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TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #285 on: November 02, 2014, 08:58:50 PM »
Sure, that makes some kind of sense (except that a tank on your roof isn't going to be enough head to produce the stated power output).

But how do you explain the fact that the Pelton Wheel and attached Permanent Magnet Alternator assembly is not turning at all during the video demonstration?

And there doesn't seem to be any outlet on the bottom of the unit.

(I've made a high-resolution copy of the video, which I will excerpt, analyze and post to my YT channel when Gregory Potter finally snaps and removes his video.)

TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #286 on: November 02, 2014, 09:05:56 PM »
In addition to all that tinselkoala has pointed out, one might note a couple of other things in the video:

Potter's first word is:  "Hola".

The video has available Spanish subtitles that include his 3000 Watts per hour idiocy.

Ho-ho-hola!

His accent is lousy, though. 

MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #287 on: November 02, 2014, 09:13:15 PM »
I have no doubt water goes in the water tank and not fuel in the water tank.    He keeps using that statement on facebook, website etc "We have developed a portable water powered generator that creates a large amount of energy to run our portable generators that generate power simply by adding water"   but what does that mean? 
They claim that the device uses no fuel.  See for example the immediately following declaration:

"We have found a way to produce energy by adding clean tap water."

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I get the feeling the way it was actually originally designed to work was you connect a hose, the water hits the pelton wheel,  charges the battery and then when the battery is charged you can use the power in the battery to run some small devices for a short period of time. 

I am not so generous.  But supposing that it was:  If one had a 8'/s water running through a 3/4" diameter pipe and a pressure drop of 40 psi, then there is about 190W.  For one hour of use at 5kW it would take more than a day of running that water using about 2200 cu ft.  Around here, it costs about $3. / 100 cu ft of water.   So that one hour at 5kW instead of costing $1.00 if taken from the wall outlet would cost $66. in water.
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 Interesting concept and probably useful for supplementing power using mains pressure water.  You place the generator on the roof of your house and connect it to your house water supply ( think there must be an exit tap underneath the generator), you also connect your garden hose to the tap on the generator.  If you had an external tank on the roof as well that held several hundred litres of water it would work even better,   You turn the hose on fill the tank while spinning the pelton wheel and charging the batteries. There looks to be all the parts necessary to do this.   The tap has an auto shut off valve he mentions the one way check valve in the video on the tap.  Now the water tank is drained and filled again if you turn a tap on in the house, The pelton wheels will once again spin as the water enters the generator and leaves the generator and enters your house, again providing power to the batteries.

I think that was the original purpose an energy scavenger using mains pressure water.     It looks like it was then modified and a 12V DC motor was added to spin the permanent magnet generator and this is where I get a little confused....Why go 12V DC  to PMG to Inverter instead of battery direct to Inverter apart from some noise and watching stuff spin.
I think that it is all for show.

MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #288 on: November 02, 2014, 09:16:51 PM »
Ho-ho-hola!

His accent is lousy, though.
"Hola!  Como esta usted?  Me llamo es Greg Potter.  Yo soy un artisa estafador excellente!  Yo quiero su dinero mucho!"

profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #289 on: November 02, 2014, 09:35:34 PM »
@nink if it was potters strategy to throw some cheese onto alibaba and lure attention of boys with big toys then I think he may already have 9 figures sorted by now.get ready for another rossi,best regards

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #290 on: November 02, 2014, 10:00:44 PM »
Profitis


Do you understand this Alibaba ? Isn't this a venue for Chinese manufacturers to solicit Buyers
for their inventory?
or is it for venture capitol?


Or other??


My first impression when I heard it was on Alibaba was that his factory[*the one he contracted with in China] was soliciting orders on his machine outside of their agreement . {noted "no sales to USA"].


I have never used this Alibaba and am not familiar ??


thx
Chet


*pure conjecture on my part , at the time of our conversation the Mexican factory possibility was not in the mix.
PS[added after Profitis reply below]
On that Note [factory contract] all of the Employee claims and production numbers from Mr.Potter could be based on his agreement with his Supplier/ factory contract.
which is actually how I always perceived the "My Factory" comment from Mr.Potter.


This was a term [My Factory] I always used in Business dealings with Large volumes and specialty orders from Factories which I did business with.


Exampl
""My Factory has 100 employees working on this run""
or
""My Factory does 10 million dollars annually with this product"" [or as per agreement pryor to Contract signing]

profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #291 on: November 02, 2014, 10:08:23 PM »
Alibaba is where you go if you want bulk sales to the entire globe chet so no doubt you will get the attentions you seek over there.if it is an hose-pipe powered device then yes,why leave out american sales?good question

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #292 on: November 02, 2014, 10:39:22 PM »
@MarkE @TinselKoala yep agree 5KW not going to happen unless you live next to Niagara Falls.   I really think the original design was only ever meant to produce a 100 to 200W for for a short period of time from trickle charging the battery every time you turn a tap on or in an emergency when you have a power outage. The reason I said on the roof of your house was so you still have some water pressure inside the house.

