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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 6453623 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18765 on: December 20, 2017, 03:49:24 PM »
    T-1000:
    Tesla was not ever showing how a Tesla Coil or any other device can self run. Nor was he working with components, like we are.    So... even to observe some OU effects, even without a looping the output to the input, what should be the KEY details?
   No spark gap/top load design, please, as that does not help us here. Did it help you to obtain the sought after OU results?


   We really need specific details, not just generalizations, for us to be able to see the extra gain that we are looking for.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18766 on: December 20, 2017, 04:01:00 PM »
    T-1000:
   We are not trying to do what Tesla was doing. He was not ever showing how a Tesla Coil or any other device can self run.
   Nor was he working with components, like we are. So... even to observe OU, without a loop, what should be the key details?
   No spark gap/top load design, please, as that does not help us here. Nor did it help you to obtain the sought after results.
Or did it?
The Tesla coil in that mode is what creates required pre-lightning conditions. It is the heart of device no matter how you speculate about it.
The rest is done with polarizing particles and creating flow of charges from ambient into circuit with disruptive dischares.
In regards to spark gap between secondary and top load it can be replaced with something else - like choke in akula/Ruslan case. As long you understand required function which is same as nanosecond pulse from other approaches.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18767 on: December 20, 2017, 04:14:01 PM »
     T-1000:
    By polarizing what "particles". The Aether is not made up of any "particles", as we know them.
So, how do we polarize the Aether?  Just HOW should those "particles" become polarized? By what exact means.
    Tesla coils just throw the HV into the air, and need an input source to do so. And have not been shown to self run.
    Did the spark gap system work to observe any extra energy coming out of the system, for you???
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18768 on: December 20, 2017, 04:20:10 PM »
    By polarizing what "particles". The Aether is not made up of any "particles", as we know them.
No aether was ment - it is ions/electrons or protons/electrons pairs from gases in atmosphere + ground...

https://www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wposion.html

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18769 on: December 21, 2017, 03:58:57 PM »
      T-1000:
     So now, it's harvesting ions from gas particles in the air?
   That's not what I was expecting, as the energy source used by free energy devices.
   That's not what Tesla would have suggested, either.
   I guess that this source won't work without air then? Like in space... Or not?  Who knows...
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18770 on: December 21, 2017, 06:35:11 PM »
I think the key theory is ELECTROSTATIC..  There is electrostatic is space ..  The cluster of stars have occasionally Thunder due to electrostatic discharge.. Electrostatic have the same properties of magnetisim and electromagnetisim..  To get it , it require so little effort and you can get in the high voltage so quick.. It`s a conjuncture of both world and the less studied manifestation ....  An ION GENERATOR is a device that require a bit of energy from the source and give high voltage due to it`s ability to play with one side of the 2 parts needed to complete the VOLTAGE POTENTIAL.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18771 on: December 21, 2017, 06:55:11 PM »
      T-1000:
     So now, it's harvesting ions from gas particles in the air?
   That's not what I was expecting, as the energy source used by free energy devices.
   That's not what Tesla would have suggested, either.
   I guess that this source won't work without air then? Like in space... Or not?  Who knows...
 

Hi Nick. Keep in mind that is just speculation. Unless someone can demonstrate a test setup that
shows electrons or positive ions or similar being harvested from ionization producing a definite OU effect,
then it is just talk. :)  In the OU experimentation area, the only thing that can actually be trusted is
actual demonstrable bench test results. All else is just talk. :)

I have never come across a statement that came directly from Tesla and which is reasonably verifiable in which Tesla
talked about being able to achieve over unity, or in which Tesla talked about deriving usable energy from the aether.
That is not to say such things are not possible or doable, but just that Tesla never seems to have talked about such things,
that I have come across so far anyway.

All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18772 on: December 21, 2017, 07:15:32 PM »
Hi Nickz, and All

Ok lecture time. pls take time to digest.

Aether (dark matter) is matter which fills space / cosmos and our very surroundings which also
is still being used to form/create and shape our universe using photons with specific freq ranges and laws.
will not elaborate to much on this.
As it is just only a part of what we are looking for. 

