Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11887055 times)

nelsonrochaa · « **Reply #9885 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:49:43 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on August 07, 2015, 10:50:07 AM

And me Nick! So we are supposed to accept that the feedback loop almost immediately sustains the device and runs a 60W bulb when the 9V battery is removed - cobblers!! He has an LC oscillator being supplied by a hidden energy source, charging a cap to a high voltage. When the load is applied, we see the bulb dim as the voltage drops to a level that can be maintained by the hidden energy source. Don't waste your time eyeballing this one, its obviously not a self-runner. Nelson does not even claim it is in his posts. We've got to the ridiculous point now, where anybody showing a device lighting a bulb, goes on the self-runners club celebrity list.

Hi hoppy,
dont say nonsense about how you "imagine" that circuit work .

I respect a lot your work and i'm a early subscriber of your channel , but when you told that i charge a cap with in LC oscillator to discharge into bulb or the 220VDC motor ......... so the same thing must be happens when i drive the 24v motor 14A and bulbs of car like i show ?

Hidden Energy source ?
I will ask a question . Can you provide the same result even with the hidden source that you talk ?
If you could maybe you are run strait in good path if not .... what i can say ? seems need to continue you work.

I hear so much talk , and less work . Only theories and theories by the "smartest boys" and next people go follow here like a sheep running in a circles without make nothing , because the laws of conservation are intocable !
Start think in the only way to produce some joules without depleting the source if you want understand the concept .

Yes you have true when you say that i did claim anything.
Why i should do it? I say in the very beginning that is not opensource I do not understand the reactions .
When i work in open source , i never see any donation in my paypal account or donation materials ... Now some people condemn my attitude not to share my work ? People who have a job should not receive salary? This is my job !
The so called incoherence and lack of common sense by people or interest.

I just try help Nick to understand that exist much common ways to reach the same goal about the driver exciter and coils , because
seems (for me ) the the most important point, not only the coils.

But seems i can give a simple opinion without hear some disconsidering words for some fellows .
the self-runners club celebrity list ? You talking about what ? I dont know that exist a celebrity list for the (fakers) like me

Good luck

T-1000 · « **Reply #9886 on:** August 07, 2015, 01:00:23 PM »

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 12:49:43 PM

I hear so much talk , and less work . Only theories and theories by the "smartest boys" and next people go follow here like a sheep running in a circles without make nothing , because the laws of conservation are intocable !
Start think in the only way to produce some joules without depleting the source if you want understand the concept .

There are two sides of the coin as always. People who are trying to make up idea how things may work are usually talking too much, I agree. And the people who are actually building circuits and trying things out are just walking in the dark. Do you realize how many of them tried and failed after spending efforts, time and money? The partial truth is, after that happens no other reaction can be expected than negative. Except from 1 individual from thousands who are stubborn in nature and continue research...
So it is up to you to help them out or just passively watch until someone else will come out and straighten builders research paths. That is something to think about for you.

Cheers!

Thaelin · « **Reply #9887 on:** August 07, 2015, 02:11:11 PM »

Well to never drain the output cap to a level less than .5 of normal. Much easier to boost it back up then. Zenier can do that easy or regulated output. Just mind them spikes.

Old news again

nelsonrochaa · « **Reply #9888 on:** August 07, 2015, 02:12:45 PM »

Quote from: T-1000 on August 07, 2015, 01:00:23 PM

There are two sides of the coin as always. People who are trying to make up idea how things may work are usually talking too much, I agree. And the people who are actually building circuits and trying things out are just walking in the dark. Do you realize how many of them tried and failed after spending efforts, time and money? The partial truth is, after that happens no other reaction can be expected than negative. Except from 1 individual from thousands who are stubborn in nature and continue research...
So it is up to you to help them out or just passively watch until someone else will come out and straighten builders research paths. That is something to think about for you.

Cheers!

Hi T-1000
Responding to your question:
What do you think would happen if i shows up complete plans of this circuit?
It probable that someone try to take advantage of it does not agree?

