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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8688334 times)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1695 on: May 28, 2013, 10:49:33 PM »
   T-1000:
   You are mentioning (above) that 3.7Kv are needed? So, what is the current readings needed, as well? 
   What are these figures based on, are they proven data by experimentation on self running devices, or just general information.
If you make Tesla coil the voltage needed to help cosmic rays to split particles into electron and positron is 3.7kV+
You may find this information in Donald L Smith videos.
No current needed as it is BEMF style very sharp pulses on "hot" Tesla coil end.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1696 on: May 28, 2013, 11:42:27 PM »
There is a huge difference between 3.7 kiloVolts (3.7 kV)  and 3.7 kiloElectronVolts (3.7 keV).

If you make Tesla coil and it's only outputting 3.7 kV, you might as well give up, because that's not even enough to supply the _primary_ of a large spark-gap Tesla coil.


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« Reply #1697 on: May 29, 2013, 12:13:03 AM »
  Ok, at least I know where the information is coming from. Too bad that not one person has been able to apply it, and replicate even one of his devices and make it work, so far. It would make it all a bit more reliable, and trustworthy, if someone had.  The information coming from Romanov is also a bit fishy. He may have  efficient circuits, but as he is using over 3 amps to light his single bulb from his power supply, there's no free energy there, either. If the current would drop on his PS like it does on SR193's PS, then that would be different.
  I'm becoming more and more careful and suspicious (like Hoppy) of where the information that we hear is coming from now, and how proven it may be, as opinions abound, and so do some fake or not proven devices. So, one must differentiate opinions and hear say, from reliably shown and proven working devices.

  As most everyone is out for the money, Akula, Kapanadze, Aviso, Romanov, D. Smith, etz...
It's hard to know who or what to trust.  Are there any exceptions?... Like Tesla, maybe?   I hope so...
 
 

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« Reply #1698 on: May 29, 2013, 12:45:23 AM »
   Tinsel:
   I don't know what it would take, but I know that the 1.5kv or so that I'm giving the yoke device is not enough to get even 50 volts out on the 3 turn secondary yoke coil, that goes to the air coils resonator coil.
It may take a lot more than that to make it work.  So, if 3.5 kv isn't enough, how much will it take?
There may also be more to it, as nothing seams to makes much sense to my dull brain, yet.
 
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« Reply #1699 on: May 29, 2013, 02:56:16 AM »
   Tinsel:
   I don't know what it would take, but I know that the 1.5kv or so that I'm giving the yoke device is not enough to get even 50 volts out on the 3 turn secondary yoke coil, that goes to the air coils resonator coil.
It may take a lot more than that to make it work.  So, if 3.5 kv isn't enough, how much will it take?
There may also be more to it, as nothing seams to makes much sense to my dull brain, yet.
 
            NickZ
It depends on what you are trying to achieve. The last self runners had definately less than 3.7kV ranges on choke side. Also when you are dealing with resonances they are already half way to getting overunity effects. The resulting cold electricity is a way to use especially if it is in high voltage enough to keep capacitors charged. Then only conversion to conventional electrons flow is needed like in this approach:

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« Reply #1700 on: May 29, 2013, 03:58:17 AM »
  What I'm trying to achieve, is to replicate the effect shown by Akula, 1000 WATT output to bulbs, using just 12v (and 10 watts?), or so, input source to kick start it up. Maybe much more than just 10 watts is needed, like maybe a 200 to 400 watts shock blast is used, to kick start it.
  As Tiger has seen the device, maybe he knows more about it. Than having no trusted diagram, to go on.

