"I actually got the idea from you and Alvaro. You have referred to the current being undulated DC. Does not iron subjected to DC become a permanent magnet. Let us say a DC electromagnet only but the one in the center will become a permanent magnet right and it is placed in a focused area."

  It would if there was only one inducer. Draw out the motion of the flux. While I personally do not prefer this method it is easy enough to explain. From a single set NyS the direction of the poles being the same all facing one direction on N and S. The Y in the middle will see the south of one one inducer and the north of the other. Causing the Y to see flux running in opposite directions from the respective inducers. The Y has in effect been given the same as would a normal generator,what would appear to the Y a rotating field. The residual left in the declining inducer prevents the field in the inclining inducer from combining if you keep in mind that a declining electro magnet is giving back current and the field as a result is naturally reversed by itself as it recedes. AKA back emf. Cant juice the goose with out it. Otherwise it just becomes one big messed up magnet. The hour glass shape of the core which you sort of were able to see from a time ago in one of the drawings. It has more iron on the extremities of the core like a flared out end. Do you remember? There is a counter intuitive proportionality to control windings core size in the place of the control winding in a mag amp that causes it's own effect. That is to say if a mag amp used three legs and they were all the same size it would not work. So what is important is why they do work and how can it be exploited for the project at hand. Its kind of a strange why people use EL cores with a fat center leg when thats specifically built for a purpose that does not function the opposite way in the case of a meg type arrangement.    You kind of answered your own question about why you have not been able or not will be able to use ac the way you want to to power the inducers. If you were to build a internal combustion engine the same way it would tear itself apart.

  The flux is running through the center of the coils and around the outside back to the other end of the magnet.Split into two with Y in the middle when N or S is fully powered it has to include Y and exclude the opposite inducer in order to cause Y to have induced ac. The one being excluded at any given time is sending current back into the resister array in the same direction as the source is supplying the inclining inducer. Back emf is violent ,has a high spike and needs to be made tame and slowed down to act more like the source. Don't know what type of electronics can do all this, don't care burning plastic smells and is hard to make yourself. Always get stuck trying to fit a square peg into a round hole making more complex combinations to counter short falls of components. Just not worth the space in my head to bother with. I leave that to others who are less sensitive to the stench of smoking ic's.

Thin is harder to work with and produces a limitation in how much current it can handle. Thicker will not object to less power but thinner will object to too much.

....... Has anyone noticed the difference in the patent drawings between the first Buforn patent and the last? What is going on with the last one. On the "y" core there are lines that run length wise. In that drawing the magnetic field generated by the N and S are in parallel with the lines drawn on "y". If these lines represent the coil then there is no magnetic induction as the lines of force don't cut the coil.
 

Hi Core,


I tend to think that the lines drawn along the Y coil are just a detailed sketch to show the iron core (as a longitudinal bar) + the Y coil used as feedback to power the machine itself + Y coil used for external uses


Note also that Figuera just called reactangles N ans S. He never said to be north - south polarity, just used N and S as a way to call each series of electromagnets. I do not know if you have seen my video about my pole orientation interpretation. If not, you can find it in my youtube chanel (user : hanon1492). Please search it to see what I mean. If you can not fin it please advice me. Right now I do not want to put the link again because I see a high degree of mess between both Figuera´s patents and I do not want to increase that mess. It has many in common with this other : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCClYZp9Yls#t=3m00s


I think that patents from 1902 and 1908 are different and, concept must not be mixed up:


1902: one signal , intermittent or alternating, polarity north-south according to the patent text.


1908: two signals in opposition (then the conmutator is required). For me the polarity is not clearly stated in the patent claims. I have the oppinion that Figuera moved the field to emulate the induction by motion (flux cutting the wires) as I stated in my video


Regards

Hannon

 I thought I remembered one of the patents read a second winding could be placed over the Y to run the motor and the inducers to make it self exited indefinitely. He seems to have had a number of versions or added to the patents to make them different as he went along. Could be a lot of reasons for that which are nether here or there but in any case when I tried the thin lineaments they were too sparky from particulates that came off the brush I used from the starter motors.The particles eventually made the brush ride on the dust and that caused scorching of the copper strap. the bars can handle more downward pressure. They are not really bars they are 3mm by 5 mm thick after sanding down true and flat Im sure it is less then 5 mm.   

All,
Rams,
Thanks for the translation.

Hanon and All others...
the new perspective puts a light on the subject really well...

All the Best

PS time to test it

Hannon

 I thought I remembered one of the patents read a second winding could be placed over the Y to run the motor and the inducers to make it self exited indefinitely. .......

Yes that is written in the 1914 patent towards the end. He states that an additional winding can be added to the induced winding and from here industrial currents can be utilized.

-Core

core




Like I said Buforn tried to preserve knowledge for future. Once upon a time I also started to translate Buforn patents but I don't know Spanish at all so it was very hard task, and that time nobody was interested in helping me.

@ all
I´m in the way to translate the 1914 patent as accurately as I can.
The translations made with web programs are very inappropriate,  because Buforn was not known to be an engineer nor a technician, therefore his old fashioned lexicon and language style, is quite prone to misinterpretation.

will post it here when finished.
cheers
Alvaro

Because you guys, took this effort I'm oblige to post my hard work . Please remember that my English is very limited and I know in Spanish only the famous Asta la vista baby    but if you have enough time even with google translator and a dictionary you can make something....


Alvaro, please compare this to your translation - it may be very helpful. Buforn seems to believe in the same theory as I do, that no single generator on Earth is producing electricity - they just condense it from external field - Earth field. That way physic laws are not broken and energy can really be free for everybody.