Antijon..Please .. No apologies are needed. I'm sorry if I had spoken harshly..Let me explain the problem..later..

Marathonman..You are correct that the magnetic field strength would have been very high and iron would have been heated enormously. You are quite correct on that. But you see the device used iron rods. Lots of them and we have hammered them to be in place. This kind of core has lot of air gaps. So air flows through the heated iron from the environment to cool it. So yes iron is heated enormously. We have first tried to use step down transformer and high current and lower number of turns and both the wire and the iron became so hot we moved to minimize the input but keep the magnetic field strength high. And we compressed and decompressed or increased and decreased  the magnetic field strength in the central core which is smaller in length and diameter and so the central core had magnetic saturation and was screaming. The heat was an issue. But we could not get funds to tackle the heat and other issues. The core size has to be high here as we produce more output to avoid the heating problem precisely.

Antijon.. The problem is this..

Let me make some theoretical statements and you will all say yes and so let me myself say yes..

1. We all inhale and exhale air  -- yes

2. Without this air we cannot survive -- yes

3. We do not see the air for air is not in the visible spectrum -- Yes..

4. Bacteria and virus are living organisms present in air but so tiny we cannot see them -- yes

5. Bacteria and virus can move through the invisible air and can infect us --yes.

6. We have cell phones and Internet and we can communicate like this.. Yes

7. A child inside the womb of the mother is a living human awaiting entry to Earth --Yes..

Now if you tell the child inside the womb of the mother all that is stated as yes in points 1 to 6, the child will not agree for it is limited by its surroundings. The vision and the knowledge is limited. It will say don't cheat me what I know is the reality. No fault with that. 

Similarly if we limit ourselves to what has been stated in old patents and do not go beyond them we will also say the same results. Where is the need to limit ourselves? What prevents us from doing beyond what is stated in old patents?.

As I understand from one Senior person, there is very little literature on Multifilar coils. I can tell you that if you use 12 filar to 14 coil on a primary the coil would draw at 220 volts and 50 Hz not more than 0.5 amps or it would not draw more than 110 watts. The magnetic field strength on the other hand would be very intense for we have 12 parallel rotating currents over the core and this creates a very strong magnetic field.

If I undrestand correctly in transformers you are not supposed to have air gaps and magnetic field strength should be as low as possible to prevent eddy currents.

I have seen a strange thing in the experiments.

I built a solenoid as a step up transformer. 12 layers of 4 sq mm wire. On that we wound the primary and the primary was quadfilar if I remember correctly. The input was 220 volts and 15 amps and output was 300 volts and 10 amps. The output was given to a load of 17x200 watts lamps and lamps were bright but the meters indicated that the output was only 3000 watts. Input was 3300 watts and so COP was 0.91 or so. I think you can easily simulate this to verify that what I'm saying is correct. Because the number of turns of wire are high and the amperage was high the magnetic field strength of the core of the solenoid was high and it could be felt up to 4 feet away and could be very strongly experienced at up to 1 feet away.

Can you agree with the above results?.

The strange thing is that as the voltage in the secondary is increased eddy currents disappear. When we test the rods with the tester there is no current when voltage in the secondary goes to 300 and above volts. Possibly because the rods get very hot a lot of air pass through the core and this carries away the ions that cause the eddy currents. I do not know but I can tell you that when the voltage of the secondary in such a single solenoid is increased the eddy currents are gone.

Now in this device itself if we make some modifications and use thick wires like ones capable of carrying 100 amps for the same input what will happen? I do not know..We can conclude from earlier experiments done by others that the results cannot be more than 100 % of the input. I would agree with that. I think you would also agree..

I think you all also would agree with the strong magnetic field that is felt at a distance from the core.

This is what you would not agree..

This simple solenoid can be easily modified to produce far more than the input.

Let me proceed to explain How.

You place in the center of the core two thick copper bars. Insulate them from the iron core. Let them not touch each other as well. Let the copper bars run to one feet extra on both sides.

You please place two thick copper cones and weld it to the copper bars so that the tip of the cone is at the extreme outer side and the magnetic waves that are coming out of the solenoid are captured by the cone and concentrated at the tip on both sides. Connect the high voltage secondary to the cone and take the power output from the tip of the cone which is a very thick copper bar..It can be cone shaped, pyramid shaped, or shaped differently but in essence the magnetic field strength must be concentrated in the cone.

The copper cone would work like a Homopolar generator and would have great amperage. The energy for the copper comes from the wasted magntic field. Voltage is given by the thick wires.This will not consume more from the primary if you use sufficient number of multifilar coils.

You would agree that the copper cone would produce very high amperage as long as it is not connected to the secondary wire and would argue or feel that once it is connected to the wire since output = Input we would have to draw more input. Not necessary.

If the thick wires capable of having high amperage are used then this system can be tested immediately.  We experimented with only one copper at one end and the heat was excessive and current was very high and so we did not connect the wire and the copper cone. But I can tell you that the copper cone has separate high amperage which does not require any additional input from the primary. It gets its power by concentrating the wasted magnetic field. We may have to provide two cones one over the other with holes so that the magnetic field can move out but only after energising the cone..Even if we make only a step down transformer and connect all of them in series the voltage and amperage would go up for a small input. You see it looks like the Ed Gray device..You also see it looks like the Homopolar generator of Tesla in 1889.

We have experimented but the problem was one of heat and core size. If we are going to make a lot of output the core size has to be increased to prevent heating and melting. Core cannot be a core like in transformers but must be a leaky core that should allow the cooling media to pass through. By increasing the Frequency of the input the input amperage can be brought down and we will need to use high voltage and spark plug to create that drop in the input or we need to use multifilar coils to create the drop in the input.

