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Re: Oldie but Goldie
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2020, 02:48:30 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2021, 10:36:28 AM »
Thinking about alternatives :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/194101/umfrage/produktion-von-zink-weltweit-nach-laendern/


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/37022/umfrage/produktion-von-kupfer-weltweit/%23:~:text%3DWeltweit%2520befinden%2520sich%2520die%2520gr%25C3%25B6%25C3%259Ften,aus%2520Erzen%252C%2520Kies%2520und%2520Sanden.


the material related ,watercell :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19280203&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


                                                              cuivre, eau, zinc


http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=633752&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en


                                                              copper, water, zinc.

tension 1,2 Volts by current 1,5 Ampere  each


320 units package = 380 Volts electric drive charging ( with over-voltage protection)


for an electric engine like


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780601&CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2653497&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en


several faults in the above calculation to find ( page 5/6)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP



but an electric engine with low e-input and high torque output ,C.O.P. 200 aequivalent , was the final result,based by the original formula

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2021, 04:06:25 PM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5374914A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=4&date=19941220&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

For a bus, a module 10 would have a diameter of 80 inches, and a height of 27 inches.
Its energy storage capacity would be 200 kwh.

200 KWh storage dimension comparison !
https://www.quora.com/How-hard-would-it-be-to-make-a-200kwh-homemade-super-capacitor


As same as 20 litres gasoil a 10 KWh/litre
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2021, 02:31:07 PM »

https://www.google.com/search?q=battery+improving+charge+algorithm&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&ei=U_fmYN6YO5CD8gKe35bQBg&oq=battery+improving+charge+algorithm&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAEEcQsAM6CAgAEAcQHhATOgQIABATOgoIABAIEAcQHhATOgwIABAIEAcQChAeEBM6CAgAEA0QHhATOggIABAIEAcQHjoKCAAQCBAHEAoQHjoECCEQFUoECEEYAFDcyQFYvfcBYP6FAmgBcAJ4AIABvAGIAdIMkgEEMTYuMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwiejrSbxNPxAhWQgVwKHZ6vBWoQ4dUDCA4

for example : http://commutercars.com/downloads/chargeAlgorithm.pdf


                     Improving the cycle life of VRLAs by a factor of 3–4 could make lead acid EVs competitive with other types of batteries.

http://www.bticcs.com/
The precise process improves the reliability and life of the battery (>5000 Cycles) ,up to 5 times rated charge cycles

https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2018/ta/c8ta00962g#!divAbstract
We demonstrate that the cycle life of LiFePO4/Li metal batteries is prolonged from 700 to more than 6500 cycles at high charge-rates.

https://www.alibaba.com/premium/lifepo4_battery_12v_100ah.html?src=sem_ggl&cmpgn=13238754168&adgrp=122377539773&fditm=&tgt=aud-806308081856:kwd-309714728370&locintrst=&locphyscl=1011756&mtchtyp=e&ntwrk=g&device=c&dvcmdl=&creative=523678525192&plcmnt=&plcmntcat=&p1=&p2=&aceid=&position=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqvrRv77T8QIVhO7tCh3logy0EAAYASAAEgJAXPD_BwE


Actually average 250 US$ fob factory for lifepo4 12 V/100 Ah battery capacity ( by different listed battery cycle numbers : 1000 - 5000 )








              https://web.archive.org/web/20080310222049/http://flywheel.esmartbiz.com/car.htm


   In March 1976, the University of California at Berkeley's Institute for Transportation Engineering published a paper, "Electric Highway Vehicles... Technology Assessment of Future Intercity Transportation Systems" contributed by Dick Fradella.     


                              He has demonstrated it to countless manufacturers and researchers involved with EVs.           
                              Average life of motor-cycle batteries in the demo has been about 10 years.                                               
                              These batteries were guaranteed to last only 90 days.             = 1/4 year       


                                                                                                        40 times improvement


by industry rated 1000 charge cycles


                        X


charger 5- 40 times battery lifetime/output improvement


                       X


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


[0009]

According to the present invention, an output power larger than the input power can be easily obtained.