What we are looking for and need to comprehend is;
We need to focus on Atoms of Charges and to see them separated.
We have to view the earth's Ionosphere and ground-earth as huge capacitor with split charges.
The  Positron (Ion) (+) / Electrons (-).
Since forever we have seen when lighting strikes happen which manifest this.   
We have the Protons which have the electron(-) and we have the anti-proton which has the positron (+).
Earth is (-) ionosphere is (+).

Hydrogen (+) carries positive charges, The sun's Fusion surface is filled with it
and spreading just like any other sun out there which lets us know, space is bombarded with charges.
Earth is simply harvesting it and collected thru the Ionosphere.
Celestial bodies like Earth will then carry negative charges then to make
necessary conditions to electrify most around.
Every planet has it's potential ionosphere if they have.

Now take a look at the Grenade and the Antenna,
Grenade is connected to earth ground (-) charges,
Antenna calling/harvesting/Manifesting the (+) charges (only!)
They are separated in charges.

Tesla coil secondary, when in operation looks like it's shooting lightning (plasma (RF) for solid states)
from it and want's to reach out.
Indeed it has a part of it which reaches out (Corona) but In fact it is calling charges (Ions) from the surroundings.
trying to connect.
It is pulling energy towards it from backround ...
this is caused by spark gap by generating sudden magnetic field and collapses after.
The collapsing of this field is attracting these (+) charges to the secondary and secondary is connected to (-)
which then makes contact and you have lightning! 

The beautiful purple Corona which is present on top of Tesla secondaries
when in operation of a spark gap, clearly shows it's vacuuming or trying to harvest the opposite charges (+).

Now to put cherry on top,
With all the electronics for tesla coil or any HV pulse device in right condition
,it's to speed up the process of gathering the charges (+) and quantity and acceleration to multiply amount.

Akula's device with the Inductor (bifilar on the grenade) is to multiply that which  has been harvested
and then overclocked, the speed of process. making a super field.
Series resonance over that part of the grenade could also be seen as a accelerator of the charges (particles).
 Example, the spin , just like a delco generator does, needs to reach certain rpm to reach condition.

Balance needs to be searched for,
 if you see what you are feeding tesla coil input
and getting effect is small in manifestation, what do you thing you have to do ? ;) think.

The only reason why these devices self run,
is the collected charges coming from backround ( Positrons/ions) in great quantity ( greater than) ;)
which is a external power source then the mains created on earth. (battery /power supply)
in order to make something self run, it needs two separate sources of energy
and in balance for it to be autonomous operation. ;)

Edit** Tesla coil is the Heart of these devices

This is happening with these Akula/Ruslan/Dniester/Kapanadze Devices.


   ~Cheerz

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18773 on: December 21, 2017, 07:52:22 PM »
I have never come across a statement that came directly from Tesla and which is reasonably verifiable in which Tesla
talked about being able to achieve over unity

Hi Void :)
I was always wondering what exactly Tesla meant by his following statement. We know that Tesla is probably behind Ruslan's device which also selfruns. is it safe to assume that by  delivering energy at short intervals can help the machine to sustain its own operation?

Tesla Quote
"..The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers.  I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower.  In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18774 on: December 21, 2017, 08:00:36 PM »
Hi Geof long to see u ;)
Hope everything goes well.


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« Reply #18775 on: December 21, 2017, 08:16:38 PM »
Hi Jeg, Yes it has ;),
hope everything is also fine with you too.

All,
one more thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wKZ9ehCciU

one of my latest recordings shows what i just described.
starting from 11:50  minutes
I have shown to disconnect the antenna from tesla secondary and manifestation stops at the antenna area.
then connect back to see it manifest again and create the condition.
energy is created when the two charges are met.

Cheerz~

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18776 on: December 21, 2017, 09:02:17 PM »
Hi Void :)
I was always wondering what exactly Tesla meant by his following statement. We know that Tesla is probably behind Ruslan's device which also selfruns. is it safe to assume that by  delivering energy at short intervals can help the machine to sustain its own operation?

Tesla Quote
"..The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers.  I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower.  In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.


Hi Jeg. I believe what Tesla is referring to there is instantaneous power. When you use pulses, you can get
short duration pulses of instantaneous power at the output that are a lot higher than the average input power,
but the average output power will of course be lower. Charge a capacitor over a time interval to a
very high voltage and discharge the capacitor in a very short duration pulse and the instantaneous output
power can be very high, but the average output power will typically be a lot lower than that.