People that support me and the costs of all equipment and materials used would be empty-handed?
I think they would not like and its not correct to make this to the only persons that believe in my work and ideas .
The story shows that I am right, if not agree read a little about the life Thomas Moray or Nikola Tesla, and look how the finish their last days, but others persons stayed with the advantage of their works .
The human is a being too complex, and thou for more honest you are, in your opinion there is certainly a lot of people just lurking for an opportunity to have an advantage over other people, and you know it's true what I say.
So is only to you think a bit to .

Thanks

Hoppy · « **Reply #9889 on:** August 07, 2015, 02:19:57 PM »

C'mon Nelson, I have that exact same 24V, 14A scooter motor and I doubt that was much more than 12V across that and with no load it was probably drawing around 1 Amp or less. A simple low powered inverter could have driven your mains motor, which was also not loaded. I could build a setup to operate like your demo in my sleep but its pointless wasting time on that.

Your demo was a light hearted ruse. Please don't insult peoples intelligence by continuing to deceive.

magpwr · « **Reply #9890 on:** August 07, 2015, 02:40:36 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on August 07, 2015, 02:19:57 PM

C'mon Nelson, I have that exact same 24V, 14A scooter motor and I doubt that was much more than 12V across that and with no load it was probably drawing around 1 Amp or less. A simple low powered inverter could have driven your mains motor, which was also not loaded. I could build a setup to operate like your demo in my sleep but its pointless wasting time on that.

Your demo was a light hearted ruse. Please don't insult peoples intelligence by continuing to deceive.

Hi Hoppy,

You have been saying the same for Tariel Kapanadze time whom openly mentioned via translation in one of the video where he bluntly mentioned he will take it to the grave
and after that Akula after he came to Germany to sell his lower powered goods to the Chinese.

Although i am no chinese but i do understand chinese base on video previously taken in Germany related to Akula demo."I do understand 5 languages for fun"
Oh boy they were so excited and mentioned in chinese they will not leave until they or he buy something as shown in video taken in Germany.

But i was surprise upon seeing that video of all of the people SOLD to the Chinese.Myself being Asian whom is already into Reverse engineering as hobby within a hobby for now.

I'm only interested in something which i can find no fake and also base on old videos of anyone as a sign of progress to their work.

I do admit it's pointless to profit from 1 device after which it will be common in the "long run".
If you are into electronics and observe nearly all the electronics product around you which slowly improve over time as different manufacture reverse engineer one another.
I am just being honest.

nelsonrochaa · « **Reply #9891 on:** August 07, 2015, 02:44:01 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on August 07, 2015, 02:19:57 PM

C'mon Nelson, I have that exact same 24V, 14A scooter motor and I doubt that was much more than 12V across that and with no load it was probably drawing around 1 Amp or less. A simple low powered inverter could have driven your mains motor, which was also not loaded. I could build a setup to operate like your demo in my sleep but its pointless wasting time on that.

Your demo was a light hearted ruse. Please don't insult peoples intelligence by continuing to deceive.

You doubt !...

but don't have certain , and yes can be a only a simple low inverter , but if i measure the output in this motor and show that it not correspond to what you say what you will say ?
You maybe will say that my meter is broke or with RF that could not measure right values ?
Man, the bulbs of car that i use in the same output are putting out more than 1A and are a resistive load , so if you think that motor run without torque with lower than 1 amp ... ok is just your opinion not correct but ok .
I know very well how people need to find a way to justify what could understand it seems what you do at moment.

I dont insult anyone but seems you have a lack of understanding about some subjects,
sorry for my sincerity but if you could provide something identical even in your sleep , don't loose more time answer me because you are not wake but dreaming.

I have sure you don't know how it works even , you be a smart person and a follow your works by your videos , even when you got closer your are betrayed by your rational and conventional logic. Of course is my opinion , like you have about me .

