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TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #300 on: November 03, 2014, 12:23:40 AM »

May be the pelton wheel is not turning because there is nothing connected to the "generator" that need power ?
May be when you need power the pump start pushing water on the pelton wheel ?

Maybe. But what is the motor driving with the belt, then?

polln8r

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #301 on: November 03, 2014, 01:36:51 AM »
This is how it works... no point in arguing, I know I'm correct.

1. Water provides the necessary head for the...

2. ...miniature Zed to start oscillating, which...

3. ...squeezes down on an array of MOSFETs, which...

4. ...actually sends a stream of zipons hurdling toward the pelton wheel...

5. ...generates mass quantities of energy.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #302 on: November 03, 2014, 01:47:33 AM »
This is how it works... no point in arguing, I know I'm correct.

1. Water provides the necessary head for the...

2. ...miniature Zed to start oscillating, which...

3. ...squeezes down on an array of MOSFETs, which...

4. ...actually sends a stream of zipons hurdling toward the pelton wheel...

5. ...generates mass quantities of energy.

This fellow sounds a lot like Rose.  Zipons?  Mosfets?  Give me a break!

Bill

polln8r

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #303 on: November 03, 2014, 01:47:53 AM »
The reason the pelton wheel is not rotating is because the zipons are merely channeled through it, and the magnets/coils they've gone with, powering the motor/generator system.

Someone should do more studies on the pelton wheel, to see if different shapes receive zipons with better efficiency.

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #304 on: November 03, 2014, 02:09:55 AM »
The reason the pelton wheel is not rotating is because the zipons are merely channeled through it, and the magnets/coils they've gone with, powering the motor/generator system.

Someone should do more studies on the pelton wheel, to see if different shapes receive zipons with better efficiency.

I had to google what a zipon was and Peswiki was the first hit.  http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rosemary_Ainslie   Sigh!   BTW I have some "water front" property in Florida for sale...


Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #305 on: November 03, 2014, 02:39:27 AM »
Everything we have seen so far points to this being fake, a criminal con job.  I asked you before why you want to just blindly believe in an alleged free energy device with no solid evidence that it works and you ignored the question.

So I will ask you again:  Why do you want to blindly believe in this device with no solid evidence that it works?

Hi @Milehigh
I think your comment was directed at me.  I don't believe this device produces 3KW to 15KW for a sustained period purely fueled by water. I also do not believe the generator could be fueled by the two batteries in the system based on what we have seen for a sustained period of time, (12 hours as per the phone conversation)  but I am certainly open to being proven wrong. I also don't believe anyone has or will ever solve the problem of cold fusion based on my limited understanding of physics.   I am also not someone who wants to be subjected to a law suit for slandering a person and or a company without fully understanding all interpretations of the various ambiguous statements that have been made by the CEO.   

Perhaps you miss the sarcasm in a lot of my statements, so I appolagise if I appear to be endorsing the product in anyway.  I am not. As I said if Mr Potter does come forward and he has managed to change the laws of physics and is able to prove this and I can verify it I am more than happy to discuss. 

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #306 on: November 03, 2014, 03:05:59 AM »
Nink:

No, the comment was for Profits.  Note the system will cite the author of the quoted text when you hit the "quote" button.  Don't worry, I understand where you are coming from.

MileHigh

P.S.:  Thanks for resizing the image.

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #307 on: November 03, 2014, 03:10:30 AM »
@milehigh sure you'l get your consters but why be a conster when you don't have to be a conster.I've already given you my experimental reasons why I believe the 2lot has gone awol on the other threads here.if you can flatten a profitis cell then I'l kiss you.

But you didn't answer my question about why when you use a can of compressed air to spray the dust out of your computer your hand gets cold.   Why should we give credence to your concerns about the laws of thermodynamics if you can't answer that question?

profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #308 on: November 03, 2014, 03:25:11 AM »
Because I refuse to answer to such ridiculous sarcasm that's why.what's a can of pepper-spray got to do with a 2lot violation anyway

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #309 on: November 03, 2014, 04:20:17 AM »
Because I refuse to answer to such ridiculous sarcasm that's why.what's a can of pepper-spray got to do with a 2lot violation anyway

It's not ridiculous sarcasm.  If you are going to say that physics has all sorts of problems or there are ways to violate the laws of thermodynamics then the only way you are going to gain any credibility with your statements is to demonstrate competency in physics and thermodynamics.  If you were truly competent in these two subjects then you would be able to answer the question without thinking.  So that is a fundamental problem with your statements.  I can't take them seriously because I don't believe that you know what you are talking about.  In the real world you actually have to know what you are talking about if you are going to make statements like you are making.  The same issue comes up with electronics all the time.

Why does your hand get colder when you use the can filled with pressurized air?  How come Earth retained its atmosphere but Mars lost most of its atmosphere?  Those two questions are quite closely related but it appears that you can't answer the first, and it's doubtful that you could answer the second.  I will repeat, in the real world you actually have to know what you are talking about before you critique something.

