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joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #870 on: January 31, 2015, 08:08:10 AM »
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How do you know what an "affectation" is?  If you don't - why are you using it (in an entirely unused inflection).  If you looked it up why didn't look up "strand" or "born" or the other words that you use incorrectly?

Because it is just a BARRIER of just understanding the word definitions. Now that I understand what you mean by 'affectioning' does not change my main points that I was trying to say before I didn't know what you mean by that...nor 'strain'.

The facts still remain that the flu shot only helps to prevent the predominant flu strain and that is not a 100% sure guarantee that it will help you 100% sure you will not get the flu if you get a flu shot because the flu virus may mutate way faster than the strain "CURE" for that shot 'cause the virus will always MUTATE!

Regardless the definitions of words, 100% sure know, and all flu shot makers, that it is WAYYY better to not get sick in the fist place than to get vaccinated from all viruses in the world! Is there even medicine to protect from all viruses in the world!? You want to find that GOD shot where just by taking one, you will be immune from all viruses in the world?

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but you use words like "affectation"? or you think it's a good idea to use words like "affectation"?

Well that is the word you choose to try to DEFINE my intentions. I just learned that word by “debating” with you only. Still, does not change the way I think because the past has greater knowledge than just mere words.

And you still can't accept the fact that there is a lot of miscommunication in this world, the English language is not perfect! No language is. That's why we need to look from different angels to understand the ULTIMATE GOAL, and not just get stuck in other things.

Let me weigh your BS on a scale!
 
stitches are better than avoidance of the cut?

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I have no doubt it's coming from you it just looks like an affectation

Please allow your ego of trying to teach me the English language to go away because it does not matter.

As a matter of fact, affectation only lives in your world of trying to define how viruses work since you used it to define how viruses work. When you told me AFFECTATION, is when I understood that word ONLY! I'm sure a lawyer or a judge has never used that word in their everyday life!

Oops! I'm teaching you about simple stuff and oops! Why have you deviated so far from the main point about vaccinations to being an expert regarding VOCABULARY?

Stay on point please. Lol

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a) You think yourself qualified to diagnose ADHD and b) blame 23 changes of topic on me.

Yes I'm qualified to diagnose ADHD because I “suffer” from it too. And I understand that it is not due to GENETIC but more from LEARNED BEHAVIOR. And 100000% sure that there is no pill to cure it since if there was, it should have been LOOOONG gone like chicken pox!

It is pretty simple! You don't need to think that hard to figure it out in fact COMMERCIALS also cause  OCD = obsessive compulsive disorder!

I kind of find it weird that these experts CANNOT see this obvious things!

In fact! I don't know why shaking hands has not being made illegal. Where  I work, I'm DISGUSTED how many people use the bathroom and DONNOT wash their hands.

You need to BREAK FREE FROM IGNORANCE! You will live longer and avoid many illnesses NO PILLS!

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Well good that saves us days of trying to get you pick a better word.

Words don't just come to existence by themselves! Words are like playing domino! We just need to pick the right ones to win the game! That is all. Language is just communicating. They don't change reality.

Take for example “the milky way” (our galaxy) how the fuck is it milky in any way? Lol or even a “WAY”? What? Your unconcious mind just learns to know what it means with out even using the right word to define it!!!

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Which makes no sense not because it's hard but because you would expect what you call a dose/response relationship.  That is you would expect some level of tolerance.  As someone who receives such a low dose of commercials that I didn't even know that the superbowl was this weekend until someone asked me.  If I had ADD because of commercials then I would certainly be cured by now.

Yeah, well you see PILLS don't work that WAY...lol. ADD starts as  as KID watching sponge bob square pants! Lol

Your ADD will never go away that simple nor by taking pills IF IT CANNOT BE CURED FROM THE ROOTS!

This means that your will have ADD all of your life till you go to heaven! It is way better to live with and accept where it comes from than to live your life takings pills! Since tell me of a MAGIC PILL that cures it?

The same thing is with OCD = obsessive compulsive disorder! That is also a learned behavior and i'm not even a expert regarding this!

Obsession only comes when people don't understand KNOWLEDGE! REPETITIVE WRONG repetitions! Being obsesive is just trying to find something where it's just FALSE HOPES of NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND THE CURE! The one becomes desperate! OBSESSIVE!

Why am I even explaining this to you! You are so smart you should know this already!

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Actually what you first need to do is cure a number of people.

