Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11889685 times)

itsu · « **Reply #12870 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:38:54 AM »

Quote from: Jeg on March 20, 2016, 09:20:17 AM

Just now, and i am really impressed of this layout. Well done Itsu!

1. You have said that you supply with 15V your tl494? Then wouldn't be more appropriate to feed your drivers also with 15V instead of 12V?

2. At 1.34 you speak about the 28T from the grenade which is rectified. Do you mean that you have connected them together in series (grenade+28T) and then you connect your rectifier at the ends of both coils connected?

3. Do these two brown wires on your board carry tl494's output signals to your drivers?

Please attach your drain signals when you have some time, in comparison with your gates.
Looking forward to copy your layout!!!

ps. Cool mosfet's working temperature, happens also to my lossless build. It is surprising enough if you have used to boil eggs over your mosfets with the dissipative designs!!!

Jeg,

the TL494 board is what i had, but you could be right, better to lower it to 12V also, the high input voltage to the drivers worries me somewhat. (i would like to keep the drivers at 12V because of the 18V TVS's across the gates).

Yes, 28 turn coil is in series with the Grenade, then a FWBR.

The brown wires are RG316 coax cables which connects the TL494 output to the drivers yes.

Itsu

Jeg · « **Reply #12871 on:** March 20, 2016, 12:19:15 PM »

Thank you Itsu

Now that you mentioned it, i haven't see any tvs yet clamping at its nominal rated clamping voltage. I feel that for gate protection a zener would work more predictable.

itsu · « **Reply #12872 on:** March 20, 2016, 02:31:42 PM »

Drain/gate screenshots of the new layout, as mentioned, they look similar as the old layout ones.

Yellow/blue is drain/gate MOSFET 1
Purple/green is drain/gate MOSFET 2

First screenshot is when idling/not in resonance, second screenshot when in resonance.

I think i could improve on the layout on the yoke windings, but the present resulting output will do for the moment.

Itsu

NickZ · « **Reply #12873 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:48:41 PM »

Itsu:
What does your output actually do. Can it light any of your 100w bulbs without the HV?

As there's more than one way to connect the two induction circuits together. Or, they can be run separate from each other.
If the 168t coil is not connected to the yoke, and is used as just the output coil, like some diagrams are showing, the output is much lower. But, will the "effect" be manifested, or not? That's the main question.
Have you gotten your HV circuit or Kacher going yet, along with this new set of yoke drivers?

I've been using the Tv horizontal output transistor C5297 or similar, as my Kacher's transistor, as that is what I had on hand. It's 1500v, 8A. Do you think that these type of transistors can be connected to the rectified yoke output of the 28t/168t yoke/grenade circuit. And beprovided with the full rectified output from the yoke? They get pretty hot already with no fan and just a heat-sink, even with just the 24v and 10A input from my PS, drawing around 2 amps? Why do they get hot?

Do your diodes at the full bridge rectifier get hot, or not? Do they get hot when using 300-400w or even 1000w loads.
Do your IRFP260N get hot at higher loads?
As at a 40w load my circuits stay cool also, at that low of a load.
However your 40w bulb seams to be only lit to about 1/2 brightness, or so. Is that correct, as it hard to tell on the video?
That 40w load on your system, is not enough of a load to know if the system will also work at 1000-2000w, or not. Without overheating, or burning up.
So, can you please answer my questions, when you can.
Cheers.

verpies · « **Reply #12874 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:25:09 PM »

Quote from: itsu on March 20, 2016, 11:38:54 AM

The brown wires are RG316 coax cables which connects the TL494 output to the drivers yes.

These little coaxial cables are potential places where reflections can occur and they should be terminated with resistors like described in section 12.10.1

verpies · « **Reply #12875 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:29:54 PM »

Quote from: itsu on March 20, 2016, 02:31:42 PM

Drain/gate screenshots of the new layout, as mentioned, they look similar as the old layout ones.

Yes, they look well.

Notice that there are no waveform excursions above 2*V_CC.
Below the 2*V_CC level clamps and snubbers must be inactive so they cannot do anything about the oscillations below that level ...by design.

