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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11191197 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12795 on: March 17, 2016, 10:06:59 AM »
You'd be much better off with a choke in place of that resistor there.

Thanks for the choke advice. I'll try to incorporate it.

About this parasitic fluctuation across Vcc and ground. It happens every time each mosfet stops conducting. Looks like my decoupling cap of 100nF across driver's legs, is not adequate for this task. Probably needs higher value. Is that correct?

ps. In addition i see a negative direction spike over voltage each time a gate signal starts. It is like that regulator's output current is not enough so to charge the gate capacitance without affecting regulator's output. Will it be improved if i increase the value of 33uF which is at the output of my regulator after this 4 Ohm resistance?
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12796 on: March 17, 2016, 10:58:21 AM »

Hi Jeg,

i see a lot of 2 stripes resistors (meaning 2W) in your 12V supply line feeding both the TL494 and the IR2110.
This points to some current flowing there, so you might be right by suspecting this could cause some 12V voltage fluctuation.

I would have both the TL494 and the IR2110 to be on separate regulators, and have a 10uF tantalum capacitor across
the IR2110 voltage supply lines to aid in the boost to charge the gates capacitance.

Also, i would add some heavy capcitors on the 12V regulators output like a 470uF electrolytic cap and a 0.1uF ceramic cap.

Finally the layout/length of the wires and components could be of importance, but that would be hard to debug.

Regards Itsu
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12797 on: March 17, 2016, 11:19:06 AM »
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  This last blurry video powering up 2000w from a simple Kacher circuit is a hoax, as far as I'm concerned, until it's actually replicated, and proven otherwise. Which is not going to happen, at least not from one of us.
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Hi Nick !
That is not a simple Kacher circuit, but is a more complex arrangement of coils around a simple Kacher.  It have including a induction element - a series resonance like in Ruslan device.
So it is not quite a plain kacher. The guy managed to get rid of all those complex electronics specific to akula/ruslan devices, but the key elements remain in place and do their good job nicely.
I love this simple setup, I even think to give a try some day.
And btw, it is not powering just 2000W, but 4000W. Well ? And all that power starting from a simple kacher passing thru a specific coil architecture, and voila magic .

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12798 on: March 17, 2016, 12:01:41 PM »
Hi Jeg,

i see a lot of 2 stripes resistors (meaning 2W) in your 12V supply line feeding both the TL494 and the IR2110.
This points to some current flowing there, so you might be right by suspecting this could cause some 12V voltage fluctuation.

I would have both the TL494 and the IR2110 to be on separate regulators, and have a 10uF tantalum capacitor across
the IR2110 voltage supply lines to aid in the boost to charge the gates capacitance.

Also, i would add some heavy capcitors on the 12V regulators output like a 470uF electrolytic cap and a 0.1uF ceramic cap.

Finally the layout/length of the wires and components could be of importance, but that would be hard to debug.

Regards Itsu
Hi Itsu :)

Hmm. Ok. I will add some heavier caps to see the behavior. I use two regulators, one for each chip. In general, my outputs right now are acceptable for my needs. If I could also debug this power supply decoupling then I would be more than happy.

Offline verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12799 on: March 17, 2016, 01:48:06 PM »
About this parasitic fluctuation across Vcc and ground. It happens every time each mosfet stops conducting. Looks like my decoupling cap of 100nF across driver's legs, is not adequate for this task. Probably needs higher value. Is that correct?
Almost.  But 33uF electrolytic is not a good one because of the high ESR which is more detrimental than low capacitance.
I'd use an additional 0.47uF ceramic in parallel.  See this video for the reason.

PS. In addition I see a negative direction spike over voltage each time a gate signal starts.
The section 12.9 of this article explains well why this happens.

Also, Itsu's advice is quite correct and his suggestion for separate regulators makes sense.

Thanks for the choke advice. I'll try to incorporate it.
A choke before the bypass caps of each regulator is called for.


Last, but not least: the area of the current loops formed by the driver <--> gate <--> source <--> driver connecrions, are the most detrimental in your setup.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12800 on: March 17, 2016, 01:52:44 PM »
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I highly recommend (unless you already have a self runner), replicating what Woopy demonstrates here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yCfy8z4lc
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That video of Woopy's is in turn a replica attempt of one of Delamorto's video. See here original video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZN1zFzgQkk

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12801 on: March 17, 2016, 01:58:02 PM »
Watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0UXhKCWPuA

Ed high, please be aware if your building a Tesla Katcher RF transfer coil that that wire might be a bit thin as I understand it 1 mm diam varnish coated copper wire might be more appropriate, hope that helps.

Regards AG

Offline Ed morbus

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12802 on: March 17, 2016, 02:17:56 PM »
Ok thanks for your info

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12803 on: March 17, 2016, 03:32:55 PM »
Hi Nick !
That is not a simple Kacher circuit, but is a more complex arrangement of coils around a simple Kacher.  It have including a induction element - a series resonance like in Ruslan device.
So it is not quite a plain kacher. The guy managed to get rid of all those complex electronics specific to akula/ruslan devices, but the key elements remain in place and do their good job nicely.
I love this simple setup, I even think to give a try some day.
And btw, it is not powering just 2000W, but 4000W. Well ? And all that power starting from a simple kacher passing thru a specific coil architecture, and voila magic .