Well I wish but I don't have the time nor the years. I'm just trying to ENLIGHTEN those that want to be enlighten! That is all. To be honest, at this point, I believe that WE ALL HAVE ADD. Just like everything else, there are VARIABLES (genetic and behavioral) where some are more aching to suffer more than others, but that is just in the mind more than anything!

From looking at different angles, I see many UPON many studies that other people do always points to BEHAVIRAL “disease”.

I have even seen where schizophrenic people are more crazy in one continent than in another! This relates to how socialism works. = the way of thinking = what influenced you in thinking that way in the first place? Not hard to see just hard to teach!

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In case nobody told you this.  If people don't believe you it isn't necessarily because they are stubborn.  It's often because you think your opinion is better than theirs and you expect them to believe you MAINLY BECAUSE YOU SAID IT!

NO! we only learn in this world = We only teach what we learn! IGNORANCA and GREED makes you believe that we can create wolds. There is A LOT of things that your mind is VIRGIN to that you don't even know!

The same as drug dealers are trying to sell drugs and kill people because of GREEN, the same thing happens in medicine and even in SCIENCE!

We have a responsibility to stop these innocent killings!

A perfect example is the nazis. While hitler was crazy, he made many inventions! But many lives payed due to HIS CORRUPTION! But eventually MORALITY WON THAT BATTLE! And I know 100% THAT CORRUPTION CANNOT BE CURED WITH A PILL! It is inevitable!

You just not that informed about the world....tell me that there is no billionaire right now trying to do some crazy stuff to the world? Blah blah blah...even if you knew, what will do you? Nothing!

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Last post you said you were only speaking to help others.   Which one are you lying about?

I'm pretty sure someone is being enlighten by what I type and I'm pretty sure i'm just responding to you based mostly on entertainment more than anything!

I'm using you as a way to spread my knowledge :P

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Someone who is 100% sure is someone who can never be convinced that they are wrong.  However that is only possible through ego and arrogance.  Funny how you think other people have problems with that but not yourself

I said “I 100% sure know that KNOWLEDGE is the CURE!” and this is your explanation!

Look how simple it is!

Cave man: god gave us fire!

Modern man: j p morgan gave us light!

That is j p morgan knowledge! Hold on, do you even make money by taking a pill? I would like to take a pill that gives me the KNOWLEDGE to make millions.
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Too many logical fallacies to list in that clause.

Have you asked the EARTHS' opinion?

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I'm focusing on whatever you post - trying to address your issues.  That's what a polite person would do.  Perhaps you should change what you post?

LOL you keep on dissecting everything I say and take it out of context! = instead of QUOTING my whole paragraphs, you just chop them up in too little pieces and QUOTE me = taking things out of context = ADD/OCD = you need pills! Lol

It has been obvious that you are just NIT PICKING my answers for a while now!

I understand that you believing that i'm 26 times OFF TOPIC of what you speak off...because you are not looking at things from different ANGELS!

While you see me as “being off topic” I'm 100% in topic but looking at things from 26 different angels = mental science baby and a bigger brain! Lol

That is how wireless electronics work too! Or even satellites! As a matter of fact, even by looking at things from 3 different angles is what gives the phone towers your location! TRIANGULATIOON! = looking at things from different angles!

Hold on, even by the mere of Angles, tells you what is an angel or a circle! What!? Lol

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Nope.  I think I'm correct because of the research I have read.  My buddies are laughing because you are funny.

So from where does this “research” comes from? Maybe from “evolution”? = mistakes gives knowledge = knowledge is the cure!

Or did you take a pill?

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So why don't I get to pick and you have to beat me?

Ok what's your pick? lol

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #871 on: January 31, 2015, 08:09:51 AM »
Sark,

This is especially for you! 8) :)

The lines are good.  Surprisingly, you make your
appearance at about 3 minutes in the still shot. :o ::)

I feel your pain Sark!  You've truly got a massive
uphill struggle.  Best wishes to ye! ;) :)

Break a leg now! ;D ???

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #872 on: January 31, 2015, 08:19:43 AM »
So Joel still thinks that Moonshiners is a real show.  My friends at work all had a good laugh on that one.

He does not like the WIKI ref....so..OK..he should google the show and see all 10,925 entries that say the show is fake.

Joel, you said I should go to where the show is filmed...but...I already told you that I live in KY.  Everyone here is familiar with that show and they know when it is being filmed.

Did you know that John Carpenter the director (Halloween, The Thing, etc.) lives here in my town?  So does the Gong Show creator song writer (Palisades Park) and author Chuck Barris.  If you watch the original movie Halloween, he references street names from here in Bowling Green, KY.  The guy that story is based upon is buried here in town also.