Also , the gate waveforms are clean and rectangular with only minor spikes ...maybe due to reflections.

Quote from: itsu on March 20, 2016, 02:31:42 PM

I think I could improve on the layout on the yoke windings, but the present resulting output will do for the moment.

Yes, it's sufficient just to keep it in mind for now.

Void · « **Reply #12876 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:39:55 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on March 20, 2016, 11:21:30 AM

Yes, of course it would be rather dumb to leave an 'X' wire visible, especially when there are several ways to route a hidden wire or two into the device given the type of environment we see in that video. However, its also possible that slip-ups happen and wires get exposed through carelessness. Its therefore not necessarily strange that the lamp array panel was moved to show a glimpse of the wiring behind it and the table and device were lifted and yet neither the electric fire or the fan were moved out of position. Hopefully he will do a much more believable update video for 2016.

Hi Hoppy. There is nothing a person could do/show in a video that would 100% eliminate the
chance of tricks. Whether Kapanadze or someone else did better in some other video, there could
be no way to say for certain that there were not tricks involved. However, Kapanadze has allowed
people to come and inspect his devices close up in person, so the chances of him using a simple trick of hidden
wires seems not so likely at this point.

Quote from: Hoppy on March 20, 2016, 11:21:30 AM

I disagree with you in respect of the Aqua2 video, as there is no video evidence that the earth braid was disconnected and fully inspected inside. If Kapanadze really had a self-runner that functioned with a single conductor earth, surely he would have delighted the inspection team by allowing a full disconnection and inspection with video evidence of this event and even footage that showed the device running with it disconnected, as it was claimed was possible. An event of this importance would almost certainly have been captured on video had TK allowed it. We have to presume that permission was not granted.

I think you are making it much more complicated than it really was.

They had the opportunity to
inspect the ground wire and ground connection point up close. It was pretty straight forward from
what can be seen in the video. The ground lug was a bolt embedded in the cement. They were allowed to
inspect that connection point up close. I personally think they would have to have been pretty blind and
dumb to not notice a trick of a live wire inside the ground wire when inspecting that ground wire and ground
connection point up close.

I realize that even when people inspect a device up close that they could at least potentially be missing
some other type of trick if they are not allowed to get right down to the nitty gritty of measuring on wires
and circuits with scopes and meters, etc., but the aquarium 2 video for me seems to at least make it not too likely
that there were hidden wires to the load, or a live wire inside the ground wire. I know that doesn't sit well
with what you want to believe, but I think it is pretty hard to get around that in any reasonable way.
Just my own opinion, of course.

itsu · « **Reply #12877 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:47:08 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on March 20, 2016, 03:48:41 PM

Itsu:
What does your output actually do. Can it light any of your 100w bulbs without the HV?

As there's more than one way to connect the two induction circuits together. Or, they can be run separate from each other.
If the 168t coil is not connected to the yoke, and is used as just the output coil, like some diagrams are showing, the output is much lower. But, will the "effect" be manifested, or not? That's the main question.
Have you gotten your HV circuit or Kacher going yet, along with this new set of yoke drivers?

I've been using the Tv horizontal output transistor C5297 or similar, as my Kacher's transistor, as that is what I had on hand. It's 1500v, 8A. Do you think that these type of transistors can be connected to the rectified yoke output of the 28t/168t yoke/grenade circuit. And beprovided with the full rectified output from the yoke? They get pretty hot already with no fan and just a heat-sink, even with just the 24v and 10A input from my PS, drawing around 2 amps? Why do they get hot?

Do your diodes at the full bridge rectifier get hot, or not? Do they get hot when using 300-400w or even 1000w loads.
Do your IRFP260N get hot at higher loads?
As at a 40w load my circuits stay cool also, at that low of a load.
However your 40w bulb seams to be only lit to about 1/2 brightness, or so. Is that correct, as it hard to tell on the video?
That 40w load on your system, is not enough of a load to know if the system will also work at 1000-2000w, or not. Without overheating, or burning up.
So, can you please answer my questions, when you can.
Cheers.

