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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1266961 times)

havuhung

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #750 on: April 21, 2014, 01:59:04 PM »
Thanks TK and others, I suppose I retract my retraction but I am not 100% certain!  lol  I got hypnotized!

In a way it's almost moot, because these setups with the power supply and the external board in a "mutual assistance pact" by virtue of their wiring connections are a fake.  Just use your common sense.

Why does this Russian guy do this absolute crap?  Money?  Internet fame or infamy?  Psychological problems?  Prankster?  Compulsion bordering on obsession?  Screw the system?   Screw all of you?  Socially engineer people for kicks?  Pathological lying extended into cyberspace?  Just a plain a$$hole?  Hates his mother?

Who the hell knows!

MileHigh
Hi MileHigh,
There are people not as a benefit at all, they still prefer to deceive people and are proud of what they did!!!  Sadly!

havuhung


TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #751 on: April 21, 2014, 02:18:45 PM »
Well, at best we can tell that the PSU box has been opened. Why, or what's been done inside is unknown.  That's why I think it would be nice to see it used with Mains input and a normal 5v load, to show that it still works normally.
And until someone can provide other evidence, I stand by the pinout analysis: on these kinds of power supplies the DC output terminals are located nearest the fine adjust pot and power LED, not at the other end of the terminal strip. The strip is numbered from L to R, so in the "mirror image" AS version the numbers of the DC out and AC in terminals are different, but the location wrt the edge (for AC mains) and near-center (for DC out) is the same. The removal of the label that normally sits right above the terminal strip is suspicious.

So until someone can provide some other evidence, I'm staying firm on the White Wires being connected to the DC output terminals. So the lighting up of the Green Power LED in the supply, when the Black wires disconnected, seems strange. It is slightly possible that the Green LED is directly connnected to the DC output rail of the supply, and an oscillating input from the Mystery Board to the transformer could produce a corresponding AC voltage at the White Wire winding which could then in turn light up the Green power LED on the DC output bus of the PSU. I have several power supplies whose meters will read voltage even if they are off, as long as they are connected to a source like a charged cap or a battery.


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #752 on: April 21, 2014, 02:30:10 PM »
Well, at best we can tell that the PSU box has been opened. Why, or what's been done inside is unknown.  That's why I think it would be nice to see it used with Mains input and a normal 5v load, to show that it still works normally.
And until someone can provide other evidence, I stand by the pinout analysis: on these kinds of power supplies the DC output terminals are located nearest the fine adjust pot and power LED, not at the other end of the terminal strip. The strip is numbered from L to R, so in the "mirror image" AS version the numbers of the DC out and AC in terminals are different, but the location wrt the edge (for AC mains) and near-center (for DC out) is the same. The removal of the label that normally sits right above the terminal strip is suspicious.

So until someone can provide some other evidence, I'm staying firm on the White Wires being connected to the DC output terminals. So the lighting up of the Green Power LED in the supply, when the Black wires disconnected, seems strange. It is slightly possible that the Green LED is directly connnected to the DC output rail of the supply, and an oscillating input from the Mystery Board to the transformer could produce a corresponding AC voltage at the White Wire winding which could then in turn light up the Green power LED on the DC output bus of the PSU. I have several power supplies whose meters will read voltage even if they are off, as long as they are connected to a source like a charged cap or a battery.

If the PSU has been doctored, then the terminal allocations may have been changed to suit his requirements.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #753 on: April 21, 2014, 04:05:22 PM »
Interesting clip showing foreign looking white wire and cut wire?
He show that without supply power consumption is 0.03 A and 9 volts, that is 0.27 W and output is 1 W LED. And he say in audio file, that one frenquency is 4-7 herc and other 460 kiloherc. One frenquency is feroresonance, but I not understand that is feroresonance 4-7 herc or 460 kiloherc?

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #754 on: April 21, 2014, 04:17:25 PM »
If the PSU has been doctored, then the terminal allocations may have been changed to suit his requirements.

Well, that's rather obvious, I think. But aren't we supposed to believe that the PSU hasn't been altered? If it has, then it's an important part of the circuit that hasn't been disclosed.

Anyway, I've thought about the Green LED, and what it means. It lights up when the 9v battery is applied to the Mystery Board and shuts off when that battery is removed. OK, this can happen with the normal unaltered power supply, IF the Mystery Board is putting a pulsed signal into the coil(s) of the transformator. The White Wires will act as the secondary and an AC voltage will be put into the (normally) DC output terminals of the PSU. The LED and its dropping resistor are probably simply in parallel with the DC output, so the LED will light up, as long as the Mystery Board is oscillating into the transformator "primary".

I made a short video explaining my take on this PSU LED part of the thing. I used DC into a small homemade supply but I think the idea is clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0FqZGGY8hc
(If it's "unavailable" it means it's still being processed at YT, I think..... or it is being suppressed..... lol)

Of course if the PSU is altered inside then all this discussion is somewhat moot. Still, I believe that careful observation can always reveal some clues.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #755 on: April 21, 2014, 05:36:54 PM »

Of course if the PSU is altered inside then all this discussion is somewhat moot. Still, I believe that careful observation can always reveal some clues.

