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Author Topic: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...  (Read 148094 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2012, 04:56:40 AM »
Oh, one more thing. 50hz in, there are 2 zero crossings per cycle. So my switching was 100hz in the sim, as 25hz would only switch 1 out of 4 zero crossings. So I believe 25hz is not accurate according to the first scope example.

Maybe this was already discussed.

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« Reply #91 on: January 01, 2013, 04:13:49 AM »
Hi Verpies,

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Nice try. You are trying to substitute the photons in a LASER or MASER by magnetic field.

But magnetic field does not travel like photons thus it cannot be reflected between the bismuth mirrors to do anything more in the gain medium (not that Bi is an effective diamagnetic anyway).

The closest idea to yours is McFreey's BASER, which uses high speed electrons (or positrons) in place of photons. Electrons are traveling particles, too. In the BASER they are not confined in the gain medium by mirrors, but by a "magnetic bottle".

I wasn't to sure but thanks for the information on Baser's. I've never heard of them, do you have any sites for them?

Have a Happy New Year, all.

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« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2013, 05:15:13 AM »
Say we have two disc's.  that are nice uniform think magnets and you have a coil that runs in bettween them and you pulse that coil and when it comes out it drags more energy than it was originally.  TK's bag that looked like a lunch bag.  What was in it was all taped up, but it could be 2 large magnets with a coil in between them.

In one of TK's videos when he starts up his device you hear a very large coil vibrate.  It sounded like large degaussing magnet.  Does anyone else know what that sound is, if it's not a degaussing coil. 

This might be way out of left field, but what would happen if you used a degaussing coil in his setup??

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« Reply #93 on: January 04, 2013, 12:33:07 PM »
Say we have two disc's.  that are nice uniform think magnets and you have a coil that runs in between them and you pulse that coil and when it comes out it drags more energy than it was originally. 
Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.
Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.
Beta Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

The light or microwaves are confined in the gain medium by reflection. Their paths are straight and the devices are mostly tubular.
Betas can be confined in the gain medium by curving/looping their paths with a magnetic field, and then the device starts resembling a spool.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 04:23:14 PM by verpies »

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« Reply #94 on: January 04, 2013, 06:42:23 PM »
That's a sexy picture, verpies...  That looks familiar, Mcfreey I think...   On the other hand can ANYONE READING THIS FORUM TELL ME WHAT IS IN THIS PICTURE AT THE BACK IN THE BLACK BOX WITH A 3 on it????? It looks like it has two wires on it.  It not a circuit breaker is it??  What about the other black box???  It's a little different..

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« Reply #95 on: January 04, 2013, 06:46:06 PM »
If it looks like a spool then if you put paper around the outer rim and tapped it up and put it on it's top then it would look like a can, Yes??

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« Reply #96 on: January 04, 2013, 07:15:32 PM »
That's a sexy picture, verpies...  That looks familiar, Mcfreey I think...   
It's just a simulation of a magnetic spool (two steel disks with a magnet between them).
It's not a McFreey's picture, but he writes about flux guides like that.

On the other hand can ANYONE READING THIS FORUM TELL ME WHAT IS IN THIS PICTURE AT THE BACK IN THE BLACK BOX WITH A 3 on it? ??? ? It looks like it has two wires on it.  It not a circuit breaker is it?? 
It looks like an ignition  capacitor from the Lada car.

What about the other black box???  It's a little different..
I don't know.

If it looks like a spool then if you put paper around the outer rim and tapped it up and put it on it's top then it would look like a can, Yes??
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« Reply #97 on: January 04, 2013, 07:56:01 PM »
I like you already verpies..  I don't know why yet, but I get a good felling from you, even if you were a government troll..   We need to make a list and start this off on the right path.  The list should only contain parts that we are 98% sure of or abouts...  I want to put placement on that.  I believe that the placement of the coil and the can or the source has a lot to do with the precession.    It seems that in most of his show offs at his house.  The coil and the can are arranged in such a manner..  any words on this or the list idea.

I did notice that the top of the can is Brass and in the TPU videos, he also has brass in the middle of the large toroids.  Maybe the combination of Zinc and Copper has a good mixture for use in some way.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 01:56:17 AM by elementSix »

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« Reply #98 on: January 05, 2013, 01:18:22 AM »
If you want to be a good scientist you should not concentrate on liking a person but rather liking his/her ideas, logic, manner of expression, intellectual honesty, etc...  The same goes for disliking. The most important thing is to limit any critique to the subject matter - not to the person.

Brass consists of copper and zinc and both of  those elements have isotopes that are good beta emitters and have nuclear spins that make them good subjects for NMR.  McFreey even specifically writes about those two elements.
He makes the observation that the FWHM of NMR is very narrow in Zinc so it is very hard to find its resonance frequency.  But it still should be possible with the nanopulse "gunshot method" or the more energy efficient - FM method.

