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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #765 on: March 05, 2012, 05:06:58 AM »
This if for Schubert and, possibly, Flux It - if you're interested. 

Here are some of those pictures that Poynty posted in my previously 'locked thread'.  Can't remember which because there seems to have been so many of them.  In any event I had a couple of downloads on file.  Here they are.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

And Flux It.  Thanks for giving me that 'link'.   :)

Rosemary Ainslie

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« Reply #766 on: March 05, 2012, 05:56:37 AM »
And guys,

Here's another schematic that may be of assistance.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #767 on: March 05, 2012, 10:04:50 AM »
Those circuit are totally different from the one posted before, look like the second in this page are correct Mosfet positively biased can pulse your inductor in a normal way...
In the first look like the gate is controlled an inductor just like a Bedini...
But the -5 Volts generator still bother me, it look like the + side is connected to ground side of the circuit but the polarity is reversed, look like you have a -5 Volts at the ground side and a 0 Volts a the + side...
Do you try a split the positive config ?
But the split the positive is more like putting for example two + side of battery facing each other:
For example a "Bedini" radiant config will be - //////+ > -//////+ > +//////-
Positive split at the two last batteries !

Rosemary Ainslie

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« Reply #768 on: March 05, 2012, 10:18:11 AM »
Those circuit are totally different from the one posted before, look like the second in this page are correct Mosfet positively biased can pulse your inductor in a normal way...
In the first look like the gate is controlled an inductor just like a Bedini...
But the -5 Volts generator still bother me, it look like the + side is connected to ground side of the circuit but the polarity is reversed, look like you have a -5 Volts at the ground side and a 0 Volts a the + side...
Do you try a split the positive config ?
But the split the positive is more like putting for example two + side of battery facing each other:
For example a "Bedini" radiant config will be - //////+ > -//////+ > +//////-
Positive split at the two last batteries !

Hello Schubert.  I need to you check those circuits again.  You'll see that they're not standard.  Just check the MOSFET config.  I'll post the schematic again on the actual arrangement of those transistors.  That's where the magic is.  My email address is ainslie@mweb.co.za.  Send me your email and I'll forward you our papers.  Then you'll understand the whole thing better.  You're missing the significance of that Q-array - which is Q1 Drain to Q2 Drain.  Q1 Source to Q2 Gate.  Q2 Source to Q1 Gate.  Pointy was the first to get this simulated.  But we've got loads of sim examples - and they all have that negative wattage anomaly.  The circuit is per our schematic.  If you look closely you'll see that the Q2 Source goes nowhere - other than to the ground of the signal probe.

But let me see if I can find that diagram that I did on the MOSFET connections.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

I'm afraid they're both rather faint.  Hopefully you can read them.  And don't bother to read the 'blurb'.  It's just something I wrote to try and clarify the same thing - for someone else.  Sorry Schubert - but that's the best I can manage.  I've lost another one that I did which is marginally easier to see.

ADDED.  I'm taking out these two of mine because I know they're barely readable.  And it just takes up space.  Thanks again Groundloop.

Rosie
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 12:17:26 PM by Rosemary Ainslie »

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #769 on: March 05, 2012, 11:51:48 AM »
Better contrast.

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #770 on: March 05, 2012, 12:15:23 PM »
Better contrast.

Groundloop - you're an angel.  Thanks for that.  Even I can read it now.  Golly.

Come to think of it - that schema may have been yours and not Poynty's.  Sorry if I should have given you the credit.  I know you were among the first to spot the error in our earlier report on this.

Thanks Groundloop.  You're always there.  And it's always a comfort.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

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« Reply #771 on: March 05, 2012, 03:13:52 PM »
The schematic (brown background) is mine. This was not your circuit per se; it was a rendition that eliminated the FG. I was reducing your circuit down to its most basic form, and that was the last step. The FG was removed and therefore the circuit oscillates continuously rather than in burst mode. The second schematic is from your crew I believe when they simulated the circuit.

