Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11889728 times)

Void · « **Reply #12855 on:** March 19, 2016, 04:06:32 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on March 19, 2016, 03:55:05 PM

No, its definitely not a shadow. See at 2.55 and around 4.23.

Thanks Hoppy. I am looking at it now. There could be some scrap of something laying on the floor there, or it could be
a bump in the cement as well. It is casting a shadow so it is hard to tell. I doubt that they would leave a
hidden x-wire so obviously in plain sight if it was providing power to the loads, but anything is possible I guess.

I will take a closer look...

Void · « **Reply #12856 on:** March 19, 2016, 04:28:39 PM »

Hi Hoppy, I have attached a screen shot taken just a short instant after your 'TK2015-1.jpg'
screen shot. It appears to be something on the floor alright, but not sure what it is. Probably an irregularity
in the cement or maybe a piece of scrap. It really doesn't appear to be a wire going to the light bulb board,
whatever it is.

Hoppy · « **Reply #12857 on:** March 19, 2016, 04:40:24 PM »

Quote from: Void on March 19, 2016, 04:28:39 PM

Hi Hoppy, I have attached a screen shot taken just a short instant after your 'TK2015-1.jpg'
screen shot. It appears to be something on the floor alright, but not sure what it is. Probably an irregularity
in the cement or maybe a piece of scrap. It really doesn't appear to be a wire going to the light bulb board,
whatever it is.

Thanks Void. Yes very difficult to be sure with such a grainy video. All we can do is speculate when watching these videos.

itsu · « **Reply #12858 on:** March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM »

Because of the oscillations i had with the to a loss-less clamp design modified push pull driver, i rebuild it using a more symmetric layout and as short as possible connections between yoke and MOSFETs.

It turned out to be much more stable now with no sign of oscillations (hissing etc.) only the spectrum analyzer shows some minor peaks.

I omitted any cooling on the MOSFETs as they do not seem to need it, but could be added lateron.

The resulting voltage/current in the series LC (inductor/wima caps) when in resonance, shows up as a nice sine wave on the scope and there is lots of reactive power flowing in this series LC.

Approaching the yoke with the 4 stacked ceramic magnets also does not trigger any oscillations, but we see a sudden increase in input current (from 4A to 5.5A @ 23V) resulting in an increase
in DC output voltage at the attached 24V PS (from 197V to 210V DC) and a brighter 40W load bulb.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0nfcBpbhqg&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Void · « **Reply #12859 on:** March 19, 2016, 07:23:49 PM »

Good job Itsu. That is awesome that the FETs run so cool that they don't
need heatsinks even when running at resonance. That is one well built PWM circuit.

Hoppy · « **Reply #12860 on:** March 19, 2016, 08:28:50 PM »

Another visible 'x' wire possibility?? The end of the fan stand leg appears to have been cut-off and looks to be a little shorter in length than the other legs. If its not a wire, what could it be?

cheappower2012 · « **Reply #12861 on:** March 19, 2016, 09:13:09 PM »

There are plenty of cracks,loose floor boards,bricks ready to fall out,for an x-wire to be hiding at:o

Void · « **Reply #12862 on:** March 19, 2016, 11:37:38 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on March 19, 2016, 08:28:50 PM

Another visible 'x' wire possibility?? The end of the fan stand leg appears to have been cut-off and looks to be a little shorter in length than the other legs. If its not a wire, what could it be?

Hi Hoppy. I don't know what you mean about 'another' x-wire possibility, as the your first x-wire
is not likely at all a wire.

This one doesn't look like a wire either, but I don't know what is sticking out there.
Edit: When I looked again at that fan leg, it looks like maybe the end of the leg is broken off and what we are seeing
sticking out there is just the bottom of the angle iron/plastic where it is not broken off, but I am not sure about that.
It kind of looks that way under closer inspection however.

Personally I am not too concerned about x-wires with Kapanadze because people have been allowed
to view his devices in person and up close and did not see any x-wires. The group that did that earlier
aquarium video were able to inspect everything very closely outside the aquarium, and they only had
one electric heater connected to the output, if I recall correctly, so any hidden wires should have been
pretty easy for them to spot.

P.S. If Kapanadze wanted to hide a wire, you'd think he would actually have hidden it out of sight of the
camera rather than leaving right in view of the camera, no?

verpies · « **Reply #12863 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:05:57 AM »

Quote from: itsu on March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0nfcBpbhqg&feature=youtu.be
It turned out to be much more stable now with no sign of oscillations (hissing etc.)...
I omitted any cooling on the MOSFETs as they do not seem to need it...

Isn't it amazing how sensitive to layout this circuit is ?
I hope Jeg saw your video...

Quote from: itsu on March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM

The resulting voltage/current in the series LC (inductor/wima caps) when in resonance, shows up as a nice sine wave on the scope and there is lots of reactive power flowing in this series LC.

Yes, now it is clean enough for a PLL to lock onto the I & V signals
But how do the drain waveforms look like now?

Quote from: itsu on March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM

Approaching the yoke with the 4 stacked ceramic magnets also does not trigger any oscillations,

That surprises me.

Quote from: itsu on March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM

but we see a sudden increase in input current (from 4A to 5.5A @ 23V)

That can be explained by decreased differential permeability of the core ...and decreased inductance with it.

