get a diagnosis of ADHD and then I asked: Do you think this is the case with most people who have a diagnosis of ADHD.

You can whine about "love of money" or "greed" until you feel smarter but those words don't say anything about if the people who get diagnoses have a real problem or not. This is why your words are empty.

You can keep deflecting and squirming but it won't make you any smarter.

P.S. You posted a link that I would gladly read if you found the really strong bits and posted them here. You haven't so that means it wasn't worth reading right? Thanks.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #934 on:** February 04, 2015, 02:12:27 AM »

Funny thing. Today on the radio, the news announced that Obama has seen the research and vaccines have no connection to autism whatsoever.
In 2008, his soundbite in his own voice claimed that vaccines were poising our children and putting them at higher risk for autism.

He now claims that anyone that does not want children vaccinated, must hate children. Funny thing about that is, in his budget he submitted, he cut the funding for child vaccinations by 50%!!

So, does this add anything useful to this conversation/debate? No. It simply shows that our "brilliant" president can play both sides and hope we forget what he said before. 2 days ago, he claimed he was the first president since Washington to brew "Booze" in the white house. Well, Washington was never in the white house as president (it was not built at that time) and, you do not brew booze, booze is distilled. Other than that, he was correct.

What an idiot!

Bill

orbut 3000 · « **Reply #935 on:** February 04, 2015, 02:23:04 AM »

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/09/09/barack-obama-provaccine/

$:-\$

sarkeizen · « **Reply #936 on:** February 04, 2015, 02:49:04 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 04, 2015, 02:12:27 AM

No. It simply shows that our "brilliant" president can play both sides and hope we forget what he said before.

The quote I found said this: "We’ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it’s connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it."

The best light I think one can read this in is that he has corrected his view and didn't say "ooops" which would have been awesome but I hold a low bar for politicians. Hillary was a bit closer but she supported a vaxxed/unvaxxed study which would have been a waste of research dollars. McCain pretty much outright blamed mercury for autism.

So when grading on a curve...

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #937 on:** February 04, 2015, 03:19:58 AM »

Quote from: sarkeizen on February 04, 2015, 02:49:04 AM

The quote I found said this: "We’ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it’s connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it."

The best light I think one can read this in is that he has corrected his view and didn't say "ooops" which would have been awesome but I hold a low bar for politicians. Hillary was a bit closer but she supported a vaxxed/unvaxxed study which would have been a waste of research dollars. McCain pretty much outright blamed mercury for autism.

So when grading on a curve...

True enough Sark. But, and no one on either side is talking about this...the reason obama is going to use his executive powers to ORDER measles vaccinations is really due to his allowing (from another exec. order) 50,000 illegal children into the US and once here, dispersed to secret locations around the US where they are now attending school. We had eradicated the measles in this country as you are aware. Now, there is a shocking rise of this disease and no one can figure out why it is back. Give me a break. He caused this problem (illegally using powers he does not have) and now, he is going to order all children vaccinated...EXCEPT, illegals as he claims we have no jurisdiction over them.

I mean, can you believe this crap?

Now, the repubs are the bad guys because they are questioning his power to order parents to have their children vaccinated. A lot of parents do not want to do this due, mostly to the unsubstantiated rumors of a tie between vaccinations and autism. So, to me, the answer is to give the parents the choice, and educate them on the risks and benefits using real math from real studies. (Like the numbers you have been using)

I do not like to be ordered to do anything. I refuse (mostly because it is no where near affordable for me) to participate in the obamacare nightmare...nor will I ever pay the fine. (I can not afford that either) The fine, right now, is half of what I make/month. The cost of participating is 90% of my monthly income for a $10,000 deductible plan. No way I can do this.

This sucks.

Bill

MarkE · « **Reply #938 on:** February 04, 2015, 04:26:01 AM »

Unvaccinated children should not be allowed to attend school: PERIOD.

orbut 3000 · « **Reply #939 on:** February 04, 2015, 04:28:45 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 04, 2015, 03:19:58 AM

I mean, can you believe this crap?

No, it sounds a little too weird.

