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Author Topic: Testing the TK Tar Baby  (Read 1628078 times)

Offline fuzzytomcat

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4665 on: August 19, 2012, 08:41:24 PM »
Now that's a really nice forum she has there.
 
Not too difficult to envision her sitting there on her own deserted island of shifting delusions
with no one to talk to but herself, waiting for someone ..anyone, to please post something ..anything.
 
Time for her to PM as many people as she can, to at least leave a comment.
.

LOOK .... at the web site stats !!

Talk about a "DRY" spell over there, when having 532 members and Rosemary with 300% more postings including time logged in than anyone else. I wonder why all the members aren't posting ..... maybe there just members to be able to view the attachment files posted, because you have to be a member of this IP and cookie tracking honey hole web site to see anything.

Just think .... Rosemary is proud of this personal web site of COP knowledge destruction .

FTC
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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4666 on: August 19, 2012, 08:46:37 PM »
If applying +10 volts to the gate of Q1 in her recent test does not turn on Q1, what, exactly, does she have to do to make Q1 turn on for the "high heat" mode?

Surely if +10 volts were applied to the gate of Q1, the waveforms would look like FIG 5, wherein the CSR trace shows substatial current flow during the positive portion of the FG cycle.


So, if a functional Q1 is connected as per the schematic, and the FG output is +10V, the CSR trace should look like FIG 5 during the positive portion of the FG cycle and FIG 3 will not be able to be replicated (wherein +12 volts is applied to the gate of Q1 and no current flow is observed).

Or, if Q1 does not turn on with +10 volts applied to its gate, Q1 cannot be connected as per the schematic in which case the CSR trace will look like FIG 3, and FIG 5 will not be able to be replicated.

Again, a functional Q1 connected as per the schematic must turn on when the FG output is +5 volts or greater and current flow will be observed at the CSR trace as in FIG 5.

She can't have it both ways.  If Q1 is connected as per the schematic, the waveforms should look like FIG 5 when the FG output is +5 volts or greater with substantial current flow observed at the CSR.

If she has indeed applied +10 volts to the gate of a functional Q1, and observed no current flow, I would suggest she has the source and gate leads of Q1 reversed, placing Q1 in parallel with the four Q2 MOSFET's.  Of course, there will be no "high heat" mode with this connection, which would also not be as per the schematic.

   

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4667 on: August 20, 2012, 12:29:44 AM »
To be credible, the evidence for her claim MUST include the following:

1)A clear and conventionally drawn schematic NEWLY MADE of the circuit in use, not a clone or rehash of any of the existing diagrams;
2)Clear and large photographs of both sides of the circuit in use, with a time-date stamp that is verifiable, BEFORE the test run is accomplished, so that the schematic given can be verified as that actually in use;
3)Some confirmation testing that all mosfets used are fully functional before testing;
4)The data run itself, including time-temperature profiles of the load in use;
5)A known and verifiable signal of +10 to +12 volts at the RED function generator lead connected to the Q1 mosfet GATE / Q2 mosfet SOURCES as shown in the paper's schematic;
6)The relevant scope shots;
7)Some confirmation testing that the mosfets are STILL all fully functioning after testing;
8)Clear and large photographs of both sides of the circuit in use, with a time-date stamp that is verifiable, AFTER the test run is completed, so that the schematic given can be verified as that actually used.

The timestamps could be done by displaying, in the same frame, some unique information, like a computer screen showing a live time indication like this one:
www.time.gov
Although even that could be faked easily. A live video would be even better than still photos, but still possible to fake of course.

I submit that, considering the sum total of Ainslie's past history with data, scopeshots, schematics, wiring and testing, anything less than this full set of information will be unreliable and untrustworthy at best,  and complete mendacity otherwise.

I ask again. How are the mosfets to be tested for proper functioning before and after the experimental trials?

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4667 on: August 20, 2012, 12:29:44 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4668 on: August 20, 2012, 11:15:36 AM »
.99.......
You really should  require HER to show HER work, which she never does.

Because as you well know, forgetting to divide by one can really screw up a calculation. I'd like to see just where forgetting to divide by one caused her to get the numbers she got... so I don't make the same stupid mistakes.



Maybe I should just divide everything by one, and see what happens.

Polly Parrot, the mathematician who thinks dividing by one will solve her problems. I swear you cannot even parody this woman, she is her own parody. I don't even believe SHE is that stupid; she must surely be joking.

Also you really should check her other thread, where it is very clear that she doesn't believe a thing you have been telling her.

Of course, someone who thinks that 1 Joule = 1 Watt and that "per" never indicates a division operation.... might also think that dividing by one is the same as taking the inverse of a number..... dividing 1 BY the number, not the other way around. And anyone with a day's experience in a math classroom would know that ANY NUMBER DIVIDED BY ONE yields that same number. Why... even a calculator can show that this is true. But maybe she should try all numbers just to make sure that when you divide any of them BY ONE, you get the same number you started with. Exactly.

But of course we are mind readers and we know what Ainslie means: it is the exact opposite of what she says, and if we misunderstand this, it is OUR fault, not hers.

She knows what the "2" in an expression like   
x2
means, I hope. It means "square" or the second power; in other words,  take x and multiply it by itself.

I wonder what she makes of an expression like

x-1

?   

 :o

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4669 on: August 20, 2012, 11:31:52 AM »
This is SIXTH GRADE math, the kind an eleven year old child can do in a few minutes, with a paper and pencil.