@profitis e-Cat LOL


MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #293 on: November 02, 2014, 10:45:47 PM »
@nink if it was potters strategy to throw some cheese onto alibaba and lure attention of boys with big toys then I think he may already have 9 figures sorted by now.get ready for another rossi,best regards

Everything we have seen so far points to this being fake, a criminal con job.  I asked you before why you want to just blindly believe in an alleged free energy device with no solid evidence that it works and you ignored the question.

So I will ask you again:  Why do you want to blindly believe in this device with no solid evidence that it works?

profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #294 on: November 02, 2014, 11:20:49 PM »
@milehigh well in my opinion the laws of physics are so screwed right now that anything is possible.I don't rule out this device for overunity until we know precisely what's going on.

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #295 on: November 02, 2014, 11:34:30 PM »
Is GDSystems.net related ?  Registered tucows  Says "Not overunity" http://www.gdsystems.net/Services.html

I like these links

http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/images/  click on paypal, Suspended ?

Try this one
http://www.gdsenergy.mx/upload/GDS/public/images/

Crap, we missed the sale (resized as per request original image here http://www.gdsenergy.mx/upload/GDS/public/images/BigDiscount.jpg )

« Last Edit: November 03, 2014, 01:58:01 AM by Nink »

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #296 on: November 02, 2014, 11:50:59 PM »
Well you can believe what you want to believe but you provide no substance.  You want to believe that "the laws of physics are screwed" because you are fixated on your perception that the thermodynamics laws are somehow wrong or they can be overcome.  I don't buy it.  I think I asked you why evaporating water draws heat from its surroundings and I don't think you answered.  Have you ever had one of those compressed air cans in your hand and then sprayed the dust out of your computer?  Your had gets very cold.  Same process in action.  Can you explain it?

When it comes to the laws of physics like f=ma and stuff like that, that all works perfectly.  So without you providing any substance to your argument, there is nothing there.

Then, you would have to directly apply any arguments that you have about the laws of physics being screwed to this particular GDS device.  You have to make a connection otherwise your argument falls flat.

In a generic sense and from my experience and feeling, the people on the forums that say "laws are just laws made by man," they themselves don't actually have a mastery over the laws that they are criticizing.  It's very ironic.

Anyway, I don't really care.  You will see that nothing will happen with this alleged device.  It's all about getting PayPal money,  nothing more than that.  The fact that there are many people out there that think like you means that there is a "market."  GDS is just trying to get their slice of that market, just like any other company tries to do the same thing for all sorts of other markets.  This is all just an attempt to deceive people to steal their money.  It's a shame that you can't see that.  When they don't deliver anything, it will not be because they are suppressed or bought out.  That's all part of the "marketing strategy" by companies like GDS so that they can escape and live another day to start another con.  There are ugly nasty people in the world posing as the good guys.  You just have to open your mind and open your eyes to see what is really going on.

P.S.:  Nink, please resize your image.

TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #297 on: November 03, 2014, 12:04:47 AM »
Oh, the plot thickens!

The "GDSystems.net" link says it's a TEXAS company, and has pictures of some people on the "management team":
http://www.gdsystems.net/Management-Team.html
But the whole thing looks like a Wayne Travis clone, again with no real product, just promises, deceptive images and slick web page design.
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It is able to generate power locally that is scalable from 3MW to 5GW power systems.
(from the link below) Wow! 5GW! That's one heck of a liquid-gravity-magnet powered system!
But... they are playing in a big field:
http://www2.thestockmarketwatch.com/newsletters/2012/12/06/phi-group-to-jv-with-gds-global-development-systems/
The address in Houston again looks to me like a zone with some big rich apartment blocks, perhaps with a little light industrial thrown in.
1013 Van Buren Street, Houston, TX 77019


The other link is another real hoot, since Potter told several people that the "3000" unit was not going to be offered for sale, since it's wimpy and the bigger ones are cast-iron. I think it is likely that Potter's use of the "GDS" brand is just another part of his overall scam. But I wonder what the folks in Houston would say if they were called about Potter's device and claims.

profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #298 on: November 03, 2014, 12:04:48 AM »
@milehigh sure you'l get your consters but why be a conster when you don't have to be a conster.I've already given you my experimental reasons why I believe the 2lot has gone awol on the other threads here.if you can flatten a profitis cell then I'l kiss you.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #299 on: November 03, 2014, 12:05:51 AM »
Sure, that makes some kind of sense (except that a tank on your roof isn't going to be enough head to produce the stated power output).

But how do you explain the fact that the Pelton Wheel and attached Permanent Magnet Alternator assembly is not turning at all during the video demonstration?

And there doesn't seem to be any outlet on the bottom of the unit.

(I've made a high-resolution copy of the video, which I will excerpt, analyze and post to my YT channel when Gregory Potter finally snaps and removes his video.)

May be the pelton wheel is not turning because there is nothing connected to the "generator" that need power ?
May be when you need power the pump start pushing water on the pelton wheel ?