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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5295 on: September 25, 2014, 10:55:13 AM »
He say, that his tsla working on about 1,5-1,6 megaherc. First wounded secondary with ticker wire, then with tiner to ajust. And how we see in that divice no ferite road betwen kacher secondary and antena.

Thanks!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5296 on: September 25, 2014, 10:59:32 AM »
He say, that his tsla working on about 1,5-1,6 megaherc. First wounded secondary with ticker wire, then with tiner to ajust. And how we see in that divice no ferite road betwen kacher secondary and antena.

hi MenofFather,

There is no thin copper wire on kacher which i assume is the receiver section.
On Ruslan device the  transmitter section which i mentioned just earlier in the few hours ago is just using thin magnet wire 18AWG...20AWG.There is no thick wire underneath.

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« Reply #5297 on: September 25, 2014, 11:03:17 AM »
Yes it is a really interesting video! Eventually I hope that our Russian friends will describe about the most important points.

Menof and Mag why you think that there is no diode at Tesla coil? Even Ruslan drawn a diode in his explanation diagram.
Secondly, I know that katcher many turns coil, is not connected to ground but at transistor's base. Do I look a wrong circuit??

Well done to all of you guys... :)

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« Reply #5298 on: September 25, 2014, 12:03:37 PM »
Yes it is a really interesting video! Eventually I hope that our Russian friends will describe about the most important points.

Menof and Mag why you think that there is no diode at Tesla coil? Even Ruslan drawn a diode in his explanation diagram.
Secondly, I know that katcher many turns coil, is not connected to ground but at transistor's base. Do I look a wrong circuit??

Well done to all of you guys... :)

hi Jeg and everyone(whom is not a skeptic),

Let me explain the easy part first base on my current and latest findings which "some of us can digest to understand".

I have reattached pdf which is based on Akula translated voice related to Tesla coil tuning to simplify searching for answer.

This is the extract from the 2nd half of the translation in the pdf-
17:02 The frequency of the sine wave, we have found here with me, in the region of 1.7-1.8 MHz.
What poluchaetsya? 17:11 We poluchaetsya front working here is a 17:14. 17:17 This is
it. 17:20 If it is still negative, and divide the land ... 17:26 We are interested in only the
upper half-time.


Base on Ruslan video which was released only yesterday i extract a screen shot from the downloaded youtube video."At this point please download video to save time" ;)
Ruslan drew a sinewave which is likely representing the 17...32khz and at the top peak of sinewave he drew a nanosecond pulse (This might be around 10% duty for the 1.7 or 1.8mhz done by circuit).

Answer-

Comparing what Akula said and Ruslan drawing-
Now if you compared the upper half of sinewave base on the last sentence mentioned by Akula which i have pasted above and compared with Ruslan explanation via drawing which i have attached.
Both Akula and Ruslan explanation tallies which is good news.
 
We now know this nanosecond pulse will need to be to be produced/triggered at the peak of the sine-wave with the aid of the circuit which we will need to go into deeper at later stage but not now else things will be very confusing to understand.


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Logically i believe that 9volts battery would have enough voltage & current  to likely power up the nanosecond generator circuit section using 5volts regulator for the signal generator which first starts sending pulse to Earth.
Then the rest of circuit would be powered up by the amplified current that is returning back to the device from Earth before even turning on switch leading to the bulbs.

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Base on  Akula video title -#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMdy4l-ZqeU&list=UU2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w

I have extract and attached the photo of Akuladevice and labelled mystery coil.Both Ruslan recent device and Akula device do have this coil.

I need someone to advise which is the mystery coil shown circuit diagram drawing which i am lost.
I have attached multi coil circuit diagram.Please advise.I believe this is the last outstanding coil to sort out before we can move on to the circuit.

Good news is the multi layered coil top most section which is 12,12 turns tallies with Akula device as attached since i have counted the turns.Strange things it seems 12 turns coil was wound on pvc pipe instead of overlapping onto the existing coil.
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Now back to the topic jeg,

I would suggest to ignore the diode which was likely used as an example.Remember the trigger which only appear at the top half of sinewave only this is the way it is being done.

If you think there is a diode it's likely need to be a high voltage diode which which can handle 30KV maybe.
Don't forget about the current pulse which was sent to Earth with a imaginary diode in place how do you this pulse can be a bi-directional to return back to the device to self-sustain itself.
It is easy to go astray if your mind is thinking more complicated than the device itself.

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5299 on: September 25, 2014, 01:22:20 PM »


 
We now know this nanosecond pulse will need to be to be produced/triggered at the peak of the sine-wave


I need someone to advise which is the mystery coil

Strange things it seems 12 turns coil was wound on pvc pipe instead of overlapping onto the existing coil.