I would request you in all my humility to please go beyond what is stated in books and patents. Experiment, observe and learn and apply.


There is no need to limit ourselves to old data. In the example I'm giving you would say yes for the copper cone producing high amperage  without drawing any input from the primary and secondary can be separate. But you would not agree that if the secondary and cone are connected primary would not draw more.

You need to experiment for this with multifilar coils and realize that as the number of wires go up the input is limited in AC.Wire cannot draw current.

In pulsed DC to the best of my knowledge there is no impedance to the current whether you use a single helical coil or multifilar coil and so we need to reduce the input voltage and give higher amperage. Pulsed DC here is AC rectified by diode bridge rectifier.

I have not experimented with the rapid switching on and off method of DareDiamond and so I cannot say any thing about it.

In the Ramaswami device you have forgotten that high voltage is fed to two large Earth batteries and they supply higher output as long as the electrode is not corroded. Higher the voltage faster is the electrochemical reaction in the earth batteries.

I'm not inclined to do further experiments due to many reasons.  But I do hope that the above examples would enable you to become creative and not limit yourself to old data.

Hello to every member of this thread and forum in whole!

Firstly, being for more than a year in the OU research field I have nothing to present yet. For now I'm just a reader who makes his own conclusions based on other OU researchers' experience.

I've already read a lot of great works of Hendershot, Hubbard, Smith, Mark and others. But Clemente Figuera just got 100% of my attention.
All 196 pages of this thread are in my head now.

And although I'm pretty sure that almost all of the OU devices share the same idea (magnetic interactions with ether etc.) Figuera's device is what I need to do first to prove at least to myself that all the teachings of standard physics are directed to move people away from the thought that the energy must be free and accessible everywhere to everyone in any quantities.

From my part I promise to share any valuable results I achieve to the community for free. As a great inventor Tesla did.
Thank you for all your thoughts and experiments, it is realy a big help for those who can read and analyze sometimes an enormously valuable information.

Happy New Year! And may your ideas come true in this piece of art - Figuera's infinite energy machine.
I'm sure, we will solve his puzzle.

From Russia with love 

P.S.
Sorry for some grammar mistakes, English is not my mother language.

I will not contradict anyone at this time but what i will say is you can't have a north and a south near each other at any time or it will be one big magnet. it will as one can say magnetically short circuit it self and leave the secondary core high and dry with zilch out put.

telemad;
 you are off to a good start by reading all post and all literature you have mentioned.  you already have an upper hand as opposed to bone heads that start posting with no clue what is going on. i commend you and would like to welcome you to the forum. we as people need to stick together as we all know our Governments suck and are corrupt to the bone.
when i was in the navy all the Russian woman would complain that their guys would drink to much vodka so my advice would be give her the meat then drink the vodka. ha, ha, ha ! 
хорошего дня khoroshego dnya
May Figuera shine on all of us.

Ramaswami, actually, you may have something. After more thinking, a multifilar primary may increase current on the secondary. About your setup with the copper, it's interesting, but why wouldn't you close the core to increase induction on the secondary coil?

Doug, it's a process. haha Personally, I haven't built a generator, but I can say that the more you learn the better your chances are. I advise everyone to start at the beginning. Learn the laws, and learn how to apply them. https://youtu.be/qWu82nJS42I This is a link to Brightstorm physics on youtube. If you don't know Faraday's Law or anything about induction, watch their videos. And I'm not saying that to you personally, Doug, always sounded like you knew this stuff. I think the concept of Figuera's device is simple. The EMF is based on the input current (B Field), the core area and number of turns, and the rate of change of B through the core. In an AC system, the rate of change is related to the voltage, higher voltage= faster change in B field. In Figuera's, the rate of change is equal to the voltage, but doubled when the two waves crossover (doesn't reach zero point like AC). I'm only speculating, but the EMF should be double, compared to a standard pulsing arrangement.

But that's not the only way to create EMF. A standard generator has a constant B field (exciter), but changes the area per rate of change. A transformer has a constant area, constant rate, but changes the B field. So if we change either the area, or the frequency of a transformer, we can generate more EMF= more than 1COP. We can't change the frequency, but we can change the area. But that's a different idea entirely.

Welcome Telemad. Look forward to seeing your ideas come to fruition.

Hanon, the thing that bothers me about that description is that all of the secondary coils are wired in series or parallel. If the coils were powered sequentially, some secondaries would be powered, and some not, meaning that some would be powered by the others, losing power to the outside load.

*also, if anyone wants a copy of magnetic circuit laws, such as AT, B field, etc. it's the attached pdf. Don't remember where I found it, but it comes in handy.

As I said with resistor you can make it work but very little overunity can be obtained.The setup is actually very simple and good explained by Figuera and you have all keys except maybe one, the problem is each of you are fixed on one aspect of device.
The most important aspect is not Lenz law or resistor or commutator but something else.Try to guess what.
hanon,glad you found the other way without resistors, please answer why Figuera insisted on make before break.

Forest,
That was to avoid sparks, have a quasi-smooth signal, and avoid collapsing the magnetic field to have always charged the electromagnets. Or not? What else is important? Let's see your view...

Here Marathonman the image of their inputs and outputs.

Marathonman,

even if you have money for any of such program, I suppose you won't find it useful in case of searching for any OU effects that are banned in all kinds of information sources or simulators for many-many years by you know whom 
These programs are for mainstream (scholar) physical effects only, IMHO.