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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11892857 times)

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18705 on: December 16, 2017, 11:42:43 PM »
    AG:
   Other than Nelson's devices, what other devices made by guys from our forum have self run?
  Perhaps you can post a link to just one, of the "lots"   No mechanical devices nor motors/generators, please.
  Come on, surprise me. Perhaps I'll learn something new.

   peper10: 
   Hostile???  I don't need to be insulting, nor calling you hostile, childish, etz... If those are your responses, no need to respond.
   Have a nice day.
                            Chiau to you, dear friend.
 
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peper10

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18706 on: December 17, 2017, 12:00:17 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on December 16, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
  Other than Nelson's devices, what other devices made by guys from our forum have self run?
  Perhaps you can post a link to just one, of the "lots"   No mechanical devices nor motors/generators, please.
  Come on, surprise me. Perhaps I'll learn something new.

   peper10: 
   Hostile???  I don't need to be insulting, nor calling you hostile, childish, etz... If those are your responses, no need to respond.
   Chiau to you as well. Have a nice day.


I was posting here thinking I can help the group but instead I will help myself and keep my discoveries....  For a guy to tell me WHERE to post my discovery, you dont even know what lays in Nelson circuit..  If you would have known the function, you would have a self runner by now.... 
LOL     Happy day to you and your loved ones...
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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18707 on: December 17, 2017, 12:48:11 AM »
    Well, you're right about that, I don't know how Nelson's set ups work. No one does. He made sure of that. So, I won't go there.
   He has posted a diagram, which Hoppy says to have replicated, but he did not obtain any positive results therefrom.

   It sounds like what you need the group for is to answer your questions. That's ok, but you've shown no discoveries, nor have any to show.
   I call your bluff.
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peper10

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18708 on: December 17, 2017, 01:14:21 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on December 17, 2017, 12:48:11 AM
    Well, you're right about that, I don't know how Nelson's set ups work. No one does. He made sure of that. So, I won't go there.
   He has posted a diagram, which Hoppy says to have replicated, but he did not obtain any positive results therefrom.

   It sounds like what you need the group for is to answer your questions. That's ok, but you've shown no discoveries, nor have any to show.
   I call your bluff.



So!!  Who tell you he is not running a JT? ???  Read the schematics and you will see only a primary toroid doing 2 functions at the output..
Sometimes put your pride to rest have benefits....  Have a WONDERFUL DAY!!
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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18709 on: December 17, 2017, 01:31:08 AM »
  Nelson has stated that it is NOT a Joule Thief. Nor an Exciter circuit. If you look for his comments on this thread, you will find what he personally said about it. But, it is a different type of self running circuit. Not all oscillators circuits are joule thiefs, or exciters.
  At this point I don't care, if it is, or it not, just a joule thief.  I have my own "discoveries" to think about, and work on.
  I was trying to answer your questions, but, as you don't believe me, that's ok. I'm not trying to convince you. Heaven forbid.
  It would help if you put your insults to rest, as well. Or have you run out of them, yet.

  Ciao, that's how the Italians spell it.
 
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soliman

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18710 on: December 17, 2017, 05:07:30 AM »
Quote from: plaxius on December 14, 2017, 05:32:12 PM
Dear friends, I attach a push-pull program for arduino from 9 khz to 99 khz with individual pulse width control. Work on the integration of an oscillator from 800 kHz to 4 MHz with synchronization and nanodelay. I will upload the result as soon as I achieve it.


https://youtu.be/TyKd9r_Xj4Q


could you
make another independent exit for the kacher?
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stivep

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18711 on: December 17, 2017, 05:39:13 AM »
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AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18712 on: December 17, 2017, 08:13:47 AM »
Quote from: soliman on December 17, 2017, 05:07:30 AM

could you
make another independent exit for the kacher?
whats the clock speed of your cpu ? your katcher freq would have to be very high in order to get a narrow pulse to drive the catcher you would do better to drive the katcher with a logic pulse and be able to control its pulse width with a phase lock circuit. Perhaps a Microchip with a high speed clock would be better with a very fast clock would do it 20 or 30 mhx ;)  and write the program in machine code, the other problem is the cpu isn't going to like the inductive disruption pulse the circuit will generate. Fun ain it ;)
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AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18713 on: December 17, 2017, 08:25:11 AM »
Quote from: NickZ on December 16, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
    AG:
   Other than Nelson's devices, what other devices made by guys from our forum have self run?
  Perhaps you can post a link to just one, of the "lots"   No mechanical devices nor motors/generators, please.
  Come on, surprise me. Perhaps I'll learn something new.

   peper10: 
   Hostile???  I don't need to be insulting, nor calling you hostile, childish, etz... If those are your responses, no need to respond.
   Have a nice day.
                            Chiau to you, dear friend.
the Don Smith circuit, the TK device does, next your going to ask me how the answer, to coin a phrase is it's blowing in the wind of the last 4 or 5 back pages. Read the PDF watch some of the quoted video's
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AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18714 on: December 17, 2017, 08:34:43 AM »
Quote from: NickZ on December 17, 2017, 01:31:08 AM
  Nelson has stated that it is NOT a Joule Thief. Nor an Exciter circuit. If you look for his comments on this thread, you will find what he personally said about it. But, it is a different type of self running circuit. Not all oscillators circuits are joule thiefs, or exciters.
  At this point I don't care, if it is, or it not, just a joule thief.  I have my own "discoveries" to think about, and work on.
  I was trying to answer your questions, but, as you don't believe me, that's ok. I'm not trying to convince you. Heaven forbid.
  It would help if you put your insults to rest, as well. Or have you run out of them, yet.

  Ciao, that's how the Italians spell it.
 
