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TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4605 on: August 14, 2012, 04:50:54 AM »
Tania Kosell (friend of Stella) says, "Hi."
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Stella's napping right now, but I'll leave a note for her, that Tania checked in. We don't see a lot of her these days.... I think she's doing some deep undercover work and hasn't reported in in a while.

Thanks !!

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4606 on: August 14, 2012, 05:03:53 AM »
DigiKey: Three days from placing the order on the net, to receiving it in my mailbox. In Toronto, it sometimes was in my hands at 10 am the next morning, if I ordered by 2 pm. How they did that I will never understand. They must have their own UPS airplane, or set of flying reindeer or something.

I found the cap she needed in half a minute on the online catalog, found the exhange rate conversion, could have even placed the order for her. She'd have the cap by Wednesday, or Thursday at the latest. And she wouldn't have had to admit her ignorance to anyone.

But if she wants to spend three or four times as much on a useless (for her purposes) and more dangerous (in her intended usage) capacitor ... well, that is just part of the plotline, isn't it.

I agree, it sounds like a big, multisection oilfilled motor cap, since she calls it specifically an "AC" capacitor. But the capacitance rating seems high for that type of cap. But who knows what numbers she might have scrambled.



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« Reply #4607 on: August 14, 2012, 05:29:25 AM »
She probably ordered something like this but with a higher VAC.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-Motor-Start-Capacitor-6FLV5?Pid=search

Note how the uF on start caps is typically specified as a range of capacitance similar to the numbers she stated.

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4608 on: August 14, 2012, 06:15:57 AM »
She probably ordered something like this but with a higher VAC.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-Motor-Start-Capacitor-6FLV5?Pid=search

Note how the uF on start caps is typically specified as a range of capacitance similar to the numbers she stated.

Facepalm.

That woman is going to hurt herself one of these days. It's a good thing for her that the voltages in her system are actually relatively low  AC. Charge up 800 microFarads to a couple hundred volts and manage to leave it on the cap ... that's not chopped liver. 25 Joules will kill you if you take it across the chest.

TinselKoala

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« Reply #4609 on: August 14, 2012, 06:26:49 AM »
What is even more hilarious is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Awd8_Xro0

I am here running Tar Baby at 36 volts.... with NO BATTERY, just a bank of capacitors in parallel. I've charged these caps to the same voltage as the batteries, showed the SAME AINSLIE OSCILLATIONS, same negative mean power product, and then disconnected the batteries and let the circuit run on the caps alone-- showing that the oscillations and the negative mean power persist unchanged for as long as there is enough charge in the caps to sustain them.

And not a single cap in the _parallel stack_ is rated over 55 volts ... DC. Most are rated 40 volts. They are all polarized electrolytics of course.

So... why didn't they blow up? Duh....

Oh... maybe it's because I wasn't using enough mosfets. Yeah... that's got to be it.

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« Reply #4610 on: August 14, 2012, 06:43:13 PM »
  TK do you think it would help to slow the rate of the discharging capacitor bank to hook it up to ground thru a diode?  I was just thinking that when the system goes positive the Earth might give up some electrons so the other capacitor plate doesn't have to supply them?

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4611 on: August 14, 2012, 07:17:20 PM »
  TK do you think it would help to slow the rate of the discharging capacitor bank to hook it up to ground thru a diode?  I was just thinking that when the system goes positive the Earth might give up some electrons so the other capacitor plate doesn't have to supply them?
I'm happy to try it, but no, I don't really think it would help in this case, like it does in some of my other, high voltage capacitively coupled systems.
I'm not so sure about the picture of a capacitor plate supplying electrons, though.... I'm pretty sure that all the electrons concerned are coming from the Earth somehow anyway, if you could trace them back to their origins.

Some people think there is really only one electron, anyway. I might be one of those people... let me check.

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« Reply #4612 on: August 15, 2012, 05:57:14 AM »
Posted by Ainslie on 5 August 2012. And today is still 14 August, but it's almost 15 August.

I guess God hasn't been willing. Or... perhaps.... Ainslie has not been able to do what she claims she will CERTAINLY do. Again.

Tick tock, Ainslie. Every day that you do not fulfil your promise/threat, when everyone knows you have your apparatus and your oscilloscope and your function generator and your DMM and your batteries-- at least three of them, which are plenty for this test.... every day that goes by with you not fulfilling your promise...  is another day of defeat for you.

Just admit you were wrong, retract your manuscripts, and go back to waiting tables, or cosmetology, or something you might actually be able to do .... like writing bad doggerel insults.

The only reason a lot of us are still hanging around is because we want to see you fall flat on your face with these promised video 'refutations' of the things we've been telling you about your circuit and data. So would you please just get on with it, already? 

Or admit you cannot.