I ask again: how are the mosfets to be tested to show that they are functional before and after the scopeshots we are worried about are reproduced by Ainslie?

Do I expect to get an answer? Of course not, I am just emphasising that there won't be an answer, nor will there be any honest testing or reporting from Ainslie and her "team" of incompetents.

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4670 on: August 21, 2012, 08:37:32 PM »
Drinking in the afternoon again I see, Ainslie.

You are a liar, a fool and an ignorant idiot. Your "papers" with all their lousy "data" and all their contradictions and errors are still posted in multiple different versions all over the internet. Each time you pretend to understand something .99 has worked so hard to teach you, you simply parrot back words that you don't understand at all and you get them wrong every time. Your arithmetic is execrable, your English atrocious and your arrogance knows no limit. And you aren't taking the advice of your lawyers. You are paranoid, deluded, and apparently alcoholic as well, and you have never been able to refute a single thing that's been said about you or your silly toys or your lying error-ridden daft manuscripts, ever. You don't even have the common courtesy to correct your errors and apologise for them. And now you and your sock puppets are continuing to lie and pollute the environment with your madness and delusions.

Don't worry...  "soon, you will attain the stability you strive for, in the only way that it's granted... in a place among the fossils of our time."

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4671 on: August 22, 2012, 04:49:52 AM »
@.99:
Ainslie has said that she received some "special resistors" that the laboratory in the USA, which confirmed that her circuit DOES discharge its batteries, sent her to use in some testing. She has never told us precisely what those resistors are or exactly how they were to be used. At the time she reported this, I guessed that they might be non-inductive current-viewing resistors or perhaps a different, more readily characterizable load than her RV water heater element.

And she's never mentioned them again.

This usually means that I've hit the nail on the head. Why don't you ask her?

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4672 on: August 22, 2012, 06:13:26 AM »
Hey TK,

If I were to say to you, "You're old and likely going to die soon." Would you take that as a threat?

I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't... unless they were a little paranoid. 

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4673 on: August 22, 2012, 06:15:57 AM »
TK,

I think it is highly unlikely Rose will provide the answer to that question.

And it would seem strange for it to be a CSR if she is sourcing one. So most likely it is a load resistor, although I can't imagine why they sent it.

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4674 on: August 22, 2012, 06:40:08 AM »
Hey TK,

If I were to say to you, "You're old and likely going to die soon." Would you take that as a threat?

I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't... unless they were a little paranoid. 

polln8r
Are you referring to the "stability you strive for" quotation?
It's a quotation from one of my favorite songs. Are you saying Grace Slick and Paul Kantner were threatening someone? I think she was telling us all about our common fate, if we don't wake up and see the Crown of Creation for what it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-dz3cxhQy4

"In loyalty to their kind
they cannot tolerate our minds.
In loyalty to our kind
we cannot tolerate their obstruction....."

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4675 on: August 22, 2012, 06:58:09 AM »
TK,

I think it is highly unlikely Rose will provide the answer to that question.

And it would seem strange for it to be a CSR if she is sourcing one. So most likely it is a load resistor, although I can't imagine why they sent it.
I think it's unlikely as well.

However, she is "sourcing" a shunt just like she "sourced" the capacitor you  recommended. You gave her a link that would have resulted in the specified acceptable and inexpensive part arriving at her mailbox within a few days. She chose to waste days and Rand on a part that isn't going to be suitable for the purpose (the 800 microF cap) and she's now choosing to delay perhaps another four weeks to "source" the resistor she says she's found.... and what are the chances that it will be suitable for the purpose?

You may recall that, over a year ago, in the locked thread, she was told exactly how to make an extremely low inductance CVR from readily available components economically, by I think cheeseburger. And of course Fuzzy has also specified a readily available resistor of suitably low inductance, long ago. She is doing this as a delaying tactic plain and simple. If she were at all sincere she would have had one of these things long ago.

Also, I find it inconceivable that a professional laboratory of battery chemists and EE types would not have used their own noninductive CVR when testing Ainslie's circuit and compared its results with those given by her concrete wirewound power resistors. You would have done this (in fact you did in the sim I think) , I would have done this, PW would have done this... etc.

And in an effort to get Ainslie to understand... because you _know_ that they would have gone back and forth about it in communications.. it makes perfect sense for them to send along a six dollar part, just to call her bluff and get her finally to shut up.

I know I would.

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4676 on: August 22, 2012, 07:00:58 AM »
Hey TK,

If I were to say to you, "You're old and likely going to die soon." Would you take that as a threat?

I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't... unless they were a little paranoid. 

polln8r
Well, I am old and likely to die soon, aren't I?  How can anyone argue with that?

Is it sort of like killing two birds with one stone, one of which is TK? That's pretty silly, because I'm not a bird, after all, I just use one for a body double in my feature films.

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4677 on: August 22, 2012, 07:03:32 AM »
TK,
    I was just offering what I saw as the worst-case scenario in terms of the interpretation of that quote, which is not even close to what I would consider "threatening."
I mean, I guess I just assume this is what Rosemary is talking about in this recent post (the image refers).

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4678 on: August 22, 2012, 07:20:05 AM »
She is a hoot, ain't she, that Ains-lie.....

 ;D


(BTW... do you really believe that SA has no nuclear weapons any more? )

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4679 on: August 22, 2012, 07:30:22 AM »

(BTW... do you really believe that SA has no nuclear weapons any more? )

Well, it says so on the internet... so it must be true.

 

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