For example, if the efficiency is 500% (5 times), the output power corresponding to 100% is reduced to the input power to continue the operation, and the difference power, that is, the amount of electricity corresponding to 400% of 500% -100%. It is natural that can be used arbitrarily outside.
Tanaka Saburo DC/AC-inverter 5 times input/output ratio improvement


from actually 1000 KWh battery lifetime output to 25 000 KWh and more

Private households,on- or off-grid with 1000 KWh electric consume per year will only more need to buy a new electric storage after 25 years (or more )use  !



Electric car batteries will hold longer or more mileage per Kg battery !

https://www.arrow.com/en/research-and-events/articles/supercapacitor-vs-battery-ultracapacitor-pros-and-cons


https://www.engadget.com/2016-11-22-super-capacitor-battery-30000-cycles.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC_rw38bIlutckWqlDfrjFhXSNAc_RBlYf6YGyUOZUte2bJDtcR0jnZZTcFa1CE3rh5vduysQJ6M5RcFjBC0pu1r2b6_44ie90F4J8e3cgww6CvG11RinFf2RqqtqJxeuI2uNOhqQIgsGSJDOZC8KPc4w8HaXLFLwwfhdMyIpm7S

And lab science will have more time for research about the hybrid bridge between 1 000 000 - 2 000 000 charge cycles ultra-capacitor https://www.skeletontech.com/ultracapacitor-technology


and 10 000,25 000,40 000-50 000 100% DoD charge cycles batteries !

10 000 cc : https://www.sunwindenergy.com/news/zsw-produces-batteries-10000-charge-cycles


                 https://insideevs.com/news/323329/ornl-solid-state-battery-test-90-of-original-capacity-after-10000-cycles/




                https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/04/20210406-cornell.html

25 000 cc : https://www.facebook.com/ADGEX.official/videos/energybrick-new-generation-of-sustainable-batteries/900288996796267/


40 000 /50 000 cc :  https://biosolar.com/technology/


                               https://chargedevs.com/newswire/xalt-claims-unprecedented-cycle-life-performance-for-its-new-lithium-titanate-cell-technology/

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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2021, 03:13:16 AM »
Looking at these incredible advances in battery life, charge cycles and overall output, I can't help but wonder if this has been within industry manufacturing capabilities for some time, but withheld from the public to sell more units and keep the market more active.
Thanks for keeping this one alive, Lanca.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2021, 12:59:55 PM »



Thanks for the "flowers" !


It is information in progress !


I would like to see ,by given publication and production process knowledge and " marketing" patent grant saved/open source condition :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021231&CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1


This invention relates to a solid state Quantum high Energy density Storage Or Retrieval device known as a quensor, and the trademark ENSOR(TM), having an energy density of about 1-15 kwhr/kg, comparable to gasoline, or more to a theoretical limit of about 75 kwhr/kg, is described.

8. The device of this invention is solid state. There is no chemical reaction. Energy is stored or released by the motion of electrons in the cells throughout the quensor film.
Comparing the electric energy storage of the present invention with the prior art conventional capacitor, the sustainable electric field is about 10<10 >v/m an increase by a factor of about 500.
Because of the atomic scale of each cell, electron motion is confined to small distances where the laws of quantum mechanics prevail;
 and in which no electron avalanche and no electric breakdown occurs.


This enables an enormous increase in the electric energy storage or retrieval per unit weight; of the order of about 1-15 kWhr/kg, or more; and solves the problems of the prior art.


kw hrs/kg          15

Cost              <$25.




the inverter system

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190207&CC=JP&NR=2019022271A&KC=A


In order to solve the above problems, the power supply device of the present invention includes


 a battery,


 arranges a DC / AC inverter that inputs the DC power of the battery,


and arranges a phase generation transformer


and a resonance capacitor between the inverter and the load.




the inverter and phase generation transformer produced by this financial/economical condition :


https://overunity.com/2606/electricity-saver/   Reply #3 :

http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/

https://web.archive.org/web/20130901130624/http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/

It is common for a 5kW planar transformer to cost in the region of  $23  nowadays,
 and in volumes of 100k+ prices below   $10  per piece are easily achievable.


product incorporated these advantages :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1

C.O.P. 5 input/output                      C.O.P. 4 by 1 unit recharge ( bticc Wiesspeiner charger : 99 % efficiency claimed)


400 US$ for 40 000 KWh output ,by Saburo inverter  system cycle C.O.P. 4X and 10 000 charge cycles battery/charger system !?


