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Author Topic: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery  (Read 109108 times)

Goat

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2008, 03:38:13 AM »
@0ne & All

I tried this last night before going to bed using a pair of magnets out of old hard drives I had handy, it was closest thing to a horse shoe magnet I had at hand, and using a PCI slot cover from the back of an old PC for the metal piece.  At first I wasn't getting any reading other than a few mV.  Then I touched it to try and position it better and it jumped to 0.34 V !!!  I figured it was the moisture in my fingers so I got a bit of filtered tap water and moistened the computer paper between the magnets and the metal slot cover and the voltage started going up from 0.01 all the way up to over 0.55 V !!!

At that point I had to go to bed to get up early so I hooked it up to a 470 micro Farad 25 V capacitor, when I got up this morning it was still  0.55 V :)

So it looks as though strong magnets work also :) 

The funny thing is that tonight when I got home I tried putting 3 sets of these magnets side by side but it did nothing, no voltage, then I took them off except for the one and moistened the paper and it jumped up to over 0.60 V this time, not sure if it's because the magnet was changed position slightly, residual magnetism or galvanic reaction. Here's the kicker though, I left it as it was and as the paper dried off it dipped down to 0.42 V at it's lowest then started climbing back up, it's been sitting between 0.58 to 0.62 V every time I attach the DVM to check it !!!

There's definitely something going on and the paper is a lot drier now, not counting relative humidity of course which I have no clue what it is in my house right now but the weather web site closest to my area is now saying 45.0 %, it's now sitting at 0.60 V.

Anyways, thought I'd let you know what my results are.

PS:  I would really love to show you a picture of it but I can't get it under 65 Kb and I don't have any program other than MS Paint to edit it :(

Regards,
Paul

sdanielmsev

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2008, 06:26:46 AM »
From House Painter:
    UMMMMM, I am not getting the idea of a basic electronics experiments from the 50' is relevant to anything. Of course a CRT emits a static charge, and is easily manipulated by a magnet. As do most display units, but as the relevant question is; are you creating energy or, as you show you are using existing wasteful sources?

sdanielmsev

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #77 on: May 28, 2008, 06:47:26 AM »
    To any one:
 From House Painter;
    There is nothing wrong with"rediscovering" old ideas, just remember , they were already tried.

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2008, 06:28:17 PM »
@One,
I tried this per your web page with non-neo strong u-magnet and keeper with dry paper spacer. There was no voltage across magnet battery. I do get readings on my voltmeter just from voltage being picked up out of the air with the voltmeter open leads acting as antennas. But there is no additional voltage when leads are connected to the magnet battery. Also no current. Meter reads down to 0.01 ma and 0.1 mv. Voltage was measured between keeper and center of u-magnet (paint removed).

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2008, 06:29:12 PM »
@0ne & All

PS:  I would really love to show you a picture of it but I can't get it under 65 Kb and I don't have any program other than MS Paint to edit it :(

Regards,
Paul

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Onevoice

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2008, 07:10:33 PM »
Guys n Gals,

I don't mean to but in but I've been reading this and had to leave a comment. Unless you are using distilled water, your experiments may be invalid. Municipal fresh water supplies usually contain at least some dissolved calcium carbonates. Some places, like here on the east coast USA, the water can be as hard as a rock. Aquarium nuts like me know this and account for it as some species love it and others hate it. Point is in this posting, that it is a salt. Also, I'll bet most of you, like me, have neos that are in nickel jackets. I'm not invalidating any of the theories or ideas being presented here, but be carefull of your experimental setups. You can buy magnets that are jacketed in black rubber or you can paint your magnets with something less chemically reactive - like acrylic paint. In my area, you can buy distilled water at the grocery store. Make sure that you aren't misunderstanding what is really happening.

Groundloop

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2008, 09:24:21 PM »
@Goat,

The greatest program for image processing is IrfanView. It is great, and it is free.

http://www.irfanview.com/

Groundloop.

Goat

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2008, 11:05:20 PM »
@ Groundloop

Thanks for the info, I love it, you made my day :)   

@ Onevoice

I think that as you mentioned the voltage produced is through galvanic reaction but I haven't tried it with distilled water yet.  First thing is that this setup is very capricious and the magnets needed to be adjusted just right to get the voltage up to this value, when the paper dried the voltage would go down then back up and when the paper dried out completely it would finally drop down to just a few mV.

With repeated moistening of the paper the voltage values fluctuated and would often be less than the value shown in the picture because I accidentally moved the setup.  Another thing is that I never measured the amperage to see if there is any decent amount, if  I use it to charge the cap mentioned earlier it seems to hold it's voltage longer but eventually drops as the paper dries and the cap leaks it's voltage.

Regards,
Paul



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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #83 on: May 29, 2008, 01:54:10 AM »
I checked  Ebay  for  magnets  that might  be good for testing this .............they didn't have anything even close .



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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #84 on: May 29, 2008, 02:10:15 AM »
Please do get U magnets. The effect i am describing is based around the closed loop of the U magnet and keeper. You always get more volts. Amps are just the movement, all you have to do to get the circulating magnets out, is give them something to be attracted to, like a coil, then you will have amps.

Listen, the magnetic force contains the electrons. The paper/plastic slows them down and builds them up, dry or wet the magnetic force still goes through no matter what, and builds up no matter what. You can say its a chemical reation all you want, but the truth is magnetism has trouble passing through less dense objects, so they are slowed down, and they build up. You can prove this with a simple magnet and iron fillings.

DrStiffler

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #85 on: May 29, 2008, 02:48:10 AM »
@All
You all may like to see some old work on the TMB or Thermal Magnetic Battery www.stifflerscientific.com/tmp.asp

Thanks

Goat

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2008, 04:37:31 AM »
@ DrStiffler

Thanks for that information, excellent eye opener, didn't realize such a thing was possible or even existed! 

@ One

Didn't mean any disrespect by mentioning galvanic reaction, I was just posting my observations on the setup I made and how it acted.

DrStiffler's data on the TMB at http://www.stifflerscientific.com/tmb.asp shows that what you say is true and can be done :)

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2008, 08:34:34 PM »
I checked  Ebay  for  magnets  that might  be good for testing this .............they didn't have anything even close .
gary
How about this:
http://search.ebay.co.uk/neodymium_W0QQcatrefZC3QQfromZR2
(You will need to go to your national Ebay)
Paul.

resonanceman

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2008, 09:06:27 PM »
How about this:
http://search.ebay.co.uk/neodymium_W0QQcatrefZC3QQfromZR2
(You will need to go to your national Ebay)
Paul.

398 auctions   in that link ........................NO  U shaped magnets

gary

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Re: Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery
« Reply #89 on: May 30, 2008, 12:20:03 AM »
Hi, just want to show you my setup.

My highest voltage i get from a simple aluminum foil instead of the "keeper". And i use simple quader magnets. 500 - 600 mV from one magnet. The aluminium foil tripled the voltage instead of the magnetic keeper which gives me ~200mV. Just put the neo-mags on the dielectric (wet kitchen paper).


I put 3 in series and got 1,4 V. The cylindrical magnets on the quader magnets are simple to hold the wires for the series and gives no gain.