Senator Rand Paul also lives here in town as well.  I used to guard his neighborhood, but 3 years ago I got assigned to another post.

John Carpenter and Adriane Barbeau were actually at my wedding rehearsal dinner. Well, they were seated at a nearby table at the same restaurant.  That should have been a warning to me not to get married, haha.

Bill

PS  All Corvettes in the world since 1981 are built here also.
PPS  Here is a photo to me from Woz, the inventor of the Apple Computer. Here he is pictured with the Apple II.
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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #873 on: January 31, 2015, 09:24:44 AM »
Sark,

This is especially for you! 8) :)

The lines are good.  Surprisingly, you make your
appearance at about 3 minutes in the still shot. :o ::)

I feel your pain Sark!  You've truly got a massive
uphill struggle.  Best wishes to ye! ;) :)

Break a leg now! ;D ???

That's interesting but, the upper 1% pay 45% of the taxes in the US.  The top 10% pay 80% of the taxes.  49% of the people here pay 0 taxes!  So, everyone hates the rich...yes, whatever.  The more you tax the rich, the less they invest...in things like business, expansion, investments...etc.  Taxing the rich hurts the middle and lower class.  A rich guy wants to get richer...so he builds a mall....creates thousands of jobs not counting the building of the mall.  Increase his taxes on his profits...and he will not build that mall.  This is so simple yet not taught in schools any more.

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"I never got a job from a poor man."  Warren Buffet.

Bill

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« Reply #874 on: January 31, 2015, 09:51:21 AM »
Now, back on topic....

I heard a radio public service announcement today that said...(paraphrasing) Even though this year's flu shot will not likely prevent you from getting the flu...we strongly urge everyone to get the shot anyway.  There MAY be some benefit in lessening the symptoms of the other strains of flu virus."

OK, so, now this I do not agree with.  I know how hard it is to pick a specific strain of flu and predict that it will be the main one of the season and then create a vaccine for this.  But, when you miss it...which happens often, why would you spend taxpayer dollars playing radio ads suggesting the above?  There MAY be some benefit?

We all can agree that there is always some risk taking a flu shot. (.000001%-whatever)  So why should we take one when they admit that they missed it this year (totally understandable) and they come up with the idea that it "MAY" help lesson flu symptoms? 

I have to draw the line here.  I am not saying that it is more risky to get a shot that "MAY" help than getting the flu, but I have to say that this approach seems a bit disingenuous.  I call them like I see them.  Is anyone else hearing these radio ads?