Good luck

T-1000 · « **Reply #9892 on:** August 07, 2015, 02:56:09 PM »

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 02:12:45 PM

Hi T-1000
Responding to your question:
What do you think would happen if i shows up complete plans of this circuit?
It probable that someone try to take advantage of it does not agree?

It would prove your build is working when someone else would replicate it as first. The second thing is as you chosen money way - how many people in your country or your city would make competition? The short answer would be - most likely none.

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 02:12:45 PM

People that support me and the costs of all equipment and materials used would be empty-handed?

You can still build large scale generators if you got time, trusty investors and money (which you probably have not enough for a factory) and my personal opinion is the people who are investing are on 99% risk to loose money either way. And after the first build given away the specs are no more secret as people can take advantage for sending them somethere else for making lots of copies for their own profit in countries where your patents will be void anyway. That is our civilization habit with stealing ideas.
And the open source way insure the build will reach manufacturing stage and will be improved by different people in future. You can take a look what happened with Linux operating system as example and how it overtook mainfraimes of largest corporations in the world and how it got popular and evolved.

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 02:12:45 PM

I think they would not like and its not correct to make this to the only persons that believe in my work and ideas .
The story shows that I am right, if not agree read a little about the life Thomas Moray or Nikola Tesla, and look how the finish their last days, but others persons stayed with the advantage of their works .

Nicola Tesla made mistake (as we all are prone doing it) - the providing free energy from central point does not go along with investors money where investor expect profit and in his last days it was too late for making little devices for everyone to use when he was suppressed. Also the most his stuff you cannot find in Internet was stolen after his death and gone to military use... Moray and lots of others wanted money and died without it as the inventions was against oil/nuclear monopoly and was made himself single point of failure target which was easy to take out for ones who wanted to silence that. And this silent ongoing war with free energy/medicine which actually cure/non-conventional research is hundreds years old as you may know...

nelsonrochaa · « **Reply #9893 on:** August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM »

Quote from: T-1000 on August 07, 2015, 02:56:09 PM

It would prove your build is working when someone else would replicate it as first. The second thing is as you chosen money way - how many people in your country or your city would make competition? The short answer would be - most likely none.
You can still build large scale generators if you got time, trusty investors and money (which you probably have not enough for a factory) and my personal opinion is the people who are investing are on 99% risk to loose money either way. And after the first build given away the specs are no more secret as people can take advantage for sending them somethere else for making lots of copies for their own profit in countries where your patents will be void anyway. That is our civilization habit with stealing ideas.
And the open source way insure the build will reach manufacturing stage and will be improved by different people in future. You can take a look what happened with Linux operating system as example and how it overtook mainfraimes of largest corporations in the world and how it got popular and evolved.
Nicola Tesla made mistake (as we all are prone doing it) - the providing free energy from central point does not go along with investors money where investor expect profit and in his last days it was too late for making little devices for everyone to use when he was suppressed. Also the most his stuff you cannot find in Internet was stolen after his death and gone to military use... Moray and lots of others wanted money and died without it as the inventions was against oil/nuclear monopoly and was made himself single point of failure target which was easy to take out for ones who wanted to silence that. And this silent ongoing war with free energy/medicine which actually cure/non-conventional research is hundreds years old as you may know...

Hi T-1000,

I know that you try to show the other side , and i understand but is not so linear .
This box circuit that i show is to be a demo to show the technology to a possible investor ,not a working or a final product yet.

About replications to prove the build :

I never tell that circuit is unique , and some trust people are trying replicate the same circuit , maybe you will see in future some video in youtube of other people show similar circuit is only as question of time and what people will do or say ? that i dont share that i think only in money?

About the money and investors and you say that i choose the money way:

Is simple ! Maybe without their help i never reach what i achieve until now . How you or other people will work without the right tools and materials ?
Low forward in work and bunch of doubts! this the reality .

i am a specialist in unix and linux administration systems , and i know all the story of linux even when is not linux and i understand your point of view but its not comparable .