                                                            1 US$-cent per KWh


100 US$  the battery 


100 US$ the charger ( commercially under patent grant condition and as shop price "normally" 500 US$ )


200 US$ the Saburo inverter/transformer ( commercially under patent grant condition and as shop price "normally" 1000 US$ )


endconsumer price ,fob factory but included transport/delivery costs


But we can calculate alternatively with "less stress" :

from 400 US$/ 40 000 KWh output                                      = 1 US$-cent/KWh

to      600 US$/ 40 000 KWh output = 1,5 US$-cents/KWh

to      400 US$/ 20 000 KWh output = 2,0 US$-cents/KWh

to      600 US$/ 20 000 KWh output                                     =  3,0 US$-cents/KWh

to       800 US$/  40 000  KWh output                                    =  2,0 US$-cents/KWh

to      800 US$ /20 000 KWh output                                      =  4,0 US$-cents /KWh




                            b2b US electricity market price : 5,5 US$-cents/KWh


25 US$ the Marks-Quensor and 2x 10 US$ ( 100 K mass production) 5 KW inverter/transformer + capacitor : < 100 US$ level
here without extra charger costs

                                                           100 US$ / 10 000 KWh = 1 US$-cent/KWh

                                         life-time transformer (phase change/inverter) ? replacement battery !

                                                          50 US$ x 2 + 50 US$ / 20 000 KWh =






                                                       this is a billions units market !


                                                               mobil and stationary


And I know that the Quensor publication is from 2002 (industrial product price index national/world),
but also the liquid elements 3d-print process progress and production price decrease !


Liquid metals from 15 US$/Kg to 1 US$/Kg preview included !




For low power appliances "wire sputting" technique :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=kaifler&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search




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a comparison :


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/30000-cycle-lishen-50c-100c-high-rate-2-5v-18ah-60138-lithium-titanate-lto-battery-for-car-audio-1600095570460.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.maylikeexp.5.60243b4efV9aii


endconsumer price   2,5 Volt a 18 Ah = 45 VAh = 22 ,22 x = > 1 000 VAh , 23 x12,7 Euros  = < 300 Euros/ 1 KVAh


300 Euros / 1 KWh     : 30 000 charge cycle 100 % DoD = 1 Euro-cent/charge cyle or KWh storage


                                                                  80%  DoD     1,25 Eurocents /charge cycle or KWh storage




the above Lithium-Titanate market price in US$ : 350 /KWh

Nano-Boxx


https://www.google.com/search?q=nano-boxx&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=nano-boxx&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0i19j69i59j0i13i19i30l7.4682j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup

                            It can produce power for about eleven years without charging.



40 US$/KWh mass production costs / 10 years permanent 1 KW electricity delivery


                                                      10 years x 8766 hours per year


40 US$ =4000 US$-cents              /  87 660 KWh = 0,045 US$cent /KWh                           


                                                             or 0,00045 US$ per KWh


                         mass production costs x over-head costs/margin ? average 6 times ? more/less ?


300 US$ /KWh Nano-Boxx market price by guaranted 10 years up to 8766 hours = 0,35 US$cent/KWh seems attractive !


                                   Less than         1/15   b2b    electricity market price in the USA




                                                    fast and furious  grid killer technology !


