Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE (Read 2364769 times)

marathonman · « **Reply #2745 on:** November 09, 2015, 08:58:47 PM »

Back on Track------
operation of Figueras Device in a nut shell.
Hanon: if you haven't realized we are talking about the same thing as in your video.

hanon · « **Reply #2746 on:** November 10, 2015, 12:00:10 AM »

But if you want to use one induced coil at right angles respect to the inducers (which is a possibility that can work) then you have to use TWO induced coils, one at each side of the central axis, or just use one coil but uncentered. At least see 40 sec. from this video with this other set-up: https://youtu.be/ZPbWoaPUE5s?t=11m57s

With you just one centered induced coil induction in each side (left side and right side) will cancel out....because...it has axial symmetry.

Anyway it is a possibility to test, but I prefer to follow the recommendations included in Buforn´s last patent in 1914.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCClYZp9Yls#t=3m00s

Doug1 · « **Reply #2747 on:** November 10, 2015, 12:46:46 PM »

Hannon they are not powered up at the same time equally.

marathonman · « **Reply #2748 on:** November 10, 2015, 04:57:27 PM »

DUH !....... that sure was a hard one.

Hanon; in your Video you take your clear piece of plastic and shift it side to side. what do you think is going on to get that shift from side to side ? YES! you got it, one side is being progressively powered up while the other side is progressively powered down and vise verse.
the pic below is the exactly the same as your video. as one side peaks then is progressively powered down it reverses direction and supports the other side being progressively powered up........SIDE to SIDE SHIFT.
it doesn't matter if its North or South it will do the same thing.

marathonman · « **Reply #2749 on:** November 11, 2015, 12:13:41 AM »

Doug1; I finally found the circuit i have been looking for in my mag amp control circuit. i had it on my computer when i got bombed from the Internet...... lost everything. well this is the exact circuit i will be using for controlling Figueras Device.
i just hope it reacts quick enough.

antijon · « **Reply #2750 on:** November 11, 2015, 03:49:05 PM »

Well, sorry for losing my cool. Stress lately makes me want to be one of those deaf-mutes... but I'd prefer to keep playing the catcher in the rye. Anyway, happy Veteran's Day marathonman. If you're from the US.

But I'm going to ask you to clarify, is your intention to align the induced coil perpendicular to the inducers, like a ring dynamo? I know it has been, but you post photos of lenz law showing the poles facing. These are two different things. Maybe you can just let us know.

But if that's what you're intending, I've tried many different ways, even yesterday, but I cannot get any current out when the coils are arranged perpendicularly. No response at all.

Magnaprop, I just realized his two secondaries are arranged parallel to each other, physically I mean. This makes a difference in the operation, but I should be able to test his design later. Smart guy, right? I like his other videos about inertia.

Doug1 · « **Reply #2751 on:** November 12, 2015, 02:47:16 PM »

I think Marathonman will in the end realize that constructing the Y coil at 90 degrees to the induced will prove too difficult and not necessary.
The cores will take care of the angle of the magnetic field without having to do that. If the wire wound around a core impresses the field wrapped around the wire to the core sending the lines of force out of the ends of core and into another then direction of the lines of force into the second core will impress the reverse effect into the secondary wire as induction in the second coil.
Turning the second coil 90 degrees introduces a lot more complications.Firstly the field being impressed into the second coil will be stronger nearest to the pole face and weaker with square of the distance from the pole face leaving the side of the coil furthest from the pole face which active in a weak field compared to the side close to the pole face. Thereby reducing the amount of induction in the second coil not increasing it. The position above and below will see nothing so induction will only effect two quarter quadrants of each full turn of the coil. That alone cuts the inductive potential in half right off the git go. Second if the field envelops two sides of the coil at the same time going over the coils from top and bottom it will just cancel itself out because the field is pushing on both halves of each turn in the same direction the way most basic models show the wire being in the neutral position where no lines are being cut at all as a wire loop is turned inside a magnet field.
It's not the end of the world. Remember there are 999 light bulbs that don't work some where in a dark room. If not for them you would still be burning candles or in the dark yourself.

MagnaProp · « **Reply #2752 on:** November 13, 2015, 10:47:54 PM »

Quote from: antijon on November 11, 2015, 03:49:05 PM

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Magnaprop, I just realized his two secondaries are arranged parallel to each other, physically I mean. This makes a difference in the operation, but I should be able to test his design later. Smart guy, right? I like his other videos about inertia.

Let us know how your experiment goes. Very interested in what he is doing and how it might relate to Figuera.

EMJunkie · « **Reply #2753 on:** November 14, 2015, 03:39:13 AM »

@Marathonman,

Regarding the Images you have shown about the 1904 Patent: "The Dynamo", I have been able to obtain a copy.

The URL you can download it from is here: The Dynamo 1904 Edition - This file is 187Mb in size, please right click and click Save As or you will be here all day waiting for the pages to show.

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

marathonman · « **Reply #2754 on:** November 20, 2015, 04:57:37 PM »

Thank you Chris Sykes, i admire your work and appreciate your in put. I am curious as to why you wanted me to download this as i have an earlier one that i have been studying that is the information that was available to Figueras. i have downloaded it and have been reading it but i must admit it is the same info that is in the earlier version.
is their any specific section that you think i need to study.

??... if there is please let me know
i have also been studying all other patents and have come to the conclusion that all are right about the coil orientation. i have also possibly uncovered another clue to his device and it have to do with Hanon's delay effect.
in most of the patents the cores that were drawn were very long in proportion to the coils and with this set up a delay effect would take place.
also i would like to bring up that the secondary cut away in the first pic. notice that the primary is cut away also. could this be that the primary core was hollow to allow for an adjustment of some kind as in to get the exact delay effect Hanon was referring. if you look at the other patents you will see that all of them have a long secondary core except two that have no core drawn.
first pic is my point
other pics are of long cores.

the last line on the right is suppose to be 'induced' not enduced and Sorry for the stupid large pic !

Ps. my materials i ordered have still not come in and i am really P O ed. so i haven't been able to do any test.

marathonman · « **Reply #2755 on:** November 21, 2015, 11:32:55 AM »

just something to think about.

marathonman · « **Reply #2756 on:** November 22, 2015, 03:52:17 PM »

more good info to think about

marathonman · « **Reply #2757 on:** November 22, 2015, 04:03:40 PM »

How can i take a pic down after posting it?

the huge pic was a Paint fail and i would like to fix it.

gyulasun · « **Reply #2758 on:** November 22, 2015, 04:48:13 PM »

Quote from: marathonman on November 22, 2015, 04:03:40 PM

How can i take a pic down after posting it?
the huge pic was a Paint fail and i would like to fix it.

You click on the Modify icon on the very right hand side corner of your post which includes the huge attachment.
Then you are in the Edit mode again and check the delete file or something like that (cannot recall exactly) at the uploded window area you picture filename is.
A correct picture file size to upload is max 860-900 pixel horizontally, this would not cause any widening of the thread size horizontally.

Gyula

marathonman · « **Reply #2759 on:** November 22, 2015, 05:25:44 PM »

gyulasun; Thank you worked just fine.

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