Quote from: itsu on March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM

resulting in an increase in DC output voltage at the attached 24V PS (from 197V to 210V DC) and a brighter 40W load bulb.

That's 27% increase in input current for a 6% increase in the output voltage, hmm...

Quote from: itsu on March 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM

only the spectrum analyzer shows some minor peaks.

Is that last peak a coincidence ?
Note that: 45.5 / 13 = 3.5
Do you remember what the 45.5MHz can mean ?

Jeg · « **Reply #12864 on:** March 20, 2016, 09:20:17 AM »

Quote from: verpies on March 20, 2016, 03:05:57 AM

Isn't it amazing how sensitive to layout this circuit is ?
I hope Jeg saw your video...

Just now, and i am really impressed of this layout. Well done Itsu!

1. You have said that you supply with 15V your tl494? Then wouldn't be more appropriate to feed your drivers also with 15V instead of 12V?

2. At 1.34 you speak about the 28T from the grenade which is rectified. Do you mean that you have connected them together in series (grenade+28T) and then you connect your rectifier at the ends of both coils connected?

3. Do these two brown wires on your board carry tl494's output signals to your drivers?

Please attach your drain signals when you have some time, in comparison with your gates.
Looking forward to copy your layout!!!

ps. Cool mosfet's working temperature, happens also to my lossless build. It is surprising enough if you have used to boil eggs over your mosfets with the dissipative designs!!!

Tomtech29 · « **Reply #12865 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:06:35 AM »

HI.

"Cool mosfet's working temperature, happens also to my lossless build. It is surprising enough if you have used to boil eggs over your mosfets with the dissipative designs!!!

"

It seems to me that you are using a thin wire section on the primary winding of the yoke,whether it reflects a smaller output current?
the only element that heats up the (filter )will choke! which transmits more power to the yoke.

By the way Itsu interesting but it is not known what will happen when there are overvoltage higher voltage to the yoke 28 of the winding after switching HV or not heat?
- how much do you really amps supplied to the inductor, the heater ,there are about 12Amper?

P.s Why optimal 40 Watt testing and not /100W?

Hoppy · « **Reply #12866 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:21:30 AM »

Quote from: Void on March 19, 2016, 11:37:38 PM

Hi Hoppy. I don't know what you mean about 'another' x-wire possibility, as the your first x-wire
is not likely at all a wire. This one doesn't look like a wire either, but I don't know what is sticking out there.
Edit: When I looked again at that fan leg, it looks like maybe the end of the leg is broken off and what we are seeing
sticking out there is just the bottom of the angle iron/plastic where it is not broken off, but I am not sure about that.
It kind of looks that way under closer inspection however.

Personally I am not too concerned about x-wires with Kapanadze because people have been allowed
to view his devices in person and up close and did not see any x-wires. The group that did that earlier
aquarium video were able to inspect everything very closely outside the aquarium, and they only had
one electric heater connected to the output, if I recall correctly, so any hidden wires should have been
pretty easy for them to spot.

P.S. If Kapanadze wanted to hide a wire, you'd think he would actually have hidden it out of sight of the
camera rather than leaving right in view of the camera, no?

Yes, of course it would be rather dumb to leave an 'X' wire visible, especially when there are several ways to route a hidden wire or two into the device given the type of environment we see in that video. However, its also possible that slip-ups happen and wires get exposed through carelessness. Its therefore not necessarily strange that the lamp array panel was moved to show a glimpse of the wiring behind it and the table and device were lifted and yet neither the electric fire or the fan were moved out of position. Hopefully he will do a much more believable update video for 2016.

I disagree with you in respect of the Aqua2 video, as there is no video evidence that the earth braid was disconnected and fully inspected inside. If Kapanadze really had a self-runner that functioned with a single conductor earth, surely he would have delighted the inspection team by allowing a full disconnection and inspection with video evidence of this event and even footage that showed the device running with it disconnected, as it was claimed was possible. An event of this importance would almost certainly have been captured on video had TK allowed it. We have to presume that permission was not granted.

PS: Further manipulation of the images confirm to me that neither are wires / cables.

verpies · « **Reply #12867 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:26:20 AM »

Quote from: Jeg on March 20, 2016, 09:20:17 AM

1. You have said that you supply with 15V your TL494? Then wouldn't be more appropriate to feed your drivers also with 15V instead of 12V?

Good point. That's what I would do if the driver could accept that supply voltage ...albeit fed from a separate regulator, choke and stiffening caps.

Jeg · « **Reply #12868 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:29:18 AM »

Quote from: Tomtech29 on March 20, 2016, 11:06:35 AM

It seems to me that you are using a thin wire section on the primary winding of the yoke,whether it reflects a smaller output current?

Hi Tomtech. See at the attached video my wirings. No thin wires. 2,5mm2 for each of my primaries, 12 T per primary. As with Ruslan's push pull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvJnEqeZAYo

itsu · « **Reply #12869 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:31:00 AM »

Quote from: verpies on March 20, 2016, 03:05:57 AM

But how do the drain waveforms look like now?

Well, these waveforms look similar as the ones with the old layout, but i will take some screenshots.

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Do you remember what the 45.5MHz can mean ?

yes, you mentioned this before:

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Remember that solid ferromagnetic Iron resonates at 45.5MHz

Itsu

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