Bill

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« Reply #875 on: January 31, 2015, 06:33:08 PM »
Because it is just a BARRIER of just understanding the word definitions.
That doesn't explain how you know what the word means.  Either you looked it up or you didn't.  If you looked it up then why didn't you look up all those other words that you used poorly and if you didn't why would you keep using a word without knowing what it means?
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Now that I understand what you mean by 'affectioning'
Someone who knows what affectation means doesn't use 'affectioning' as an inflection. :)
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The facts still remain that the flu shot only helps to prevent the predominant flu strain
Wrong. As discussed vaccines promote immunity against a serotype not a strain.  There are many strains to the serotype.  This means that vaccines do not only protect against a single strain.  Furthermore there is always the possibility of cross-species protection.  As, again discussed the example of vericella vaccine providing protection against HSV I and HSV II.   
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and that is not a 100% sure guarantee that it will help you 100% sure you will not get the flu
This is irrelevant to the discussion. :)
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cause the virus will always MUTATE!
Not necessarily to the degree which will allow it to avoid being stopped by the vaccine.
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that it is WAYYY better to not get sick in the fist place than to get vaccinated from all viruses in the world!
Probably not.  Viruses as we now know can be precursors to all sorts of other diseases.  Even if you don't appear sick you can get sick much later on.
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Well that is the word you choose to try to DEFINE my intentions. I just learned that word by “debating” with you
Doesn't seem like you did - since you inflected it wrong.
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And you still can't accept the fact that there is a lot of miscommunication in this world
I can accept it however it is still enormously off-topic.  The point I was making when you decided to lecture about this is that you have a responsibility to be able to talk competently about what you're arguing.  If you can't, go back and read a book...or at least don't dictate that people who find your "trollish affectation language" vague to the point of being useless.
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stitches are better than avoidance of the cut?
Different thing.  Stitches do not prevent further cuts.  Vaccines prevent further infections :)
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Please allow your ego of trying to teach me the English language
Again you are expected to be able to speak competently about the subject you are arguing.  So far you fail. :) :) :) :)
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As a matter of fact, affectation only lives in your world of trying to define how viruses work since you used it to define how viruses work. When you told me AFFECTATION, is when I understood that word ONLY!
You don't seem to understand it now.
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I'm sure a lawyer or a judge has never used that word in their everyday life!
You're probably wrong.
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Why have you deviated so far
Dude.  You decided to go on about how poorly you understand the word "affectation".  Not me.  I've just been using it to describe your behavior.  You can change the subject as many times as you want but don't blame me for your lack of focus. :)
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Yes I'm qualified to diagnose ADHD because I “suffer” from it too
So everyone who has a disease is qualified to diagnose it?  LOL.  Uh no. 
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And 100000% sure
Another good reason to believe you're stupid.
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since if there was, it should have been LOOOONG gone like chicken pox!
Chicken pox isn't treated with a pill.  It's vaccinated against - vaccines aren't the same as heredity.  Just because you can successfully treat a disease doesn't change a persons DNA.  Chicken pox is also an illness, the underlying virus varicella is still around and still causes problems.
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It is pretty simple! You don't need to think that hard
...and you are certainly the expert in not thinking hard :) :) :)
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to figure it out in fact COMMERCIALS also cause  OCD = obsessive compulsive disorder!
OCD isn't the same as AD/HD although they have a number of common symptoms.  OCD is an anxiety disorder - AD/HD isn't.
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I kind of find it weird that these experts CANNOT see this obvious things!
Again simple epidemiology shows that OCD does not correlate with TVs per capita. :)
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I don't know why shaking hands has not being made illegal.
You only say things like that because you're trolling. :) :) :)
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You need to BREAK FREE FROM IGNORANCE!
Advice better followed by you.  Let me know when you stop saying "100%" :)
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Words don't just come to existence by themselves!
Change of topic again #29?. :) :) :) Made entirely by you and you will attempt to blame on me.   
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Yeah, well you see PILLS don't work that WAY.
What way?  Have a dose response relationship?  They sure do.  Sorry you're just plain wrong.  In any case if what you had said was true - that I have ADHD and it was caused by TV/Radio commercials.  Then I simply would not have it today because I have an exceptionally low exposure to commercials.   If I do have ADD then it can't be because of commercials because everyone else would have dose which is 100x stronger.  Unless there was an inherent variability which you already said there isn't.  So take your pick, either I don't have AD/HD by your own logic...or by your own logic AD/HD isn't caused by commercials.
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ADD starts as  as KID watching sponge bob square pants!
Nothing to do with me. :)
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Your ADD will never go away that simple nor by taking pills IF IT CANNOT BE CURED FROM THE ROOTS!
You said that ADD is cured by getting rid of commercials.  If commercials have a dose/response relationship then I am very likely to be cured.   If they don't have a dose/response relationship then there has to be an inherent variability. :) :) :) But you already said there wasn't....soooo again make up your mind which way you want to be wrong and get back to me. :)
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Since tell me of a MAGIC PILL that cures it?
I don't take any regular medication but if I had ADHD which stopped me from holding down a good job even with psychosocial therapy.  I'd at least consider trying Adderal
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The same thing is with OCD
Well is this change of topic #30?  Seems like it is.
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Well I wish but I don't have the time nor the years.
What? You can't even cure yourself? LOL
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I'm just trying to ENLIGHTEN those that want to be enlighten!
When you give someone a "cure"  that you can't provide experimental evidence for in any way.  "Enlightenment" isn't as good a word as "Ignorance" is.
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there are VARIABLES (genetic and behavioral)
All of a sudden genetics are a risk factor but a few 100%'s ago it was all about TV, then TV commercials, then TV and radio commercials and then magazine commercials and then poorly defined terms like "distractions".
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From looking at different angles
There is really no evidence you do this.  The only angle you look at things from is from your pre-existing stupid prejudices.
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many UPON many studies that other people do always points to BEHAVIRAL “disease”.
Please point out a study from a medical journal.
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NO! we only learn in this world
This is not really responding to what I said.  You called me stubborn.  I'm just saying that your argument is stupid and your evidence laughable, inconsistent and contrary to much better research. So that's why I don't believe you. 
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You just not that informed about the world
well that's what you need to tell yourself to avoid thinking about what I say. :)
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I'm pretty sure someone is being enlighten by what I type
Ahh but you said "ONLY" and now you're saying that you're mostly doing it for entertainment.  One of those is a lie.  Let me know. :) :) :)
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I said “I 100% sure know that KNOWLEDGE is the CURE!”
Actually you said that you know a number of things "100%" all of which mean you have a problem with ego and arrogance. :)