What is an exciter ? go back in time to the 60s look in any AR mag and tell me what an exciter was then go on what is it ??? and what would it be called to day ???

it's a 3 letter word  8) clue

next question what 2 letter word do you think Nelson might be using if not a JT or Exciter ?
and then how do we turn it into one ? 2 letters ?
and how would it work ? the Swiss were good at this (all in good time )  ;D
and how did they keep it going ? oscillating perhaps ?

Now do it electronically , your starter for 10 Bamber  ;D 8) :o

Allen
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Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18715 on: December 17, 2017, 04:21:11 PM »
Quote from: peper10 on December 17, 2017, 12:00:17 AM

I was posting here thinking I can help the group but instead I will help myself and keep my discoveries....  For a guy to tell me WHERE to post my discovery, you dont even know what lays in Nelson circuit..  If you would have known the function, you would have a self runner by now.... 
LOL     Happy day to you and your loved ones...

Hi Peper,

We are all friends in the asylum where nothing written is taken too seriously. OK, we have a loud banter from time to time and the occasional funny turn and head banging sessions but this is just to relieve a bit of frustration from chasing that OU phantom that plagues our minds.

Anyway, I would really appreciate your thoughts on the modus-operandi of the Nelson device but please be patient with us, as we may ask you some technical questions about anything you are willing to share with us.
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TinselKoala

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18716 on: December 17, 2017, 07:33:29 PM »
The Kacher creates a _common-mode_ high voltage, and the other lower frequency high power oscillator (mazilli, zvs, 494 etc) creates the high current. The Kacher's common-mode HV creates the condition to allow the high current to be transferred between the input and output stages. Combined capacitive coupling for the common-mode HV and inductive coupling for the higher current at lower frequency, which can then be rectified on the output stage. The convoluted Kapanadze construction can be simplified greatly once these principles are grasped.

By the way, it is a myth that Nelson has any kind of self-running overunity device. He does not.
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18717 on: December 17, 2017, 10:13:00 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on December 17, 2017, 04:21:11 PM
Hi Peper,

We are all friends in the asylum where nothing written is taken too seriously. OK, we have a loud banter from time to time and the occasional funny turn and head banging sessions but this is just to relieve a bit of frustration from chasing that OU phantom that plagues our minds.

Anyway, I would really appreciate your thoughts on the modus-operandi of the Nelson device but please be patient with us, as we may ask you some technical questions about anything you are willing to share with us.


Hi Hoppy!!  What I really think Nelson has foul the people AFTER his findings is : he is using a beefed up joule theif and the output is manipulated to get 2 outputs...Take good care WHY the caps and what function they have on the output???   Is that reminds you the secondary coil of Don Smith??  The SPIKES are CONTROLLED and managed to do first a transformation function by tapping only one LEG of the output and the second leg is the ground.. The next leg of the output is rectified trough the positive like a Bedini type for the low output...  Look at Don Smith secondary cap function and you will find the same contrast with Nelson schematics..    And dont worry for the LOUD BANTER...  I have a tuffer skin then this...     LOL 
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Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18718 on: December 17, 2017, 10:42:02 PM »
Quote from: peper10 on December 17, 2017, 10:13:00 PM

Hi Hoppy!!  What I really think Nelson has foul the people AFTER his findings is : he is using a beefed up joule theif and the output is manipulated to get 2 outputs...Take good care WHY the caps and what function they have on the output???   Is that reminds you the secondary coil of Don Smith??  The SPIKES are CONTROLLED and managed to do first a transformation function by tapping only one LEG of the output and the second leg is the ground.. The next leg of the output is rectified trough the positive like a Bedini type for the low output...  Look at Don Smith secondary cap function and you will find the same contrast with Nelson schematics..    And dont worry for the LOUD BANTER...  I have a tuffer skin then this...     LOL

Thanks for that peper. However, I dont understand why the two outputs are in some way special. Please give more detail.
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Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18719 on: December 17, 2017, 10:44:29 PM »
Hi peper10. There is a very big difference between speculating and being able to actually
demonstrate something that is really out of the ordinary (i.e., something which really appears to possibly be OU).
I asked you directly previously if you have built a circuit which you think shows anything unusual
going on, and you ignored my question. Everyone has ideas and opinions, but it is quite another
thing to put those ideas to the test and be able to demonstrate something that really appears to
possibly be COP > 1.

You have been jumping all over people here complaining that they won't blindly accept that you
know how to achieve OU based on one of Nelson's circuit designs, but it appears that you have not
even made a test setup yet to put your ideas to the actual test. ;) These forums often get people who
claim to have it all figured out, but the reality is the vast majority of them can't demonstrate a circuit or
device or anything else which in any way backs up what they are claiming. :)

Peper10, frankly, your random capitalization of words in several of your comments here, your claims of
being persecuted here, and your insistence that you have it all figured out when in reality it appears you
haven't built any test setups which can demonstrate anything out of the ordinary does not bode well.   :o

If you have a test setup  that you think demonstrates something out of the ordinary in regards to OU
then show it, otherwise all reasonable people here will know you are just speculating without actually
having put anything to the test. Please stop all the bizarre and unfounded accusations and either
demonstrate a circuit that shows something unusual going on, or admit you you are just talking
though your hat. Do I expect that to actually happen? It seems highly unlikely given how you have been
acting here, but I think it never hurts to give the benefit of the doubt and to ask nicely ... ;D


BTW Nick, a 'joule thief' and 'SEC exciter' are variations of blocking oscillators, and the circuit diagram
of Nelson's posted here is definitely a type of blocking oscillator, very similar to 'joule thief' and
'SEC exciter' circuits. How power may be taken off such a circuit or how a load is connected doesn't change
the fact that it is a blocking oscillator circuit at its core.

All the best...
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