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Offline seraphis

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 07:20:38 AM »
Hi seraphis,
 
 Thanks for the classification info (some of them was known to me, years ago I also searched some of them in patent offices and since the web the online possibility is much convenient of course) and looking forward to reading some of your 'pearls'.   8)
 
 My best shot so far has been this US patent application (and I strongly doubt a final patent will ever be granted) from a Japanese guy, Makoto Ogoshi, perhaps you have also come across him in one of his (Japanese or international) patents out of the several ones he has applied or been granted so far.  So my "pearl"  is this application: US2005140231, Power generator and torque amplifier, a simple link is here:
 
  http://www.google.com/patents/US20050140231
 
 [In the Example section of the application the inventor wrote the input power was 8 times 50W=400W (from eight 24V DC motors) and the output power was 2 kW AC...]
 
 rgds,  Gyula



Hello again Gyula,

Yes I do have info on OGOSHI. See attachment.

One of the best 'pearls' I have found to date comes from Australia. I have attached the full patent application for your perusal. The year - 1979.

More later,

seraphis

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 07:20:38 AM »

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 09:59:26 AM »
all that you need - to plase this model in seriusly 3D FEM program (not FEMM 4.0) - and see not working

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2012, 02:37:39 PM »
all that you need - to plase this model in seriusly 3D FEM program (not FEMM 4.0) - and see not working

Hi jonifer,

Would like to know whether you have placed this model in a real 3D FEM program and found it not working or you just express your skepticism?  I think even if a real 3D software shows it not working, a practical test by an experienced hands-on person is still justified.
See this link here: http://greenenergy211.blogspot.com/  and the author wrote: I think the largest barrier in seeing a machine built that runs off permanent magnets is our current mental state. There’s no question in my mind that it is quite possible. However, present science says, “it’s NOT possible, that acceleration of an object via Permanent Magnets without ‘LOCK-UP’, demonstrating net gain of energy with NO apparent input of energy.”
 My basic approach is breaking the magnetic symmetry. This is accomplished by creating multiple additional electromagnetic fields from the placement and movement of the permanent magnets. The rotor being magnets as well allows magnetic fields to pass through one another. This is where many new possibilities exist. "  This quote came from here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7506-permanent-magnets.html

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
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Offline mastersus

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2012, 02:56:50 PM »
I have to agree with Gyula's post, the possibilities fixed magnets could provide is as yet unexplored to it's full.
Should any experienced hands on person wish to experiment with this, I would love to be involved, although my knowledge in this field is limited.
My own gut feeling, is that we can see a model of symbiotic magnetic field interrelationship, in the rotational motion of heavenly bodies.
Rotational energy is the most visible form of free energy we can observe, it's in every atom, every planet. The earth is a spinning magnetic field with a ferrous core, could this conceivably be harnessed?...mastersus

 

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2012, 09:21:20 PM »
Nice topic, much said and links filled with data but are there any builders who have made even a simulation of this device as given in his drawings?   Keep the faith and build on it.  Smiles to you all and wishing you all a bright future.

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2012, 09:21:20 PM »
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Offline lumen

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2012, 06:24:15 AM »
If we are talking about the French patent drawings, then I suppose it would be best to look at it with a different frame of view.
What if the two rotating disks were stationary and the single disk that was stationary rotates! This is the same thing and easier to build and understand and model in a simulator.

Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: magnetic perpetual motion
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2012, 07:10:59 AM »

all that you need - to plase this model in seriusly 3D FEM program (not FEMM 4.0) - and see not working

not perfect

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