   I suspect that since the Akula's device is getting 220v Dc from the inverter/rectifier, that although I see the brown filter cap on the driver, that will drop that input, it may still be getting something like 50 DC volts to the driver circuit, and who know hows how much is actually getting to the yoke 12 and 12 turn primary coil/3 turn secondary coil.  What would your guess be?   That is, what voltage/current level would you think is needed for the yoke primary/secondary coil, to output to the yoke circuit turning AC capacitor, then to the resonator coil, mounted on top of the big air coil???
  I don't really see any aluminum sheeting inside his air coil, and I suspect that the choke has about 40 turns of insulated wire on it, and possibly a small tuning cap of unknown value on the bottom of the choke coil.  That may be all there is to the choke coil, possibly.  If someone knows more about it, please let us know.  Any additional info is welcome.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1701 on: May 29, 2013, 08:47:06 AM »
  MenofFather:
   I've seen those videos previously. It takes very little energy to partially light one of those red led bulbs. So, little current, that mine will light from just the capacitive link from the AC ground wiring, even with the Ac wall adapter being turned off. This although quite a surprise is still very limited lighting for any useful purpose.
As even the stray capacitive link through the AC house wiring running on the house floor and up through ones body, up on tables, etz... will do the same effect. This is not something that will light your house to any useful degree, nor is it free energy, as turning off the house breakers, will also turn off this effect.
  If the light bulb and circuit were hung on a string from the ceiling, and the rest of the circuit not touching anything, there would be no light coming from the bulb.
  I just wanted to bring this up, as to not have people thinking that it is free energy, when it's not.
 To confirm this effect just turn off the house breakers, as it's due to stray AC running through most everything in ones house.
In this video no graund wires or antens. And it work many hus, about ten hours he say in video, that in morning turn of and work... It not possible run from capasitor!
", as turning off the house breakers, will also turn off this effect." He not say that.
" To confirm this effect just turn off the house breakers, as it's due to stray AC running through most everything in ones house." Is not mine divice. If you want get more energy, need better make divice and bigger.

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« Reply #1702 on: May 29, 2013, 09:00:41 AM »
"what is, what voltage/current level would you think is needed for the yoke primary/secondary coil, to output to the yoke circuit turning AC capacitor, then to the resonator coil, mounted on top of the big air coil???"
I say, in yoke gose from invertor, In yoke primary is 220 volts gets. Red wire in yoke maybe not conected, or not important conections.  On 3 windings in yoke is about 40 volts. Capasitor is about 5 mkF. On primary red air coil voltage can be from 40 volts to about 100 volts and on it sine. In primary youke curent is about 1-3 amps. On 3 turs is about 8-10 amps. Son on red primary on air core is 6-10 amps. Capasitor can increase voltage and decrease amps. Better replicate Dally divece, it not have any big secrets. I can help replicate or divece who show with 3 watts LED lamp. Then you not spend many manny if you can not succes replicate and for you it not works.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1703 on: May 29, 2013, 02:56:09 PM »

I pulsed my two parallelled MOSFETs with a much higher gate frequency (5.6Khz), causing the voltage on the capacitor to rise 5 times higher as in the no pulse situation (222V versus 47V).

I wonder what will happen if i also could pulse the lower half of the sine wave.

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGieOdkZIN4&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1704 on: May 29, 2013, 04:44:00 PM »
thanks itsu. that is an excellent coil shorting demonstration.

i'm seeing the same flattening of the spikes as you are.
the spec's on the mosfet, Vdg, is inline with the voltage flattening.

i think i'm going to introduce a low turn primary and drive this primary to kick the voltage up.

thanks again.

take care.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1705 on: May 29, 2013, 06:10:00 PM »
   MenofFather:
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   In this video no graund wires or antens. And it work many hus, about ten hours he say in video, that in morning turn of and work... It not possible run from capasitor!
", as turning off the house breakers, will also turn off this effect." He not say that.
" To confirm this effect just turn off the house breakers, as it's due to stray AC running through most everything in ones house." Is not mine divice. If you want get more energy, need better make divice and bigger.                                                                                                                                              End quote:

  I have made a similar device, and can tell you that it is running on the house wiring stray AC capacitive link.  If the house breakers are turned off the weak red AC bulb will also be turned off. NO antenna, or ground needed.
  I know that it's not your device, but I'm just saying that it is not a free energy device, as it depends on the grid and house wiring stray capacitance to function. That is what I think, as the red bulb is weak and not anywhere near the normal mains output level.  You can try it yourself and see, it does not need an antenna or ground, but it does need to be where is can pick up the AC grid stray capacitance. It will not work if suspended on a string without touching anything.  That is my opinion, and the best test is turning off the house breakers, to see how the device dies.  IF this is not the case, then there is another cause, but first that is what I've already proven in my devices. The test is very easy to do, and no he is not saying that, nor testing what I've mentioned either. That device is not new, nor did he improve on it, after a couple of years. Or did he? And why not?
If you find out something different, please let us know.

