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Author Topic: Testing the TK Tar Baby  (Read 1615221 times)

Offline polln8r

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4650 on: August 18, 2012, 01:59:45 AM »
TK,

So, I've been trying to design an oscillating circuit using the Falstad sim with the intention of one day making a lower power version of your wireless power transmitter. Starting with their basic LRC circuit (the one that comes up by default) and going from there, this was one I've come up with (see attached document, copy contents, paste into Falstad sim "import" window... click "import.") To start the beast, simply depress the momentary switch for a brief moment. The idea is to put the antenna in the place of the LED's.

My questions:
Is this circuit even possible/practical in a real-world setting? Or, would the actual components just fry or not do anything?

Also, perhaps this post will show my lack of knowledge in the area, and hopefully convincing anybody who may think otherwise that I am not, in fact, you.

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4651 on: August 18, 2012, 03:46:08 AM »
...then there's this one. An earlier version that seems to oscillate more "evenly" (not sure how to describe it... steadily?) IF you can get it to settle into a sustained mode (I have to push the button several times for it to eventually work.)

I realize these are likely to be completely useless so feel free to just say so if that's the case!

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4652 on: August 18, 2012, 08:29:10 AM »
@polln8r: I will meditate upon your oscillators and see what I think.


But meanwhile, just when you thought she couldn't possibly be as stupid as I say she is.... She finally comes up with a challenge for .99 that he's not going to be able to meet. Plus, since he hasn't responded to her last question (actually he did, even before she asked it, but never mind)... she knows that she is right, otherwise he would have corrected her.


SO, you electronic geniuses, using the capacitances given for the IRFPG50, YOU explain how a flow of DC current of 8 volts peak to peak is enabled through that mosfet. I'll bet you can't do it.


(Not only  don't her answers make sense, she is SO stupid that even her QUESTIONS don't make sense.)

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4652 on: August 18, 2012, 08:29:10 AM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4653 on: August 18, 2012, 08:39:48 AM »
Lol Dc current 8v peak to peak.   :o    ;D

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4654 on: August 18, 2012, 08:43:05 AM »
Well she did say she was 'rolling' a few times the other day with her friends.  :o ;)

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« Reply #4654 on: August 18, 2012, 08:43:05 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4655 on: August 18, 2012, 09:00:24 AM »
Look. We are supposed to KNOW what she means. Isn't it obvious? When Ainslie says something, you have to interpret it backwards. Like Bizarro World. We've noticed this before.

When Ainslie says "Volts" we are supposed to hear AMPS.
When Ainslie says "DC" we are supposed to know she means AC.
When Ainslie says "one eighth" we are supposed to know she means 0.8. And when she says 0.8 we are supposed to know she means 0.000800.

And it is YOUR FAULT that you don't immediately understand and forgive her silly girl, math challenged, not a clue, ERRORS.... the ones that wouldn't even be made if she understood ANY of what .99 has been trying to teach her, or if she simply checked her work before posting. But Ainslie doesn't have to do that, LOL, she's so arrogant that she doesn't even care in the least how abysmally wrong she is... she just moves on to an even greater wrongness. I can't wait to see what she garbles tomorrow. Polly the Paranoid Parrot will be giving us a few more doozys before she's done.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4656 on: August 18, 2012, 09:13:22 AM »
By the way... filing a false police report is a crime in the USA. How about in South Africa?

Yes, it is definitely time for another letter to her lawyers.

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Offline picowatt

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4657 on: August 18, 2012, 03:50:49 PM »
Sounds like someone "smugly" spoke to a salesperson at an electrical supply house (not electronic supply) looking for a cap.  In the discussion she mentions over 200volts and 8 amps and the salesperson, familiar with only 50/60Hz AC, tells her that she is going to need a large uF value cap to handle 8 amps...

Of course, the reactance of a capacitor for a given uF value at 50/60 Hz is way different than at 1.5 to 2.5MHz.  Also, the need for a low ESL (Equivalent Series Inductance) capacitor is not required at 50/60Hz, where the effects of ESL on a cap's ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) are negligible.  In the end, she winds up with a large NP (Non-Polarized) electrolytic motor starting cap and the belief that small value caps can't carry significant currrent.

I assume she meant to say plus/minus 8 amps.  Many months ago .99 discussed with her the need to correct the CSR value for inductance, and indeed she even reminded TK of the need to do that.  Yet here of late, she continues to use apparently uncorrected numbers regarding the current observed at the CSR.  My recent posts discussing the CSR inductance and the frequencies involved put the current flow at closer to or less than plus/minus 1.5 amps.  Just as she scoffed at my posts, I guess she has indeed decided that there is "no such animal" as inductive reactance.

Now she wants to rehash the AC current flow thru the MOSFET capacitances with her latest "challenge".  This was discussed at length, even on her own thread, immediately following .99's futile attempts to explain the circuit's DC conditions to her.  Possibly she should reread her own thread... her recent question was already answered therein.  The real "challenge" is for her to quit arguing and actually learn and understand, else all discussions are just a waste of time.