I would suggest to ignore the diode which was likely used as an example.Remember the trigger which only appear at the top half of sinewave only this is the way it is being done.


Don't forget about the current pulse which was sent to Earth with a imaginary diode in place how do you this pulse can be a bi-directional to return back to the device to self-sustain itself.

It is easy to go astray if your mind is thinking more complicated than the device itself.

Dear Mag thanks for getting into trouble to explain some things. What follows is just my opinion. Don't take it as one way road..

First of all, nanosecond pulse generator by itself states one way pulses neg or pos doesn't matter.

The mystery coil perhaps is an output for 12 or 24V. Or even more possible for bringing the bifi coil to the correct resonant frequency by inductance adjusting...

The 12 turns coil portion don't look like it is separate from the other coil portions. But even if it is
there is not a problem. You see, this bifi has some unique characteristics. It has different portions with different inductances. The thin side has the lowest inductance and the upper thick section the maximum of its inductance. Notice that katcher's antenna hits at the low inductance portion which is the output of the coil. The higher inductance portion is for giving some resistance to the low frequency sinewave while it enters the coil, so to build it self inside the coil. In other words offers some magnetic resistance for the low frequency to be loaded. At the output portion we hit it with the high frequency pulses and so the low frequency while getting out of the coil 'sees' different impedance (lower than the one that expects). Imagine the output portion of the coil to operate as a high frequency switch, forcing the low frequency to be grounded some million times per cycle. Needs to be of a very low inductance... If you have this in mind you can even make two coils in series, one with high and the other with low inductance. Use your fantasy

About bi directional pulses and self sustaining operation... i dont quite understand this, as there is no connection between each other. In a tesla coil voltage goes up and current goes down. A reverse diode connected in series with this coil doesn't brake this flow. It just keeps voltage and current at the same signs during each cycle.

At the end, this device is simple only if you know what is the principal theory behind. Without this, things are Quite Complicated!

Hi GF... you put your fire and left us! But as you see it is still burning!!! ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5300 on: September 25, 2014, 01:48:03 PM »
I need someone to advise which is the mystery coil shown circuit diagram drawing which i am lost.
I have attached multi coil circuit diagram.Please advise.I believe this is the last outstanding coil to sort out before we can move on to the circuit.



Magpwr,

for the mystery coil, see one of your own older post:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg417057/#msg417057

In there you can see its L3 = 50 turns (2x 25).

Eyeballing your picture above, i estimate indeed 25 turns (x2).

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5301 on: September 25, 2014, 03:14:04 PM »

Magpwr,

for the mystery coil, see one of your own older post:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg417057/#msg417057

In there you can see its L3 = 50 turns (2x 25).

Eyeballing your picture above, i estimate indeed 25 turns (x2).

Regards Itsu

hi itsu,

Thanks for pointing me to that post.
The mystery coil is indeed 25 turns.I i have done the count using the attachment.
Even more interesting finding the top is 25 turns the bottom give or take 28 or 29 turns.It's easy to see the bottom do have little more windings.

Multi coil setup initially is 12,12,24,24,48,48

What i can observe for the 12 turns layer is the bottom of the 12 layers is additional 1 or 2 layers.
(Reason-If you have ever done winding on pvc pipe especially if there is 2 layers the bottom need to have little more turns to ensure the top winding stay in position at the side)

So the Multi coil setup would be 12(top),14...15(bottom) 24(top),26...27(bottom)  ,  48(top),50...51(bottom)

Please download the attached Ruslan-Katuxa_2014-Coil Spec.

For everyone-There should be no doubt related to the winding spec at the receiver portion anymore.


To wrapped it up the electrical cable used is likely 2.5mm sq.Getting a 100meter bundle would be the best choice. :)
The PVC pipe diameter would be around 5.2cm to get 33meters.But with additional layer at the bottom this may increase to 35meters of electrical cable cable give or take.This is without taking into account
additional length of wire for connection.This would be close to 37meter give or take.

The pending item is the tesla/transmitter coil in which the winding or more proper inductance is unknown at this moment.

But this can be figured out via the Akula Tesla tuning video by looking out for the first peak waveform at 4.8Mhz by adding or removing windings.
18awg...20awg insulated magnet wire would be better choice rather than going for electrical wire which need more bigger pvc and hence more space is needed.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5302 on: September 25, 2014, 03:42:09 PM »
   No ferrite rod, but,  low output in that device (not 2000 watts).
  edit:
  The above diagram of Ruslan's device was not made by Ruslan, and is not representative of how the Ruslan device is wound.
  Ruslan is not using the 48,48,24,24,12,12 turns that are shown in that diagram. As there is NO 12, 12 turns on top of the 24,24 turns. There is NO mistery coil, either, it's part of the 24,24 turns coil, not covered by electrical tape.
  Also there is not 2 times 25 turns for the L3 coil, there is 12,12 turns on it, or so.  All this and more make things very confusing.