Please note that I still do not understand why nuclear precession is needed in the BASER.  I see the need for spin polarization in a magnetic field but I don't see what good the precession is for. 

Of course, just because I don't understand it doesn't mean that nuclear precession is not needed to complete the effect, somehow.

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« Reply #99 on: January 05, 2013, 01:53:33 AM »
OK, Today I re-watched the green box video with English sub's.  I also watched the 2004 video.  In the 2004 video at 24min. 30seconds is when TK pulls the cord off of the inverter and the unit powers down.  Turn the sound up and listen to the sound that it makes.  There are two parts of the wind down and I don't know what it is.  It could be the inverter, but I don't think it is.  It makes a very unique sound that I am unfamiliar with.  I know everyone has seen it a thousand times, but listen to it again if you don't have a copy on your CPU then here is the link.  Let me know your thoughts on what it could be. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE

When I said that.. Thats what I meant.  Your ideas and your logic. Not in a gay way of course..  You are open to this Idea and that sets you apart from almost all others on the other TK 5KW forum.. Thats what I meant.  I don't know you as a person, so I wouldn't talk about that.  Sorry If I offended you in some way.. 
I have only been learning electronics for a little over a year now.  So it's hard for me to grasp things, but also because parts of my brain that work with memory and cognitive thinking were damaged as a child.  I learn best by working with it and figuring it out, rather than being told how to do something.  So bare with me when it comes to basic knowledge and how things work..  Thanks..
Now if TK really is a fraud, I will save my money to go over there and break every finger on his crooked hand..
« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 06:23:33 AM by elementSix »

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« Reply #100 on: January 05, 2013, 03:04:34 PM »
The most characteristic feature of the sound you mentioned at 24m30s is its high- frequency content.
By "high-frequency" I mean >50Hz, e.g. 100Hz, 150Hz, 200Hz, which is not "high" by electronic standards at all.
The 50Hz buzzing is the strongest frequency that can be heard before and after the jack is pulled, thus it can be assumed that 50Hz is the main stimulating frequency.
Additionally higher frequencies can be heard which are most likely harmonics of the 50Hz.

This resembles a sound that a saturated transformer makes while an excessive current flows through its windings.  Welders often hear a similar sound. The nonlinearity of the saturated core can create higher harmonics, that can be identified in that sound.  This principle is used in ferromagnetic frequency multipliers (FFM). You can read about them here.

I am not claiming that this is a sound of a deliberate FFM. It is much more likely that it is an inadvertent FFM created by an overloaded transformer.

The transformer could be the one contained inside the DC/AC inverter you mentioned or another transformer that we do not see. (e.g. the "spool transformer').
A regulating circuit in an ordinary DC/AC inverter will respond with an increased current draw at its input to a falling input voltage. Possibly overloading and saturating its internal transformer.  I have no supporting evidence that it is the inverter's transformer that makes that sound.

Another interesting question is what electronic phenomena are capable of making a sound at all? 
Electricity generally is silent. So are transistors, diodes, thyristors, capacitors, resistors and integrated circuits.  High voltage can ionize air and produce hissing sound. Rapid ionization will produce a cracking sound of a spark. Magnetostriction will produce sound in transformers' cores.  Ampere forces will produce sound too, if wires conducting high current are allowed to vibrate.  Motors can make acoustic noise the same way as transformers do in addition to windage and bearing noises. Relays can be noisy, too.

That's about it, and this would tend to point to some kind of a strong alternating current in a transformer, as the source of the noise at 24m30s.

« Last Edit: January 06, 2013, 01:22:39 AM by verpies »

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« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2013, 04:52:00 AM »
Those Black Boxes both have heatsink fins on them.  So they would have to have something like Thyristors in them or the like.

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« Reply #102 on: January 08, 2013, 11:52:24 AM »
Those Black Boxes both have heatsink fins on them.  So they would have to have something like Thyristors in them or the like.
Aren't those mounting flanges?
Thyristors or transistors have more than 2 terminals (wires).

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« Reply #103 on: January 09, 2013, 06:17:26 AM »
I read one comment, thats all I could find on the Black Boxes.  It it said that they are Chokes.  I don't know if it's right but I am reading a lot on the subject and other forms of Chokes and I found some useful info that pertains to our subject..  Will post more when I find what I am lookin fer...  What do you know about Harmonic reactors?? Or SMPS.. The switch mode power supply's..

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« Reply #104 on: January 09, 2013, 01:41:05 PM »
Yes there is a great body of knowledge about SMPS out there. They are well understood and behave conventionally if NMR is disregarded.
The most common misconception about SMPS relates to flyback transformers. Most people drive them wrongly - like regular transformers, without a diode at the secondary, where the current in the primary flows at the same time with the current in the secondary (without an intermediate magnetic storage period). Read more here.

 

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