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« Reply #4613 on: August 15, 2012, 10:43:56 AM »
I am rolling on the floor laughing my eyes out. Look at what the ignoramus has come up with now. I swear, it's a miracle this person can even use a computer at all, she is so completely ignorant.

.99 .... I really hope you can make some effort to explain things to her so that she can stop making such an utter and complete fool of herself.


And she really REALLY needs to get a grip on her math. She thinks 800 microFarad is AN EIGHTH OF A FARAD !!!

She thinks I "stack 40 volts in parallel"... She thinks that RUNNING TAR BABY FOR A SIGNIFICANT TIME ON CAPS ONLY UNTIL THEY RUN DOWN JUST LIKE BATTERIES ONLY FASTER is somehow "typical of decay of a parasitic oscillation". But the CAP DOES SUSTAIN THE OSCILLATION as she would see for herself if she wasn't blindered by her arrogance and ignorance. She thinks 800 microFarads is an EIGHTH of a FARAD !!! ... and somehow comparable to 0.3 Farad, and she thinks that her FILTER CAPACITOR ( what was supposed to be a filter but is actually going to be useless to her for any reason) is for the same purpose as my SUPPLY CAPACITOR; she thinks that 60 nF is one nF; she thinks that there is some relationship between a capacitor's capacitance and the current it can carry; she thinks that a capacitor stack providing DC voltage is somehow completely discharging its entire potential with every oscillation; she challenges my assertion that my power transmitter caps are handling upwards of 40 amperes as if that were amazing and special...  In every sentence she makes a bigger and bigger fool of herself. She really should NOT be drinking in the afternoon.

What a nitwit she is.

.99... I really hope you come up to the plate here and explain to her where she is going wrong in her silly statements.

HEY AINSLIE: 0.3 Farad is 300 MILLIFARADS.    800 microFarads is 0.000800 Farad. Much much MUCH less than 0.3 Farad. THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTYFIVE TIMES LESS.   When will you learn to do simple arithmetic?
And an eighth of a Farad is 0.125 Farad.... quite a bit more than the 800 microFarad cap that you suckered yourself into wasting money on.... about a hundred and fiftysix times MORE than your measly 0.0008 Farad, 150 ZAR motor-start capacitor. An eighth of a Farad! I would LOVE to watch you hook up an eighth of a Farad to your 72 volt battery stack.

HEY AINSLIE: Call up your local radio station and ask them about their transmitting capacitors, the ones that are rated in PICOFARADS and handle KILOAMPERES of current. Be sure and tell them that they cannot possibly exist because our standard model doesn't allow it.

HEY AINSLIE: where is YOUR VIDEO that you promised us last Monday, last week, last weekend, by dinnertime.....  You can't do it, because we are right and you are wrong and your "papers" are full of garbage that you think is data but is completely invalid because you did NOT have the FG black lead in the right place, you LIE about your schematics, and your mosfet was blown for at least some of your reported data.

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« Reply #4614 on: August 15, 2012, 11:07:23 AM »
The IRFZ44N is rated at 49 amps when cool... but only 35 amps when running at 100 degrees C.  And I am running these twinned mosfets at close to the edge of their envelope. And my 60 nF capacitor stack is directly between the drains of the two mosfets. Now, how can an input current of 5 or 6 amps result in 40 amps circulating around in the caps, mosfets and transmitting loop? It's a miracle, for sure. And it must be happening, else how could a SINGLE TURN COIL make enough magnetic field to transmit 5 or six hundred milliamperes of current across a half a meter of EMPTY SPACE?

But yes, the only relevance of this is to emphasise Ainslie's ignorance and give her some more material for her foot-in-mouth disease while she avoids doing the test that will completely falsify her daft manuscripts and cause her to admit that they are completely invalid since the data are so much garbage.

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« Reply #4615 on: August 15, 2012, 11:19:07 AM »
@Picowatt:
You know, the schematic in the JNP "publication" of the second daft manuscript gives Ainslie the perfect "out" explanation for the scopeshots.   ;)

Since that schematic shows the mosfets whose gates are connected to the RED + FG lead as the Q2x4 gang of four....  she has the perfect explanation for why there  is no current flowing when they are getting a +12 volt signal from the FG.

The 4 gates are in parallel, so each one is only getting 1/4 of the +12 volt voltage signal from the FG RED + lead .... three volts. And any fool knows a mosfet won't turn on with only three volts to the gate.

 :o

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4616 on: August 15, 2012, 02:59:21 PM »
@Picowatt:
You know, the schematic in the JNP "publication" of the second daft manuscript gives Ainslie the perfect "out" explanation for the scopeshots.   ;)

Since that schematic shows the mosfets whose gates are connected to the RED + FG lead as the Q2x4 gang of four....  she has the perfect explanation for why there  is no current flowing when they are getting a +12 volt signal from the FG.