                              " autonomous energy" mobility : civil and military ,sub-sea,sea,land,air
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2021, 01:55:34 AM »
The actual economical benchmark numbers to compete :


AirWatt(Prueitt),AirPower(Hirshberg),aveurope.net energyconverter 24/365     1 US$cent/KWh   e-generation


                CO2-free (only partial by plant construction,CO2-emission free electricity )






Now the following market prices + CO2 emission certification costs : 50 Euros/ton CO2


a. 1 US$cent/KWh shale gas USA


b. 0,5 US$cent(in Rubel)/KWh natural gas Russia


c. 0,002 US$/KWh petrol/gasoline Venezuela https://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-petrol-prices-and-gdp-per-capita.php


d. the Venezuela-petrol price as barrel-KWh equivalent : 3,2 US$/ = 42 gallons or 159 liters or 1600 KWh




                                               stationary / in situ   electricity by renewable e(lectrons)-gas cycle :       


                                                                        target 3,2 US$/1600 KWh ( ~ barrel e-gas )




reference :


 KiloWattLabs 1400 AUS$/KWh storage = 1000 US$/KWh 1000000 charge cycles = 0,1 US$cent/KWh charge cycle

https://kilowattlabs.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhY2R8bLm8QIVIu7mCh1kCgy1EAAYASAAEgJYzfD_BwE


https://www.solarbatteriesonline.com.au/product/sirius-energy-storage-capacitor-module-3-55kwh-48v/

https://www.nautimarket-europe.com/en/Kilowatt-Labs-SIRIUS-1-12-Supercapacitor-Battery-1kWh-12V-22134X-UF22134X

1 KWh unit : 1400 Euros/23 Kg = > 60 Euros/Kg


  Lithium Titanate Oxide battery


 Yinlong https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-yinlong.html          300 US$/ KWh       25 000 charge cycles      15,6 Kg/KWh


 Xalt https://www.xaltenergy.com/total-system-solutions/                                              40 000 charge cycles

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/01/21/xalt-energy-announces-joint-venture-jobs.html
https://www.dbusiness.com/people/dow-kokam-receives-michigan-tax-credits-for-hybrid-and-electric-vehicle-battery-pack-production/
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/11/dow-hpl-20091112.html

HPL was spun out from Professor Graetzel’s laboratory at the EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Switzerland) in 2003 and is focused on the development of nano-structured metal oxide energy storage materials and novel electrolytes for use in next generation lithium ion batteries.


                                    2003 with maximal 20 years patent validation : 2023 !





 the Yinlong battery with 65 Wh/Kg ,like the Xalt Gen I ( 75 Wh/Kg) LTO,the Xalt Gen II LTO now with 223 Wh/Kg










 we can expect over the next years a 300 US$/KWh to 150 US$/KWh Yinlong LTO battery type price decrease (LTO patent validation period)








150 US$ the 5 KW Saburo inverter/phase converter and 3 replacement 150 US$ LTO batteries a 25 000 charge cycles,100% DoD :


     600 US$/ [( 25 000 cc x 3 batteries ) x C.O.P. 4 Tanaka-circuit ]


 =  600 US$/ 300 000 charge cycle KWh


 =  0,2 US$cent/KWh


      x 1600 


 =  3,2 US$/barrel e-gas




What is the overhead-neutral and material-neutral battery production price,the simple industrial transformation service  ?


when a Lead-battery with 1 KWh storage capacity costs 40 US$(gross selling.fob factory) we get a total 2 US$/Kg battery price .




Lithium(pure metal) as Lithium Carbonat in batteries :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_battery#:~:text=Lithium%20batteries%20are%20widely%20used,kg%20of%20lithium%20per%20kWh.


6000 US$/ton Lithium Carbonat by 850 Grams per KWh = 5,1 US$ "Lithium C" worth per KWh capacity or 1 US$/Kg battery




Yinlong LTO 300 US$/15,6 Kg                        =                  19,25 US$/Kg selling price


Lead battery 2 US$/Kg + 1 US$/Kg Lithium C =                    3     US$/ Kg basic material + transformation service costs




https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385  2 US$/Kg  10 000 charge cycle version


https://newatlas.com/energy/gmg-graphene-aluminium-ion-battery/


https://revolution-green.com/sunvault-energy-graphene-based-supercapacitor/


                                                        2015


SUNVAULT ENERGY RECENTLY DISPLAYED THE ABILITY TO 3D PRINT DEVICE PARTS, WHICH CAN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE MANUFACTURING COSTS.