I think only one person discovered your "error" before you actually revealed it, and it was "you know who".

Regarding my test, yes coming along nicely. Batteries are still charging. They are being charged one at a time, and there are 10 total. I want 5  or 6 good batteries to start.

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« Reply #772 on: March 06, 2012, 02:11:42 AM »
The schematic (brown background) is mine. This was not your circuit per se; it was a rendition that eliminated the FG. I was reducing your circuit down to its most basic form, and that was the last step. The FG was removed and therefore the circuit oscillates continuously rather than in burst mode. The second schematic is from your crew I believe when they simulated the circuit.

I think only one person discovered your "error" before you actually revealed it, and it was "you know who".

Regarding my test, yes coming along nicely. Batteries are still charging. They are being charged one at a time, and there are 10 total. I want 5  or 6 good batteries to start.

Hello Poynty Point. 

I'm rather puzzled that you didn't or don't show Schubert - and anyone else who may be interested - more on your sims?  Golly Poynty.  Any more of this and we'll all think that you're NOT doing your best to progress this technology.  Whatever next?  Anyway.  It's probably as well that the guys do their own thing here.  They may come out with some relevant insights.  Which would be much appreciated. We're all trying to find some answers.

Now.  Poynty Point.  About your battery tests.  I think I must put this down - for the record - lest you get carried away with your 'presumption of authority'.   The 'settings' for that switch - are CRUCIAL.  Too much to the left, too much to the right - too much 'on', too much 'off' - fractionally too much resonance, too little - ALL make an ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE to the measured benefit.   Which is why the results are more dependable on a function generator to drive the 'switch'.  It holds its setting better.  And it has a wider range of options.  THEN. Short of doing a whole load of detailed spreadsheet analysis on each setting - there's no 'quick' guide to that negative wattage value.  UNLESS you use a more sophisticated oscilloscope.  I would strongly recommend that you try and get one - even if you do this on loan - as we do.  It doesn't compute amperage  - OBVIOUSLY - as it would first need to know the value of the shunt resistor.  It only reads the voltage across that resistor.  But a product of this and the battery voltage is a 'quick guide'.  And IF this results in a negative product - then you can rest easy that the setting's good.  And then you can do your own spreadsheet analysis and do the required adjustments related to the impedance at whatever frequency.  But whichever way you then cut it - you'll still have that curious anomaly of a NEGATIVE WATTAGE.    And as we all know by now.  That negative wattage has absolutely no MEANING.  It's something that has not been fully explored by our learned and revered.

And again.  THAT negative wattage number - is the ENTIRE focus of both the first and the second part of our two-part paper.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

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« Reply #773 on: March 06, 2012, 02:41:55 AM »
And guys,

Just in case it's not clear WHY this negative wattage number is significant - it's this.  We apply standard measurement protocols to the amount of energy delivered by the battery against the amount of energy returned to the battery.  The delivered energy is represented as a positive value as the amperage flow is greater than zero.  The 'returned' energy is represented as a negative value as the amperage flow is less than zero.  The two values are then summed.  IF Kirchhoff's rulings are RIGHT - then we should NEVER get a result that is anything less than 1.  In other words the amount of energy delivered will ALWAYS exceed the amount of energy returned.  And under ideal circumstances we should be able to PRECISELY relate that difference to the amount of energy that is dissipated - as heat or motion or both - over the circuit components.  What should NEVER happen is that the amount of energy returned exceeds the amount of energy delivered.

The minute this is evident - then we're into a new ballpark.  It means this.  Either our measurement protocols are essentially FLAWED.  Or it means that there's an alternate supply of energy on the circuit.  There are NO OTHER OPTIONS.  Now.  There are those of you who read here who will recall that we've done this test where we measured 'apparent' gains resulting in some value greater than Unity.  But until we configured this circuit we've NEVER seen values that actually EXCEED the amount of energy first delivered.  And that's why this new generation of our switching circuit is so very intriguing.  And why it's so deserving of 'review'.

