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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2364733 times)

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3435 on: April 02, 2016, 04:17:29 PM »
The one person I respect in this thread is Mr. Antijon who spoke the truth that the primaries when given in parallel will have an amplifying effect on the output. I was aware of the same having done many experiments.

The only pieces information that is truthful in the Figuera patent description is that variation of magnetic field strength is sufficient and rotation is not needed and the not so clear image of the electromagnets. Rest of the information is misleading. The output voltage of 550 voltage disclosed in 1902 is also correct.

I do not intend to post or reply here. Simple fact is that the output voltage and amperage must be in excess of input voltage and amperage and it is easily achieved by using thin primaries with high resistance and thick secondaries with lot of turns. The output voltage has to be higher than the input voltage.

Even if I slog it out here due to electromagnetic radiation problems this is not going to be a common device. I intend to work on an Earth battery and no longer going to do this. It is very unfortunate but no one wants to live near high electromagnetic radiation fields. The whole device needs to be put inside the Earth for it to be accepted for common usage.

Thanks to all who responded either positively or negatively.

Doug1

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« Reply #3436 on: April 02, 2016, 04:52:00 PM »
Faraday cage? It needs a box anyway might as well be one that does more then just look pretty.

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« Reply #3437 on: April 02, 2016, 09:51:26 PM »

IF there is input power , where is it coming from ?    circa 1902 canary islands . 
has anyone even had a look at Canary islands ?    google it

its doubtful they even had a generator in 1902 .  what fuel would it run on ?

what is the suggested freq out put of CF , 50 , 60 hz ?      to power what ?     
1902 canary islands , no washing machines , no tungsten light bulbs , no fridges .   AC motors ?   

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« Reply #3438 on: April 02, 2016, 10:51:59 PM »
to massive :)
everything very simple :) in these times maybe earlier "all" understood that if they let it loose then there wont be anyone who will be cutting grass for free by their castles :) and they started to teach ALL bullshit till these days :)

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« Reply #3439 on: April 03, 2016, 12:49:59 AM »
This what you can get just by adding a capacitor  to an AC signal. In my case by using 95 uF to feed my coils, two groups of coils, each coil  with 23 mH. Voltage measured in each side of a 0.47 resistor. Just for information

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« Reply #3440 on: April 03, 2016, 01:09:43 AM »
Hi hanon what do you think of the last update of the pjkbook?
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
Look at page 24...

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« Reply #3441 on: April 03, 2016, 01:39:21 AM »
Hi wistiti,
I think it is a good revision because now it collects the polarity in repulsion North-North, and I think this is an essential part of the device.

I miss the 1908 patent text which was already incluided in the previous version. Also I miss a reference to a current regulator composed by resistors, that it is the one explained in the patent claims. Resistor are easier to understand for newcomers than the magnetic reluctance rheostat, which maybe is an optimization but it is more difficult to understand at first sight. For me the essential key is to swing back and forth the two magnetic fields. The method to do it (resistors, rheostat, capacitor, magnetic amplifier,...) is secondary. There are many possible implementation to get the same result.

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« Reply #3442 on: April 03, 2016, 02:05:19 AM »
Hanon I made the circuit you refered to below but did not get the same wave forms on
a scope. I got the DC humps up but not down....Did you have any success with
this circuit?  Did anybody else make the circuit??? any results??

Norman

Hanon said abour march 10 or so...
 Yesterday I was testing the circuit posted by Ignacio on the 26th of february to use half wave in each inducer by rectifying AC with two diodes, post #3185 http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg475611/#msg475611 and frankly the shape of each of the two signals is quite good. Minimun current of 0.2 A and maximum current about 2A with 12 volt AC input. I used a resistor joining both diodes outlet in order to assure a minimun current,as base current, during all time.

I attach the pic with one signal. The other signal you may guess it unphased 180°. I post to show it because it is an easy way to implement the input signals. Maybe other people could also use it. Really simple.

Still testing this new driving circuit. So far no important results to share. Output was small but a very good AC shape at 50 Hz.

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« Reply #3443 on: April 03, 2016, 03:35:33 AM »
Hi wistiti,
I think it is a good revision because now it collects the polarity in repulsion North-North, and I think this is an essential part of the device.

I miss the 1908 patent text which was already incluided in the previous version. Also I miss a reference to a current regulator composed by resistors, that it is the one explained in the patent claims. Resistor are easier to understand for newcomers than the magnetic reluctance rheostat, which maybe is an optimization but it is more difficult to understand at first sight. For me the essential key is to swing back and forth the two magnetic fields. The method to do it (resistors, rheostat, capacitor, magnetic amplifier,...) is secondary. There are many possible implementation to get the same result.

Thank you for the reply!
Yep again the same concept "bucking feild" as Chris Emjunky try to tell to everyone...
Thank again! You do a great job!

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« Reply #3444 on: April 03, 2016, 05:07:28 AM »
Hi hanon what do you think of the last update of the pjkbook?
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
Look at page 24...

I wonder if it is better to have a core for each coil with a small gap betwin the coil or one unique core for the set of 3 coils...???  Have you a input on this?

marathonman

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« Reply #3445 on: April 03, 2016, 12:33:34 PM »
I'm in the midst of checking that theory. according to Doug the heat issue is the reason the cores were separated so the primaries are not effected from the secondary.
i posted a pic of my cores with bobbins but have to wait till payday to finish my winder tension tree. all parts bought from Lows or home depot.
i will post pics when its done and of the cores when they are wound.

when i test the one core theory and i have heat issues i can always cut the core.

Massive;

Canary islands in 1902-08 that would be DC only, AC was not introduced to Canary islands  till later after Figuera's time.

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« Reply #3446 on: April 03, 2016, 02:07:39 PM »
There was also the Spanish American war going on at the time. So when was the war of 1914 anyway?lol You wouldnt believe how many people get stumped by that question.
  Marathonman

  Man is standing in a field hunting with a rifle. He slings it over his shoulder backwards to shoot behind him, He is using wad cutters so to compensate for shooting backwards he loads a shell that has the bullet inserted into the shell backwards. Which way is he shooting? Is the bullet going backwards?
 

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« Reply #3447 on: April 03, 2016, 02:26:12 PM »
  Doug i don't hunt and couldn't even tell you what a wad cutter is.
the name wad cutter sounds like a brand of condoms. ha ha ha, yah i know i'm throwed to the curb.

I'm assuming your referring to my avenue i chose with the cores.

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« Reply #3448 on: April 03, 2016, 02:37:53 PM »
I must clarify my last post: I showed two unphased AC signals, but I am not using AC in my tests. It was just to show that there are different methods to unphase a signal from the other. It was just an example. Figuera used a always positive signal and this is what I am using. His patent is based on moving the field no matter how, so the signals must not get reversed at anytime.

Regards

Doug1

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« Reply #3449 on: April 03, 2016, 03:16:01 PM »
Marathonman

  Back emf for the sake of simplicity follows rules which are conditional and might not always act the same way under all conditions depending on what those conditions are.
  The difference between forward and reverse and the reason for one or the other can be altered by changing the conditions. A wad cutter is a flat faced slug that has no front or back they are the same only the motion has relevance.