THEY PREDICT IT WILL BE BELOW $50 USD PER KILOWATT HOUR OR ONE THRID OF THE NEW TESLA BATTERY

https://qnovo.com/82-the-cost-components-of-a-battery/
https://qnovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Batterycost.png 2016


                                                                                                              2020

                                Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $100/kWh


https://about.bnef.com/blog/battery-pack-prices-cited-below-100-kwh-for-the-first-time-in-2020-while-market-average-sits-at-137-kwh/




                                                                                                            2030




                                 Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $ ?? /KWh ::)  by ?? 000 charge cycles,100 % DoD






https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352152X21004783


The techno-economic simulation output provided that the system with Li-ion battery resulted in a Levelized Cost of Energy (LCOE) of 0.32 €/kWh ;D  compared to the system with lead-acid battery with LCOE of 0.34 €/kWh  ;D .






                              Noe,abspecken :           


                             LCOE of 0,32 US$/160 KWh   


                             lean price management


                             on-shore,portable,flexible




We do possibilities,by reference :


Yinlong 300 US$/15,6 Kg price ,KiloWattLabs Kg price 1000 US$/(75 Kg/3,55)


when KiloWattLabs superbattery delivers 1 000 000 charge cycles and a transformer works 80 000 hours ( coil life time) this equals 12 times a. new transformer cycle/circuitb. or 2x times transformer cycle/circuit  with periodically one parts refurbishment and reuse


1000 US$ the 1 KWh superbattery and 12x 200 US$ the transformer cycle/circuit ( 1x inverter + 1x phase converter) = total 3400 US$
3400 US$/ 4 000 000 C.O.P. 4x  1 000 000 charge cycles = 3400 US$/ 4 000 000 KWh = 0,00085 US$/KWh


                or                                0,32 US$/376 KWh


1 000 US$ the 1 KWh superbattery and 2x transformer cycle/circuit and max. 150 US$ each refurbishment = total 2900 US$
2900 US$/ 4 000 000 C.O.P. 4x 1 000 000 charge cycles = 2900 US$/ 4 000 000 KWh = 0,000725 US$/KWh


               or                                0,32 US$/441 KWh




https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233

Ultrafast all-climate aluminum-graphene battery with quarter-million cycle life

1 Kg battery specific material content ?

battery-grade graphene production costs  preview : < 10 US$/Kg


aluminium production costs,Sherba :                      <   1 US$/Kg


coal to graphene :

https://www.iea.org/reports/coal-2020/prices-and-costs                base material 5 $cents/Kg

https://www.ohio.edu/research/tto/technologies/environmental-science/low-cost-production-graphene-coal


low cost CVD reactor :


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00051144.2018.1528691






2011 numbers :


https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2011/04/commercialization-of-graphene.html

f.e.


It has been predicted that graphene nanoplatelets can be produced at $5 per pound.
 If such costs could be achieved it will provide major disruption in the nanocomposites marketplace.




Now also possible : CO2 from air scrubbing,financed by CO2-producer and https://www.compositesworld.com/news/kit-produces-graphene-from-carbon-dioxide


https://www.google.com/search?q=co2+to+graphene&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=co2+to+graphene&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i19i22i30i59.6745j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


theoretically ,by CO2-charge   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax               , Zero costs graphene up to "negative costs price" per Kg production and selling !




https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233 by lead-battery selling price ! NOT IMPOSSIBLE !


                                                       Net 40 US$/250 000 charge cycles


The energy density of AIB (40 to 60 Wh kg−1) =  average 1 KWh/ 20 Kg X


https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385  2 US$/Kg   10 000 charge cycle version



                                     = 1 KWh/ 20 Kg            x 2 US$/Kg     = 40 US$




           40 US$ per KWh capacity storage / 250 000 charge cycles = 0,016 cent/KWh per unit e-gas storage


                                                                                       or         0,00016 US$/KWh per unit e-gas storage


                                              6 times cheaper than KiloWattLabs superbattery !

