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Author Topic: Some Interesting Results with a 3 Phase Motor - 95 Watts Free?  (Read 20486 times)

ingyenenergiagep

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Re: Some Interesting Results with a 3 Phase Motor - 95 Watts Free?
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2013, 03:33:44 PM »
Hi all!
I have got 2200W 935/min 3-phase 380/230V motor in star. I can drive it about 50Hz with my 40V 300W 3-phase permanent magnet generator. I can run the motor 935/min without load with only one hand (I turn the generator with one hand, 50W mechanical power, or less). The 380/220V motor starts turning 1-2V AC only...

When I dont put mechanical energy to the generator, the system decelerate, and the motor is the generator, and the generator is the motor. The motor drive the generator, like a 3-phase generator and a 3-phase motor.

I think if you choose a good value of capacitors, the coils and caps make RESONANCE, the electricity makes more work on motor, the same work uses less electricity from the power supply.

Try different loads for find the best efficiency (and try 25, 40, 60, 100W bulbs). Pin, Pout.

tim123

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Re: Some Interesting Results with a 3 Phase Motor - 95 Watts Free?
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2013, 08:30:31 PM »
Hi E2M :)
 I've played around with RVs - I've 2 x 2Hp motors, and I'm looking for a big 10Kw+ one.  (there are 2 15Kw ones on ebay atm - they weigh 92 Kgs each - £200... very tempted...) 3 phase motors are awesomely cool, and Mr Tesla was very awesome for inventing them.

Both my motors will run at designated speed on about 4 watts of power. I would expect a really big one to need maybe 10-15 watts.

You * absolutely have to have * a capacitor switch box. It's not possible to investigate the effect without one. I bought my (450v motor run) caps all new - it cost about £50. I used 4-gang light switches, and a rectangular plastic planter to put it in.

I really doubt you need to fear for your life at this stage mate. If it is OU - it's not obvious - lots of people have tried... It is fun, though, and you shouldn't stop having fun. ;)

The reason the power usage goes down when you connect the light is maybe due to power factor correction? Or it's maybe because the total resistance is increasing? Either way - 73 watts is a lot of input power...

Also - you really need the variac going too. My RV's run happily on about 20v.

I've been looking at variable inverter drives. £90 on ebay... Trouble with those is you can't vary the voltage. Also, I've a feeling they might blow up if you try to use just one phase...

I've been thinking about building my own single-phase variable drive - using a tank-circuit in a switchbox with variable inductance and capacitance, and a ZVS driver and 12v batteries...

I currently need a decent drive system for testing out generators - maybe using an RV... I'm building a few VAWTs to put around the place, and I've bought a couple of cheap DC motor / generators to use. I want to test 'em out before I install them...

Regards
Tim

wings

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Re: Some Interesting Results with a 3 Phase Motor - 95 Watts Free?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2013, 10:02:11 AM »
Hi all!

I think if you choose a good value of capacitors, the coils and caps make RESONANCE, the electricity makes more work on motor, the same work uses less electricity from the power supply.

Try different loads for find the best efficiency (and try 25, 40, 60, 100W bulbs). Pin, Pout.

search patents from Cravens L. WANLASS like
US4959573.pdf
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/awan.html


FatBird

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Re: Some Interesting Results with a 3 Phase Motor - 95 Watts Free?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2016, 04:03:15 PM »
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