Maybe it's only half as scary if you try to research and find out the lower-caps truth. The secret import of 'illegal' children sounds pretty much like the usual scaremongering truther/birther bullshit the mentally slow are fed by the Koch brothers and their drones. Tea-Party material to fvck the poor and uneducated just a little bit more.

joel321 · « **Reply #940 on:** February 04, 2015, 04:53:46 AM »

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http://www.naturalnews.com/048483_vaccine_research_scientific_fraud_Merck.html#ixzz3QeqeWzk7

This makes perfect sense in everything.

-relationships.
-greed.
-businesses.

So there is no trusting VACCINATIONS 100% period.

I'm not really an expert in this but even it can make sense in a production line. Some people may believe that I'm out of topic but is the same thing. In a production, they all have deadlines to meet. Those deadlines when given on time = GREAT PROFITS.

When somting happens in their production that is going to delay their product and not meet their quota, the GREED in the mind starts to do crazy things. Like

“And adding rabbit antibodies as a supplement to a vaccine was not an option because it could result in serious complications to a human, even death.”

“Emini responded that the rabbit antibodies were necessary for Merck to achieve the project's objective.“

What just happened right there is GREED. Negligence of the health of human beings as to achieve the "objective" = MEET THE QUOTA.

So what happens is that they got payed by CHEATING at the risk of potentially killing people and then afterwards playing the “blaming game” accompanied with “lets destroy the data" 007 style.

This is a perfect scenario that GREED is a big disease.

This is why I say that vaccines are mostly a cash cow business. There is no way of stopping them because then how do they make their money?

Then all of the ignorant people who are not very well educated start to blame other things. Yet their TV remote control has fecal mater all over the buttons. Lol = ignorance is a disease. I'm not even joking. The dirtiest item in the living room is the TV remote and highly probable due to fecal mater. in a civilized modern world, with education, why do we still have cave men KNOWLEDGE! lol

sarkeizen · « **Reply #941 on:** February 04, 2015, 05:29:37 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 04, 2015, 03:19:58 AM

But, and no one on either side is talking about this...the reason obama is going to use his executive powers to ORDER measles vaccinations is really due to his allowing (from another exec. order) 50,000 illegal children into the US and once here, dispersed to secret locations around the US where they are now attending school.

What I read said they are with their relatives.

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Now, there is a shocking rise of this disease and no one can figure out why it is back.

Nobody knows exactly but evidence suggests declining immunization. Measles is an exceptionally contagious disease. 10-15x more contagious than influenza. However it is almost perfectly controllable. Two doses of the vaccine is as close to 100% effective. Immigration seems like a long shot - it would depend on where the children are from. I would assume that people crossing the Texas border are predominantly from Mexico. Mexico has a better childhood vaccination rate than the US.

Cap-Z-ro · « **Reply #942 on:** February 04, 2015, 05:37:53 AM »

And then there's the depopulation agenda as per the Georgia Guidestones dictate.

The care so much about us...just ask them.

Regards...

orbut 3000 · « **Reply #943 on:** February 04, 2015, 05:38:51 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/15/us/questions-about-the-border-kids.html

Some answers...

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #944 on:** February 04, 2015, 06:10:59 AM »

Quote from: sarkeizen on February 04, 2015, 05:29:37 AM

What I read said they are with their relatives. Nobody knows exactly but evidence suggests declining immunization. Measles is an exceptionally contagious disease. 10-15x more contagious than influenza. However it is almost perfectly controllable. Two doses of the vaccine is as close to 100% effective. Immigration seems like a long shot - it would depend on where the children are from. I would assume that people crossing the Texas border are predominantly from Mexico. Mexico has a better childhood vaccination rate than the US.

No, the kids crossed through Mexico and are from Guatemala,, Uruguay, and Ecuador. Not staying with relatives, they have none in the US...yet. They will be coming next. The border patrol reported that many, many of these kids were very sick, with high fever and other symptoms. The Gov. of TN found out that like 5,000 of these kids were shipped to his state and the Feds will not tell him how many, and where they are. Mexico, which has tough immigration laws, would not allow them to stay there but did allow them to pass through after obama requested this.

Bill

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