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gurangax

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2014, 11:51:01 AM »

I'm afraid you have the same problem as Bessler. You won't get paid until you reveal it and once you reveal it why would they pay you?


I should go for the fame aspect if I were you - before someone else does.  ;D


Getting paid is what I need. But if things doesnt go according to plan then let it be.  I really think that Bessler is the one who deserves it. Without him no one will ever seek the truth of a real working perpetual motion device. Well since it is driven by gravity it should be called a perpetual motion until gravity itself diminished.


Im planning on requesting donations once everyone is satisfied, Im sure there are some reasonable people still alive today. If not then all the works which I will be doing here will just be another stupid thing which I have ever done.

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2014, 11:30:36 PM »

Getting paid is what I need. But if things doesnt go according to plan then let it be.  I really think that Bessler is the one who deserves it. Without him no one will ever seek the truth of a real working perpetual motion device. Well since it is driven by gravity it should be called a perpetual motion until gravity itself diminished.


Im planning on requesting donations once everyone is satisfied, Im sure there are some reasonable people still alive today. If not then all the works which I will be doing here will just be another stupid thing which I have ever done.

gurangax

 Now you are asking for money. It is important you show something. At least a covered wheel showing it stop and go and stop it again. Bessler's wheel is able to be shown as such. Don't forget and make sure it can be heard.

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2014, 12:40:49 AM »
Gurangax,

You are such a predictable little scumbag.

I'll give you 5$ if you come over here and suck it hard.


MarkE

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2014, 03:05:10 AM »

for instance a 30kg weight at the end of a 2 foot pole would be supplying great torque at the other pole end. and it is variably adjusted according to the heaviness of the weight. it doesnt depend only on the diameter of wheel but also how heavy the weights is. it could easily achieve 10Kw power. its no fraud at all just simple but lost bessler secret.
The GPE of a weight does not depend on its distance from a fulcrum or an axle.  IOW the work that you can extract by lowering a weight some distance, or that you have to expend raising that weight the same distance is independent of any lever that you use.  What that means is that no matter what intricate mechanisms you come up with, after your machine completes a full cycle: that is that each and every element in the machine is back at the same position as at the start of the cycle, the net GPE change is zero.  There is no surplus to give, and from a GPE standpoint no excess that had to be provided.  A simple bicycle wheel is as good as any machine with: shifting levers, weights, pulleys, dancing unicorns or what have you.

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2014, 04:05:17 AM »
gurangax

 Now you are asking for money. It is important you show something. At least a covered wheel showing it stop and go and stop it again. Bessler's wheel is able to be shown as such. Don't forget and make sure it can be heard.

Alan


I wont be asking for donations until everything is cleared but at the same time i wont reveal everything so soon. I have my curiosity to who is watching this forum. Oh yes the wheel can do everything Besslers wheel can do including the famous sound. I really do think it is what he used, since the sound itself comes from the real motive force inside.


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gurangax

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2014, 04:09:06 AM »
The GPE of a weight does not depend on its distance from a fulcrum or an axle.  IOW the work that you can extract by lowering a weight some distance, or that you have to expend raising that weight the same distance is independent of any lever that you use.  What that means is that no matter what intricate mechanisms you come up with, after your machine completes a full cycle: that is that each and every element in the machine is back at the same position as at the start of the cycle, the net GPE change is zero.  There is no surplus to give, and from a GPE standpoint no excess that had to be provided.  A simple bicycle wheel is as good as any machine with: shifting levers, weights, pulleys, dancing unicorns or what have you.


You have no idea of what you are talking about or what gives the surplus energy.

gurangax

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2014, 04:13:45 AM »
Gurangax,

You are such a predictable little scumbag.

I'll give you 5$ if you come over here and suck it hard.


This is what I like by doing it slowly, I get some disbelievers and some that do believe or at least very interested in it. At least somo one who threatens still doesnt come up yet.


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MarkE

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2014, 05:00:36 AM »

You have no idea of what you are talking about or what gives the surplus energy.
Where is your evidence?  I have plenty of evidence that the gravitational field is conservative.

gurangax

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2014, 05:09:50 AM »
Where is your evidence?  I have plenty of evidence that the gravitational field is conservative.


I have no problem with gravity being conservative as i do think so too. What goes up must come down according to the gravity you only need to know the trick. anyway i have work to do brb.


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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2014, 06:23:52 AM »
Ah, "The Trick" changes all science and physics as we know it.  Of course, he can not demonstrate this but, we should believe this to be true.  Why do all of these people sound the same?  Does this guy know Wayne, Rose, Mylow, and I can't remember all of the others?

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2014, 07:07:11 AM »
I will disclose it but not so soon. Do you even understand what this means?


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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2014, 07:09:38 AM »
I will disclose it but not so soon. Do you even understand what this means?


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Do you?

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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2014, 08:23:06 AM »

Getting paid is what I need. But if things doesnt go according to plan then let it be.  I really think that Bessler is the one who deserves it. Without him no one will ever seek the truth of a real working perpetual motion device. Well since it is driven by gravity it should be called a perpetual motion until gravity itself diminished.


Im planning on requesting donations once everyone is satisfied, Im sure there are some reasonable people still alive today. If not then all the works which I will be doing here will just be another stupid thing which I have ever done.


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Getting paid is what I need.

I see. And lifting the entire human race out of poverty and slavery to the energy establishment and its deadly pollution is not what you need.

Thanks for the clarification.


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Re: how much is bessler wheel valued at?
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2014, 06:57:34 PM »
I see the news media saying little or nothing.
I see people with a wheel get a special meter that charges the customer both direction so you pay for what you produce.
I see adds on the internet selling plans for how to build one and not paying the inventor.
I see electric companies with farms of wheels under their windmills and not paying the inventor but having lawyers to bury the inventor in court.
I see ordinances that limit the size of a generator in towns and only those out of town will be able to use them at least until the Gov. takes their land away using eminent domain for other purposes.
I see if people don't go out and show? No one will truly know it ever really exist but be distracted by their new masters the smart (@$$) phone with their latest app.

A drive to educate the people is the only true way to make real progress.

Alan

The BIG P.S.!!!   I see a pain in the @$$ future to get people who have been programed to believe it is impossible to open their eyes and minds. But!! it can be done, one person at a time.