And of interest.  I've been to some pains to explain that we've FOUND NOTHING NEW.  And indeed we haven't.  This result is 'required' by those Dark Energy enthusiasts who have measured a 'binding' force in our galaxies.  And it's required by our string theorists who have required an all pervasive universal force that exceeds our known forces.  The only reason that this has remained hidden for so long  is because no-one before looked for that evidence in an electric application.  And this was largely due to the expectations which relied on Kirchhoff's assumptions.  Fortunately I was that 'unschooled' that I actually saw some relevance in testing this.  And that's because our own little thesis entirely supports our Dark Energy theorists.  And this should sit well with the most of you.  Because it conforms to those insights by Tesla and I think we're all Tesla enthusiasts here.

I hope that makes the relevance of all this clearer.  Because - IF INDEED - there is this 'negative wattage' then it also means that we're grossly UNDERUSING the potentials in the delivery of electric energy.   And that way - we can - hopefully - do better.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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« Reply #774 on: March 06, 2012, 04:12:15 AM »
I'm fairly confident I'll be able to obtain a negative battery wattage, right "out of the box".

I got the negative wattage with the simulation, so I see no reason I won't with the actual build.

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« Reply #775 on: March 06, 2012, 07:29:25 AM »
My Dear Poynty Point.

What you need to do is make ALL your sim information available.  Else no-one will ever give any credibility to any of your findings ever again.  Surely you KNOW THIS?  If you were in the LEAST bit interested in promoting studies in over unity - then you should be falling over your feet in your anxiety to explain how this simulation is done.  Even if it's simply to explore that strange oscillation.  And?  Strangely you're not?  In fact you're ACTIVELY promoting their disengagement?  Why is that?

You've proposed multiple reasons why the oscillation is happening at all.  This includes incorrect probe positions - the fact that a battery applies a negative current flow when it discharges it energy - the fact that the battery can discharge its energy straight across the gate of a MOSFET and bypass it's own source.  Alternatively that it can run a course right through the ground terminal and into the signal probe and across an applied negative signal.  You've proposed that our measurements are erroneous as they apply to the position of the current sensing resistor - to the miscalculation of the applied impedance value - and even to the fact that those resistors have inductance associated with them. Which is correct - by the way (BTW) BUT not that it makes the slightest bit of difference to our results.  You've suggested that the battery can discharge its energy in a 'one step' 'two step' dance step - as it chooses which MOSFET gate to use.  But you stopped that argument short of explaining why then the waveform was not 'purely positive'.  You've relied on arguments related to my ignorance, duplicity, stupidity, antiquity, vacuity, lunacy and general absurdity.  You've accused our collaborators variously of being 'morons' or untrained in matters scientific - or not existing at all - as they WISELY defer from posting on these forums.  And all this while you seriously proposed that we re-write our standard model in line with that rather absurd 'paper' that you ventured where your counterarguments were confined to a poor little academic who was relegated to the sidelines and only allowed to express astonishment at your revisionary visions.   Not to mention your heavy subscription to my 'hate blog' where you state what you like freed from all editorial constraints unless they're either 'positive' or 'on track'. 

You relied on that sim evidence to disprove EVERYTHING.  The problem with all sims is that its an easy path for the most of you trained in electronics to quickly test all this - as Flux It explained.  Now.  Once that starts on forum - as I'm well aware of it happening 'off' forum - then more and more people will start duplicating that OSCILLATION that you and your 'friends' advised us had no relevance.

And you and I both know that there is no explanation within the standard model for that waveform.  But it's fully explained with a minor extension to Faraday's Lines of Force.  Which is what we propose.  For some reason ANY THEORY is preferred over this?  I wonder why that it?  Could it be that it will actually ASSIST in this DRIVE to energy efficiency?  Maybe?  GOLLY.

