Do you believe a self runner might be constructed this way?

Hi JdR,

I Think you are on to something!
I can see several ways of harnessing work from it already!
maybe magnets at the place of the blocks and a ring of coils around it

I Think its great! 

Ben je al iets aan het bouwen? 

Hi Cherryman,

The motors working at the rim of the flywheel, can be seen as generators, this because they cannot overcome the centrifugal force.
So to get power back out from this type of systems, the only thing you have to do is turning around two or more generators at the rim which are connected to the fixed center gear. Just as you can see in my videos.

And no, I am not building it at the moment, but I am planning to in the near future...
And in Dutch: (Nee ik ben er nog geen een aan het bouwen, maar ben dat in de nabije toekomst wel van plan...)

Kind Regards, JdR

I did see all your video's, and i think it has some merit.
But how is it those generators deliver work?  You have the torq, but not the  rotation, or do I miss something?

C'man

I did see all your video's, and i think it has some merit.
But how is it those generators deliver work?  You have the torq, but not the  rotation, or do I miss something?

C'man

No you sure have the rotation, if you look closely at video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1VRPfK5Sw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

you see that the swinging weight is connected to the connecting rod, and not directly to the fly wheel. This is the key principle... So in my example, the swinging weight motor is forced to rotate backwards in relation to the connecting rod. So if you replace the swinging weight motor by an electrical generator such as a hub dynamo, the generator its counter EMF will act upon the connecting rod and not upon the flywheel.

Kind regards, JdR 

Hello,
This is the operating principle of the Hummingbird Generator designed by a man named Martin I think. He got the idea from a notebook of Tesla's who had studied the effects of the moon orbiting the earth and keeping the same face towards the earth. Thank you for the excellent presentation.
Garry

I watched your great presentations, and have thought much about them. There is a singular problem that I noticed though...

I see that you are modeling the 2 generators as reversed motors to test for how much power could be taken off those 2 generators, compared to the input into the central motor. From this you are seeing a 40:1 ratio of output to input...

The problem that even I overlooked in the beginning though is that the rotor and the stators of the 2 generators to NOT move in relation to each other. So, in reality, your modeling is actually showing how much power it would take to move the weighted arms from their extended positions, not showing how much power output that there would be on those 2 generators. So, your sim in actuality is merely showing at what power level you'd need to impart to the 2 generators(motors) to get the weighted arms to even move from their extended positions. I am sorry to bring this to your attention, but I felt I should say something. Had the rotors and stators of those 2 generators been moving in relation to each other, then this would certain merit overunity.

I see that you are modeling the 2 generators as reversed motors to test for how much power could be taken off those 2 generators, compared to the input into the central motor. From this you are seeing a 40:1 ratio of output to input...
--- This is observation is correct ---

... the rotor and the stators of the 2 generators to NOT move in relation to each other.
--- This is incorrect, if you look closely to my first simple centrifugal force COP 1 to 12 overunity example video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1VRPfK5Sw

You will be able to see that the swinging weight is not connected directly to the flywheel, but instead it is connected to a connecting rod which is in return connected to the flywheel. So the rotor in this simulation is mounted to the swinging weight and the stator is mounted to the connecting rod (so not to the flywheel), This is the key principle of my simulation. So the centrifugal force is rotating the swinging weight which turns the outher motor connected to the connecting rod. So it is rotating. And in my second video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpF-n3Dd8I&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

This connecting rod is replaced by a set of gears, connected to the fixed center gear. So in this example the gears at the rim keep standing nose up and the swinging weights are turning. So here you see also that both stator / rotor combinations are turning.

For seeing things closer, please download the simulation files so that you can zoom in while everything is rotating.

Thanks for your reply and with Kind Regards, JdR

Very nice work on the sim.  Looks like it would be good to start building.  It somewhat reminds me of this device which according to the inventor will be in production very soon: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Alpha_Omega_Galaxy_Freefall_Generator_(AOGFG)

lol... thats one thing ive noticed in the OU community.. every thing is "very soon" and "just around the corner" ... that 'corner' must be 100,000 miles wide lol...

@author of this thread.......the sim looks very impressive, I might give it a go my self (actual build that is)... like your explanation of it all, very clear and articulated.