But we are not in the real world, we are on a chat board.  So just do your thing.  If you want to deceive yourself, nobody is stopping you.

Note that the guy pitching this ridiculous GDS contraption does not know what he is talking about either.  The difference is that he IS in the real word, and he is trying to feed off of other people's ignorance and harm them by taking their money and giving nothing in return.  Come January, April, or July 2015 when there are no reports of a single magic box working anywhere in the world then I ask to seriously contemplate what I said here today.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #310 on: November 03, 2014, 04:42:32 AM »
Quote fom milehigh:'It's not ridiculous sarcasm.  If you are going to say that physics has all sorts of problems or there are ways to violate the laws of thermodynamics then the only way you are going to gain any credibility with your statements is to demonstrate competency in physics and thermodynamics'.

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No.if YOU are competent then you will have to explain to us,using textbooks, why all karpen cells,regardless of power density  last way beyond their faraday equivalency.we welcome any testable explanation.your explanation will be very important to us because it will destroy any chance of spontaneously reversable thermodynamics if true.your explanation will by default also nullify any chance that a few peswiki items might be legit

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #311 on: November 03, 2014, 05:16:14 AM »
No.if YOU are competent then you will have to explain to us,using textbooks, why all karpen cells,regardless of power density  last way beyond their faraday equivalency.we welcome any testable explanation.your explanation will be very important to us because it will destroy any chance of spontaneously reversable thermodynamics if true.your explanation will by default also nullify any chance that a few peswiki items might be legit

Bait and switch is not going to work on me.  Everything I stated in my previous post still applies and you haven't addressed it at all.  Hence I conclude you can't explain why the compressed air can gets cold.

Responding to your "switch" I think Tinman addressed that issue with you recently.  Do you know what the average power consumption of the motor device in the Karpen pile is?  I doubt you do because the few times I read up on it there was no mention at all about that issue.  It's possible that the average power consumption is on the order of nano-watts, just a guess.  How much chemical energy is in the pile?  One more time, in my readings I have never seen any mention about the estimate for the amount of chemical energy in the pile, so I assume that you don't have the answer to that either.

Let's assume for the sake of argument I am right about my two conjectures in the paragraph above.  Nobody knows how much chemical energy is in the pile and nobody knows the average power consumption.  So what are you left with?  We are ignorant about the average power consumption of the device.  We are ignorant about the estimated amount of chemical energy in the pile.  So you have ignorance on top of ignorance, and yet you allege that the Karpen pile defies the laws of thermodynamics?  You make reference to "Karpen cells" but as far as I am aware there is only a single Karpen pile.

Now, if you had the data and crunched the numbers, it might say that the Karpen pile will work for 150 years.  Then when there is no more chemical energy left to run it, it will STOP.

Also, I just did the calculation.  If hypothetically the average power consumption of the "motor" in the Karpen pile is one nano-watt, then a single Joule of energy will power the "motor" for 31.7 years.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #312 on: November 03, 2014, 05:39:16 AM »
Quote from milehigh:'Now, if you had the data and crunched the numbers, it might say that the Karpen pile will work for 150 years.  Then when there is no more chemical energy left to run it, it will stop'

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You will be forced by the scientific establishment to explain a constant stable 100microamp/cm2 from precisely 1 milligram of warm gold leaf coupled to warm platinum sponge in warm H2SO4.we are waiting.. It is now in your hands to rescue peswiki and other ou-sites from possible legitimacy

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #313 on: November 03, 2014, 06:06:33 AM »
Yet another attempt to do a bait and switch?  So to me that means that you have no answer for the Karpen pile like I suspected.  So your argument for the Karpen pile fails.

I am not taking the "switch" that you are trying yet again.  I know nothing about the experiment and I am not going to look it up.  What I can say is that when metal undergoes some kind of a galvanic reaction, a lot of electrical energy and associated current is produced from the reaction.  They talk about cars being powered from batteries based on aluminum powder.  All "earth batteries" get zero power from the earth, it's the corroding magnesium that is the source of the power.  It takes TONS of electricity to produce aluminum and magnesium.  Hence they locate the production plants close to cheap plentiful sources of electrical power.  When the metal corrodes, you are getting that electrical energy back.

I challenge you to look up the gold leaf experiment and do a serious analysis of it yourself.  If you are just blindly believing what some free energy experimenter is telling you and you only are referencing this as your single and only source, then you are making a grave mistake.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #314 on: November 03, 2014, 06:23:30 AM »
Quote from milehigh:'I challenge you to look up the gold leaf experiment and do a serious analysis of it yourself.  If you are just blindly believing what some free energy experimenter is telling you and you only are referencing this as your single and only so'

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This experiment is repeatable by anyone anywhere anytime