All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #18777 on: December 21, 2017, 09:26:06 PM »
The  Positron (Ion) (+) / Electrons (-).

Hi GeoFusion. A positron is not an ion. Here is a definition of a positron from the net:
"The positron or antielectron is the antiparticle or the antimatter counterpart of the electron.
The positron has an electric charge of +1 e, a spin of 1/2 (same as electron), and has the same mass as an electron."

All the best...


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« Reply #18778 on: December 22, 2017, 03:48:09 PM »
   I think that we are all confused about the source of energy in our surrounding ambient, or in what Tesla calls the "cosmic soup".
   You won't find Tesla confirming the bit about "electrons, and positrons". Which we are still being taught in schools today.
   And that is also one of the reasons why we don't have free energy. The real source of this energy source, is not being recognized, as yet, as we have no way to really measure it, or prove it's existence.  So, for our current limited science, it does not exist.
  Yet, that is not what Tesla thought,  and tested for, to prove the Aether source theory for himself.
  Aether is not electrons and positrons, (as from the gases in the sky), which need matter to exist. As the Aether is the true source of matter. And not the other way around.

  Anyways, what I had asked T-1000, was about the specific details to look for and tune to, to be able to find the interaction between HV and the LV, which can lead to OU. The little secrets that we are NOT being told about.
  Russians have figured this out. But, as I don't understand Russian, in all it's details. I had asked someone who does.
  I was not expecting to find the secret, in electrons and positrons, from gases in the air.  As to me, that is not correct.

       Void: Read Tesla's reply, again:

   "The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt".

   To me that says, that there is MORE OUT THAN IN. And not LESS, as you mentioned in your last post.
   And he also does explain where the "extra energy" is coming from, in that case. And, energy from matter, is not part of the equation.
 

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« Reply #18779 on: December 22, 2017, 05:12:58 PM »
oid: Read Tesla's reply, again:

   "The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt".

 To me that says, that there is MORE OUT THAN IN. And not LESS, as you mentioned in your last post.
 And he also does explain where the "extra energy" is coming from, in that case. And, energy from matter, is not part of the equation.


Hi Nick. I already commented on that. Read my reply to Jeg again. (just kidding) ;)
I expressed my understanding of what Tesla appears to have been referring to there (instantaneous power).
I could be wrong, but that is what Tesla appears to be referring to.

For example, in that same document, there is also this:
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Counsel
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?
Tesla
Yes.  It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer.  You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness.  The distance through which the mass moves is small—the pressure immense.
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So, Tesla compares it to a pile driver, with the accumulation of energy through a long distance being
analogous to charging up a capacitor over a period time and then releasing it in a sudden impulse where
a very high instantaneous power can be achieved. There is of course a big difference between instantaneous
power and average power. This is what Tesla appears to be describing, as best as I can tell.

Also, as we have discussed in the past, I think if you look into it, you will find that
many things that have been claimed about Tesla can't actually be traced back to Tesla's
actual writings. For example Peter Lindemann claimed a number of things about Tesla
but did not provide references to where Tesla actually said some of those things that Lindemann
was claiming. If someone can point me to actual statements (original documents/transcriptions) from Tesla
himself where Tesla talks about deriving useful energy from the aether or similar I would be very interested to see it.

Also, as I have mentioned here previously, people have very much corrupted Tesla's actual concept of 'radiant energy'
and make all sorts of claims about it that Tesla does not appear to ever actually said. I have read Tesla's patent where Tesla
describes quite clearly what he meant by 'radiant energy', and it is quite different than what many people
claim on the net. :) I have posted details about this in this thread in the past. Anyway, I know from experience that pointing
out things like that makes little difference. The unsupported claims will continue to be repeated over and over.

This all doesn't matter much anyway I think for the purposes of this thread. What I think is more important 
is what people like  Kapanadze and Akula were really doing in their circuits. As of yet, I have not seen
anyone who can convincingly demonstrate the main principle behind these type of devices with an actual test
setup, so any offered explanations are of course still just speculation at this point.

All the best...

 

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