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2021, 01:38:57 AM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&ND=4

 In practice submitted to several measures and tests we obtained a residual power consumption of 6 mA resulting more from cable feed then coil power consumption.


                                             electrical VA input/magnetical to mechanical W output ?


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040226&CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1






https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3826970A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19900215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=16&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19821007&CC=DE&NR=3039176A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19810723&CC=DE&NR=3002327A1&KC=A1




https://fbadhusha.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/9/5/3895546/ele-pulse-power.pdf


         PIC     =300х50=          15 kW = 15 000 W


 PC = PIC ⋅ Z =15000х0.0096           =      144 W


Thus, the power pulse shown in Fig. 3 has not 15 kW and not 144.8 W,


but only     


 P = UC ⋅ IC = 2.88⋅ 0.48 =                      1.40W


https://www.productinfo.schneider-electric.com/ion9000/5b92c16783d55700015689f0/ION9000%20user%20manual/English/BM_ION9000seriesUserManual_0000226366.ditamap/$/C_IO_CalculateMaxPulseWeight_HEP_0000055491


66 Wh/Kg energy storage density and 175 KW/Kg power density ,up to 250 000 charge cycles

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233


The Kanarev pulse power : 15 000 W    or          144 W                   or      1,4 W               power density            demand  ?


                                       / 175 KW                  /175 KW                      / 175 KW


as perpetuum feedback electric pulse to magnetic pulse to electric .... cycle/circuit the energy density demand  ?



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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2021, 06:05:24 AM »

similar rotative generator-free concept : 1 W/1$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7LH_C_qN6w



This works best when the length of the band is 1 wavelength.
And the magnet placed at the 1/4 wavelength node.





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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2021, 11:48:19 AM »
weight to power ratio

https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_stevens_how_much_does_a_video_weigh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron

KWh or KJ


https://www.quora.com/Does-electricity-have-weight


A gram of “electricity” (EM energy) is 25,000 megawatt-hours, or the energy released by a 22 kiloton nuke blast.

If you consider electricity to be electrons, yes it weighs a tiny bit - about a gram for 1000,000,000 joules worth at 1 volt.


https://www.asknumbers.com/kilojoules-to-mwh.aspx






https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Barrels_of_oil_equivalent#:~:text=A%20barrel%20of%20oil%20is%20also%20significantly%20heavy.,pounds%20or%20about%20136%20kilograms.


Since average domestic crude oil weighs about 7.21 pounds per gallon, a barrel of oil weighs around 300 pounds or about 136 kilograms.


The amount of energy that this amount equates to is dependent on the energy density of oil, and ends up making 1 BOE equal to 5.7  or 1.7 MWh.

1,7 MWh for 136 Kg weight or    12,5 Wh/Gram


This 12,5 Wh/Gram as ic-combustion engine power-to-wheel < average 10% efficiency ( from 30-40 % peak efficiency) =


                                                1,25 Wh/Gr. (without crude oil to gasoil/gasoline transformation energy losts)


A gram


            of “electricity” (EM energy) is 25,000 megawatt-hours


            of "crude oil "                    is 12,5             Watt-hour




                          the over 1 million times difference




         or                          1cbm to 1 cbcm                 change




                                 
                                        weight to power and/or power to weight


                                                                   ratio






                              per hour/day/week/month/year/service life          KWh/Kg or KWh/Gram




Nano-Boxx : https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup


in 10 years                             87660 KWh output /  Kg weight




https://contest.techbriefs.com/2014/entries/sustainable-technologies/4132
https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en


Dimensions of Generator
The generator has 10 interlocking inductor and inductee sections. The overall dimension of the nominal generator is approximately H4.5 cm×W4.5 cm×L35 cm, not including the casing=708 cm3 (43 In3), not including the automobile battery or computerized control module.