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you keep on dis...
Only when it's funny.
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..secting everything I say and take it out of context!
I'm taking it in the context it appears to be offered.  Again you're off topic (about being off-topic which is kind of awesome).  So if you want to stop talking about different things.  You need to stop mentioning irrelevant things because your knowledge of medical is so bad that you just end up making dumb mistakes.
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, you just chop
...when it's funny.
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It has been obvious that you are just NIT PICKING my answers for a while now!
Here'os another theory. You are so woefully uninformed and ignorant about virology that things which are important (like the difference between strain and serotype) seem like nit picking because you are literally so dumb you don't know what is important and what isn't. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I understand that you believing that i'm 26 times OFF TOPIC of what you speak off...because you are not looking at things from different ANGELS!
Dude you're the one who is calling me talking about a topic you brought up as "off topic".  So, if you want me to respond about different things.  Then you need to talk about different things.  Let me know when you can admit fault. :)
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That is how wireless electronics work too!
By being off-topic? lol - this is #30 - congratulations!
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“evolution”? = mistakes gives knowledge
Off-topic #31. Not really about mistakes.  It's more about knowledge being generated by imposing a validating structure on data.
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Or did you take a pill?
False dichotomy. :)
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Ok what's your pick?
I'll pick a game where the rules can be explained in a few minutes.  Sound good to you?
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« Reply #876 on: January 31, 2015, 06:37:29 PM »
As you must be well aware by now, in the Land of Looney Tunes (U.S. Medical Establishment) anything is possible.
Seems like you want to squirm some more.  Awesome! This makes my day.  I really appreciate it. :)

So you believe it's possible that someone with a real medical problem (for which there is no existing diagnosis) can come into a doctors office and get a diagnosis of ADHD.

The obvious question then is do you believe that this represents a significant number of people who walk into a doctors office and get an ADHD diagnosis.

Again, simple yes or now will do but if you really want to make me happy you'll waffle some more. :) :) :)

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« Reply #877 on: January 31, 2015, 07:01:09 PM »
why would you spend taxpayer dollars playing radio ads suggesting the above?  There MAY be some benefit?
Well....

a) The added cost to taxpayers to administer the vaccine for the few people who are sitting on the fence and would be swayed with a radio commercial is negligible.
b) It's still considered somewhere between 10% and 23% effective which is still many orders of magnitude greater than the risk
c) Most people take more action for less effect.  Which means it's as least, if not more rational as the actions of the majority of people.

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« Reply #878 on: January 31, 2015, 11:57:48 PM »
Well....

a) The added cost to taxpayers to administer the vaccine for the few people who are sitting on the fence and would be swayed with a radio commercial is negligible.
b) It's still considered somewhere between 10% and 23% effective which is still many orders of magnitude greater than the risk
c) Most people take more action for less effect.  Which means it's as least, if not more rational as the actions of the majority of people.

OK.  Item B explains their use of the phrase "not likely to help prevent".
       Item C does not concern me as I don't really care what most people do.
       Item A tells me that they are spending our money to promote a product made by a private company.  Taxpayers do not spend money to promote my company...right?  I have a problem with this.

Now, if I were seriously ill and clinging to life, and any kind of flu might kill me, I would surely take the shot, just to be safe, and I would not need any taxpayer to spend a dime to convince me to do so.

This is not meant to be any type of indictment on vaccines in general, which in my opinion do much more good than harm, but specifically this year's
"batch" and the use of our money to promote a private company's product.

Bill

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« Reply #879 on: February 01, 2015, 12:12:19 AM »
Ain't the FDA just wonderful in how it so
carefully protects the health of 'Merkun
kids?

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« Reply #880 on: February 01, 2015, 04:56:21 AM »
Item B explains their use of the phrase "not likely to help prevent".
That still results in lives saved and sick-days unspent.
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Item C does not concern me as I don't really care what most people do.
Your question was "why would you spend...". I assume you meant "Why would a rational person spend".  When an action is more rational than what people would otherwise use their time/money for the end result over a large enough population will be positive.  This is, at least in broad strokes a rational goal.
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Item A tells me that they are spending
Very little, for a product which does protect people.
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to promote a product made by a private company
Probably not.  They are spending money to help consume a perishable product they already purchased which will have zero effect if it's never administered.  So the question is simply one of the cost to achieve an advantage.  Administration of the vaccine and the cost of the PSA are probably very low.  While the advantage of the vaccine isn't high it's not implausible to think that this confers some advantage or is at least break even.  Making it the rational thing for the government to do.