  I think that it's best to follow what is being shown in the video of the Ruslan or Akula's device, instead of what is in the diagrams.

  You can try use the Kacher with, or without the diode. The diode will convert the kacher output to DC (half wave), instead of AC. It seams as that a DC output source is what is needed from the kacher crt. But, the Pulse Modulator may already have converted the kacher's output to DC, even without the additional diode. Or not?
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5303 on: September 25, 2014, 03:49:07 PM »
Dear Mag thanks for getting into trouble to explain some things. What follows is just my opinion. Don't take it as one way road..

First of all, nanosecond pulse generator by itself states one way pulses neg or pos doesn't matter.

The mystery coil perhaps is an output for 12 or 24V. Or even more possible for bringing the bifi coil to the correct resonant frequency by inductance adjusting...

The 12 turns coil portion don't look like it is separate from the other coil portions. But even if it is
there is not a problem. You see, this bifi has some unique characteristics. It has different portions with different inductances. The thin side has the lowest inductance and the upper thick section the maximum of its inductance. Notice that katcher's antenna hits at the low inductance portion which is the output of the coil. The higher inductance portion is for giving some resistance to the low frequency sinewave while it enters the coil, so to build it self inside the coil. In other words offers some magnetic resistance for the low frequency to be loaded. At the output portion we hit it with the high frequency pulses and so the low frequency while getting out of the coil 'sees' different impedance (lower than the one that expects). Imagine the output portion of the coil to operate as a high frequency switch, forcing the low frequency to be grounded some million times per cycle. Needs to be of a very low inductance... If you have this in mind you can even make two coils in series, one with high and the other with low inductance. Use your fantasy

About bi directional pulses and self sustaining operation... i dont quite understand this, as there is no connection between each other. In a tesla coil voltage goes up and current goes down. A reverse diode connected in series with this coil doesn't brake this flow. It just keeps voltage and current at the same signs during each cycle.

At the end, this device is simple only if you know what is the principal theory behind. Without this, things are Quite Complicated!

Hi GF... you put your fire and left us! But as you see it is still burning!!! ;)

hi Jeg,

It's hard for me to pick all sentence from the translated Akula Tesla coil tuning in pdf and present it.

There is a part mentioned about return signal from Earth back to device maybe form like double helix.

If you take a look at the Rulsan video where he use Amp meter on the earth connection cable to device.There is current movement but clamp meter isn't fast enough to capture since it's high frequency.



19:16 And to create one self
recording. In this mode, we will see that the installation just works on itself. Furthermore,
any interference with it completely suppresses it. Now that we all collectively 19:32
works, we have a current movement in which we can not intermeddle, our task force to
work 19:38 this one drive, 19:40 so to speak, of electrons from the environment. That is
everything 19:45 but this space to get to work.


"any interference with it completely suppresses it."
Maybe this explains why 2 large outer layer coil is used on device in order to prevent interference


Please i use only pure instinct for my reverse engineering especially if certain things is unknown and provided if i am interested to know."It's hard for me to explain this part"  :D :D :D
"Just kidding maybe"

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5304 on: September 25, 2014, 04:03:53 PM »
Magpwr, 

the "balun with ferrite rod" (L5 / 10uH) in your last drawing is in the latest Ruslan video a simple 2 turn air coil.
Adjust by bending.

Regards Itsu

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« Reply #5305 on: September 25, 2014, 04:05:18 PM »
   No ferrite rod, but,  low output in that device (not 2000 watts).

hi Nickz,

If device is a self-runner it won't matter if it's 750watt ,1000watt,1500watt especially if you can get it working for the first time. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5306 on: September 25, 2014, 04:09:52 PM »
Magpwr, 

the "balun with ferrite rod" (L5 / 10uH) in your last drawing is in the latest Ruslan video a simple 2 turn air coil.
Adjust by bending.

Regards Itsu

hi itsu,


The interesting thing i noticed is there is few variation for Ruslan video.
There is one with a straight cable as well linking transmitter and receiver.



But i have noticed the 2 large outer coil is like cw,ccw formation for Ruslan device if it's a straight cable but i have not take a hard look into Akula video which is using ferrite and take a close look at the 2 large outer coil to compare and confirm.