Let us assume this 708 cm3 x average material specific weight 7 Gr./cm3 = total 5 Kg (without processs start battery )

Net Power Output after Feedback of 13.32 Kva
The net output at 400 Hz is 16.871 Kva (22.6 Hp); at 800 Hz, 33.7 Kva (45.2 Hp); at 3 KHz=128 Kva (171.5 Hp); at 6 KHz=256 Kva (343 Hp); at 60 Khz=2.560 Kva; at 600 KHz=25.60 Kva; at 780 KHz=33.254 Kva.


Generator Rating Per Hour and Observations
The cyclic output per second is multiplied by 3600 to indicate the generator's hourly rating. Thus, at 400 Hz=60.7 Kva/h; at 800 Hz=121.4 Kva/h; at 3 KHz=460.8 Kva/h; at 6 KHz=921.6 Kva/h; at 60 KHz=9.26 Mw/h; at 600 KLHz=92.166 Kw/h; at 780 KHz=119.7 Mw/h. we take : "..... The net output at 400 Hz is 16.871 Kva ....." / 8 for 50 Hz conventional private household frequency use = 2,1 KW[/font][/size]


(8766 x 2,1 KW )/ 5 Kg =                     1 year 3681 KWh/Kg power to weight ratio       or 3,6 KWh/Gr. ratio



for matter to nano-powder use ( coal to graphit to graphene,elements to nano-elements grains/powder) ,
( mechanical pendant : WindHex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windhexe   )

f.e. 22 KHz ultra-sonic level

https://www.cndailymag.com/ultrasonic-cell-crusher.html

(8766 x 91,4 KW)/ 5 Kg =                    1 year 160 242 KWh/Kg power to weight ratio     or    160,2 KWh/Gr. ratio





https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=15&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881020&CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1


To clarify the operation of this embodiment according to the invention, the following dimensioning of the transformer windings is given using Figure 17 as an example, the iron cores being dimensioned in accordance with the manner usual for transformers:


- winding 81: 1000 windings, 220 V/50 Hz, 5 A at full load;
- winding 82: 1 winding, 5000 A;
- winding 84: 1000 windings, 5000 A;
 - winding 85: 1100 windings, 4500 A, 220 V/50 Hz.


From the above example it is evident that, with a coil 82 having 5000 ampere windings, a flux variation of 5000000 ampere windings can be generated with the superconducting coil 84. Accordingly, a generated power of 990 kW can be drawn from the terminals 89 for a power supplied to the connecting terminals 88 of 1 . 1 kW, and this corresponds to a power gain of approximately a factor of 1000.





 with a coil 82 having 5000 ampere windings, a flux variation of 5000000 ampere windings can be generated :


         with 5000 Ampére coil windings generating 5 000 000 Ampére (flux or currrent)turns (or Ampére rotations)


                               this is the common amplifier internal velocity change effect

                                           by applied Ampére- alias Laplace- alias Biot-Savart Law

                  latinum : fluere = Deutsch  stro(e)men or currere ,o Corrente der Korridor


                           Flux = der Strom-/Flusz ,the Flow,the Stream ,the Current

https://www.google.com/search?q=biot-savart-gesetz&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=biot-savart&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l9.5609j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


(8766 hours x 990 KW )/ ? weight = 1 year   8 678 340  KWh/ ? Kg   or   8,67 GWh/ ? Kg    power to weight ratio

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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2021, 09:00:43 PM »
Good news for cheap electric storage :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.electrive.net/2021/07/29/catl-will-natrium-ionen-batterie-bis-2023-bringen/


mass production cost preview :


https://www.golem.de/news/akkutechnik-catl-stellt-erste-natrium-ionen-akkus-fuer-autos-vor-2107-158529.html


Die Kosten sollen in Massenproduktion umgerechnet zwischen 25 und 35 Euro pro Kilowattstunde betragen.


In mass production, the costs should be between 25 and 35 euros per kilowatt hour.

 

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