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« Reply #881 on: February 01, 2015, 05:02:58 AM »
That still results in lives saved and sick-days unspent.Your question was "why would...". When an action is more rational than what people would otherwise use their time/money for the end result over a large enough population will be positive.  Your concern is probably not necessary for what the government is doing to be rational.Very little, for a product which does protect people.Probably not.  They are spending money to help consume a perishable product they already purchased which will have zero effect if it's never administered.  So the question is simply one of the cost to achieve an advantage.  Administration of the vaccine and the cost of the PSA are probably very low.  While the advantage of the vaccine isn't high it's not implausible to think that this confers some advantage or is at least break even.  Making it the rational thing for the government to do.

Ah, I see, they (gov.) had already purchased X amount of doses from a private company and...they are attempting to get rid of them before they go bad.  This actually makes more sense.  They have already spent our tax dollars and, they did not want them to go to waste so, a little radio marketing helps them get folks to use them, even though it may, or may not help them.

In this light, i do agree that it was a rational thing for the gov. to do.

Bill

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« Reply #882 on: February 01, 2015, 06:44:34 AM »
This actually makes more sense.  They have already spent our tax dollars and, they did not want them to go to waste so, a little radio marketing helps them get folks to use them, even though it may, or may not help them.
I'll just stress that I have no inside knowledge of the US or other government purchasing but as the US administered 140 million vaccine doses in 2014 it's doubtful that it was all on a cash-and-carry basis.  As the Canadian government is a single-payer system virtually all of their insured expenses are done with some negotiation up front. i.e. We will buy X artificial hips @ $Y and be able to purchase more at $Z. It's also well publicized that the US and Canada had significant surplus H1N1 vaccine.  Some of which was donated and some was destroyed.  Other medications have known government stockpiles i.e. Tamiflu

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #883 on: February 01, 2015, 08:00:52 AM »
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I heard a radio public service announcement today that said...(paraphrasing) Even though this year's flu shot will not likely prevent you from getting the flu...we strongly urge everyone to get the shot anyway.  There MAY be some benefit in lessening the symptoms of the other strains of flu virus."

We have read about a female with maybe a weak immune system, die because she was forced to take one! Due to work policy!

That is not the right thing to do!

A lot of more thinking needs to be done by these “experts”.

There needs to be a lot of NEW WORLD ORDER because obviously the top people don't know what to do! (=GREED?)

I'm going to tell you 100% truth! KNOWLEDGE is the PILL! No pill/shot will ever cure the flu. NEVER! So this will continue on, people die by taking the flu shot and people live by taking it! It is simple!

In my house 3 people have the flu and I don't care which strain, all I know is that I'm not sick and I will not get sick unless the sick person coughs in my face, etc. you may ask why am I not sick? Well EDUCATION/KNOWLEDGE! I don't need no flu shot when I know hot to prevent it! That is the answer!

And you have to remember we are talking ONLY about a flue virus that only is deathly to a genetically born person that their immune system cannot cope with some strains but it's obvious that most healthy people only will be sick for 1-2 weeks. But this is the same scenario with other viruses.

The IGNORANCE is taken to viruses that there are no vaccinations too! Like AIDS. Now is where things start to make sense that PREVENTION is ONLY THE CURE! AND THAT IS TRUTH!

So why is “preventing” the flu virus is via a flu show and PREVETING for aids is by KNOWLEDGE? Care to tell me why? Money! = GREED!

Scientists kill a lot of people due to IGNORANCE. I mean there are some doctors that operate on the wrong side of the leg! Or leave operating tools in the human body! = GREED! I'm 100% sure they would never operate on the wrong side of the limb nor leave a tool inside the body if they where operating their own body! Plain and simple.

The whole world needs some “MAINTENANCE” for the better good! In all parts, in this case we are talking about medicine but we can talk about pollution, money, politics, science, electricity, it's just way tooo out of hand!

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #884 on: February 01, 2015, 08:15:14 AM »
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So why is “preventing” the flu virus is via a flu show and PREVETING for aids is by KNOWLEDGE? Care to tell me why?



Because the HIV virus is born with gills and fins and the flue virus is born with wings and legs. 300% TRUTH.