The 2 turns looks like the latest version so we will need to stick with that.The slightly older one was a straight wire.

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« Reply #5307 on: September 25, 2014, 04:35:38 PM »
hi MenofFather,

There is no thin copper wire on kacher which i assume is the receiver section.
On Ruslan device the  transmitter section which i mentioned just earlier in the few hours ago is just using thin magnet wire 18AWG...20AWG.There is no thick wire underneath.
I wrote what Ruslan say. I beleave, that he say true. Here not wery tick wire on secondary kacher coil, but is first ticker wire, then tiner.

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« Reply #5308 on: September 25, 2014, 04:42:08 PM »
Yes it is a really interesting video! Eventually I hope that our Russian friends will describe about the most important points.

Menof and Mag why you think that there is no diode at Tesla coil? Even Ruslan drawn a diode in his explanation diagram.
Secondly, I know that katcher many turns coil, is not connected to ground but at transistor's base. Do I look a wrong circuit??

Well done to all of you guys... :)
About diode Ruslan explaing, how he think is in Akula divice, he bealive, that in Akula divice can be diode, who conected to ground. But I not think, that in akula divice is that diode.
"
Menof and Mag why you think that there is no diode at Tesla coil?"
Because in Akula schematic no diode. Ruslan no bealive, seems, that akula give true schematic.
" Secondly, I know that katcher many turns coil, is not connected to ground but at transistor's base."
Yes, and betwen bace and minus is 460 om resitor and minus is grounded. Trought this resistor electromagnetic field go  to ground.

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« Reply #5309 on: September 25, 2014, 04:54:51 PM »
hi Jeg and everyone(whom is not a skeptic),

Let me explain the easy part first base on my current and latest findings which "some of us can digest to understand".

I have reattached pdf which is based on Akula translated voice related to Tesla coil tuning to simplify searching for answer.

This is the extract from the 2nd half of the translation in the pdf-
17:02 The frequency of the sine wave, we have found here with me, in the region of 1.7-1.8 MHz.
What poluchaetsya? 17:11 We poluchaetsya front working here is a 17:14. 17:17 This is
it. 17:20 If it is still negative, and divide the land ... 17:26 We are interested in only the
upper half-time.


Base on Ruslan video which was released only yesterday i extract a screen shot from the downloaded youtube video."At this point please download video to save time" ;)
Ruslan drew a sinewave which is likely representing the 17...32khz and at the top peak of sinewave he drew a nanosecond pulse (This might be around 10% duty for the 1.7 or 1.8mhz done by circuit).

Answer-

Comparing what Akula said and Ruslan drawing-
Now if you compared the upper half of sinewave base on the last sentence mentioned by Akula which i have pasted above and compared with Ruslan explanation via drawing which i have attached.
Both Akula and Ruslan explanation tallies which is good news.
 
We now know this nanosecond pulse will need to be to be produced/triggered at the peak of the sine-wave with the aid of the circuit which we will need to go into deeper at later stage but not now else things will be very confusing to understand.


-------------
Logically i believe that 9volts battery would have enough voltage & current  to likely power up the nanosecond generator circuit section using 5volts regulator for the signal generator which first starts sending pulse to Earth.
Then the rest of circuit would be powered up by the amplified current that is returning back to the device from Earth before even turning on switch leading to the bulbs.

-----------------------------------
Base on  Akula video title -#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMdy4l-ZqeU&list=UU2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w

I have extract and attached the photo of Akuladevice and labelled mystery coil.Both Ruslan recent device and Akula device do have this coil.

I need someone to advise which is the mystery coil shown circuit diagram drawing which i am lost.
I have attached multi coil circuit diagram.Please advise.I believe this is the last outstanding coil to sort out before we can move on to the circuit.

Good news is the multi layered coil top most section which is 12,12 turns tallies with Akula device as attached since i have counted the turns.Strange things it seems 12 turns coil was wound on pvc pipe instead of overlapping onto the existing coil.
------------------
Now back to the topic jeg,

I would suggest to ignore the diode which was likely used as an example.Remember the trigger which only appear at the top half of sinewave only this is the way it is being done.

If you think there is a diode it's likely need to be a high voltage diode which which can handle 30KV maybe.
Don't forget about the current pulse which was sent to Earth with a imaginary diode in place how do you this pulse can be a bi-directional to return back to the device to self-sustain itself.
It is easy to go astray if your mind is thinking more complicated than the device itself.
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/dlattach/attach/142798/image//
Unknow mystery coil is resonant coil, it resonate in series resonance with capasitor C on frenquency 17-40 kiloherc.