Thomas Moray was literally stolen . The people that seems want help only want take advantage and use their ideas to make some of the most important electronics "best seller" like transistor but the goals don't talk about Moray and is a shame .
And lots of others good people get forget in time without be recognized the value of their work.

I provide since the beginning all my videos in my channel showing the evolution of my work , people can think that is not so much , but is what i can share .
I don't see people ask to Akula or Ruslan about details of their work even call them liars or cheaters .
Like woop said i insult peoples intelligence by continuing to deceive and Ruslan and Akula did the same ? I think not .

I give you a bunch of reasons to make understand my point of view .
So let the topic run on kapanadze or ruslan circuit , i like hear and appreciate the work of others, i learn even with their errors

Thanks

Hoppy · « **Reply #9894 on:** August 07, 2015, 03:57:11 PM »

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

I don't see people ask to Akula or Ruslan about details of their work even call them liars or cheaters .

Nelson,

Take a closer look back at the posts in this thread!

NickZ · « **Reply #9895 on:** August 07, 2015, 04:07:18 PM »

Or, on the other hand... I believe what I see, and not the old naysayers song. Fake, fake, hidden batteries, X-wires...
And I'll continue working regardless. Because, I believe in the process, not the builder. Although everyone else may not believe any of it. Be that way, if it serves you.

I did study most all Nelson's videos, and my questions was HOW was this new driver developed? It not a Farnel.com device, it's not a previous driver that was added onto or improved on. How was it developed? Why does it work?
If the rest of you guys are not interested, that's ok. I am.

There are two systems operating in Nelson's device, and so it looks more complicated than it really is. But, I'm more interested in the 120- 220v output part of it. But, the main question is still, what is special about his driver, that allows it to self run.

Hoppy: you keep insulting and irritating every one that shows a device that self runs, and that you can't figure out, nor will you even try to replicate. Are you making sure that no one else does either? Is that your purpose here???
I hate to tell you, but, YOUR credibility has gone to the wayside.... As has YOUR opinion, which has been up to now, that all self runners are fake!!!
And so, it's looking more and more like you are a paid troll.... Is that what you are? As you have NEVER, EVER, provided any proof of your constant negative comments and remarks Which have been impossible to ignore, as there have been over a hundred stupid ass remarks about your opinion of fakery, on this thread alone.
So, Thanks... from all of us that are working hard to find the answers. While you are working even harder to disrupt this thread.

T-1000 · « **Reply #9896 on:** August 07, 2015, 04:07:43 PM »

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

Hi T-1000,

I know that you try to show the other side , and i understand but is not so linear .
This box circuit that i show is to be a demo to show the technology to a possible investor ,not a working or a final product yet.

People here require method not final product for something to start working with. The disbelief is very strong since there is no actual physics tought in schools for that possibilities

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

About replications to prove the build :

I never tell that circuit is unique , and some trust people are trying replicate the same circuit , maybe you will see in future some video in youtube of other people show similar circuit is only as question of time and what people will do or say ? that i dont share that i think only in money?

About the money and investors and you say that i choose the money way:

Is simple ! Maybe without their help i never reach what i achieve until now . How you or other people will work without the right tools and materials ?
Low forward in work and bunch of doubts! this the reality .

Same situation back in Lithuania with building https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKLdyONPog4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk
Just we chosen open source way and still no successful replications yet due missing fundamental knowledge and disbelief in people.

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

i am a specialist in unix and linux administration systems , and i know all the story of linux even when is not linux and i understand your point of view but its not comparable .

Then you are on same boat as myself, I am senior Linux sysadmin for my main profession;)

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

Thomas Moray was literally stolen . The people that seems want help only want take advantage and use their ideas to make some of the most important electronics "best seller" like transistor but the goals don't talk about Moray and is a shame .
And lots of others good people get forget in time without be recognized the value of their work.

How you can ensure this won't happen to you too? The same story tend to repeat itself in most cases..