Hi Nick,

Not sure why you want to know all this, as its now just a push/pull driven transfomer, but here it goes:

it can light any or all of the 9 100W bulbs plus the 40W bulb, but the more bulbs i add, the lower the resulting DC voltage and thus light becomes.
With 9 100W bulbs and the 40W bulb connected, the 24V battery input is 7.5A (180W) and this is divided over all 10 bulbs (glowing only).
In this condition the MOSFETs (uncooled still) temperature rises to about 37°C each, the FWBR diodes stay cold (22°C).

I won't be using a kacher, so i am looking into using some other way of "disrupting pulses", but i am not there yet.

I checked on the 40W bulb when running alone (so without other bulbs or the 24V PS), there is 227V DC on it at 136mA which calculates to 30W (confirmed by my scope math function), so it runs at ¾.

I cannot comment on your kacher transistor, but 24v * 2A = 48W which can heat up a lot of things.
If it is rated for 1500V, it should be able to handle the 227V DC or so from the 28T / grenade, but you should keep an eye on the current, so good cooling is a must.

In this simple setup i have now, i do not expect to get more wattage out then the 24V * 7.5A = 180W i put in, why should it?

Itsu

Hoppy · « **Reply #12878 on:** March 20, 2016, 05:40:44 PM »

Hi Void,

Thanks for your reply. I think we all agree that 100% elimination of tricks on video is not possible. Its not a case of me wanting to believe its a fake, just that I consider it very likely that trickery was involved, in the absense of anything that strongly indicates otherwise. Or to put it more simply, I have a different way of looking at this than you.

Hoppy · « **Reply #12879 on:** March 20, 2016, 06:30:32 PM »

Quote from: Void on March 20, 2016, 04:39:55 PM

I think you are making it much more complicated than it really was. They had the opportunity to
inspect the ground wire and ground connection point up close. It was pretty straight forward from
what can be seen in the video. The ground lug was a bolt embedded in the cement. They were allowed to
inspect that connection point up close. I personally think they would have to have been pretty blind and
dumb to not notice a trick of a live wire inside the ground wire when inspecting that ground wire and ground
connection point up close.

I've posted a couple of times in the past about how thin wires could have both handled the load and taken through the crimp and into the ground with nothing visible externally, even by close visual inspection. I'm sure any competent test & inspection team would have removed the crimp had they been allowed to do so so and would have filmed the process. There is no video evidence that this was done.

Jeg · « **Reply #12880 on:** March 20, 2016, 06:58:56 PM »

Quote from: itsu on March 20, 2016, 02:31:42 PM

Drain/gate screenshots of the new layout, as mentioned, they look similar as the old layout ones.

Great work. Your gates are very clean! Like with not any mosfet connected! At the end, every inch of wire counts on parasitic creation.

itsu · « **Reply #12881 on:** March 20, 2016, 07:27:37 PM »

Triggered by a recent link from verpies about measuring the ESR of a capacitor, see this EEVBLOG video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcJ6UdDx1vg
i wanted to investigate if i could use my spectrum analyzer with tracking generator to plot the ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) of a capacitor.

The below video shows that it is possible and what the effect is when paralleling severall different value capacitors.

These are non-polarised capacitors, and i will do the same for electrolytic capacitors later.

Perhaps usefull to keep in mind when trying to silence an oscillating circuit.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=233S3BdAL9Q

Regards Itsu

Void · « **Reply #12882 on:** March 20, 2016, 08:40:46 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on March 20, 2016, 06:30:32 PM

I've posted a couple of times in the past about how thin wires could have both handled the load and taken through the crimp and into the ground with nothing visible externally, even by close visual inspection. I'm sure any competent test & inspection team would have removed the crimp had they been allowed to do so so and would have filmed the process. There is no video evidence that this was done.

Hi Hoppy. Ha ha. I won't say it is not possible, but it seems to me someone would have to be
pretty careless or naive to not take a close look at the ground lug to check for extra wires there.
Anything is possible however. I guess Kapanadze could have had mice running on a mouse wheel
connected to an alternator inside an enclosed box inside the aquarium as well. They would have to be
pretty strong mice however.