The 4 gates are in parallel, so each one is only getting 1/4 of the +12 volt voltage signal from the FG RED + lead .... three volts. And any fool knows a mosfet won't turn on with only three volts to the gate.

 :o

 ;)



Stop baiting... She is already more than confused...


Again, I suggest she find an individual qualified in electronics to assist with her tests.

It is not reasonable to expect that someone with her limited understanding will be able to implement .99's suggestion regarding the use of caps wthout understanding the properties of various types of caps and the need for very short connections between the CSR and the negative most battery terminal (as well as the cap leads).  Even a 4" length of 12 gauge wire is 1.4 ohms at 2.5MHz.

The best non-indcutive resistor I can find for the CSR (with inductance data provided) would be a Caddock TO-3P unit.  Inductance is specified as 10nHy if connections are .2" from the package.  Even this represents a significant error (.157 ohms) at 2.5MHz.

I would suggest soldering the CSR immediately to and at a wire clamped to the negative most battery terminal.  Also, I would suggest increasing the CSR value to as much as 1 ohm to reduce the % of error from lead inductance.


She really needs to find a qualified individual to assist in making/documenting accurate measurements and to ensure safety.



 
« Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 04:17:11 PM by picowatt »

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« Reply #4617 on: August 15, 2012, 03:50:59 PM »
TK,

I don't think I can help any further with explanations, as it seems the more I explain, the less that is understood.

I think it best I watch as the test results come in, and hopefully I'll have time to do my own demonstration.

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« Reply #4618 on: August 15, 2012, 04:09:21 PM »
TK,

I don't think I can help any further with explanations, as it seems the more I explain, the less that is understood.

I think it best I watch as the test results come in, and hopefully I'll have time to do my own demonstration.

.99,

I applaud your efforts, and your patience...

It was, however, like watching someone try to describe colors to a blind man...

PW

TinselKoala

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« Reply #4619 on: August 15, 2012, 04:23:52 PM »
@.99
I told you. She hasn't learned a thing from you. She has only been pretending, leading you on. If you gave her a 'quiz' today on everything you've covered so far... she'd flunk miserably, and not even acknowledge it, because it's actually YOU that are wrong, you see.

Not only does she know everything there is to know about mosfets, but now, after a day or two of gargling (google garbling), she now knows all about capacitors too.

As I've said before, ignorance is excusable.... barely, in today's internet environment.

But this thing that Ainslie has is not just ignorance. What dynamic makes her come out of the blue and make statements full of error, mendacity and sheer vileness as that last post about my running TB on caps, when people are actually trying to help her understand? What makes her think that 800 microFarads is an eighth of a Farad, and to trumpet this idiotic "fact" as if it was some great revelation from on high? What makes her garble EVERY SINGLE BIT of information she gets and has to repeat? It's a lot more than mere ignorance. There is an active force inside her, deliberately and aggressively screwing up her mentation. Why doesn't she even bother to check her facts? How can she continuously commit such outrageous math errors as to think that 800 microFarads is anywhere near an "eighth of a Farad" and compare it in the same sentence with the 300,000 micro Farad bank that I used to run TB without any batteries at all? I mean...OK, she doesn't understand powers of ten and the common abbreviations like milli, micro, nano, pico. But doesn't the woman have a frigging CALCULATOR WITH BIG BUTTONS ????

This thing she has about capacitors and current really bugs me. How is it possible for someone to pretend to write "papers" on electronics and electricity.... replacing them with zipons ... and yet get material facts so stupidly wrong? This is the Ainslie Phenomenon, a mindworm that crawls through her deluded, half-in-the-bag brain, eating real facts and replacing them with garbled garbage that doesn't even hang together internally... and that, for some reason, she MUST spew forth like so much vomitus and bile.

What testing is this that .99 mentions, though? There will be no testing. She has already demonstrated that she will do ANYTHING... even including sending her apparatus off to strangers..... heh heh , however strange they might be.... to avoid performing any tests. And now that she's driven .99 off with her ignorant mendacity and failure to do her homework.... she gets to play all by herself in her little sandbox and do whatever she likes, interpret what she sees to confirm her "thesis" and continue to lie about her work. She's not going to be doing TESTS at all. She will be trying to do, if anything at all, demonstrations of colored wiggly lines on her Etch-a-Sketch toy oscilloscope. Wiggly lines that are there just for show because she knows the real information is in those little boxes with numbers in them. Numbers she cannot even read correctly..... constantly confusing "milli" with "micro", or thinking that "AC coupling" is appropriate to measure the low-voltage, fluctuating DC gate drive signal.

I just wish she would get on with the comedy show and actually POST THOSE VIDEOS she has been promising us for months now. None of us are getting any younger.