One of the best clues is where he throws the switch on the PSU, then connects the 9V battery. When the battery is connected, the LED's light but when the battery is removed, the lamps extinguish. He realises that the switch needs to be thrown to latch in the relay or electronic switch inside the PSU, so as to connect the hidden battery to the output of the PSU. No need for complicated modifications or terminal re-designations, just a simple bit of skulduggery inside the PSU. Your short video reinforces this. Notice the similarity of the suspicious looking white wire inside the PSU as shown in my last post, to the white wire used on the ferrite choke.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #756 on: April 21, 2014, 07:11:23 PM »
One of the best clues is where he throws the switch on the PSU, then connects the 9V battery. When the battery is connected, the LED's light but when the battery is removed, the lamps extinguish. He realises that the switch needs to be thrown to latch in the relay or electronic switch inside the PSU, so as to connect the hidden battery to the output of the PSU. No need for complicated modifications or terminal re-designations, just a simple bit of skulduggery inside the PSU. Your short video reinforces this. Notice the similarity of the suspicious looking white wire inside the PSU as shown in my last post, to the white wire used on the ferrite choke.
Part 3, minute 13 - where do you see power output from disconnected PSU?
Minute 14 - akula connects 9V "КОСМОС" 200mAh battery and 8 LEDs are lit up (1 Watt load) while ampmeter is showing power consumption of 0.02-0.03A which includes 1W load of LEDs + powering up electronics...

Please watch it frame by frame because akula did fit all these tests into very short video and only then try to point out what you did find suspicious there.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #757 on: April 21, 2014, 07:32:47 PM »
Come on guys!  Assuming that the supply is not altered in any way.. what good would DC be on a transformer???  The white wires are connected to AC in and the black wires are DC out.  It is the only logical way of wiring.  And that is what the AS datasheet shows.  I don't think there are any inverse pinouts in the datasheet.. that was made up.


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #758 on: April 21, 2014, 07:40:49 PM »
Just because "8 leds are lit up" that does NOT mean that they are drawing their full rated power. There is no evidence that the LEDs are actually dissipating one Watt, while the input power is 9v x 0.03 A= 270 mW. In fact, 270 mW is plenty to light up ten or more LEDs to full brilliance, especially if they are pulsed.

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Come on guys!  Assuming that the supply is not altered in any way.. what good would DC be on a transformer???  The white wires are connected to AC in and the black wires are DC out.  It is the only logical way of wiring.  And that is what the AS datasheet shows.  I don't think there are any inverse pinouts in the datasheet.. that was made up.

That is NOT what the AS data sheet shows! LOOK AT THE DIAGRAMS! The terminal strip is always numbered from left to right, so the _numbers_ of the terminals are different in the "mirror image" version. The DC OUTPUT is always next to the large gap, where the fine adjust pot and the LED are located. This is true for the "mirror image" AS data sheet as well as the AR data sheet. The data sheets agree with me.

So if you want to claim that the wiring is as YOU say, you will need to provide some evidence that overrides the data sheets and the actual device.

I am perfectly willing to agree with you, IF you provide evidence. The data sheets agree with me, though.


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #759 on: April 21, 2014, 07:52:35 PM »
Part 3, minute 13 - where do you see power output from disconnected PSU?
Minute 14 - akula connects 9V "КОСМОС" 200mAh battery and 8 LEDs are lit up (1 Watt load) while ampmeter is showing power consumption of 0.02-0.03A which includes 1W load of LEDs + powering up electronics...

Please watch it frame by frame because akula did fit all these tests into very short video and only then try to point out what you did find suspicious there.

I studied part 3, from minute 13 carefully. I'm fairly sure that his 9V battery is operating a low current switch, which in turn is completing the circuit for a high-cap / super-cap discharge into the supply rail of an oscillator (primary of ferrite transformer) operating in flyback mode to light the LED's.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #760 on: April 21, 2014, 07:57:54 PM »
Come on guys!  Assuming that the supply is not altered in any way.. what good would DC be on a transformer???  The white wires are connected to AC in and the black wires are DC out.  It is the only logical way of wiring.  And that is what the AS datasheet shows.  I don't think there are any inverse pinouts in the datasheet.. that was made up.

Here is new video without power supply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKmW7HxXvas

4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #761 on: April 21, 2014, 08:00:41 PM »
Just because "8 leds are lit up" that does NOT mean that they are drawing their full rated power. There is no evidence that the LEDs are actually dissipating one Watt, while the input power is 9v x 0.03 A= 270 mW. In fact, 270 mW is plenty to light up ten or more LEDs to full brilliance, especially if they are pulsed.

That is NOT what the AS data sheet shows! LOOK AT THE DIAGRAMS! The terminal strip is always numbered from left to right, so the _numbers_ of the terminals are different in the "mirror image" version. The DC OUTPUT is always next to the large gap, where the fine adjust pot and the LED are located. This is true for the "mirror image" AS data sheet as well as the AR data sheet. The data sheets agree with me.

So if you want to claim that the wiring is as YOU say, you will need to provide some evidence that overrides the data sheets and the actual device.

I am perfectly willing to agree with you, IF you provide evidence. The data sheets agree with me, though.

No you look at the diagram.. That is exactly what the diagram shows from left to right pin 1,2,3,4,5.  1&2 DC out and 4&5 AC in.  No mirrors in the datasheet.  :)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #762 on: April 21, 2014, 08:05:27 PM »
Dear All.

Now tell me where the hidden batteries are on this circuit ?? !!   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKmW7HxXvas&feature=youtu.be

Cheers Grum.

4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #763 on: April 21, 2014, 08:12:01 PM »
@T1000 and Grum

Thank you for the link to the new video!!  8)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #764 on: April 21, 2014, 08:17:42 PM »
Dear All.

Now tell me where the hidden batteries are on this circuit ?? !!   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKmW7HxXvas&feature=youtu.be

Cheers Grum.


No hidden battery, just a small super-cap! LED's are not illuminated brightly, so capacity of cap need not be that high.