Hee hee.

GeoFusion · « **Reply #12883 on:** March 20, 2016, 09:22:38 PM »

Quote from: magpwr on March 18, 2016, 02:46:42 PM

For the rest of you still playing with kiddy voltage like 24volts or less for kacher just forget it.

Geofusion did got somewhere around 32kv but looking at the video he did cheated on the kacher.He created extra long tesla coil to generate high voltage but it's definately no where near 1.7Mhz.
By doing that he was able to run at voltage around 12 or 24volts likely.

Hi magpwr and All

,

Well input voltage is something to think about, I want to say is when you increase input voltage of Kacher ( tesla coil )
You will increase also output load while at resonance.
There is no other reason why to increase your HV pulse input to higher voltages,

24Volts dc on a simple kacher.
I have shown on some of my recordings,
About my long kacher in my vids, I have Shorten the Secondary to half of the size of grenade and there was better results.
It's because of this change, I got the particular Ibrahim effect which is awesome.
which was not recorded yet I repeat!
If ppl would to be thinking me cheating because of using long kacher for better output,
that would be a waste of time thinking that.

there is a balance, search for it.

Why won't no one continue on what I was busy with, Scared? Fear to try out?
We are already playing with fire, So you continue with that road. $:-\$
I have shown simplicity and ppl could continue experimenting with it . It will lead you to success in another way.

What ppl need to understand is how these freqs are mixed together. Let it go in Phase together.
I might be showing the most Primitive way using a Toroid " mediator " let it bind within the same field and out.
to mediate this to work. This is as reall as it can get.
Ruslan and Akula or Kapanadze have done this with same concept but different approach.
How this manifestation starts to work within the grenade or any other Cap-Coil is essential to know.

Cheerz~

NickZ · « **Reply #12884 on:** March 20, 2016, 10:50:05 PM »

Quote from: itsu on March 20, 2016, 04:47:08 PM

Hi Nick,

Not sure why you want to know all this, as its now just a push/pull driven transfomer, but here it goes:

it can light any or all of the 9 100W bulbs plus the 40W bulb, but the more bulbs i add, the lower the resulting DC voltage and thus light becomes.
With 9 100W bulbs and the 40W bulb connected, the 24V battery input is 7.5A (180W) and this is divided over all 10 bulbs (glowing only).
In this condition the MOSFETs (uncooled still) temperature rises to about 37°C each, the FWBR diodes stay cold (22°C).

I won't be using a kacher, so i am looking into using some other way of "disrupting pulses", but i am not there yet.

I checked on the 40W bulb when running alone (so without other bulbs or the 24V PS), there is 227V DC on it at 136mA which calculates to 30W (confirmed by my scope math function), so it runs at ¾.

I cannot comment on your kacher transistor, but 24v * 2A = 48W which can heat up a lot of things.
If it is rated for 1500V, it should be able to handle the 227V DC or so from the 28T / grenade, but you should keep an eye on the current, so good cooling is a must.

In this simple setup i have now, i do not expect to get more wattage out then the 24V * 7.5A = 180W i put in, why should it?

Itsu

Thanks for your answers, they are important to me. I realize that you are just using the induction circuits without the HV attached.
It's more for a comparison, for myself, to what a simple Mazilli/yoke/grenade set up can do. While on the same or less voltage, and going to the same IRFP260N mosfet. As it can light 650w, worth of incandescent on just 12v 4.5 amp battery. Although I don't know how much it was drawing. But, it was providing a very usable although unknown lumin levels. It's the lumins that interest me. Not so much about input/output readings, but the lumin levels that are available from each different circuit, instead.

Connecting the Kacher to the "mediator" coil, for added gain is still on my to do list. Hopefully without everything going up in smoke.
Still waiting for Geo to get his rid going, again, also. Nice to hear that he was able to shorten his Kacher secondary, and still maintain a decent output. Once he makes a video of it running I'll see what frequency it's running at. Previously it was running at around 10khz.

Itsu, it makes me wonder why you are only drawing 180w, from a 560w PS. To light the 950w worth of bulbs.

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