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

I provide since the beginning all my videos in my channel showing the evolution of my work , people can think that is not so much , but is what i can share .
I don't see people ask to Akula or Ruslan about details of their work even call them liars or cheaters .

They do ask details in Russian forums. And akula went money way so no more sharing while Ruslan is having hard time to explain how everything is set up and how it works.

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 07, 2015, 03:45:42 PM

Like woop said i insult peoples intelligence by continuing to deceive and Ruslan and Akula did the same ? I think not .

I give you a bunch of reasons to make understand my point of view .
So let the topic run on kapanadze or ruslan circuit , i like hear and appreciate the work of others, i learn even with their errors

Thanks

Good point, took chunk out of this thread outside of topic already. Back to work

Hoppy · « **Reply #9897 on:** August 07, 2015, 04:21:42 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on August 07, 2015, 04:07:18 PM

Hoppy: you keep insulting and irritating every one that shows a device that self runs, and that you can't figure out, nor will you even try to replicate. Are you making sure that no one else does either? Is that your purpose here???
I hate to tell you, but, YOUR credibility has gone to the wayside.... As has YOUR opinion, which has been up to now, that all self runners are fake!!!
And so, it's looking more and more like you are a paid troll.... Is that what you are? As you have NEVER, EVER, provided any proof of your constant negative comments and remarks Which have been impossible to ignore, as there have been over a hundred stupid ass remarks about your opinion of fakery, on this thread alone.
So, Thanks... from all of us that are working hard to find the answers. While you are working even harder to disrupt this thread.

Nick,

On the other hand, people who show devices and do not reveal build details are wasting all of our time and disrupting this thread and that irritates me. As for you suggesting that I'm a paid troll is an insult in itself, so that's 'the pot calling the kettle black'!

NickZ · « **Reply #9898 on:** August 07, 2015, 04:42:04 PM »

There is no chunk missing. The point is to KNOW how any of the self runner works, as they are all most likely working by the same principals. Especially the ones with KW outputs. And, as no one has been able to replicate the Akula/Ruslan devices, and make them work, yet, we are caught in a snare. No one knows just how to do it, even with all the theories, videos, fotos, and all, that has been offered, up to now.
So, I think that Nelson's device is NOT a waste of time, or going in the wrong direction for this thread. As his device can also light incandescent bulbs, not just an led, and probably be further improved to achieve even higher outputs in the future. At least I hope so. And, as he mentions, his type of driver can be used to power the yoke/grenade set up as well. We'll see.

T-1000: As the latest Ruslan device drivers are beyond replication due to their complexity, and as he is providing no schematic, we are forced to look for alternatives, which can be replicated, and will have a better chance of having success. Or not?
In any case, I am not giving up on the Ruslan yoke/grenade device, but am only just starting on it, instead.
So, not to worry about that.

nelsonrochaa · « **Reply #9899 on:** August 07, 2015, 04:47:12 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on August 07, 2015, 04:21:42 PM

Nick,

On the other hand, people who show devices and do not reveal build details are wasting all of our time and disrupting this thread and that irritates me. As for you suggesting that I'm a paid troll is an insult in itself, so that's 'the pot calling the kettle black'!

Sorry is not my intent irritate you or anybody but seems you can !

Push back topics and understand what real happened . I just talk that katcher circuit can be other exciter circuit only and the coils don't need to be grenade style .
Think of the reason why this Ruslan constantly changing some points of the circuit. because is learn and improve the ways to reach at their goal .
Now the question is :
Did people understand how it work and what process is used under circuit work ?

I will disclose the 1 circuit exciter that i make and show in my channel but not the feedback process

if people want to try on their yoke coil.

You are a smart guy you will discover for sure even .

I will open the exception because i share with Alien gray the same . I think is fair do the same to other people .
Now end of story . I will do not spend any time try explain details how it work , but i assure that other people has able to replicate that , so interested people can try duplicate too if want only to test.
i will not charge money

I never asked for money to anyone .

Thanks

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