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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1266952 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #735 on: April 21, 2014, 08:40:14 AM »
Look again.

In the first place, the "AS" data sheet that I attached shows something DIFFERENT: A different dimension and a mirror-image pinout. The NUMBERS of the pins are different. The LOCATION of the pins is the same: the MAINS INPUT is next to the case wall and the DC OUTPUT is more central and is next to the gap containing the potentiometer and the LED ! This is actually an industry standard arrangement.





4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #736 on: April 21, 2014, 08:46:58 AM »
I just posted the pinout.. didn't you see?

AS = pin 1&2 DC
RS = pin 1&2 AC

Akula using a AS supply

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #737 on: April 21, 2014, 08:58:05 AM »
OOOPS...... think about THIS photo, at 15:59.


Why/how is the GREEN LED on?


The black wires aren't connected.....

If the BLACK wires are the output of the PSU that is supposed to be running the board that is supposed to be powering the White Wires that are supposed to be powering the PSU..... then the BOARD is running without the necessary feed from the PSU.... which he showed didn't work in an earlier shot.

If the BLACK wires are the mains input to the PSU..... but they are disconnected..... then how is the Green Power LED still on?




TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #738 on: April 21, 2014, 09:01:31 AM »
I just posted the pinout.. didn't you see?

AS = pin 1&2 DC
RS = pin 1&2 AC

Akula using a AS supply

What is the matter with you? Can you not read?

4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #739 on: April 21, 2014, 09:05:46 AM »
I think there was a point where he was running circuit off 9v battery?  I'll have to look at the video.  If not.. yep busted.  So you saying the datasheet isn't correct and that AC is always on the outside of the supply.. could be.

4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #740 on: April 21, 2014, 09:07:14 AM »
What is the matter with you? Can you not read?

I was thinking the same thing about you?  :)

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #741 on: April 21, 2014, 09:09:37 AM »
I think there was a point where he was running circuit off 9v battery?  I'll have to look at the video.  If not.. yep busted.  So you saying the datasheet isn't correct and that AC is always on the outside of the supply.. could be.

What do you mean, data sheet isn't correct? They are correct. The AC is on the outer terminals on all versions of the MeanWell and the AS-branded supply.
The only "discrepancy" is the numbering of the terminals.

There are no other inputs/outputs to that power supply. The fact that the LED is ON.... needs explaining. It will be fun to read the explanations.

The fact that the label sticker that shows the terminal functions has been removed.... is also a smoking gun.

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #742 on: April 21, 2014, 09:19:25 AM »
I think there was a point where he was running circuit off 9v battery?  I'll have to look at the video.  If not.. yep busted.  So you saying the datasheet isn't correct and that AC is always on the outside of the supply.. could be.

Yes, the Green LED is shown lit and he is touching the 9v battery to the terminals on the Board where he "starts" the thing, and when he removes the 9v battery the Green LED on the PSU goes out. Very clever.

I think we should need to see that PSU plugged into the wall and powering a normal 5v load, then changed over and used in the demonstration again.

4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #743 on: April 21, 2014, 09:19:55 AM »
OOOPS...... think about THIS photo, at 15:59.


Why/how is the GREEN LED on?


The black wires aren't connected.....

If the BLACK wires are the output of the PSU that is supposed to be running the board that is supposed to be powering the White Wires that are supposed to be powering the PSU..... then the BOARD is running without the necessary feed from the PSU.... which he showed didn't work in an earlier shot.

If the BLACK wires are the mains input to the PSU..... but they are disconnected..... then how is the Green Power LED still on?

If you look just a few seconds earlier in the video you'll see he is powering the device with 9v battery to take measurements.. that is why the green LED is lit up.

I don't see the backwards pinouts you talk about.

Edit:  Oh you saw it.. you posted as I was typing.  I have to go.. will check this thread later in the week.  8)

T-1000

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #744 on: April 21, 2014, 10:55:37 AM »
Hi,

The entire page for PSU.. someone must be mad on finding fakes, ghmmm... ;)
Oh well, you never convince skeptics unless they disassemble unit themselves to see no hidden batteries inside.

Here is audio recording from Teamspeak where Roman explained working principle on how self running LED flashlight was achieved:
http://filebin.net/84mauc7noc/14-04-17_akula0083_full.mp3

Cheers!

Hoppy

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #745 on: April 21, 2014, 11:32:09 AM »
Hi,

The entire page for PSU.. someone must be mad on finding fakes, ghmmm... ;)
Oh well, you never convince skeptics unless they disassemble unit themselves to see no hidden batteries inside.

Here is audio recording from Teamspeak where Roman explained working principle on how self running LED flashlight was achieved:
http://filebin.net/84mauc7noc/14-04-17_akula0083_full.mp3

Cheers!

It might have saved a good few posts had he removed the PSU lid to give a good close-up eyeball inside during the video. Videos staged like this one are just a waste of time and effort.  :(

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #746 on: April 21, 2014, 12:34:43 PM »
DC black cable.... start up parallel the battery affects it ...

AlienGrey

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #747 on: April 21, 2014, 12:44:15 PM »
Can I actually post any useful info on here ? I think i'm blocked, great.

MileHigh

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #748 on: April 21, 2014, 01:17:38 PM »
Thanks TK and others, I suppose I retract my retraction but I am not 100% certain!  lol  I got hypnotized!

In a way it's almost moot, because these setups with the power supply and the external board in a "mutual assistance pact" by virtue of their wiring connections are a fake.  Just use your common sense.

Why does this Russian guy do this absolute crap?  Money?  Internet fame or infamy?  Psychological problems?  Prankster?  Compulsion bordering on obsession?  Screw the system?   Screw all of you?  Socially engineer people for kicks?  Pathological lying extended into cyberspace?  Just a plain a$$hole?  Hates his mother?

Who the hell knows!

MileHigh

Hoppy

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #749 on: April 21, 2014, 01:56:55 PM »
Interesting clip showing foreign looking white wire and cut wire?