So.  WHY POYNTY POINT are you on the wrong side of this drive of ours?

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

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« Reply #776 on: March 06, 2012, 08:02:21 AM »
And may I add this.  A certain Dr Vest relied on an MIT replication of cold fusion to DISPROVE COLD FUSION.  He thereby managed to endorse legislation that prevented ANY PATENTS CLAIMING ANYTHING AT ALL RELATED TO COLD FUSION.  Which is why they invented various alternate terms including Low Energy Nuclear Reaction.  He managed to prevent this being developed in America.  Unfortunately he did NOT manage to prevent its development elsewhere. 

There's a moral to this Poynty Point.  I trust you see it.  DISPROOF NEVER CUTS IT.  When there's new evidence - and when the 'cat's out the bag' so to speak - then there will ALWAYS be further and further testing. Thank God.  You cannot put a LID on experimental evidence and experimental claims.  And it only needs ONE SINCERE REPLICATION - to PROVE ANYTHING AT ALL - in science.  The best you can rely on is to continue to discredit me.  And I welcome it.  The more so as your OVER reliance on this rather starts to beg the question. 

Regards,
Rosemary 
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« Reply #777 on: March 06, 2012, 02:04:53 PM »
For the following reasons, I don't see the need to post all my simulations again:

1) They've been posted in this thread to some degree, and in your "demonstration" thread also on this forum. There is also a document posted that goes through the measurement analysis. So it's all here already.

2) No one here is asking for these simulation posts, except you. And you've already seen them all.

I'm sure the 3 readers here are much more keen on seeing my actual test results, as they'll be much more convincing than the simulation.

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« Reply #778 on: March 06, 2012, 03:12:56 PM »
I would love to see test results, and the simulation was much more of a visualization tool, as I am not implying any accuracy of its results. But the simplicity of the simulator makes an excellent design tool that anyone can use to post a circuit example. Personally looking back to find circuits and test results in this topic is like watching a boxing match in slo mo ;)

Not taking any sides, I just think there should be more solid information. Will you be using a 555 in your tests?

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« Reply #779 on: March 06, 2012, 05:05:24 PM »
I would love to see test results, and the simulation was much more of a visualization tool, as I am not implying any accuracy of its results. But the simplicity of the simulator makes an excellent design tool that anyone can use to post a circuit example. Personally looking back to find circuits and test results in this topic is like watching a boxing match in slo mo ;)

Not taking any sides, I just think there should be more solid information. Will you be using a 555 in your tests?

Flux It.  The simulation is EXTRAORDINARY.  Simply because it is able to compute a negative wattage - which, as explained, is anomalous - at its least.  But what is really odd is that the sim can allow for that 'above ground' voltage.  From what I saw of Schubert's sim - it gives a result that was more or less predicted by Poynty.  However, Poynt's own sims are able to replicate that waveform.  Either the sim is assuming a discharge from the battery supply - or it's allowing 'logically' for the development of CEMF to run both halves of each oscillation waveform.  If the former - then there SHOULD be a path from the battery supply to allow for that positive half.  And we none of us can find that path.  It is most certainly NOT a conventional path through the Gate at Q2 - because if it was - then it would need to bypass the Q2 source leg.  And if it's allowing for the path from CEMF to run both halves of the oscillation then the question is 'how does this compute with the standard model?'.  Because CEMF  should only result from 'stored energy' - at best. 

Also.  If we simply parallel the transistors - in the usual way - then we don't get the oscillation at all.  My own guess is that the sim software simply applies inductive laws which kick in when each oscillation reaches its peak.  Which means that they've only used INDUCTIVE LAWS.  And that still leaves one with the need to resolve the polarity.  It's not straight forward.

In any event.  Poynty and others have got my paper.  If you want 'results' I'll be glad to forward this to you.  Just email me or PM me with your email address and I'll forward them.

Regards,
Rosemary