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« Reply #1706 on: May 29, 2013, 06:29:30 PM »
  T-1000:
   I don't understand the logic of showing that last diagram. The Russian (fat guy) in the video is showing a Kacher or Tesla type coils, using wireless electrical energy to light a single bulb a few feet away, not brightly. What is the point, and how does that have anything to do with the self runners that use no input source to run?

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« Reply #1707 on: May 29, 2013, 07:07:13 PM »
  T-1000:
   I don't understand the logic of showing that last diagram. The Russian (fat guy) in the video is showing a Kacher or Tesla type coils, using wireless electrical energy to light a single bulb a few feet away, not brightly. What is the point, and how does that have anything to do with the self runners that use no input source to run?

There is separate test case showing wireless power transfer and it is cold electricity going out of "hot" end of Tesla coil. This relates to BEMF you get in release of switch as well. The circuit diagram shows how it is possible to convert it back to conventional "hot" electricity.
Also when you have high frequency BEMF you cannot take power directly out of circuit. The circuit which Dynatron shown on video is one of approaches how to take BEMF input then condense on series of capacitors then attach 50Hz step down inverter with resonant LC circuit on primary for this frequency so you get strong induction and power transfer out of transformer. This approach can be seen even in http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/dlattach/attach/124146/image// (if you try to replicate remove BEMF shorting diode on primary of top transformer, that was done with intention to fail people who do not know about BEMF conversion) on "choke" which is actually is autotransformer with first half part of it doing same function as I just described.

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« Reply #1708 on: May 29, 2013, 07:18:14 PM »
"what is, what voltage/current level would you think is needed for the yoke primary/secondary coil, to output to the yoke circuit turning AC capacitor, then to the resonator coil, mounted on top of the big air coil???"
I say, in yoke gose from invertor, In yoke primary is 220 volts gets. Red wire in yoke maybe not conected, or not important conections.  On 3 windings in yoke is about 40 volts. Capasitor is about 5 mkF. On primary red air coil voltage can be from 40 volts to about 100 volts and on it sine. In primary youke curent is about 1-3 amps. On 3 turs is about 8-10 amps. Son on red primary on air core is 6-10 amps. Capasitor can increase voltage and decrease amps. Better replicate Dally divece, it not have any big secrets. I can help replicate or divece who show with 3 watts LED lamp. Then you not spend many manny if you can not succes replicate and for you it not works.

  I'm trying to understand what you mentioned in the quote above.
 That the yoke is getting it's 220v power from the inverter (not through the driver circuit?).
And that the 12 and 12 turns coil primary current of 1 to 3 amps, and 220v. Red yoke wire not connected to anything, or is not an important connection. And that the output from the 3 turn coil is about 40 volts, and 8 to 10 amps, going to 5 uF 220v capacitor, then to the red resonator air coil that has about 40 to 100 volts on it, and about 6 to 10 amps. The capacitor can increase the voltage by decreasing the current.  Is this what you mean, so far, or not?  This is the circuit that I am working on now, not other circuits at this time.
  Daly's device was not able to be replicated by Itsu, or any others that I know of.  Maybe it has no secrets, but it was not able to be replicated by any others, yet.

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« Reply #1709 on: May 29, 2013, 07:53:40 PM »

 The circuit which Dynatron shown on video is one of approaches how to take BEMF input then condense on series of capacitors then attach 50Hz step down inverter with resonant LC circuit on primary for this frequency so you get strong induction and power transfer out of transformer. This approach can be seen even in http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/dlattach/attach/124146/image// (if you try to replicate remove BEMF shorting diode on primary of top transformer, that was done with intention to fail people who do not know about BEMF conversion) on "choke" which is actually is autotransformer with first half part of it doing same function as I just described.

Please stop calling it BEMF. The link you give is not a motor circuit! its also not a self-runner. Nick is looking for a self-runner. Do you have a genuine self-running schematic that you are prepared to post? The various Dally circuits posted are also not self-runners.

 

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