As far as her reading the data sheet for the IRFPG50 and quoting capacitance values, can she understand how the capacitances of all 5 MOSFET's are in parallel in her circuit?  Does she understand how the MOSFET capacitances vary with the applied voltage?  If she could spend a bit of time looking at and understanding the graph in her data sheet that shows how the MOSFET capacitances vary with the applied voltage, she might even begin to understand why her oscillation is assymetrical.

Where are all her expert collaborator's?  Surely one of them can calculate reactance...

Maybe one of them can read a 'scope as well and could also explain to her that there is indeed an issue regarding Q1 not turning on when it should in FIG3, 6, and 7...

 


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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4658 on: August 18, 2012, 04:04:35 PM »
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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4659 on: August 18, 2012, 07:17:58 PM »
Wow.  I knew it was bad... but....

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According to a survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the UN, South Africa was ranked first for rapes per capita.[15] The incidence of  has led to the country being referred to as the " capital of the world".[16] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year.[17] More than 25 per cent of South African men questioned in a survey published by the Medical Research Council (MRC) in June 2009 admitted to rapes; of those, nearly half said they had raped more than one person.[18][19] Three out of four of those who had admitted  rapes indicated that they had attacked for the first time during their teens.[18] South Africa has amongst the highest incidences of child and baby rapes in the world.

Sounds like a real fine place to raise your kids up in, dunnit. Take twenty South African men at random.... and three of them are likely to be serial rapists.

ETA: weird. The word  "  "   ( r a p e ) is apparently a forbidden word on this forum. Rapist, rapes, raper, raped all OK but not "  ".

Fuck, fick, bugger, all OK... but not    r a p e .

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4660 on: August 18, 2012, 09:20:09 PM »
You cannot even parody Polly Parrot. She is her own parody.

See... she really meant 4 AMPS DC  from the 8 volts peak to peak measured across the shunt.


For her next edit, Polly Parrot will finally replace the "DC" with AC.... even though she has no understanding even of those simple distinctions, or she would never have made the howling errors in the first place.

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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4661 on: August 18, 2012, 09:25:21 PM »
even though she has no understanding even of those simple distinctions, or she would never have made the howling errors in the first place.
similar to you and your use of the words; replication, exactly, etc. etc.    ::)

interesting that you can use 'howlers' at your whim and pleasure but anyone else does, that's grounds for an immediate spanking by the koala in the tinsel hat... ::)

carry on you sad little man...

Offline picowatt

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4662 on: August 18, 2012, 10:17:45 PM »
If she is able to replicate FIG 3 with the SAME 'scope settings and a functional Q1, I suggest she check the wiring and connections for Q1.

The FIG 3 'scope capture cannot be replicated with a functioning Q1 connected as per the schematic.

Period....


Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4663 on: August 19, 2012, 01:18:14 AM »
Hey .99... why don't you ask Ainslie to explain how to test a FET. I'd love to hear her explain.

And remember... there have been at least FIVE different schematics claimed to be used for the data in the manuscripts and the scopeshots in question:

1) The single mosfet schematic with a series gate resistor and no "black" lead FG hookup shown, shown clearly in the demo video;
2) The "five mosfets in parallel" claimed by the narrator of the video simultaneously while showing the above diagram;
3) The actual wiring that you determined from looking at the video carefully, and which shows the FG Black lead hooked to the common circuit ground bus;
4) The schematic presented in the first Ainslie manuscript, which accurately shows the mosfet wiring but misrepresents the placement of the Black FG lead as being on the transistor side of the shunt... which is the correct location but which was NOT used for the paper, actually... it couldn't have been, she didn't know that was the right place for it until the analyses subsequent to the experimental trials.
5) And the schematic presented in the "paper" most recently posted on Rossi's JNP which has the same FG Black lead location but has the Q2x4 stack on the right side instead of the left side, where the RED FG lead is connected to the gate NOT of the lone mosfet Q1 as in the first paper and the demonstration, but to the gates of the Gang of Four Q2s.

Recall also that she deliberately concealed the true schematic-- or claimed to, perhaps she didn't know about the mistake until you found it -- at any rate a deliberate deception was perpetrated by her concerning the wiring of the demonstration apparatus.


So for anything coming from Ainslie, I think you need to see actual photographs, clear and focused, of both sides of the apparatus so you can know how it's wired.

Now... .how does someone who thinks 0.8 is one eighth... who thinks that the capacitances of a group of mosfets can't possibly "enable" 8 amps of "dc" peak to peak current (sic!)... who thinks that 1 Watt = 1 Joule ... who asks you and everybody else to believe that she dissipated 5.9 megaJoules in  96 minutes without getting...er... uncomfortably warm....

How exactly does this person test 5 FETs for functionality and integrity?


Does she perhaps put them into the circuits that are shown in the data sheet for the mosfet and monitor the behaviour of those circuits? I laugh out loud.
Perhaps she uses the "transistor check" Hfe function on a DMM. I laugh even louder.

Offline The Boss

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4664 on: August 19, 2012, 05:12:15 PM »
Now that's a really nice forum she has there.
 
Not too difficult to envision her sitting there on her own deserted island of shifting delusions
with no one to talk to but herself, waiting for someone ..anyone, to please post something ..anything.
 
Time for her to PM as many people as she can, to at least leave a comment.
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