   
   Well?
  You mentioned "It have including a induction element- a series resonance like in Ruslan device".
   
   What do you mean by that?  Induction element?  Is that a magnetic induction current circuit. Or what?
   Just how do you propose to replicate it.  By trial and error? You have no idea how it works, nor do I.
   4000w. Right!  Well, I think that it's a fake, that's what.  So, hopefully someone will prove me wrong.
   
   PS.  Neither Woopy, nor Delamorto have ever shown a self runner.  Nor has anyone else using that type of kacher circuit.
    Kacher's are very inefficient at lighting incandescent bulbs. Or to power 4000w loads.
   Joule Ringer circuits are much more efficient. But, they won't self run or power loads of over 100w.
    This is a single transistor, Ringer a made a few years ago. 60w incandescent, and a 25w CFL bulb, off a 12v 4.5ah battery.
Try to do that with a simple Kacher circuit.   Both bulbs lit up fairly bright. 
   I also connected that circuit to my version of the Akula/Ruslan device.  But, it did not sync up to do anything unusual. 

   I think that we are just over-complicating all this. The "effect" is not based on 100 component set up.



   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12804 on: March 17, 2016, 05:01:53 PM »
Hi Nick. I think there is a chance at least that if the Kapanadze OU effect is real, that once it is understood
it may turn out to be something pretty straight forward and simple. Akula is very good at designing circuits
of all types and he may have made his device more complicated than it really needs to be. Since Kapanadze
didn't want people to know what he was doing, he most probably added various things to deliberately try to throw people
off about how it is really working. Akula may have done some of that as well. The underlying principle could be quite simple,
so a simpler device that produces high output power is at least conceivable to me. :) As for Ruslan, well I think I am probably not
the only one who at this point doesn't really trust anything he is saying...  ;D

I am going to continue on sticking to basics and try to find the OU effect by doing various experiments related to
the possible principles behind these devices. From very early on I think it was clear that what Daly and Akula
seemed to be doing was combine a high current waveform created via LC resonance with a timed HV waveform or spike of some type. So that
is where I will continue to experiment. :)

P.S. When the effect is found I think there should be little doubt. We are not talking about a difference of a few Watts
or so between input and output with these devices. If someone hits the effect, they should see a very large amount
of power available at the output, and there should be little doubt at that point that they are probably seeing OU.
If someone is just seeing a difference of maybe a few Watts, it is more likely they are just overlooking something or
they are making a measurement error. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12805 on: March 17, 2016, 07:43:29 PM »
   Void:
   The basics, yes, that's what I'm after, also.
   What I think that I'm seeing on my video when the lights stay on with just the 12v, 2.5 amp wall adapter, is just that. "The effect".  But, as in any of these devices, it takes that initial kick-start, for it to be able to work, and continue on it's own.
 And, that is what may be happening on that video. The magnetic induction circuit kicks-starts the process, but then (somehow) it continues on it's own, even without the magnetic current intervention. Or not. Maybe I'm just dreaming, but those lights stayed on...
   I never tried to feed back that system. But, I'm now looking for the same effect, as I had shown.
   Knowing all the running frequencies is very important, but, just look at what Geo came up with, even without a scope, signal generator, or anything else. So, I hope that he "Hits it". Sooooooooooon...  or anyone else.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12806 on: March 17, 2016, 09:23:32 PM »
void my name is name Deggory Devassy
i am no man in disguise here ,if you search peswiki site ,you can get little info about me.

I knw many have concern that kacher secondary coil cannot handle 4000 watts power output. Because  of the thin wire used it cannot handle high amps .But i believe the coil towards the right converts high voltage low amps to low voltage high amps.

If you see this youtube link ,his circuit is able to light 100 watts of light from tesla receiver coil connected to earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARCLD3qgjmI

Lets assume the circuit is OU or self loop ,but if tesla coil deliver 100 watts put from receiver ,may be with ruslan or akula coil we can amplify the output. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12807 on: March 17, 2016, 09:34:28 PM »
Фонарик по схеме Акулы на 30W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSc74dSARLA

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12808 on: March 17, 2016, 09:57:07 PM »
Фонарик по схеме Акулы на 30W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSc74dSARLA

I's not fee energy, as soon as the power is removed the red light goes out, that's the 494 power gone then you can see the white LEDs start to die, he then cuts the video before you see any more

AG.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12809 on: March 17, 2016, 10:02:31 PM »
void my name is name Deggory Devassy
i am no man in disguise here ,if you search peswiki site ,you can get little info about me.
That explains some bits :)
Out of curiosity - was the QMoGen your experiment?

Cheers!